Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-12 Thread ilovezfs
Possibly, but the discussion of specific features has barely been broached. On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:42:40 AM UTC-7, David Cantrell wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 05:01:58PM -0700, Jorgen Lundman wrote: > > > Once the installer is pushed out for the current "stable" version, the > next

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-12 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 05:01:58PM -0700, Jorgen Lundman wrote: > Once the installer is pushed out for the current "stable" version, the next > focus is on OSX integration Will this include GUI management of pools/volumes/etc? -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice Safety tip:

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-10 Thread Jorgen Lundman
We have no at all looked at performance, since focus was to get it working, then to get it stable. On the hangs, we hope to have already fixed them. I just tagged ZFS so the version should say ZFS: Loaded module v0.6.2-rc1, ZFS pool version 5000, ZFS filesystem version 5 As long as you don't c

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-10 Thread ylluminate
Hey Jorgen, this compilation was a pull that is still considered current (alpha-276-ga87b684). What can I do to better track these issues down presently for you? I'm about to take a jump from ZFS due to these issues, so I'd be happy to help if we can get to the bottom of them before I give up

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-10 Thread Jorgen Lundman
Once the installer is pushed out for the current "stable" version, the next focus is on OSX integration, and performance improvements. Do we have a feel for how the latest snapshots performs compared to ZEVO? Are we talking 5-10-20%, or is it so high we suspect there is a problem? Having said

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-10 Thread brendon . humphrey
yllluminate, Yes its a given that we are slower that Zevo at this point. I am disturbed to hear of your hangs. Perhaps you could be a bit more specific and let us know what build of zfs-osx you are running, on what hardware, and importantly whether the machine can be sshed into when it enters

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-10 Thread ylluminate
Yeah, I certainly wish it was just performance. A hang such as this is well beyond a performance issue at the moment. I'm probably going to just go back to using ZFS on FBSD to keep my backups and use software RAID on my workstations until maczfs matures or Greenbytes get's its proverbial head

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-10 Thread Daniel
I also switched from Zevo this weekend. I didn't want to be stuck on 10.8 forever and I noticed some performance difference, that's for sure. However, I'm grateful for all the work the guys are doing so I can use it :) Hopefully performance will be addressed too though. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 3:

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-10 Thread ylluminate
Well I'm getting hangs that are at least an order of magnitude worse than ZEVO now. At one point prior to the memory issues being worked around I had a lot of hangs where I would have to reboot the system from a remote ssh session or just hold the power in and hard reboot it. I am finding aft

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-09 Thread Jason Belec
Haha. I'm not claiming anything other than results of current testing. However for me, importing old pools and updating has not provided the performance of starting fresh. All that said, lot of things could be different in individual pool creation. Those coming from ZEVO may have significantly d

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-09 Thread Daniel
Is my understanding correct that you can't "fix" a pool after it's been created, but you actually have to create a new pool with the optimal settings of the day, and copy data around to get performance improvements? That doesn't sound right. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Jason Belec wrote: >

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-09 Thread Jason Belec
Haha, it was not derogatory just business term for guys coming out of Apple, starting something with the tech and getting acquired for whatever reason. Been there myself. However it does not change how end users feel. ;) As for your options, the change seems to be for pool vs zfs directory, but

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-09 Thread ylluminate
Please do not say things like that about Don. I know him personally and that is not what happened. I'm not going to get into details here as it is not appropriate, but it is frankly not what happened. I'll continue on my path then and work on getting everything off this pool and recreate it.

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-09 Thread Jason Belec
Yes to everything you noticed. That said, hoping for anything Don did, is utterly pointless. He walked away with cash in his pocket. Currently pools are being built with commands like this zpool create -f -O compression=lz4 -O casesensitivity=insensitive -O normalization=formD -O atime=off

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-08 Thread ylluminate
Also curious, what has been the best pool and zfs creation args you've seen so far with best results here? After I get data migrated off of this pool and onto a temp volume I'll recreate the pool and run a test again here in a few days to see if I get some different results. Nonetheless, I ce

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-08 Thread ylluminate
Here's a history( `zpool history`): https://gist.github.com/915f6d99b219a80d7cdb -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "zfs-macos" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zfs-macos+unsubscr...@googleg

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-08 Thread Jason Belec
Whats the pool history say about how this was created? I understand your importing, which may contribute to issues. Seen some in pools that are old that I've imported before copying contents to new pools with the suggested parameters. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:5

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-08 Thread ylluminate
Oh, and just to give a quick idea of how dramatic those peaks are compared to the last 24 hours without zfs enabled, here is a graph: http://cl.ly/image/3f2e2t1w2s38 -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "zfs-macos" group. To unsubscribe from this gr

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-08 Thread ylluminate
In this particular case the pool is an imported ZEVO pool. I don't yet have the luxury of creating a new pool until I move this data around I did perform an upgrade on this pool and here are the settings: zpool: https://gist.github.com/25315011067796c62b43 zfs: https://gist.github.com/03d7016422

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-08 Thread Jason Belec
Can you give us the info that you used to build the test pools? -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:28 PM, ylluminate wrote: > > Hi folks, thought it was time to try maczfs again. I am shifting over from > ZEVO due to GreenByte's fubar of the project. Seems like the shi

[zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-08 Thread ylluminate
Hi folks, thought it was time to try maczfs again. I am shifting over from ZEVO due to GreenByte's fubar of the project. Seems like the shift over to OpenZFS is worthwhile and I'm satisfied to see some positive results. One thing that has bothered me so far is the marked differential in spee