This message is symbolic, therefore it cannot be construed to contain
any particular meaning. Take a stab in the dark, interpret it however
you like. One guess is as good as another.
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Mij Ebaboc
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/// ZION LIST C
Double bummer. Well, look after your own emotional health, too. I've learned the
hard way that physical illness can have all kinds of psychological effects which
in turn exacerbate the physical illness. I wish I had known that before I
"decided" to get sick. :-/
You'll be in our prayers.
Steven M
The currency in Nigeria is called the Naira and it's so worthless you can't even
bribe border guards with it.
Gary Smith wrote:
> I'm not greedy. If I send in $250, will they send me a quarter million?
> And is that in dollars or Nigerian rubles?
>
> K'aya K'ama,
> Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @
This issue comes up in apologetics all the time, especially with respect to the
evident lack of horses in the New World between the end of the ice age and the
time of Columbus (the Vikings don't count because it's known they didn't bring
horses with them). And the answer, or more properly, I suppos
Now, if we can just stop the flow of terrorists from the US into our country that'll
be even
better.
Grampa Bill wrote:
> Marc A. Schindler wrote:
>
> > Our foreign affairs people
> >are advising Canadian citizens who were born in the Middle East not to travel via
>the US.
> >
> ===
"John W. Redelfs" wrote:
> At 01:56 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
>
> >You're asking a question Diamond doesn't attempt to answer, and there's no
> >easy way
> >to answer this.
>
> I don't believe I suggested that Diamond was supposed to answer my
> question. I asked my question
>Ok, I was just asking. Yet, it was not entirely a "throw away remark,"
as
>after four years at a job that was perfect for myself and family at the
>time, I now find myself among the ranks of the unemployed.
O dear! I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you get...
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well put, Dan. Science has a methodology which is based upon certain assumptions.
Many scientists make the mistake of assuming that that's all there is. But many
non-scientists likewise make the mistake of pooh-poohing a scientific discovery
out of ignorance of how science works, or because on the
Jim, care to back *any* of this up with any actual facts, rather than just a
rant?
Jim Cobabe wrote:
> John,
>
> Scientists are free to indulge their fancy. Obviously there's little
> historic evidence to substantiate supposedly "prehistoric" events. For
> many science devotees, one basic premi
I'm sorry to hear that. It can be very disruptive and discouraging, and I wish you
all the best in finding something you enjoy as soon as possible. And seriously, if
you're a high-tech worker or a professional in various other departments, as a
citizen of a NAFTA country you can get a job anywhere
I'm not greedy. If I send in $250, will they send me a quarter million?
And is that in dollars or Nigerian rubles?
K'aya K'ama,
Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www
.geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html
"No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." -
Johan
Marc A. Schindler wrote:
Our foreign affairs people
are advising Canadian citizens who were born in the Middle East not to travel via the US.
=
Grampa Bill comments:
Well, that's about the best news I've heard lately!
"Don't waste the atonement."
Sue Woodbury, Oc
At 04:42 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
Of course they're true. But what do you mean by "true"? Scientists use a
different definition, and this is where the apparent contradictions arise.
Science is forever tentative and can only deal with the physical data it
has at
hand. It's bee
At 04:13 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Dan R Allen wrote:
Something else to consider on the sheep issue John is that we seem to be
the only group that understands that Adam lived here - I think that most
people assume that Eden was somewhere in what is now the mid-east, if they
think about it at all.
US officials have given in to diplomatic entreaties and are treating
foreign-born Canadians the same as natural-born Canadians. This after a
number of incidents such as one where an Iranian born contract
programmer enroute to a job in San Francisco, who moved to Canada as a
young child, was delayed
Scientists go from the assumption that the Bible isn't secular history, and in
that they are right. Apples and oranges.
Zion wrote:
> John:
> Has anyone on the list read GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL by Jared Diamond? It won
>
> the Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction in 1998. I am about half way
> t
Stephen Beecroft wrote:
> -Marc-
> > when it can dip *below* -40oC (which is also, as you probably
> > know, -40oF).
>
> This is unnecessarily cruel. There was no need to preempt my favorite
> smart-alek comment. Meanie.
>
You mean how F really means Foreignheat?
>
> Stephen
>
> Automobiles do
Of course they're true. But what do you mean by "true"? Scientists use a
different definition, and this is where the apparent contradictions arise.
Science is forever tentative and can only deal with the physical data it has at
hand. It's been very useful and I wouldn't want to do without it, but y
At 01:56 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
You're asking a question Diamond doesn't attempt to answer, and there's no
easy way
to answer this.
I don't believe I suggested that Diamond was supposed to answer my
question. I asked my question of the members of this list. If Diamond
John:
It seems to me that an honest scholar would just stick to writing things he
can authenticate using the documentary record, or at least the
archaeological record. In the absence of such records the author isn't
just engaging in unfounded supposition, he is engaged in irresponsible
guessin
At 12:27 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Zion wrote:
The problem with the study of truly ancient languages and cultures is the
lack of real records. A lot of this type of scholarship has to be based on
supposition; personal bias will get in the way. I don't think that there
is really any way around that.
John,
Scientists are free to indulge their fancy. Obviously there's little
historic evidence to substantiate supposedly "prehistoric" events. For
many science devotees, one basic premise is that nothing supernatural
exists. In science to acknowledge the existence or act of God is an
awful
Ok, I was just asking. Yet, it was not entirely a "throw away remark," as
after four years at a job that was perfect for myself and family at the
time, I now find myself among the ranks of the unemployed.
--
Steven Montgomery
At 11:29 AM 11/1/2002, you wrote:
Well, I'm not a headhunter so can't
I have.
"John W. Redelfs" wrote:
> Has anyone on the list read GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL by Jared Diamond? It won
> the Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction in 1998. I am about half way
> through it, and I'm getting bogged down.
>
> This guy is a scientist and a historian, but he keeps explaining
> -Original Message-
> From: Sandy and Melinda Rabinowitz [mailto:zion@;firstnephi.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ZION] Charter issue? RE: [LDSD] You just don't get it
>
> Bro. Ross--
>
> I know you mean well, and I do not speak as the
Darn it, I hate it when I keep posting to the wrong list!
Oh well, I won't repeat myself. I was blowing off steam,
anyway. /Sandy/
Sandy and Melinda Rabinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bro. Ross--
>
>I know you mean well, [snip]
/
In the 1P statement on the MX missile, Pres. Kimball says something to the effect
that there was never a time that weapons were made, that they weren't used.
"John W. Redelfs" wrote:
> In every age of mankind's sojourn upon this earth, he has supposed that his
> technology is superior to all thos
Bro. Ross--
I know you mean well, and I do not speak as the listowner or anyone having authority,
but I am not sure it is appropriate to post the telephone numbers of stake presidents,
bishops, or other church leaders on a public or semi-public forum such as LDS-Doctrine
or ZION, especially if
John:
Has anyone on the list read GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL by Jared Diamond? It won
the Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction in 1998. I am about half way
through it, and I'm getting bogged down.
This guy is a scientist and a historian, but he keeps explaining how
domesticated plants were devel
Chris Grant, a participant on a sister list of Zion-L's, posted a
question he asked of Christopher Hichens who is what I think you might
call in the US a "good liberal" if that isn't oxymoronic. I've long been
a fan of his, and I think Christ liked Hichens' latest book, "Why Orwell
Matters." But i
-Marc-
> when it can dip *below* -40oC (which is also, as you probably
> know, -40oF).
This is unnecessarily cruel. There was no need to preempt my favorite
smart-alek comment. Meanie.
Stephen
Automobiles don't kill people. People driving automobiles kill people.
And the sooner we can get all
Well, I'm not a headhunter so can't say, and realize this is a "throw-away remark,"
but since I'm still an Alberta civil servant responsible for high-tech trade
promotion, even though I'm on medical leave, the salesman cells in my blood
(vendocytes, they're called...) are still there. Heaven knows
>Maybe the scriptures really are just an ancient collection of
>Hebrew folk talks. Is that possible?
Well, I've put all my eggs in one basket in the which the scriptures are
true. However, it seems that symbolism plays a major part in the stories
told of the Bible which could make what we think
Has anyone on the list read GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL by Jared Diamond? It won
the Pulitzer Prize for general nonfiction in 1998. I am about half way
through it, and I'm getting bogged down.
This guy is a scientist and a historian, but he keeps explaining how
domesticated plants were developed by
They must be stepping up their "attack" of these scam letters. I usually
receive one or two of these a year, but, for some odd reason, just in the
last few weeks I've received several.
--
Steven Montgomery
At 08:25 PM 10/31/2002, you wrote:
I know there's a lot of hilarity in this thread, but i
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