On Apr 7, 2005, at 1:45, Florent Guillaume wrote:
After spending an hour helping someone debug a site that had an hidden
SiteRoot somewhere that prevented a virtual host monster from working,
it was suggested to me that if there's a virtual host monster, it
should take precedence (and
On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:50, Andreas Jung wrote:
Even small modifications to the security machinery tend to
end up in lots of problems.
The latest prominent example: the changes introduced with
Zope 2.7.3: It took two releases (until 2.7.5) and
more than 6 months (at least in my memory) before
Am Donnerstag, den 07.04.2005, 01:45 +0200 schrieb Florent Guillaume:
After spending an hour helping someone debug a site that had an hidden
SiteRoot somewhere that prevented a virtual host monster from working,
it was suggested to me that if there's a virtual host monster, it
should take
On Apr 7, 2005, at 9:08, Tino Wildenhain wrote:
Am Donnerstag, den 07.04.2005, 01:45 +0200 schrieb Florent Guillaume:
After spending an hour helping someone debug a site that had an hidden
SiteRoot somewhere that prevented a virtual host monster from working,
it was suggested to me that if there's
Andreas Jung wrote:
Chris wants to backport it to 2.7 x; I'm opposed. Your call.
If it does not change the default behaviour we have in 2.7.5... why not...
Cool, thanks, I'll look at merging for 2.7.6 :-)
cheers,
Chris
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Richard Jones wrote:
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On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 02:49 am, Jim Fulton wrote:
Paul Winkler wrote:
i.e. will I still write:
security.declareProtected(SomePermission, 'foo')
def foo(self):
...
That will work, and I don't see a need to deprecate it.
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Andreas Jung wrote:
I wonder if it is of public interest to include the ExtendedPathIndex
from Plone in Zope 2.8.
It offers some the nice extension to limit the depth of the search and
improves building navigation-trees
or similar structures.
-1 for removing it. I think it's a cool feature :-)
I like the ability to use a 'blank' SiteRoot (one with a blank base and
path) in conjunction with an access rule to set request variables when I
access my site in through a particular point (eg set the plone_skin
variable when I access my site
Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder if it is of public interest to include the ExtendedPathIndex from
Plone in Zope 2.8.
It offers some the nice extension to limit the depth of the search and
improves building navigation-trees or similar structures. Opinions?
+1 if it's a
Richard Jones wrote:
[snip]
Is this a general trend for Zope 2? I'd rather see Zope 2 kinda avoid ZCML if
possible.
The Five integration philosophy at least, is that it makes use of ZCML
*possible* in Zope 2, but not at all mandatory. Five tries to mess with
the innards of Zope 2 as much as
--On Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 8:00 Uhr -0400 Tres Seaver
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I doubt many folks on this list know the code that well. Are you
thinking to lift the features you mention, making them part of the
regular PathIndex? Also, what
Richard Jones wrote:
Is this a general trend for Zope 2? I'd rather see Zope 2 kinda avoid ZCML if
possible. It's just one of those personal preference things, I suppose, but I
know I'm not the only one who isn't that enamored of the ZCML approach. I
actually like having the declarations all in
Chris Withers wrote:
Richard Jones wrote:
Is this a general trend for Zope 2? I'd rather see Zope 2 kinda avoid
ZCML if possible. It's just one of those personal preference things, I
suppose, but I know I'm not the only one who isn't that enamored of
the ZCML approach. I actually like having
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Laurence Rowe wrote:
-1 for removing it. I think it's a cool feature :-)
I like the ability to use a 'blank' SiteRoot (one with a blank base and
path) in conjunction with an access rule to set request variables when I
access my site in through a
Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 14:49 Uhr +0200 Martijn Faassen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas Jung wrote:
I wonder if it is of public interest to include the ExtendedPathIndex
from Plone in Zope 2.8. It offers some the nice extension to limit
the depth of the search and
--On Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 20:15 Uhr +0200 Martijn Faassen
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Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 14:49 Uhr +0200 Martijn Faassen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas Jung wrote:
I wonder if it is of public interest to include the ExtendedPathIndex
from
Paul Winkler wrote:
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Laurence Rowe wrote:
-1 for removing it. I think it's a cool feature :-)
I like the ability to use a 'blank' SiteRoot (one with a blank base and
path) in conjunction with an access rule to set request variables when I
access my site
Richard Jones wrote:
Is this a general trend for Zope 2? I'd rather see Zope 2 kinda avoid ZCML if
possible. It's just one of those personal preference things, I suppose, but I
know I'm not the only one who isn't that enamored of the ZCML approach.
ZCML started out for me (and as an experinced
Andrew Milton wrote:
I think people on this list need to realize that eventually, the direction of
any significantly large Open Source project is hijacked by the relatively
small number of people actually doing the work.
The reasons for this are many-fold, but, normally come down to a lack of
flame
What gives us the right to dictate what features these people give up
their time to work on? Sure, Zope (the company) pays some, but others
seem to do it for no direct reward, other than the Zope program.
end flame
I admire these people, I have no idea what goes through Zope, though I
ok, i get it.
So what is the way to set a request form var in the python script.
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:55:33 -0300, Jose Henrique dos Reis
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Your request.set puts 'invalid' in request/other, not in request/form.
Zenrique
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Ok i get it,
please tell me the way to set a request form var in a python script
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:55:33 -0300, Jose Henrique dos Reis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your request.set puts 'invalid' in request/other, not in request/form.
Zenrique
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From my login page I'm calling a python script for redirecting it to
seperate pages.
there if login fails i the login page is to be redirected along with
setting a hidden form field 'invalid' by '1'.
For this I've to set the request/form.invalid value so that it is
available to thelogin page.
is
I have a product where I convert some external datetimes to zope
DateTime() objects. I save them as UTC as zopes DateTime does by default.
But when these are rendered, the time is offset by two hours.
A few weeks ago, it wasn't that bad. It was only one hour, but then
summertime came along ;-)
David H escribió:
Andrew Milton wrote:
I think people on this list need to realize that eventually, the
direction of
any significantly large Open Source project is hijacked by the
relatively
small number of people actually doing the work.
The reasons for this are many-fold, but, normally come
Jim Fulton wrote:
Jake wrote:
My question, since it now seems like I am not the only one using ZClasses
I doubt that that is the case.
Sorry, I missread your note. I meant to say that I was
sure you are *not* the only one using ZClasses.
Jim
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hope i get this through !!!
In my plone site I've added a portal_tab through portal_actions.
i've made a subfolder in my plone site root folder for it.
I gave the path in the action value field of the tabs as :
string:$portal_url/consumables
now the problem is that when i click on my tab the
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Lennart Regebro wrote at 2005-4-5 11:48 +0200:
On the Paris sprint, one thing that was noted was how ironic it was
that the release of 2.8, which includes support for the new
recommended development paradigm, was held up becuase we neeeded to
support an old non-recommended
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On the Paris sprint, one thing that was noted was how ironic it was
that the release of 2.8, which includes support for the new
recommended development paradigm, was held up becuase we neeeded to
support an old non-recommended one. :-)
It boils down to backward
Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Dienstag, 5. April 2005 16:38 Uhr -0400 Jake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
And that is probably the best arguement for keeping them around longer.
We should get to the point: if some people depend on ZClasses then they
should
take over some responsibility in maintaining
Ausum Studio wrote:
...
As for ZC, IMHO the issue should be treated as a matter of understanding
the market rather than achieving a milestone. You created stuff that works
in some way or another that people embraced. You also changed your company
name to the name of the product of yours that
Jonathan Cyr wrote:
Yoohoo,
ZClasses are not an expert technology to use, they are an introduction
to Zope... Just because I use a thing, doesn't mean I can
support/maintain a thing.
Exactly. I want you to use Zope even if you aren't in a position to
maintain
it yourself.
I can read the
Max M wrote:
I have a product where I convert some external datetimes to zope
DateTime() objects. I save them as UTC as zopes DateTime does by default.
But when these are rendered, the time is offset by two hours.
Ok. I was unclear here.
I convert from datetime objects (python) to DateTime
from a newbie,
i've this ZSQLmethod returning me a string only. how do i
store it a var in my python script.
eg., userlevel = container.getUserLevel(uname=user)
when i print it using html_quote as :
print (%s) % html_quote(userlevel)
return printed
output is :
--On Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 4:10 Uhr -0700 prabuddha ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
from a newbie,
i've this ZSQLmethod returning me a string only. how do i
store it a var in my python script.
eg., userlevel = container.getUserLevel(uname=user)
when i print it using html_quote as :
Am Donnerstag, den 07.04.2005, 04:10 -0700 schrieb prabuddha ray:
from a newbie,
i've this ZSQLmethod returning me a string only. how do i
store it a var in my python script.
eg., userlevel = container.getUserLevel(uname=user)
when i print it using html_quote as :
print (%s) %
Hi!
I need to browse (from a client) server file system.
Does exist a zope object to do that?
or, how can I do it? (I think external method in python, isn't it?)
Thanks,
Fabio
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Jim Fulton said:
(There are no plans to deprecate DTML. It is even supported in Zope 3.)
That is the best news I have heard all day (although, it is early).
Jake
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Jake wrote:
Jim Fulton said:
(There are no plans to deprecate DTML. It is even supported in Zope 3.)
That is the best news I have heard all day (although, it is early).
I will be selling black flags for the mourning of a missed opportunity...
Chris
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Jim Fulton wrote:
I've gotten a lot of grief because of the effort I've been putting into
getting them to work with Zope 2.8 and the effect that that has had
on the 2.8 schedule. Many active Zope developers are (understandbly)
dismissive of ZClasses, but I think we can't ignore the many people
Wladmir Araujo Chapetta wrote:
How can i instantiate a external method within my Container Product?
Tell us why you think you need to first...
Chris
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Fabio Marcone wrote:
Does exist a zope object to do that?
Google for LocalFS.
cheers,
Chris
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On Wednesday 06 April 2005 16:52, Dieter Maurer wrote:
For new projects, you should investigate the new options.
Product development will get much simpler with Zope3 technology
(and its schemas and views). Currently, there is no TTW
(Through The Web) development in Zope3 land, but that is
Chris Withers wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
I think ZPT and python scripts are much more useful tools for newbies
who will often enter with a scripting rather than OO frame of mind.
Wouldn't that be ZPT and adapters ;-)
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http://www.mxm.dk/
IT's Mad Science
Dieter Maurer wrote:
I is just that with exUserFolder, there is a management page
where you configure the parameters for the user cache -- that's all
of it. No special Python Scripts, no association with a RAMCacheManager,
no headache with invalidation (after user object changes through the
Re: [Zope] Does anyone care whether we deprecate ZClasses? To:
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text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jonathan Cyr wrote at 2005-4-6 16:06 -0400:
... just show me how under-represented that beginner and intermediate
Zope
Hi Chris,
Chris Withers wrote:
(There are no plans to deprecate DTML. It is even supported in Zope 3.)
That is the best news I have heard all day (although, it is early).
I will be selling black flags for the mourning of a missed opportunity...
With or without a circled A?
;-)
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Regards,
PhilK
(keep replies on the list, more people can help that way)
Pete Taylor wrote:
thanks man. doing it that way has cleared up the security problem. i've
run into others trying to access xml-rpc methods remotely (zope keeps
passing the __roles__ checks back to the xmlrpc server, which says i don't
Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jake wrote:
Jim Fulton said:
(There are no plans to deprecate DTML. It is even supported in Zope 3.)
That is the best news I have heard all day (although, it is early).
I will be selling black flags for the mourning of a missed opportunity...
Max M wrote:
When I convert to DateTime objects, they are saved as 9:00 Universal.
So that is correct too.
Ok. Turned out that I have misunderstood zopes DateTime().
It saves in UTC, but it still needs a timezone.
So converting datetime objects to the local timezone and then converting
to
Florent Guillaume wrote:
Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jake wrote:
Jim Fulton said:
(There are no plans to deprecate DTML. It is even supported in Zope 3.)
That is the best news I have heard all day (although, it is early).
I will be selling black flags for the mourning of a missed
*grin*
true enough.
at its simplest level, I've been trying to just import xmlrpclib and use it
normally in scripts. I used my __init__.py to allow_module('xmlrpclib'),
which has stopped it from throwing security errors. however, when I
actually run a test script, I get the following:
Error
Pete Taylor wrote:
*grin*
true enough.
at its simplest level, I've been trying to just import xmlrpclib and use it
normally in scripts.
http://www.zope.org/Members/EIONET/XMLRPC
the product lets you call remote xmlrpc and other zope servers
(here is a patch if you need zope authentication too:
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 02:44:38PM +0200, Max M wrote:
Max M wrote:
When I convert to DateTime objects, they are saved as 9:00 Universal.
So that is correct too.
Ok. Turned out that I have misunderstood zopes DateTime().
It saves in UTC, but it still needs a timezone.
So converting
Hi, hope you can help.
We are currently linking a webpage to an SQL database and are pulling in
information via the tal:replace function. This is working extremely
well however one of our SQL fields is comma deliminated, and we want it
to appear as a list. We have accomplished this by using
use tal:content=id instead of result/interests
Phil Beardmore wrote:
Hi, hope you can help.
We are currently linking a webpage to an SQL database and are pulling
in information via the tal:replace function. This is working
extremely well however one of our SQL fields is comma deliminated, and
Phil Beardmore wrote:
Hi, hope you can help.
We are currently linking a webpage to an SQL database and are pulling in
information via the tal:replace function. This is working extremely
well however one of our SQL fields is comma deliminated, and we want it
to appear as a list. We have
+---[ Jim Fulton ]--
| Well said.
|
| I mostly agree, however, there needs to be a balance. We are
| introducing a process for orderly deprecation of features. I hope
| it works. It's mainly useful for changes that are straightforward
| to recover from. We have to
Thanks to both Barry and Madhavi for the solution. Works great guys!
Ta
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From: Barry Pederson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, April 7, 2005 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Zope] TAL/SQL Problem
Phil Beardmore wrote:
Hi, hope you can help.
We are currently linking a
Thank You for giving me a
timeframe for this stuff. 4 to 6 years is indeed a long time. That
would, in effect triple the lifespan of my project, and be far more
reasonable.
It was the "yeah, dump it today" remarks that set me off. These
remarks are shortsighted at best, and harmful to Zope's
prabuddha ray wrote at 2005-4-6 23:17 -0700:
So what is the way to set a request form var in the python script.
Please read the Zope Book -- carefully!
You should find a section explaining the request object,
its API (especially its set method) and its essential attributes
form, cookies, other
Chris Withers wrote at 2005-4-7 13:22 +0100:
...
but the
community as a whole recommends against them, which seems to be the
consensus here.
A funny definition of consensus...
It may be the majority opinion but it definitely is not consensus...
--
Dieter
Jim Fulton wrote at 2005-4-7 05:50 -0400:
Dieter Maurer wrote:
...
ZClasses feature prominently in the Zope book.
That should probably be fixed.
Seems they are more recommended than the new development paradigm (which
does not yet feature at all in the Zope book).
The new developement
Chris Withers wrote at 2005-4-7 13:29 +0100:
...
I believe in re-using lots of simple compments to build complex
applications. I hate to see loads of common concepts like caching,
sessions, cookie-management and rdb interaction re-implemented in
non-reusable ways so many times...
You are
Yuri wrote at 2005-4-7 14:30 +0200:
...
Isn't Archetypes only for Plone?
No, it can be used with pure CMF...
... if one is ready to fix a few Plone dependencies that creep
in in most Archetype releases.
...
Just release a way to convert a Zclass to a Python Product (at least
for the
On 07.Apr 2005 - 20:13:58, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Yuri wrote at 2005-4-7 14:30 +0200:
...
Isn't Archetypes only for Plone?
No, it can be used with pure CMF...
... if one is ready to fix a few Plone dependencies that creep
in in most Archetype releases.
...
Just release a way to
- Original Message -
From: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(...)
I submitted a patch to the Zope collector but I had removed
one bit of black magic too much -- and other products broke that
were dependent on this magic.
My patch which were already integrated into the Zope
Chris,
absolutely right. I got confused and misinterpreted a behavior I was
getting with crashes. I was finding that the Zope instance would fail
if I didn't have certain files that were in the 2.7.5 Products folder
duped in the instance dir...but as it turned out, it all boiled down
to a single
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