Re: [zfs-discuss] LAST CALL: zfs-discuss is moving Sunday, March 24, 2013

2013-03-24 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
However, the zfs-discuss list seems to be archived at gmane. On 2013-03-22 22:57, Cindy Swearingen wrote: I hope to see everyone on the other side... *** The ZFS discussion list is moving to java.net. This opensolaris/zfs discussion will not be available

[zfs-discuss] Dirves going offline in Zpool

2013-03-23 Thread Ram Chander
Hi, I have Dell md1200 connected to two heads ( Dell R710 ). The heads have Perc H800 card and drives are configured in Raid0 ( Virtual Disk) in the RAID controller. One of the drives had crashed and is replaced by a spare. Resilvering was triggered but fails to complete due to drives going

[zfs-discuss] How to enforce probing of all disks?

2013-03-22 Thread Jim Klimov
Hello all, I have a kind of lame question here: how can I force the system (OI) to probe all the HDD controllers and disks that it can find, and be certain that it has searched everywhere for disks? My remotely supported home-NAS PC was unavailable for a while, and a friend rebooted it for

[zfs-discuss] LAST CALL: zfs-discuss is moving Sunday, March 24, 2013

2013-03-22 Thread Cindy Swearingen
I hope to see everyone on the other side... *** The ZFS discussion list is moving to java.net. This opensolaris/zfs discussion will not be available after March 24. There is no way to migrate the existing list to the new list. The solaris-zfs project is

Re: [zfs-discuss] This mailing list EOL???

2013-03-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
mail-archive.com is an independent third party. This is one of their FAQ's http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#duration The Mail Archive has been running since 1998. Archiving services are planned to continue indefinitely. We do not plan on ever needing to remove archived material. Do not,

[zfs-discuss] SSD for L2arc

2013-03-21 Thread Ram Chander
Hi, Can I know how to configure a SSD to be used for L2arc ? Basically I want to improve read performance. To increase write performance, will SSD for Zil help ? As I read on forums, Zil is only used for mysql/transaction based writes. I have regular writes only. Thanks. Regards, Ram

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD for L2arc

2013-03-21 Thread Jim Mauro
Can I know how to configure a SSD to be used for L2arc ? Basically I want to improve read performance. Read the documentation, specifically the section titled; Creating a ZFS Storage PoolWith Cache Devices To increase write performance, will SSD for Zil help ? As I read on forums, Zil

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD for L2arc

2013-03-21 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-03-21 16:24, Ram Chander wrote: Hi, Can I know how to configure a SSD to be used for L2arc ? Basically I want to improve read performance. The man zpool page is quite informative on theory and concepts ;) If your pool already exists, you can prepare the SSD (partition/slice it) and:

[zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Wood
I have two identical Supermicro boxes with 32GB ram. Hardware details at the end of the message. They were running OI 151.a.5 for months. The zpool configuration was one storage zpool with 3 vdevs of 8 disks in RAIDZ2. The OI installation is absolutely clean. Just next-next-next until done. All

Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Michael Schuster
Peter, sorry if this is so obvious that you didn't mention it: Have you checked /var/adm/messages and other diagnostic tool output? regards Michael On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Peter Wood peterwood...@gmail.com wrote: I have two identical Supermicro boxes with 32GB ram. Hardware details

Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Will Murnane
Does the Supermicro IPMI show anything when it crashes? Does anything show up in event logs in the BIOS, or in system logs under OI? On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Peter Wood peterwood...@gmail.com wrote: I have two identical Supermicro boxes with 32GB ram. Hardware details at the end of

Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Wood
I'm sorry. I should have mentioned it that I can't find any errors in the logs. The last entry in /var/adm/messages is that I removed the keyboard after the last reboot and then it shows the new boot up messages when I boot up the system after the crash. The BIOS log is empty. I'm not sure how to

Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Michael Schuster
How about crash dumps? michael On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Peter Wood peterwood...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry. I should have mentioned it that I can't find any errors in the logs. The last entry in /var/adm/messages is that I removed the keyboard after the last reboot and then it shows

Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Wood
I'm going to need some help with the crash dumps. I'm not very familiar with Solaris. Do I have to enable something to get the crash dumps? Where should I look for them? Thanks for the help. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Michael Schuster michaelspriv...@gmail.com wrote: How about crash

Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-03-20 17:15, Peter Wood wrote: I'm going to need some help with the crash dumps. I'm not very familiar with Solaris. Do I have to enable something to get the crash dumps? Where should I look for them? Typically the kernel crash dumps are created as a result of kernel panic; also they

Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Wood
Hi Jim, Thanks for the pointers. I'll definitely look into this. -- Peter Blajev IT Manager, TAAZ Inc. Office: 858-597-0512 x125 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: On 2013-03-20 17:15, Peter Wood wrote: I'm going to need some help with the crash dumps.

Re: [zfs-discuss] [BULK] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Wood
No problem Trey. Anything will help. Yes, I did a clean install overwriting the old OS. Just to make sure, you actually did an overwrite reinstall with OI151a7 rather than upgrading the existing OS images? If you did a pkg image-update, you should be able to boot back into the oi151a5

Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Jens Elkner
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 08:50:40AM -0700, Peter Wood wrote: I'm sorry. I should have mentioned it that I can't find any errors in the logs. The last entry in /var/adm/messages is that I removed the keyboard after the last reboot and then it shows the new boot up messages when I boot

Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Wood
Great write up Jens. The chance of two MB to be broken is probably low but overheating is a very good point. It was on my to-do list to setup IPMI and seems that now is the best time to do it. Thanks On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Jens Elkner jel+...@cs.uni-magdeburg.dewrote: On Wed, Mar

[zfs-discuss] This mailing list EOL???

2013-03-20 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
I can't seem to find any factual indication that opensolaris.org mailing lists are going away, and I can't even find the reference to whoever said it was EOL in a few weeks ... a few weeks ago. So ... are these mailing lists going bye-bye? ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] This mailing list EOL???

2013-03-20 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Ned, This list is migrating to java.net and will not be available in its current form after March 24, 2013. The archive of this list is available here: http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org/ I will provide an invitation to the new list shortly. Thanks for your patience.

Re: [zfs-discuss] This mailing list EOL???

2013-03-20 Thread Deirdre Straughan
Will the archives of all the lists be preserved? I don't think we've seen a clear answer on that (it's possible you haven't, either!). On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Cindy Swearingen cindy.swearin...@oracle.com wrote: Hi Ned, This list is migrating to java.net and will not be available in

Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Wood
I can reproduce the problem. I can crash the system. Here are the steps I did (some steps may not be needed but I haven't tested it): - Clean install of OI 151.a.7 on Supermicro hardware described above (32GB RAM though, not the 128GB) - Create 1 zpool, 6 raidz vdevs with 5 drives each - NFS

[zfs-discuss] Please join us on the new zfs discuss list on java.net

2013-03-20 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Everyone, The ZFS discussion list is moving to java.net. This opensolaris/zfs discussion will not be available after March 24. There is no way to migrate the existing list to the new list. The solaris-zfs project is here: http://java.net/projects/solaris-zfs See the steps below to join

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-19 Thread Ian Collins
Andrew Werchowiecki wrote: Thanks for the info about slices, I may give that a go later on. I’m not keen on that because I have clear evidence (as in zpools set up this way, right now, working, without issue) that GPT partitions of the style shown above work and I want to see why it doesn’t

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-19 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Andrew, Your original syntax was incorrect. A p* device is a larger container for the d* device or s* devices. In the case of a cache device, you need to specify a d* or s* device. That you can add p* devices to a pool is a bug. Adding different slices from c25t10d1 as both log and cache

Re: [zfs-discuss] What would be the best tutorial cum reference doc for ZFS

2013-03-19 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Hans, Start with the ZFS Admin Guide, here: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E26502_01/html/E29007/index.html Or, start with your specific questions. Thanks, Cindy On 03/19/13 03:30, Hans J. Albertsson wrote: as used on Illumos? I've seen a few tutorials written by people who obviously are

Re: [zfs-discuss] What would be the best tutorial cum reference doc for ZFS

2013-03-19 Thread Deirdre Straughan
There are links to videos and other materials here: http://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/ZFS Not as organized as I'd like... On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Hans J. Albertsson hans.j.alberts...@branneriet.se wrote: as used on Illumos? I've seen a few tutorials written by people who

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-19 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Andrew Werchowiecki wrote: Total disk size is 9345 cylinders Cylinder size is 12544 (512 byte) blocks Cylinders Partition StatusType Start End Length% = ==

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-19 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-03-19 20:38, Cindy Swearingen wrote: Hi Andrew, Your original syntax was incorrect. A p* device is a larger container for the d* device or s* devices. In the case of a cache device, you need to specify a d* or s* device. That you can add p* devices to a pool is a bug. I disagree; at

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-19 Thread Andrew Gabriel
On 03/19/13 20:27, Jim Klimov wrote: I disagree; at least, I've always thought differently: the d device is the whole disk denomination, with a unique number for a particular controller link (c+t). The disk has some partitioning table, MBR or GPT/EFI. In these tables, partition p0 stands for

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-19 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-03-19 22:07, Andrew Gabriel wrote: The GPT partitioning spec requires the disk to be FDISK partitioned with just one single FDISK partition of type EFI, so that tools which predate GPT partitioning will still see such a GPT disk as fully assigned to FDISK partitions, and therefore less

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss Digest, Vol 89, Issue 12

2013-03-18 Thread Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral
You could always use 40-gigabit between the two storage systems which would speed things dramatically, or back to back 56-gigabit IB. From: zfs-discuss-requ...@opensolaris.org Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:01 PM To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject:

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-18 Thread Andrew Werchowiecki
I did something like the following: format -e /dev/rdsk/c5t0d0p0 fdisk 1 (create) F (EFI) 6 (exit) partition label 1 y 0 usr wm 64 4194367e 1 usr wm 4194368 117214990 label 1 y Total disk size is 9345 cylinders Cylinder size is 12544 (512 byte) blocks

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-17 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Andrew Werchowiecki andrew.werchowie...@xpanse.com.au wrote: I understand that p0 refers to the whole disk... in the logs I pasted in I'm not attempting to mount p0. I'm trying to work out why I'm getting an error attempting to mount p2, after p1 has

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] Re: Petabyte pool?

2013-03-17 Thread Richard Yao
On 03/16/2013 12:57 AM, Richard Elling wrote: On Mar 15, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Marion Hakanson hakan...@ohsu.edu wrote: So, has anyone done this? Or come close to it? Thoughts, even if you haven't done it yourself? Don't forget about backups :-) -- richard Transferring 1 PB over a 10

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] Re: Petabyte pool?

2013-03-17 Thread Trey Palmer
I know it's heresy these days, but given the I/O throughput you're looking for and the amount you're going to spend on disks, a T5-2 could make sense when they're released (I think) later this month. Crucial sells RAM they guarantee for use in SPARC T-series, and since you're at an edu the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-16 Thread Marion Hakanson
hakan...@ohsu.edu said: I get a little nervous at the thought of hooking all that up to a single server, and am a little vague on how much RAM would be advisable, other than as much as will fit (:-).  Then again, I've been waiting for something like pNFS/NFSv4.1 to be usable for gluing

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral wrote: Well, off the top of my head: 2 x Storage Heads, 4 x 10G, 256G RAM, 2 x Intel E5 CPU's 8 x 60-Bay JBOD's with 60 x 4TB SAS drives RAIDZ2 stripe over the 8 x JBOD's That should fit within 1 rack comfortably and provide 1 PB

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-16 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-03-16 15:20, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 16 Mar 2013, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral wrote: Well, off the top of my head: 2 x Storage Heads, 4 x 10G, 256G RAM, 2 x Intel E5 CPU's 8 x 60-Bay JBOD's with 60 x 4TB SAS drives RAIDZ2 stripe over the 8 x JBOD's That should fit

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-16 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-03-16 15:20, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 16 Mar 2013, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral wrote: Well, off the top of my head: 2 x Storage Heads, 4 x 10G, 256G RAM, 2 x Intel E5 CPU's 8 x 60-Bay JBOD's with 60 x 4TB SAS drives RAIDZ2 stripe over the 8 x JBOD's That should fit

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: On 2013-03-16 15:20, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 16 Mar 2013, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral wrote: Well, off the top of my head: 2 x Storage Heads, 4 x 10G, 256G RAM, 2 x Intel E5 CPU's 8 x 60-Bay JBOD's with 60

Re: [zfs-discuss] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-16 Thread Schweiss, Chip
I just recently built an OpenIndiana 151a7 system that is currently 1/2 PB that will be expanded to 1 PB as we collect imaging data for the Human Connectome Project at Washington University in St. Louis. It is very much like your use case as this is an offsite backup system that will write once

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-16 Thread Andrew Werchowiecki
It's a home set up, the performance penalty from splitting the cache devices is non-existant, and that work around sounds like some pretty crazy amount of overhead where I could instead just have a mirrored slog. I'm less concerned about wasted space, more concerned about amount of SAS ports I

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-16 Thread Richard Elling
On Mar 16, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Andrew Werchowiecki andrew.werchowie...@xpanse.com.au wrote: It's a home set up, the performance penalty from splitting the cache devices is non-existant, and that work around sounds like some pretty crazy amount of overhead where I could instead just have a

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-15 Thread Ian Collins
Andrew Werchowiecki wrote: Hi all, I'm having some trouble with adding cache drives to a zpool, anyone got any ideas? muslimwookie@Pyzee:~$ sudo zpool add aggr0 cache c25t10d1p2 Password: cannot open '/dev/dsk/c25t10d1p2': I/O error muslimwookie@Pyzee:~$ I have two SSDs in the system,

Re: [zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-15 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Werchowiecki muslimwookie@Pyzee:~$ sudo zpool add aggr0 cache c25t10d1p2 Password: cannot open '/dev/dsk/c25t10d1p2': I/O error muslimwookie@Pyzee:~$ I have two SSDs in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun X4200 Question...

2013-03-15 Thread Tiernan OToole
Thanks for the info. I am planning g the install this weekend, between formula one and other hardware upgrades... fingers crossed it works! On 14 Mar 2013 09:19, Heiko L. h.lehm...@hs-lausitz.de wrote: support for VT, but nothing for AMD... The Opterons dont have VT, so i wont be using XEN,

[zfs-discuss] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-15 Thread Marion Hakanson
Greetings, Has anyone out there built a 1-petabyte pool? I've been asked to look into this, and was told low performance is fine, workload is likely to be write-once, read-occasionally, archive storage of gene sequencing data. Probably a single 10Gbit NIC for connectivity is sufficient. We've

Re: [zfs-discuss] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-15 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 06:09:34PM -0700, Marion Hakanson wrote: Greetings, Has anyone out there built a 1-petabyte pool? I've been asked to look into this, and was told low performance is fine, workload is likely to be write-once, read-occasionally, archive storage of gene sequencing

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-15 Thread Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral
Well, off the top of my head: 2 x Storage Heads, 4 x 10G, 256G RAM, 2 x Intel E5 CPU's 8 x 60-Bay JBOD's with 60 x 4TB SAS drives RAIDZ2 stripe over the 8 x JBOD's That should fit within 1 rack comfortably and provide 1 PB storage.. Regards, Kristoffer Sheather Cloud Central Scale Your Data

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-15 Thread Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral
Actually, you could use 3TB drives and with a 6/8 RAIDZ2 stripe achieve 1080 TB usable. You'll also need 8-16 x SAS ports available on each storage head to provide redundant multi-pathed SAS connectivity to the JBOD's, recommend LSI 9207-8E's for those and Intel X520-DA2's for the 10G NIC's.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-15 Thread Jan Owoc
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Marion Hakanson hakan...@ohsu.edu wrote: Has anyone out there built a 1-petabyte pool? I'm not advising against your building/configuring a system yourself, but I suggest taking look at the Petarack: http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/petarack.htm It shows it's

Re: [zfs-discuss] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-15 Thread Marion Hakanson
rvandol...@esri.com said: We've come close: admin@mes-str-imgnx-p1:~$ zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREECAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT datapool 978T 298T 680T30% 1.00x ONLINE - syspool278G 104G 174G37% 1.00x ONLINE - Using a Dell R720 head unit, plus a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-15 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 06:31:11PM -0700, Marion Hakanson wrote: rvandol...@esri.com said: We've come close: admin@mes-str-imgnx-p1:~$ zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREECAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT datapool 978T 298T 680T30% 1.00x ONLINE - syspool278G 104G

Re: [zfs-discuss] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-15 Thread Marion Hakanson
Ray said: Using a Dell R720 head unit, plus a bunch of Dell MD1200 JBODs dual pathed to a couple of LSI SAS switches. Marion said: How many HBA's in the R720? Ray said: We have qty 2 LSI SAS 9201-16e HBA's (Dell resold[1]). Sounds similar in approach to the Aberdeen product another sender

Re: [zfs-discuss] Petabyte pool?

2013-03-15 Thread Richard Elling
On Mar 15, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Marion Hakanson hakan...@ohsu.edu wrote: Greetings, Has anyone out there built a 1-petabyte pool? Yes, I've done quite a few. I've been asked to look into this, and was told low performance is fine, workload is likely to be write-once, read-occasionally,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun X4200 Question...

2013-03-14 Thread Heiko L.
support for VT, but nothing for AMD... The Opterons dont have VT, so i wont be using XEN, but the Zones may be useful... We use XEN/PV on X4200 for many years without problems. dom0: X4200+openindiana+xvm guests(PV): openindiana,linux/fedora,linux/debian

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun X4200 Question...

2013-03-14 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-03-11 21:50, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Tiernan OToole wrote: I know this might be the wrong place to ask, but hopefully someone can point me in the right direction... I got my hands on a Sun x4200. Its the original one, not the M2, and has 2 single core Opterons, 4Gb

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun X4200 Question...

2013-03-14 Thread Gary Driggs
On Mar 14, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: However, recently the VM virtual hardware clocks became way slow. Does NTP help correct the guest's clock? ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun X4200 Question...

2013-03-14 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-03-15 01:58, Gary Driggs wrote: On Mar 14, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: However, recently the VM virtual hardware clocks became way slow. Does NTP help correct the guest's clock? Unfortunately no, neither guest NTP, ntpdate or rdate in crontabs, nor

[zfs-discuss] partioned cache devices

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Werchowiecki
Hi all, I'm having some trouble with adding cache drives to a zpool, anyone got any ideas? muslimwookie@Pyzee:~$ sudo zpool add aggr0 cache c25t10d1p2 Password: cannot open '/dev/dsk/c25t10d1p2': I/O error muslimwookie@Pyzee:~$ I have two SSDs in the system, I've created an 8gb partition on

[zfs-discuss] Sun X4200 Question...

2013-03-11 Thread Tiernan OToole
I know this might be the wrong place to ask, but hopefully someone can point me in the right direction... I got my hands on a Sun x4200. Its the original one, not the M2, and has 2 single core Opterons, 4Gb RAM and 4 73Gb SAS Disks... But, I dont know what to install on it... I was thinking of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun X4200 Question...

2013-03-11 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Tiernan OToole wrote: I know this might be the wrong place to ask, but hopefully someone can point me in the right direction... I got my hands on a Sun x4200. Its the original one, not the M2, and has 2 single core Opterons, 4Gb RAM and 4 73Gb SAS Disks... But, I dont

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sun X4200 Question...

2013-03-11 Thread Tiernan OToole
to tell you the truth, i dont really need the virtualization stuff... Zones sounds interesting, since it seems to be ligher weight than Xen or anything like that... On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Tiernan OToole wrote:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Huge Numbers of Illegal Requests

2013-03-06 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 5 Mar 2013, Ed Shipe wrote: On 2 different OpenIndiana 151a7 systems, Im showing a huge number of Illegal Requests.  There are no other apparent issues, performance is fine, etc,etc.Everything works great - what are these illegal requests?  My Google-Foo is failing me... My system

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-03-05 Thread Robert Milkowski
We do the same for all of our legacy operating system backups. Take a snapshot then do an rsync and an excellent way of maintaining incremental backups for those. Magic rsync options used: -a --inplace --no-whole-file --delete-excluded This causes rsync to overwrite the file

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-03-05 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013, Matthew Ahrens wrote: Magic rsync options used: -a --inplace --no-whole-file --delete-excluded This causes rsync to overwrite the file blocks in place rather than writing to a new temporary file first. As a result, zfs COW produces primitive deduplication of at least

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-03-05 Thread David Magda
On Tue, March 5, 2013 10:02, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Rsync does need to read files on the destination filesystem to see if they have changed. If the system has sufficient RAM (and/or L2ARC) then files may still be cached from the previous day's run. In most cases only a small subset of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-03-05 Thread Russ Poyner
On 3/5/2013 9:40 AM, David Magda wrote: On Tue, March 5, 2013 10:02, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Rsync does need to read files on the destination filesystem to see if they have changed. If the system has sufficient RAM (and/or L2ARC) then files may still be cached from the previous day's run. In

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-03-05 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 5 Mar 2013, David Magda wrote: It's also possible to reduce the amount that rsync has to walk the entire file tree. Most folks simply do a rsync --options /my/source/ /the/dest/, but if you use zfs diff, and parse/feed the output of that to rsync, then the amount of thrashing can

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-03-05 Thread Russ Poyner
On 3/5/2013 10:27 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2013, David Magda wrote: It's also possible to reduce the amount that rsync has to walk the entire file tree. Most folks simply do a rsync --options /my/source/ /the/dest/, but if you use zfs diff, and parse/feed the output of that to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-03-05 Thread David Magda
On Tue, March 5, 2013 11:17, Russ Poyner wrote: Your idea to use zfs diff to limit the need to stat the entire filesystem tree intrigues me. My current rsync backups are normally limited by this very factor. It takes longer to walk the filesystem tree than it does to transfer the new data.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-03-04 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Wed, 27 Feb 2013, Ian Collins wrote: I am finding that rsync with the right options (to directly block-overwrite) plus zfs snapshots is providing me with pretty amazing deduplication for backups without

[zfs-discuss] Huge Numbers of Illegal Requests

2013-03-04 Thread Ed Shipe
On 2 different OpenIndiana 151a7 systems, Im showing a huge number of Illegal Requests. There are no other apparent issues, performance is fine, etc,etc. Everything works great - what are these illegal requests? My Google-Foo is failing me... Thanks, -ed root@NAPP1:~# iostat -Ensr c6t0d0

Re: [zfs-discuss] SVM ZFS

2013-02-27 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 02/26/13 20:30, Morris Hooten wrote: Besides copying data from /dev/md/dsk/x volume manager filesystems to new zfs filesystems does anyone know of any zfs conversion tools to make the conversion/migration from svm to zfs easier? With Solaris 11 you can use shadow migration, it is really a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-27 Thread Ahmed Kamal
How is the quality of the ZFS Linux port today? Is it comparable to Illumos or at least FreeBSD ? Can I trust production data to it ? On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Gary Driggs wrote: On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:44 AM,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-27 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 02/27/2013 12:32 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: How is the quality of the ZFS Linux port today? Is it comparable to Illumos or at least FreeBSD ? Can I trust production data to it ? Can't speak from personal experience, but a colleague of mine has been PPA builds on Ubuntu and has had, well, less

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-27 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
I've been using it since rc13. It's been stable for me as long as you don't get into things like zvols and such... -Original Message- From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Sašo Kiselkov Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-27 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013, Ian Collins wrote: Magic rsync options used: -a --inplace --no-whole-file --delete-excluded This causes rsync to overwrite the file blocks in place rather than writing to a new temporary file first. As a result, zfs COW produces primitive deduplication of at least the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-27 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Dan Swartzendruber dswa...@druber.comwrote: I've been using it since rc13. It's been stable for me as long as you don't get into things like zvols and such... Then it definitely isn't at the level of FreeBSD, and personally I would not consider that

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-27 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
On 2/27/2013 2:05 PM, Tim Cook wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Dan Swartzendruber dswa...@druber.com mailto:dswa...@druber.com wrote: I've been using it since rc13. It's been stable for me as long as you don't get into things like zvols and such... Then it

Re: [zfs-discuss] SVM ZFS

2013-02-27 Thread Alfredo De Luca
Hi Darren. you're right! With solaris 11 and shadow migration feature it's fantastic. Not sure which Solaria vers we are talking about here. Alfredo On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Darren J Moffat darr...@opensolaris.orgwrote: On 02/26/13 20:30, Morris Hooten wrote: Besides copying

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Tiernan OToole
Thanks all! I will check out FreeNAS and see what it can do... I will also check my RAID Card and see if it can work with JBOD... fingers crossed... The machine has a couple internal SATA ports (think there are 2, could be 4) so i was thinking of using those for boot disks and SSDs later... As a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 02/26/2013 09:33 AM, Tiernan OToole wrote: As a follow up question: Data Deduplication: The machine, to start, will have about 5Gb RAM. I read somewhere that 20TB storage would require about 8GB RAM, depending on block size... The typical wisdom is that 1TB of dedup'ed data = 1GB of RAM.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Tiernan OToole lsmart...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks all! I will check out FreeNAS and see what it can do... I will also check my RAID Card and see if it can work with JBOD... fingers crossed... The machine has a couple internal SATA ports (think there are 2, could

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Tiernan OToole
Thanks again lads. I will take all that info into advice, and will join that new group also! Thanks again! --Tiernan On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Tiernan OToole lsmart...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks all! I will check out

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Milkowski
Solaris 11.1 (free for non-prod use). From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tiernan OToole Sent: 25 February 2013 14:58 To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice Good morning all. My home

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sata mirror slower than single disk

2013-02-26 Thread hagai
for what is worth.. I had the same problem and found the answer here - http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=27207 ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Gary Driggs
On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:44 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: I'd also recommend that you go and subscribe to z...@lists.illumos.org, since this list is going to get shut down by Oracle next month. Whose description still reads, everything ZFS running on illumos-based distributions. -Gary

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 02/26/2013 03:51 PM, Gary Driggs wrote: On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:44 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: I'd also recommend that you go and subscribe to z...@lists.illumos.org, since this list is going to get shut down by Oracle next month. Whose description still reads, everything ZFS running on

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 06:51:08AM -0800, Gary Driggs wrote: On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:44 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: I'd also recommend that you go and subscribe to z...@lists.illumos.org, since I can't seem to find this list. Do you have an URL for that? Mailman, hopefully? this list is going

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 02/26/2013 05:57 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 06:51:08AM -0800, Gary Driggs wrote: On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:44 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: I'd also recommend that you go and subscribe to z...@lists.illumos.org, since I can't seem to find this list. Do you have an URL for

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 06:01:39PM +0100, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 02/26/2013 05:57 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 06:51:08AM -0800, Gary Driggs wrote: On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:44 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: I'd also recommend that you go and subscribe to z...@lists.illumos.org,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sata mirror slower than single disk

2013-02-26 Thread Paul Kraus
Be careful when testing ZFS with ozone, I ran a bunch of stats many years ago that produced results that did not pass a basic sanity check. There was *something* about the ozone test data that ZFS either did not like or liked very much, depending on the specific test. I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Richard Elling
On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Tiernan OToole lsmart...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all! I will check out FreeNAS and see what it can do... I will also check my RAID Card and see if it can work with JBOD... fingers crossed... The machine has a couple internal SATA ports (think there are 2, could

[zfs-discuss] SVM ZFS

2013-02-26 Thread Morris Hooten
Besides copying data from /dev/md/dsk/x volume manager filesystems to new zfs filesystems does anyone know of any zfs conversion tools to make the conversion/migration from svm to zfs easier? Thanks Morris Hooten Unix SME Integrated Technology Delivery mhoo...@us.ibm.com Office:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Ian Collins
Robert Milkowski wrote: Solaris 11.1 (free for non-prod use). But a ticking bomb if you use a cache device. -- Ian. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Milkowski
Robert Milkowski wrote: Solaris 11.1 (free for non-prod use). But a ticking bomb if you use a cache device. It's been fixed in SRU (although this is only for customers with a support contract - still, will be in 11.2 as well). Then, I'm sure there are other bugs which are fixed in

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Distro Advice

2013-02-26 Thread Ian Collins
Robert Milkowski wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: Solaris 11.1 (free for non-prod use). But a ticking bomb if you use a cache device. It's been fixed in SRU (although this is only for customers with a support contract - still, will be in 11.2 as well). Then, I'm sure there are other bugs

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