Re: [Zope] ZWiki RecentChanges problem with 2.1.6

2000-05-18 Thread Chris Withers

Chris Withers wrote:

[snip rubbish ;-)]

This actually isn't the case, someone had just helpfully turned off
'Access Contents Information' higher up the tree...

Doh!

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Deleting folder-like objects.

2000-05-22 Thread Chris Withers

Bill Anderson wrote:
   2) Deleting a folder effectively removes everything under it (well, you

[snip]

  catalog (leaving a nasty mess behind them...)
 
 Yeah, that can be annoying.

Is there is any reason for it?

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Netscape Image Problems (LoginManager?)

2000-05-22 Thread Chris Withers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Well I have determined that it has nothing to do with PTK or Login Manager,
 well I think
 anyway...

I would agree as I've experienced this exact same problem with Netscape
3.04 and my Squishdot site at http://www.bay-c.co.uk

cheers,

Chris

PS: I'd love to know what's causing this...

PPS: Is anyone who's experiencing this using SiteAccess?

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Re: [Zope] Netscape Image Problems (LoginManager?)

2000-05-22 Thread Chris Withers

Jon Delheimer wrote:
 
 Checking the Z2.log file shows that Zope is returning a 500 status code
 (Internal Server Error) when the broken images appear.

That's not good :(

That means something is causing the requests to go astray.

Can you see what the requested object is compared with the URL you would
expect?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Broken ZWiki

2000-05-22 Thread Chris Withers

Jason Cunliffe wrote:
 when I install ZWiki Product, the FrontPage, HelpPage etc are all
 brokendoes it rely on another class being present?

 ZWikiWeb

Either see Evan's post or read:

http://www.zope.org/Members/chrisw/ZWikiWeb/install

...particularly the bit about ZWikiWeb requiring ZWiki 0.6 to be
installed ;-)

I have to stress this again, ZWikiWeb is merely a wrapper for ZWiki.
ZWiki is the real product and I'd like to thank Simon for giving us such
an amazing product.

cheers,

Chris

PS: Now, if I could just rename a Wiki page through the Wiki interface
and have all links to that page updated... ;-)

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Re: [Zope] Updating one data.fs from another

2000-05-23 Thread Chris Withers

I export a whole subtree from by Dev instance and import it into the
production instance...

HTH,

Chris

Graham Chiu wrote:
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 I do development on my site on my notebook, and then rather than
 overwriting my production data.fs, I then manually make the changes to
 the production data.fs by create/cut/paste from my development data.fs
 which is all very painful.
 
 I tried ftp'ing into my development site, but some things like
 TinyTables are 0 bytes in size and can't be accessed.
 
 My browser also doesn't support cut/paste of whole documents from one
 data.fs to another, just the data whereas it supports this within a
 data.fs.
 
 Is there some other way to propagate changes from a development site to
 a production site?
 
 - --
 Regards,  Graham Chiu
 gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz
 http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php
 Powered by Interbase and Zope
 
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Re: [Zope] does this app exist?

2000-05-23 Thread Chris Withers

Heiko Stoermer wrote:
 What I can tell you is this: if you develop a "ZScheduler" and it
 becomes part of the Zope Standard distribution, the Zope community will
 be VERY glad.

ZScheduler already exists, it's just very buggy.

Check the mail archives for 'ZScheduler' and have a look at:
http://www.zope.org/Members/lstaffor/ZScheduler

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Zope Newbie Questions

2000-05-23 Thread Chris Withers

Hi Daniel,

Resources I'd recommend:

The Zope Documentation Portal - http://zdp.zope.org
The Zope Site - http://www.zope.org
The Zope Mailing List - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(see http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope for details)

I've copied your questions to the zope list in the hope that someone
with time can help you out :-)

Good luck,

Chris

PS: Short answers:

- Try adding 'Image' objects for your graphic needs.
- With the Free Zope Hosting option, I don't think there's any way you
can do a bulk upload, but Itamar's loadsite.py utility may be able to
help...
- If you like DreamWeaver, I'd recommend our Professional Zope Hosting
option, as DreamWeaver should work fine with this...


Daniel Muller wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Thank you for setting up my free Zope account.  I've been very interested in
 this product for some time but have not been able to play with it until now.
 
 I think I may be in over my head but here goes anyway.  Essentially I have
 no programming skills.  My HTML is good and Dreamweaver seems to take care
 of the rest.  My talent lies more on the design side of the business. (check
 out http://www.gradcenter.marlboro.edu/ and http://www.kapellandkostow.com/)
 
 I plan to use your service to recreate Marlboro College's web site as a
 means of exploring zope.
 
 So far I've been able to rebuild the basic directory structure and now I'm
 hoping to upload some graphics files.
 
 Must this be done one at a time or is there a mechanism for uploading entire
 directories at once?  Does ftp mean anything in zope?
 
 Where should this question best be asked?  (I'm sure you are far to busy to
 field newbie questions on free accounts)
 
 Thanks again for this wonderful opportunity.
 
 Daniel
 
 --
 Daniel Muller
 Director of Internet Development
 Marlboro College
 
 (802) 251-7613

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Re: [Zope] Really dumb newbie question

2000-05-23 Thread Chris Withers

Andy Gates wrote:
 dtml-if action == "add"

dtml-if "action=='add'"

Been there, done that, learned the magic incantations ;-)

The " " makes it into a python expression...

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] dtml-in REQUEST

2000-05-23 Thread Chris Withers

try just plain dtml-var REQUEST

That on it's own will probably give you what you want...

Chris

kwan wrote:
 
 I remember I saw somewhere about it.
 but I couldn't search it out again.
 
 Can anyone tell me the correct way to do things like following?
 
 dtml-in REQUEST
 dtlm-var "key":dtml-var "value"
 /dtml
 
 I want to check the indivial item inside the REQUEST one time at a time.
 
 but if I do dtml-in REQUEST  I think it is not actually a list so that
 it is
 usable by dtml-in tag
 
 Kwan
 
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Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-24 Thread Chris Withers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm sorry, but I have to say, the ZOPE documentation, despite efforts
 to improve it, is absolutely, positively horrible.  Not because the
 content isn't there, but because the tools to access it simply suck.

Gotta agree with this :(

 Additionally, the zdp web site is a real nice idea that is SO poorly
 executed IMO as to make it totally unusable.  

ZDP is currently undergoing a lot of development and unfortunately I
have to agree that it isn't there yet...

Unfortunately, no-one is getting paid to do it, and everyone who is
working on it would probably get fired if they spent enough time on it
to REALLY get the job done...

I reckon there's about 25 man weeks of work to do based on 5 people
spending:
-1 week to build the tools
-1 week to plan the structure of the documentation
-3 weeks to get ALL the Zope documentation linked in one place (which is
what zdp is supposed to be...)

So, has anyone got the cash? ;-)

Once this is done, it will be less work to keep that documentation up to
date. Hopefully, eventually, all documentation would end up on
zdp.zope.org and not just be linked from it...

 You can't even browse
 the documentation without clicking through a thousand different
 links.  

I agree here too :(

(I can give you specific examples of how to improve the site
 if you want.)

Send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED], in fact, better still, JOIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
go and make the changes yourself :-)

Good luck, I think you're (or should that be 'we're all') going to need
it...

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Importing a 2.1 .zexp file into 2.2

2000-05-24 Thread Chris Withers

Kevin Dangoor wrote:
   STRONGError Type: InvalidObjectReference/STRONGBR
   STRONGError Value: Attempt to store a wrapped persistent
 object/STRONGBR

Apparently storing a wrapped object is a security hole, I bumped into a
post about it in the collector after searching for ZCatalog...

So, something, somewhere in your zexp has a wrapped object...

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Reloading products

2000-05-24 Thread Chris Withers

Seb Bacon wrote:
(n.b. is
 there any way of reloading a product without the tedium of stopping and
 starting zope?)

There is a very-alpha product for doing this floating around on the
zope-dev list. check the archives...

Chris

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Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers

Paul Everitt wrote:
 
 Howdy gang.  Below is an announcement that we'll start distributing over
 the next 24 hours.  I wanted to let you folks see it first.  In summary:
 Perl Methods.

Why is this a good thing? ;-)

Chris

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Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers

Budi Wiyono wrote:
 
 Agreed...
 We can use COM, CORBA, SOAP, etc.

 On the other hand, we'll likely do even more things like this over the
 year: open up to COM, CORBA, etc. as method facilities.
 
 --Paul

Now ya talkin :-)

bring it on... 

Chris

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Re: [Zope] syndication??

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers

Webmaster wrote:
 The concept is simple enough, but I just don't know how I could do the same
 thing in Zope. I am setting up a system where daily articles can be entered
 weeks in advance and will only appear on the web site when the date matches
 their "go live date" (easy). But I would also like the article to be emailed
 to my distribution email list on its "go live date".

Check out:
http://www.zope.org/Members/chrisw/ZopeEmail/FrontPage
http://www.zope.org/Members/lstaffor/ZScheduler

Both would do what you want, one isn't implemented and the other doesn't
work.

If other people are interested, that could change...

Chris

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Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers

Chris McDonough wrote:
 
 This is pretty silly.
 
 Very soon we'll be forced, 'cause most Products will be in
  Perl (yse,
  I've read the FAQ and saw "no Perl Products"; it's temporary,
  mark you).

I have to say, I'm not convinced it is. Providing Perl methods is like
drilling a hole through a dyke wall. By getting loads of perl
programmers on board, you suddenly have a large userbase wishing they
can do more in perl, so you implement perl products. (yes, I've read the
FAQ too, hence my politicians comment...)

This userbase gets into hacking the core and bring perl into there.

Suddenly Zope is a total mess of perl and python and the whole community
shifts onto something cleaner leaving DC high and dry and spoiling a
perfect solution...

pessimistic, I know, but pessimism if often appropriate in computing...

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Re: ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers

Brad Clements wrote:

[snip story about DC peddling drugs... *joke*]

Yeah, fair point, but what if it goes the other way...

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers

Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote:
 I find the whole 'perl will pollute us' mentality quite disappointing,
 it's worse than a bunch of school girls arguing over which all boy
 band is best.

You never seen blokes arguing over which girl band is best ;-)

I agree though since it's a moot point anyway. It's going to happen now
and we just have to live with it :S

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers

"Dan L. Pierson" wrote:
 The perfect solution involves a mailing list server integrated with
 Zope, e.g. ZMailman.  This would probably also provide mailing list
 archives integrated with Zope and ZCatalog and easy integration of
 mailing list and PTK/Squishdot discussion traffic.  This has been
 talked about before.  IMHO, a *lot* of people would like to see it,
 including some of the Mailman developers, but no one has the time to
 do it.

Check out:
http://www.zope.org/Members/mindlace/MailZopeMan

I like these ideas a lot, but I'd prefer to see the low-level email
integration done seperately, so it can be used for other things.

My dream would be for Zope to pipe an email address to a specific
object/method without the need for any external mail servers or
scripts...

ZMailman could then very easily be built on top of this. However, if
ZMailman is built, I suspect it'd be difficult to use the core
functionality to do something else. What is the email equivalent of
Medusa? And can we 'borrow' it in the same way?

Any takers? ;-)

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From the python int doc string:
 
  print int.__doc__
 int(x) - integer
 
 Convert a string or number to an integer, if possible.
 A floating point argument will be truncated towards zero.

I _always_ get bitten by this :(

Sorry for my igorance, 

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Perl Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers

Paul Everitt wrote:
 You're absolutely right on this.  Amos' post recently described the
 various things in various stages of release that should give some hope
 for the situation.  These things really are an improvement.  I'm
 crossing my fingers that this turns into a torrent of material that
 turns an area that is a nightmare into an area of great pride.

What part do you see ZDP playing in this?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers

mindlace wrote:
 I don't quite see why MailHost isn't "low level integration"

Does MailHost do recieves as well as sends?

  My dream would be for Zope to pipe an email address to a specific
  object/method without the need for any external mail servers or
  scripts...
 
 Making Zope an MTA seems like a lot of extra work.  Now, Zope as an IMAP
 server I could get my head around...

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference?

 Well... I think that it's probably the shortest route to a functioning
 zope archive to use mailman-  already written in python, and modular
 enough that we should be able to take it one step at a time.

If this approach would let users email content into things like the PTK,
or more generally to create Zope objects by emailing content to an
address that corresponds to a Zope method or object then that's what I'm
on about.

Archiving mailing lists shouldn't be a big issue since there are already
Zope mailing list archives that are searchable in ways currently more
powerful than ZCatalog has to offer.

 Note that no mailing list software I know of tries to be an MTA.  With
 sooo many different implementation issues, making zope an MTA would be a
 big challenge, IMNSHO.

If it's not necessary, then don't do it, but if it is to get true
mailing of content into Zope then lets get started on it it now so the
end result arrives sooner...

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ?

2000-05-29 Thread Chris Withers

Kevin Dangoor wrote:
 Or, how about a dtml-expr tag (which could even start out as a simple
 synonym for dtml-var) so that people won't be confused about what is
 python and what is a variable lookup with the special calling properties.

This is a great idea :-)

New  Old---
dtml-var x dtml-var x dtml-var name="x"
dtml-expr "x"  dtml-var expr="x" dtml-var "x"

cheers,

Chris

PS: didn't Paul Everitt comment on this in the Perl thread?

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Re: [Zope] Traceback?

2000-05-29 Thread Chris Withers

Martijn Pieters wrote:
 If you switch debug mode off, tracebacks will be included in error messages as
 HTML comments, thus rendering them invisible from the unsuspecting site
 visitor.

Is that true even if you override standard_error_message?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ?

2000-05-29 Thread Chris Withers

Paul Everitt wrote:
 Shorthand notations are convenient, but when they get inconsistent, you
 wind up with the other P language. :^)

Woudl that be the one we're welcoming into the fold? ;-)

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Traceback? Codechange!

2000-05-29 Thread Chris Withers

Martijn Pieters wrote:
   Do I have to copy this message to the collector and wait for
   a couple of months or can we do it instantly? ;-)
 
 Do you still experience the Collector as black hole? Could you report this to
 Tres Seaver, the person currently monitoring the COllector and cleaning it
 out? Thanks!

It HAS got a lot better since Tres started, but there's still a load of
cruft in there; stuff that's not completed but is so old that it's now
irrelevant.

A small point, could all searches/browsing/etc all be sorted in reverse
date order?

That way I wouldn't have to trudge through a lot of Zope 1.x problems
just to get to the stuff that's relevant.

On a more radical thought, there was talk a while back of ditching the
collector in favour of a Tracker, whatever happened to that plan?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Wiki change notification

2000-05-29 Thread Chris Withers

Shane Hathaway wrote:

[snip wiki change notification]

What's does NetMind actually do?

The problem I see here is getting an email everytime someone hits
update, which can mean you get a storm of emails when a coupla people
edit a Wiki.

I thought of a Zope-based solution for this but haven't had time to
implement, not to mention it requires product that's bust:

The idea is to only get notified once a day when a Wiki _Web_ has been
changed...

The folder the web is in would have a lines-type property containing the
email addresses of everyone 'subscribed' to that web. And a flag called
changed... any page changes, the flag gets set.

Once a day (needs ZScheduler :( ) a method goes and checks the flag,
compiles a message containing links to all the pages that have changed
(including being created or deleted...) and mails it to everyone in the
list.

Anyone want to implement it? ;-)

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Wiki change notification

2000-05-29 Thread Chris Withers

Shane Hathaway wrote:
 Heh heh... that's almost exactly what NetMind does, Chris. g

Cool...

I'm guessing it's not written in Zope though... ;-)

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] Working with ZopeTime

2000-05-30 Thread Chris Withers

The python expression syntax strikes again :(

Tom Scheidt wrote:
 dtml-if "date1 == 'dtml-var ZopeTime fmt=Day'"

You're trying to embed DTML within python here.

you really want (untested):

dtml-if "date1 == _DateTime.now().Day()"

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] delete dictionary

2000-05-30 Thread Chris Withers

"urs.beyeler" wrote:
 dtml-call "REQUEST.set('Wednesday',{'titel' : 'how to do that?'})"
 
 ... and a bit later in the document i need to delete them again ...
 how can i do that? no one of my DELETE-experiments worked ... thnx.urs

Try the following (untested):

dtml-call "del REQUEST.misc['Wednesday']"

I found this in the mailing list archives at:
http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists.html

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] Zope 2.0.1 export

2000-05-30 Thread Chris Withers

Paul Gresham wrote:
 Hi, I have an old linux system running a document store I wrote some time
 ago in Zope 2.0.1. I've tried exporting my document store but cannot seem to
 get it re-imported into the latest version of Zope. I can ftp the documents
 out, but of course lose all the information about each document. Does anyone
 have any ideas on how to get this working ?

Have you tried just replacing the data.fs of a new Zope insatll with the
old one?

Maybe give it a try with a backup...

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Working with ZopeTime

2000-05-30 Thread Chris Withers

Shane Hathaway wrote:
 Close but no brownies for you.  :-)  Make that...
 
 dtml-if "date1 == _.DateTime().Day()"

Ack, a genuine typo...

I'm going home to sulk ;(

Chris

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[Zope] Squishdot 0.4.0 and Zope 2.2

2000-05-31 Thread Chris Withers

Cary O'Brien wrote:

[snip Squishdot 0.4.0 doesn't work with Zope 2.2]

 Give up, traceback below.

I guess it doesn't then :(

I suspect there will need to be a 0.4.3 (maybe 0.5.0) release that works
with Zope 2.2.
However I'll probably use the new traversal interface for it so it won't
work with any versions of Zope prior to 2.2.

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] KeyError since installing Squishdot 0.4.0

2000-06-01 Thread Chris Withers

On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, David Trudgett wrote:

 Since I installed Squishdot 0.4.0 (yesterday) on Zope 2.1.6 (under Red Hat 
 Linux) I've been getting KeyErrors when clicking on an article's topic 
 image, which uses an URL like this:
 
 http://myserver/Zope/testsquish/search?subject=Squishdotop=articles

Yep, sorry, this was a bug introduced in the move to ZCatalog.

The workaround is to append body= to the above URL.
There's also a patch in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives.

This will be fixed in 0.4.1 due on Monday once I get back from my holiday
:-)

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] Current date in DTML

2000-06-06 Thread Chris Withers

Ivan Raikov wrote:
 How can I get the current date  time (preferably as a
 DateTime.DateTime object) in DTML? I cannot instantiate a DateTime

dtml-var ZopeTime or dtml-var "_.DateTime()"

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Re: [Zope] zope:change strings on place

2000-06-06 Thread Chris Withers

Vincent Maton wrote:
 I receive : 2000-04-13

 I want  : 13-04-2000

dtml-var "_.DateTime(date)" fmt="%d-%m-%Y"

 or:  13 april 2000 (this one is better but ???)

dtml-var "_.DateTime(date)" fmt="%d %B %Y"

Try dtml-var "_.DateTime(date)" fmt="%x"

...as well

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[Zope] fmt weirdness

2000-06-06 Thread Chris Withers

dtml-var "_.DateTime()" fmt="%d %B %Y"

...works fine

dtml-var "_.DateTime()" fmt='%d %B %Y'

...barfs with a 'Document Template Parse Error':
Invalid attribute name, "%B", for tag dtml-var "_.DateTime()" fmt='%d
%B %Y', on line 5 of index_html

weird huh?

ideas anyone?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] A problem with image caching affecting certain versions of Netscapebrowsersbrowsers

2000-06-06 Thread Chris Withers

Paul Browning wrote:
 
 ZWN-2000-06-01 says:
 
 "Itamar Shtull-Trauring and Chris Withers tracked down a problem with
 image caching that affected certain versions of Netscape browsers."

http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1270/view

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] stupid question I guess

2000-06-07 Thread Chris Withers

josh on wrote:
 can I set a local variable in zope on a dtml page
 dtml-var variablename = 1

Yup:

dtml-call "REQUEST.set('variablename',1)"

Nice syntax, huh? ;-)

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Re: [Zope] How to catch URL in DTMLDocuments/Methods

2000-06-07 Thread Chris Withers

Evan Simpson wrote:
 3.  Use a SiteAccess Access Rule on the folder, having it check to see if
 the next object to be traversed is your DTMLMethod.  If so (and if the next
 name doesn't start with 'manage'!) remove the rest of the traversal path and
 store it in a REQUEST variable.  Not too bad, but SiteAccess is fragile (it
 doesn't work with Zope 2.2a).

I was going to implement this as a seperate PathHandler product for Zope
2.2 when the beta comes out.

someone has already sent me their alpha code for 2.1.x but it was
apparently unstable.

cheers,

Chris

PS: Evan is SiteAccess(or its replacement) going to ship as an
'official' product for Zope 2.2?

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Re: [Zope] WebObjects

2000-06-07 Thread Chris Withers

Michael Bernstein wrote:
 As I recall (from a WebObjects demonstartion I sat through a
 long time ago), WO creates the most godawful mangled URLs
 that I had ever seen. As a result, a WO site cannot be
 spidered by search engines, or converted to a static copy
 using wget.

Zope's not too hot on this either what with index_html instead of
index.html the problem of "is /something' a 'file' or a 'folder' from
wget's point of view?"

IIRC, it currently would download a zope folder object as a single file
:(

I've also been bitten by this in Wiki's since links aren't generated
with absolute_url and so I sometimes get
/MyWikiFolder/OneWikiPage/AnotherWikiPage which throws up a nasty
__getitem__ exception (particularly in Netscape, which seems to like
appending / onto the end of FrontPage in the URL box...)

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Newbie Question,

2000-06-07 Thread Chris Withers

CURTIS David wrote:
 I wish to use use the date of a database file in my dynamic html code.  For example, 
this database was last updated on 06/06/2000.  I suppose that there must be a dynamic 
html tag that zope uses.  What could it be?  I looked at all the documentation and 
have yet to discover it.  DTML-ZOPE-FILE-DATE  Any help is apprechiated.

dtml-var bobobase_modification_time

...obviously... :(

This will give you the time your current object was last modified.

Why has this not been renamed to something sensible?
We lost PrincipiaSearchSource a while back, I hope this goes the same
way ;-)

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Zope URLS (was re: WebObjects)

2000-06-08 Thread Chris Withers

Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
 Regarding wget:
 
 AFAICS, the problem is that traditionally in a static web server, if you try
 to access a URL like 'http://host/xyz' (without trailing slash), the server
 will return you an error '301 Moved permanently' and will point you to the
 new location 'http://host/xyz/'. Zope instead (if 'xyz' is a folder and
 there's a document 'xyz/index_html') immediately returns the rendered
 index_html if you request 'http://host/xyz'.
 
 Now whenever the 301 to the URL with a trailing slash happens, wget takes
 this as a hint that this path must have been a directory, and saves the
 result as index.html. With Zope, wget doesn't get this hint.
 
 Reading this again, I wonder if this qualifies as a bug in Zope, or is there
 a good reason for this behavior ?

It's not so much a bug as a complication caused by the fact that Zope
isn't a filesystem server, but an orb presented through the web (correct
me if I'm slightly out ;-)

For example http://host/x/y/z

Could be:
-A container object z (which should have a / after it?)
-A dtml-document in folder /x/y/
-The result of executing the z method on the y object in the /x/ folder.
-The result of executing the z method on the result of executing the y
method on the x object in the root folder.

I'm sure acquisition adds some more options/confusions to this... ;-)

So, that's the problem, I don't know what the solution is :(

I do think there must be a better way than Zope's kludgey BASE tag
thing.
Maybe all Zope URLs should end in a / ?

Quite radical, but maybe the most sensible and least confusing? :/

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Zope URLS

2000-06-08 Thread Chris Withers

Rik Hoekstra wrote:
 so what is the use of the /? Couldn't all Zope URLs end without a /?

I'm afraid this is the whole problem and it's caused by relative urls.

Say you're at http://host/x/y where y is a container that renders
index_html to be displayed, and in that index_html you haev a ref:

a href="b"b/a

Now what you mean by that is http://host/x/y/b but because there's no /
on the end, you actually get http://host/x/b

How Zope handles this is by sticking in that godawful base tag:
base href="http://hosy/x/y/"
which makes relative URLs work properly.

BUT, from what Gregor said earlier is a 'non-standard' way of doing it:
 traditionally in a static web server, if you try
 to access a URL like 'http://host/xyz' (without trailing slash), the server
 will return you an error '301 Moved permanently' and will point you to the
 new location 'http://host/xyz/

which is why I suggested all Zope URLs should end in / as all zope
objects can be containers in the 'traditional' sense.

Or we could just re-write HTTP to provide more useful information in the
first place ;-)

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Re: ZSQL Bug in 2.1.6 [patch]

2000-06-08 Thread Chris Withers

Phill,

The zope list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is great for this sort of question ;-)

Phill Hugo wrote:
 Sorry to bother you. I've a quick question regarding acqusition in ZSQL
 methods. When I pass args the method ignores the REQUEST stuff unless I
 specify it in the args list. Is there a way to pass one arg specifically
 while allowing the others to be seen in the aquired namespace?

So you're calling dtml-in "SQLMethod(parm='something')"?

If so, you want:
dtml-in "SQLMethod(_.None,_,parm='something')"

If you're doing that already, I can't help you, it's probably a bug :/

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Plea: sequence-item and sequence_item in 2.2?

2000-06-08 Thread Chris Withers

Tony McDonald wrote:
 Can I make a plea that the .diff patch that Jonothan Farr posted a
 while back be included into the 2.2 release?
 http://www.zope.org/Members/jfarr/Patches/dtml-in-sv

Pretty Please :-)

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Wrong mime type sent by Zope on every page

2000-06-08 Thread Chris Withers

Martijn Pieters wrote:
 You probably did a 'HEAD' request, at which point Zope doesn't render the
 page, but rather only acknowledges it's existence by returning above (bogus)
 response.

That's not very search engine friendly :(
The head should return the same type as the real document otherwise
what's the point of returning a head at all?!

I think this is in the collector already, but if it isn't, it should
be...

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Wrong mime type sent by Zope on every page

2000-06-08 Thread Chris Withers

Martijn Pieters wrote:
 But what if there are side effects to calling the document? What should
 happen? I don't want a counter to go up or anything just because a HEAD was
 called on the object.
 
 This is not as black-and-white and simple an issue.

The web is an imperfect medium, but returning a junk content type isn't
good.
I don't know the answer to the sideeffects thing, but I would come down
on the site of 'if you expose something through the web, you should
expect to have it spidered...' but that's cause I value search engine
hits a lot.

The trick would be to set the content type when the object is created
and have it stored in the object, not computed for each request.

Would a property suffice for that?

Then, say, if you knew your DTML method was going to return plain text,
you could set the content-type property to text/plain. Thsi could be
returned in the head without having to evaluate the object to return the
head, which is a bit innefficient.

I'm sure that's possible and better than it is now, but at the absolute
least the junk should cover the most likely outcome, ie text/html
instead of application/octet-stream, which is possibly the worst one I
can think to choose ;-)

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Wrong mime type sent by Zope on every page

2000-06-08 Thread Chris Withers

Brian Lloyd wrote:
 What if we change this to:
 
   if a 'content_type' attribute exists, it is used
 
   else if the object's id seems to have a file extension
   (. in the id), try to use guess_content_type
 
   else if there is a 'default_content_type' attribute, use that

It would be cool if this could be acquired :-)

 
   else fall back to the hated application/octet-stream
(or, I've seen x-unknown-content-type used before,
 but I don't know if this is really any better).
 
 Then we could put a 'default_content_type' attribute in the
 class of dtml documents and methods, which would take care of
 the most common case. Thoughts?

Looks great otherwise :-)

Chris

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[Zope] Guide to writing a Python Product for Zope?

2000-06-08 Thread Chris Withers

"Dan L. Pierson" wrote:
 Sounds pretty good.  Setting 'default_content_type' can then be
 another item in the unwritten Guide to Writing a Zope Product.

Well, hopefully this will actually get written sometime and we can all
stop scratching our heads everytime we want to know how to do something.

...that, or hacking it till it works and finding the thing we used was
being deprecated in the next point release... ;-)

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Announce: Squishdot 0.4.1 Released

2000-06-09 Thread Chris Withers

Squishdot 0.4.1 is now available from 
http://www.zope.org/Members/chrisw/Squishdot/

The following major changes were made:

 - You can now use things like 'site_header' and 'site_footer' in 
   'showMessage' and 'showError'.

 - Security has been tightened and a new set of roles introduced.

 - The bug requiring a 'body' parameter to be supplied to 'search' 
   has been fixed.

There are some other small changes and improvements.

If you run into problems, remember Squishdot has a mailing list at 
eGroups and a bug collector on SourceForge.

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] All ZSchedule archives on zope.org broken ! (Was: Re: [Zope] ZScheduler-0.0.5 problem)

2000-06-19 Thread Chris Withers

Holger Lehmann wrote:
 I attempted the same and had the same fate. *All* archives you try to donwload
 from http://www.zope.org/Members/lstaffor/ZScheduler are truncated (!) to 20480

There is a Wiki for ZScheduler which has a FAQ that covers this.
Apparently Loren's tar program puts a load of junk at the end. I think
the message is just a warning and the unarchiving has worked fine...

If anyone knows different, please say ;-)

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] scared

2000-06-20 Thread Chris Withers

josh on wrote:
 Would it be a bad idea to just install another copy of zope in a different
 directory?  Would that clash somehow?

Maybe, but not in any bad way, the worst I can see happenign is that
they try and get the same ports on your machine. Just run up one
instance at a tiem to make sure that doesn't happen (it shouldn't
anyway, but it never hurts to be paranoid)

You could also try copying the data.fs from the old install over the one
in the new install if you want to get your old data back, no reason why
it shouldn't work.

As for your error, it looks like something bad happened when zope tried
to write to the log file. Did you do any funny configuration fro your
logging? What version of Zope are you using?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Generating products that perform a smart clone of a master site?

2000-06-27 Thread Chris Withers

Hamish Lawson wrote:
 I envisaged turning a tutor's site into a product that could be
 instantiated.

Hi Hamish,

I'd suggest downloading the ZWikiWeb product from:
http://www.zope.org/Members/chrisw/ZWikiWeb

It does pretty much exactly what you're talking about. It's doesn't take
very long to knock up a product like this and I don't think I even used
ZClasses. My basis was the example stuff from the Zope Content Managers
Guide.

I'm guessing this is what you're trying to do. If you're looking into
using inheritence (so for example, your tutor changes his example, which
causes all the instances to be updated) then you'll need to use
ZClasses. I have vague memories of the Zope Developers Guide covering
this, if not, try BeeHive's ZClass guide.

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] Can't override standard_error_message on NotFound?

2000-06-27 Thread Chris Withers

"R. David Murray" wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, matt wrote:
  I'm having some problems with standard_error_message on 2.2.0b2.  According to the 
mailing list archives I should be able to override NotFound errors (I even 
cut-n-pasted http://www.zope.org/standard_error_message/view_source into my own 
standard_error_message in case I was missing something) but requesting a nonexistent 
object still gets me what appears to be a built-in page.

standard_error_message is also notoriously buggy in the way it handles
things unless you're using Zope 2.2. I have lost significant hair in
this area ;-)

 Usually this means your standard_error_message is throwing an exception,
 in which case Zope use the one hardcoded in the source.

The way to check this is to look at the error. If your error message is
throwing an exception, the origin of the error will be your error page.
If it's still showing the original Not Found error then you're suffering
from bugginess.

HTH,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] tree problem, addendum

2000-06-28 Thread Chris Withers

"Walter A. Aprile" wrote:
 It appears I have messed up the Id propery, but I do not know how.

If you could send the code for the Article class to the list, maybe
someone can spot what's going on...

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] ZPatterns: Deleting objects from a Rack?

2000-06-28 Thread Chris Withers

Scott Parish wrote:
 I'm not entirely clear how
 asking the object to delete itself in this case is going to improve the
 situation over just asking the rack to, but I think that was the intent.

Okay, I see the intent now too, but I agree with you that I can't see
what advantage asking the object to delete itself provides. Could
someone explain please?

Furthermore, even if there was an advantage to this, why can't the
rack's delete method just be piped through to the object's delete
method? (which I thought was common practice with Specialists)

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] ZPatterns: Deleting objects from a Rack?

2000-06-29 Thread Chris Withers

Bill Anderson wrote:
 What happens when the object is in multiple racks?
 (Assuming it is possible)

Then it'll be missing if something tries to get it from a rack. The same
thing as would happen if something tried to get it from a single rack
after it'd been deleted. So this case should be covered anywhere as it's
essentially 'what happens if an object that doesn't exist is requested
from a rack?'

That said, can you give em an example where it would eb useful to have
one object stored in multiple racks?

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] ZPatterns: Deleting objects from a Rack?

2000-06-29 Thread Chris Withers

Scott Parish wrote:
 Another thought i just had was that if you deleted by placing a call to the
 Rack, then you couldn't allow the class to override manage_delete.  You might
 want to do such (overriding) if you wanted it to clean up a catalog or perform
 some other auxiliary function before disappearing.

What class are you talking about? ;-)

This is why I said it might be useful for the rack's delete just to call
delete on the object. I think this is me going on about the demeter's
Law thing again...

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Re: Zope won't let me call aq_parent in ZWiki?

2000-06-29 Thread Chris Withers

Hi Curtis,

Sorry for the late reply, I've been on holiday :S

Curtis Matthews wrote:
 
 I've just recently noticed I'm not able to call the JumpSearch and
 RecentChanges methods in the Basic ZWiki because I'm not authorized to call
 a method called aq_parent. Has anyone else had this problem, and is there a
 solution?

This is a 'feature' of ZWiki according to Simon Michael, it's author, I
think it's a bug ;-)

Basically, ZWiki Pages (RecentChanges is a ZWiki Page) execute DTML
contained in themselves with the 'Anonymous' role, supposedly as a
security precaution.
This means that 'Anonymous' must have the 'Access Contents Information'
permission for RecentChanges and several other things to work.

This makes it practically impossible to have a Wiki that is secure :/

This is a hard problem to solve, see Jim Fulton's server side trojan
stuff for a detailed discussion. I don't like the current solution, it's
confusing.
A better, but not best ;-), solution would be to make ZWiki pages
execute with any proxy roles they have and only those roles, or even
have a seperate 'This Wiki Page has these roles' configuration box.

A workaround would be to make RecentChanges a DTML method rather than a
ZWiki page. You should just be able to copy and paste the contents.

HTH,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Passing Parameter without ?

2000-06-29 Thread Chris Withers

saif wrote:
 eg:- www.localhost.com/para1/para2

I'm planning a product for Zope 2.2 that will do just this sort of
thing...

If you can bear with me, it might well be worth the wait :-)

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] ZCatalog Search Q

2000-06-30 Thread Chris Withers

Leonard Chan wrote:
 I'd like to include some attributes from the actual objects
 (maybe by accessing the actual object via id, etc?) in the
 result list.

You can get the actual object with:

Catalog.getobject(data_record_id_) inside your dtml-in loop.

This is supposedly a 'bad' thing to do but there's nothing better right
now...

  I can of course include those attributes in the catalogue meta table so they  would 
be returned with the search results, but I don't really
 want to do that unless there is no other way.

Well, it might be the best way. Why?

...because otherwise you have to load up the whole object to get the
attributes you want. If there's only a few attributes like this, which
are small anyway, and your objects are large, then your wastign a load
of RAM you don't need to be.

HTH,

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Alternative Rendering (was Re: [Zope] Messing with the namespaces stack)

2000-06-30 Thread Chris Withers

Jim Hebert wrote:
 Uh oh, careful, I'm encouragable and you'll really have a monster on your
 hands. ;-)

ego stroke
I like the way you think, lots of good will come of it.. ;-)
/ego stroke

 I am bucking a trend, I am starting to realize. Big time! The assumption
 seems to be that any given page will build itself, it will suck in
 standard_html_header and standard_html_footer, and compose itself of
 whatever else in between those things. DTML Document is the base unit of a
 page.

I think it's a trend worth bucking, as you point out, this trend can be
out of line with the whole acquisition - inheritence objecty thing that
Zope does so well...

 front end for our system, I wanted people to be able to upload simple,
 stupid chunks of "content" html and not have to do things like put
 dtml-var standard_html_header at the top and ..._footer at the bottom.
 Any lame wysiwyg editor that had save-to-ftp could then push up a 'body
 file' into the right folder, and I could get writers writing without
 learning zope.

Totally agree with this :-)))

[snip excellent possible solution]

 And, I can also come up with different renderers, I suppose. Untested
 might be the idea that I could put /alt_renderer as a DTML Method at the
 top level, then visit /about/alt_renderer and invoke that method in the
 /about context. So by separating content from presentation, I can plug my
 content into lots of things simultaneously. Presumably.

This would be really useful for things like WAP and AvantGo...

[snip sucky products]

Well, you either have to re-develop the products or live with them :/

 I don't honestly expect that what I invented in the middle of the night 7
 days before the VistaSource launch to revolutionize how everyone builds
 pages 

With any luck, you may be surprised ;-)

 perhaps someone will have suggestions on how I can make my style "play
 nicer" with all these products, too.

I have a slightly different take on the problem from back when I used to
use mason. Autohandlers solve parts of this...

An autohandler is a bit of code which would get executed during URL
traversal. it's main use is to render a wrapper around a page, for
example:

...do stuff...
process and render the rest of the URL (called mc_auto_next in Mason)
...do mroe stuff...

So your standard_ stuff apears in the autohandler and is _automatically_
wrapped around the eventual object.

How far would this go to doing what you were talking about?

Not far enough might be the answer... I'm really interested in the stuff
you talked about so please email more of it to me directly if you don't
think it's list-related enough

hope to hear from you soon,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] ZCatalog Search Q

2000-06-30 Thread Chris Withers

Leonard Chan wrote:
  This is supposedly a 'bad' thing to do but there's nothing better right now...
 
 Why is this a 'bad' thing?  'Cause it requires loading the whole object?

Nope, 'cos it doesn't work with anything that plays with traversal, like
SiteAccess. Something better should be coming along in Zope 2.2 but it
probably won't be documented until Zope 3 :(

 Yes. Our situation is like this.  We have a bunch of objects (ZClass) in
 various folders, and we would like to provide a dynamic search facility
 for the users (in addition to traversing folders and sub-folders, which
 is not a problem).
 
 The object has a description field, which is a few lines of text (there
 is a long description field, which varies from zero length to up to 10
 times the size of the desc).
 
 We need to display the description field (but not the long desc) on the
 search results, so to implement this, we can either stick the desc in
 the catalog meta-table, or use getobject as you suggested to retrieve
 the object (and hence the required attributes).
 
 Initially, I'm a bit worried about sticking the desc in the meta-table
 'cause it's relatively big compared to the other attributes.  Maybe it's
 still cheaper than getting the object (which includes the much bigger
 long desc field) every time?  Seen similar situation before?  Any help
 is appreciated.

Well, given that it's going to be easier and cleaner for you to put it
in the metadata table I'd d othat. I can really see any problems with
this.

I'm sure someone else on the list will comment if they know better...

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] SQL method: Trying to be too clever?

2000-06-30 Thread Chris Withers

Andy,

An error message / traceback would be useful ;-)

Rik Hoekstra wrote:
 insert into related (rootstory, dtml-sqlvar field)
 
 in that case you just want a dtml-var field (you not passing it as sql
 query values)

Nope, the dtml-sqlvar field is for quoting use in SQL statements,
kindof like dtml-var field sql_quote which I think may be even be
correct syntax...

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Every user should have the Anonymous role everywhere (was :Re: [Zope]Authentication, Anonymous and Public)Authentication, Anonymous and Public)

2000-07-01 Thread Chris Withers

Dieter Maurer wrote:
 In Zope, each user has a set of roles.
 Any user has the "Anonymous" role. Log-in users may have
 additional roles.

I'm not convinced this is true...

Quoting from the LoginManager CHANGES.TXT file:
 Generic User Source, like the GenericUserFolder product it was inspired by,
 gave all users the Anonymous role. This seems to be incorrect according to 
 what other user folders do, including the standard Zope version, so GUS now 
 no longer does this.

...which is why Alan experiences this problem. I've also run into it
just using a normal acl_users folder and I've been mentioning every few
months since I bumped into it back in March. Here's my opriginal post:

http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/dev-archive.nsf/ByKey/82AE22A20C7E88AE

I wish this could get sorted out as it makes security a nightmare unless
you use a web of local roles, which is painful and messy to maintain.

Is there any reason why every user shouldn't have the anonymous role for
every accessible page/object/thing visitable through a protocol?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Re: Every user should have the Anonymous role everywhere (was :Re: [Zope] Authentication, Anonymous and Public)

2000-07-03 Thread Chris Withers

Dieter Maurer wrote:
In Zope, each user has a set of roles.
Any user has the "Anonymous" role. Log-in users may have
additional roles.
  
   I'm not convinced this is true...

 The Content Manager Guide (Security, Authorization) states it
 this way:
 
   The "Anonymous" role, which all users have implicitly, 

...and check out the last time the Content Manager's Guide was updated
;-)

Seriously, though, I think this SHOULD be true, although I'm pretty sure
it isn't.

 This is natural, too.
 Why should a registered user have
 less authorization than an anonymous one.

Or, to put it another way, just because an acl_users folder doesn't know
anything about a user, why should that user not have the anonymous role?

 Thus, two reasons to change the Zope authorization, such
 that each user has implicitely the "Anonymous" role,
 if this is not the case now.

I totally agree :-)

Chris

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[Zope] Comments on 2.2 Help System

2000-07-03 Thread Chris Withers

Apart from the 'Wow! Zope has Help!' comment:

The API documentation is very useful. 
How do we feedback about it? (eg: why is there PropertySheet and
PropertySheets?)
When will it be complete?
How do we submit docs to appear in it? What is the moderation process
like?

Sadly, the rest of the 'Zope Help' section needs a lot more structure to
be useful. At the moment, the names don't even fit in their browser pane
:(
Perhaps something along the lines of the portal structure on
zdp.zope.org would be useful for categorising these documents?

If these are the 'help screens' you get when you click the help button,
maybe they shouldn't be listed here at all?
I have to say, I think the M$ help system on Windows might be a better
model:

1. A Contents Page - kindof like the zdp portal listing, or a contents
section of a book.

2. An index page - A list of all the documents in the help system, which
seems to be largely what the 'contents' tab is now.

3. Search - which needs to be explained better than it is. Can boolean
searching be used? Do I need to quote things? How do I search for
dtml-in?
(Maybe a help screen would be useful ;-)

Maybe there should be links to the Contents Page as well as help on your
current location from in the management interface?

Finally, you should make it clear elsewhere that /HelpSys on your site
will go to the Zope help system. Maybe this needs to be blockable, after
all, why should www.mysite.com/HelpSys give the Zope help system, when I
might want it to be my company's help system for their products?

Which suggests that maybe the help system should be a separate product
from Zope, running on its own server. For example, take a company which
has LOTS of zope servers. The sysadmin would prefer to maintain one
up-to-date copy of the Zope docs on a 'documentation server' which has
documentation for all the Zope versions in use, rather than wastefully
running the same number of documentation servers as there are Zope
instances...

...heaven forbid, DC could actually run a master one of these at
doc.zope.org which would be the most complete and up to date...

Views?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Authentication, Anonymous and Public

2000-07-04 Thread Chris Withers

Dieter Maurer wrote:
 A user that does not log in, i.e. a user you know nothing of,
 gets the "Anonymous" role automatically (at least with "acl_users").
 A logged in user may not get the "Anonymous" role.
 
 This does not provide additional security, because this
 user may simply shut down his browser and access the page again
 as anonymous user.
 On the other hand, it may result in surprises: suddenly (after
 a log on) I can no longer do things that I was able to do
 before the log on.
 
 I think, this should be changed.

I agree, and I've said so, many times before ;-)

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Re: Every user should have the Anonymous role everywhere(was :Re: [Zope] Authentication, Anonymous and Public)

2000-07-05 Thread Chris Withers

Stuart Bishop wrote:
 or in BasicUserFolder. Either way it should go in the collector. 

Issue 1391, or in a slightly different phrasing, Issue 467

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] the dtml-calendar

2000-07-05 Thread Chris Withers

 I'm downloaded the dtml-calendar with the tar.qz.  My unzip asks me what to change 
the qz to before it will unzip, and i dont know what to change it to.  i tried .doc, 
.zexp, and left it blank.  if u know what it is, tell me.

Try .tar.gz

That should make WinZip happy ;-)

Chris

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Re: [Zope] SquishDot properties

2000-07-06 Thread Chris Withers

tom smith wrote:
 I'd like to add a URL property to a Squishdot article (and remove the "dept"
 property), is this possible and how would I do it?

The 'proper' response would be 'no'.

The hacky response is, just store the URL in the 'dept' property ;-)
Adjust your forms slightly (so they say URL instead of dept but make
sure the form field is still named 'dept').

Nice huh? ;-)

(I was going to do something similar(ly nasty ;-) to use the file
attachment feature to store an image that was rendered when you viewed
the posting ;-)

 Also, can I auto-complete the "from" field with the users' username that
 they have logged in withthis is for an intranet

What have they logged in with? Squishdot should 'remember' the name and
email address after they're typed it in once, which maybe helpful since
I get a feeling what you're asking about may not be possible :(

cheers,

Chris

PS: Squishdot has it's own mailing list as well: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Zope] Re: [squishdot] Re: Squishdot giving error DateTimeError?newbie

2000-07-07 Thread Chris Withers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am on zope 2.1.6
 In some post i saw that timezone can be changed. My timezone is India
 GMT+530. I was looking through the DateTime.py code where the
 timezones are listed.
   it is now giving Error:DateTimeError
ErrorValue:UnrecognisedTimeZone

This looks like a DateTime.py problem, not a Squishdot problem.
I'm going to chuck this in the collector in hope of a response sicne I'm
sure this isn't the first time someone has reported this problem.

 I donot know python, can we add my timezone to the list given.

That may be what needs doing, but probably as a source change...

 otherwise how do i change my system settings for a timezone which is
 compatible with squishdot.

I do GMT, and haven't had any problems, but that's not going to be
useful for you as anything but a stop-gap measure.

 I am being very let down, i very much wanted it to run, as this was
 the product which pulled me out of perl and got me into zope :-(

Don't worry, it'll get fixed soon, such is the joy of Open Source :-)

 can we run cron after midnight which opens a new instance of Squishdot
 and copies all the postings to this new Squish site.

You could, but that would be a seriously oversized sledgehammer for what
is probably a very small nut...

 Please help me out, otherwise i will have to go back to perl.

I wouldn't worry about that either, Perl is coming to Zope some time
soon...

good luck,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] strange catalog problem

2000-07-08 Thread Chris Withers

Hi Ed,

What version of Zope are you using? If it's 2.1.6 or earlier, have you
patched ZCatalog? IIRC, it's slightly broken and causes exactly the same
kind of problems as this...

http://www.zope.org/Members/chrisw/Squishdot has a link to the fix for
this problem on it (somewhere ;-)

cheers,

Chris

PS:
 'Downtempo', 'Hardcore', 'Hip-Hop', 'House', 'Jungle', 'Techno', 'Trance')

With your taste in music, you should check out http://www.bay-c.co.uk
I'm always looking for people to write articles and comment on the ones
that are there :-)

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Re: [Zope] Newbie questions: Job_board Howto, ZCatalog, Squishdot

2000-07-10 Thread Chris Withers

Meeting Maker Webmaster wrote:
 One last question ;-) I've seen in this mailing list that Squishdot will
 not work with Zope 2.2.0 until version 0.4.4... when is this version
 planed? I've tried to install Squisdot on the Zope 2.2.0b3 server and I get
 the same problem as with my "Job_Board" test... will one solution solve the
 other?

0.4.4 will land in a couple of weeks hopefully.

One solution may well solve both problems, if you find it, please tell
me ;-)

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Rendering Folderish ZClass Object

2000-07-10 Thread Chris Withers

Hi,

I have a ZClass based on Folder. Contained within this is a DTML Method,
index_html. This is mapped to the 'View' view and renders the
appropriate object contained in itself depending on soem logic.

All, is well if I access the object through a URL, the page is rendered
as expected.
However, if I access the object with the following code:
dtml-var testObject

All I get is:
MyClass instance at 8717b90

Why is this? Why does the normal rendering not take place?

cheers,

Chris

PS: I notice that a normal folder object will behave identically, so the
ZClass bti is probably irrelevent.

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[Zope] DTML?

2000-07-10 Thread Chris Withers

Brian Lloyd wrote:
snip id is sometimes a method (not always though ;-)
 This is one of the things on my List Of Evil Things that
 should be changed one day in Zope3K :)

RANT type="angry,frustrated"

How about the nasty hacky mess that is DTML?

Some priceless artifacts that need to go:

dtml-var "someMethod(_, _.None, myparam)"
dtml-call "REQUEST.set('keyname','value')"
dtml-let x="'hello out there'"
dtml-var "_[REQUEST['myDoc']]"What is this supposed to do?!
dtml-var "PARENTS[-1].folder.getitem(_.getitem('id',1))"

Not to mention the horribleness that is dtml-in and dtml-with.

There's dtml-tree too, but hopefully I'm going to land very hard on that
tomorrow and beat it into something like a decent shape ;-)

While I'm at it, how about some docs for the manage_* methods in the
interfaces Wiki?

/RANT

Okay, seriously, DTML is really hurting Zope's chances with a lot of
people/companies. DTML should be easier than, say, creating a Form in
Lotus Notes or writing a component in Mason. That requries, IMHO:
1. Clear definition of when it should be used.
2. A clean, concise syntax (like Python, DTML is more like Perl right
now ;-)
3. Good documentation (much easier to do if 1 and 2 are met...)

I also think having Python Methods ship with Zope would really help...

There are niggles (like the rediculous id problem) which you can live
with, but doing anything other than the really mundane in DTML means
extreme hair loss right now, which is not good.

I wonder how many other people would agree with me: nevermind ZEO, or
the PTK, ZPatterns or any new fancy functionality. Can we at least have
a decent template language that doesn't confuse the hell out of newbies
and oldbies alike...

cheers,

Chris

(Who just spent 1/2 hour figuring out how to do a multi-language site in
Zope, and now after 6hrs of trying has given up doing a recursive tree
copy to get the old site into the new structure with a DTML method or
two and is resorting to ugly hacky external methods because Python
Methods arent' around/stable)

PS: Zope: yes it makes the hard things very easy, but it makes the easy
things very hard, so it all balances out nicely... ;-)

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Re: [Zope] ZWiki/Structured Text formatting surprise

2000-07-10 Thread Chris Withers

Jim Fulton wrote:
 I suggest that, since this appeared in a code snippit to begin
 with, it should have been written as:
 
   blah blah '(_.None,_,foo)' blah blah

I don't format my code like that ;-)

 Note that the StructuredText underlining feature is
 widely considered a missfeature and probably won't be supported
 in StructuredTextNG.

Hmm, it could be useful though...

  I'd prefer to see a generic way of escaping structured text formatting.
 
  Maybe this is something for StructuredTextNG?
 
 Maybe. I'd really prefer that this not be necessary.

I think escapign is always going to be necessary for something like
this... ;-)

 If you do, please suggest an escaping syntax. Please
 think hard to come up with an escaping syntax that I don't hate. ;)

How about extending ! beyond just escaping WikiNames?
! escapes structured text if it directly precedes a formatting
character.
!! actually puts a ! if it does indeed need to proceed a formatting
character.

cheers,

Chris

PS: Off to the wiki now ;-)

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Re: [Zope] DTML?

2000-07-10 Thread Chris Withers

Shane Hathaway wrote:
 The idea of making an XML compliant DTML has been tossed around
 before.  It would remove the difference between dtml-var x and
 dtml-var "x", since XML allows neither syntax. :-)

I'm not too hot on XML compliancy, but if it makes the problems I
mentioned go away, then great :-)

  3. Good documentation (much easier to do if 1 and 2 are met...)
 
 How about a "namespace inspector"?  It could provide an easy way to
 find out what methods are available and the what the calling
 conventions are (since it would interface with the help system), and it
 could be automatically invoked when exceptions occur (under certain
 conditions), making it a Zope debugging tool.

Sounds interesting but it's never going to beat a decent paper reference
with examples...

 I'm working on enhancing Python Methods right now.  I'm close to
 getting them properly interfaced with DTML namespaces, so that DTML can
 invoke Python Methods using simpler DTML syntax.

Hmmm, how about just sorting out the problems: dtml-var and dtml-call

dtml-var "x(_,_.None,arg1=x,arg2='y',arg3=3)" html_quote

should really be:

dtml-var x arg1=x arg2='y' arg3=3 html_quote

...IMNSHO ;-)

 A curious paradox: newbies need it to be easier, but experienced users
 need consistency.

I don't see a paradox, these two are both solved by sorting out the same
problems.

 It doesn't confuse Jim! ;-)

dtml-call "REQUEST.set('id','answer1')"
dtml-if "_[_[id]]=='funny'"
So lobotomize Jim, then he'll know what it's like for the rest of us! :P
dtml-else
Yes, but if Jim is the only person who understands it, then no-one else
will be able to use it, DC will have no customers and we'll all be
building sites using CORBA, beans and otehr 'things'
/dtml-if

Thanks for the comments though, Ethan metnioned this as a project for
dev.zope.org. I'm really up for that, would you be able to help out?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] MessageDialog

2000-07-11 Thread Chris Withers

Andy McKay wrote:
 The MessageDialog is cool, but a little sparse, has anyone tried overriding
 it with their own or fiddling with it? Im looking at including standard
 header and footer in it and not gotten very far.

Butch did this in Squishdot, one of the changes I made for 0.4.1 was to
let headers adn footers be included, here's the code from Squishdot.py:

return self.showError(self, REQUEST=REQUEST,
  ^
   important bits
  title='Data Missing', 
  message=message, 
  action=REQUEST['URL1']+'/previewPosting' 
  ) 

showError is a DTML method contained in the Squishdot folderish
object...

HTH,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] HEELLPP - Please !!!

2000-07-11 Thread Chris Withers

Daniel Rusch wrote:
 
  I think this line:
 
  where users.user_login=dtml-sqlvar name=login type=string
 
 Should be:
 where users.user_login=dtml-sqlvar login type=string  --- no name=

I'm sure that shouldn't make a difference

Is this another example of DTML being sucky? ;-)

Chris

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Re: [Zope] DTML?

2000-07-11 Thread Chris Withers

Tino Wildenhain wrote:
 I want that too. When we are over it, how about replacing (or at least
 aliasing)
 these - variables to _ ? sequence-item, sequence-index etc. comes to
 mind.

Yes indeed! :-)

IF you've got a patch that will do this, please mail it to me and stick
it in the collector...

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] MessageDialog

2000-07-11 Thread Chris Withers

Andy McKay wrote:
 
 A thanks Chris. I had noticed that and was trying to see if I could do
 without using REQUEST. I couldnt so I went and changed all the calls to my
 class *sigh*. Thanks mate.

Sadly REQUEST and the client are always necessary.

If you want to call your MessageDialog from anywhere in DTML as well as
from python you'll need that pretty old favourite:

dtml-var "MessageDialog(_,_.None, ...your args...)"

:(

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Fetching data from external methods

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Withers

Jarkko Veijalainen wrote:
 in fact only problem here is how i return values from external
 method like obj.value1 , obj.value2 into zope and use them in
 dtml or/and in Zclass instances.

in external method:

return (obj1, obj2,)

in DTML:

dtml-in external_method(your,params)
  dtml-var value1
  dtml-var value2
/dtml-in

If you are submitting to your external method from an HTML form, you
will need to return the HTML to be displayed:

def my_external_method(self,param1,param2):
...do stuff...
string = 'HTMLBODY'
string = string + ...render your results here...
string = string + '/BODY/HTML'
return string

HTH,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Fetching data from external methods

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Withers

Jarkko Veijalainen wrote:
 My method outputs are:
 
 res = (contains search result using forms input values)
 sn = res.sn (one of the values in res-object)
 return sn
  ^
  that should be 'return res'

...then the following will work:

 dtml-in "LDAPsearch('66','*',REQUEST)"
 dtml-var sn
 /dtml-in

 this works
 dtml-var "LDAPsearch('66','*',REQUEST)"

...because that displays sn, which is what you're returning!

 1) how i can input values in LDAPsearch(how i input here)

Don't understand what you want here...

 2) i don't have any control of return value, it returns list like
 this
 ('Ukko', '66', 'oEmail')

you should be able to dtml-in over whatever is returning that...

Chris

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Re: [Zope] catalog.getpath --search results as links

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Withers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Replace it with this:
 tr
  a href="!--#var
 "catalog.getpath(data_record_id_)"--"
   !--#var title--
  /a
 /tr

What is the id of your catalog object?

replace 'catalog' with that id. I'm guessing you should have 'Catalog'
instead ;-)

HTH,

Chris

PS: Change to using the dtml-  syntax instead of !--# --, it has
been deprecated, I think...

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[Zope] Zope Resources ;-)

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Withers

Jonathan Desp wrote:
 How I can make a regular backup ?

make a copy of data.fs _before_ it gets corrupted.

 How I can restore it ? 

copy your backed up data.fs over your corrupted data.fs

 it's 100% corrupted.

I doubt that very much.

  Do you have any tools for analyse a data.fs ? (not tranalyser)

Why not tranalyser?
What about lib/python/ZODB/fsrecover.py which Jim Fulton recommended?

  If I don't fint out why my data.fs is corrupted, I'll lost one week of
 work
  for my company.

No skin off our noses... a lot of people have tried to help on this _for
free_ but you don't seem prepared to do much work for yourself.

Your data.fs is corrupted. That sux. Sorry. It doesn't happen often so
it'll probably be a bitch to fix, maybe you should just re-import your
900 files into a new data.fs on a fresh install of Zope?
Maybe take Jim Fulton up on his offer to look at the data.fs?

You might also like to read the Zope manuals:
http://www.zope.org/Documentation

It may be old and a bit out fo date but it'll give you a good idea of a
lto of Zope stuff.

Also search on Zope.org. There's good How-To's on recovering corrupted
data.fs's...

There's also mailing list archives at:
http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists.html

Search there and you'll find answers to most questions you've asked:
-LoadSite
-How to make a backup and restore it
-more on Tranilyser and the like

Please try these first, the mailing list should be a last resort (and
yes, I know I sometimes don't use it as such ;-)

cheers,

Chris

PS: Apologies to the list for the flame, maybe I shouldn't write email
at midnight ;-)

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Re: [Zope] catalog.getpath --search results as links

2000-07-12 Thread Chris Withers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 my catalog ID is full_site, but I already tried this and got another
 error.  

What was this error? (please include the full traceback..)

 When I leave out the link syntax changes, I get the search
 results (w/o them as active links)...so the catalog term must be
 right.

Not necessarly...

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] how to check if the ResultSet is null?

2000-07-13 Thread Chris Withers

You could always do something like this first:
"select Count(usr_email) from info(table name) where usr_email =
dtml-sqlvar usr_email type=string" 
Then check the result will be either 1 or 0.

That's asking for trouble 'cos Zope ain't gonna like an id such as
'Count(usr_email)', it's a great idea though :-)

Here's how you might need to rephrase it to make Zope happy:
"select Count(usr_email) as usremail from info(table name) where
usr_email = dtml-sqlvar usr_email type=string"

HTH,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] simple instructions for site search

2000-07-13 Thread Chris Withers

ethan mindlace fremen wrote:
 You want the ZCatalog Howto:
 
 http://www.zope.org/Documentation/How-To/ZCatalogTutorial

Do catalogs search otehr catalogs they find?

Only asking 'cos I don't think that'll help him search his whole site as
the Squishdot postings won't get searched. But, if the above is true,
then it should be okay since Squishdot is now subclassed from ZCatalog
:-)

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Collector Product?

2000-07-13 Thread Chris Withers

You check out the Tracker, the replacement for the Collector, rom the
CVS...

cheers,

Chris

Satheesh Babu wrote:
 
 DC folks,
 
 Any plans of making the Collector (bugs/requests etc)
 as a downloadable product?
 
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Re: [Zope] Hot fix and 2.20

2000-07-15 Thread Chris Withers

I think so...

Chris

michael montagne wrote:
 
 Do I have this right?  I do not have to install the hot fix if I just
 installed the recently released version 2.2.0 final.  correct?
 
 -mjm
 
   
   Name: winmail.dat
winmail.datType: application/x-unknown-content-type-dat_auto_file
   Encoding: base64

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Re: [Zope] Cannot install PTK

2000-07-15 Thread Chris Withers

Mario Premke wrote:
 I installed Zope2.2.0 and downloaded PTK0.7.1,
 installed it, restarted Zope and then tried to import

I think the 0.7.1 snapshot release is a little out of date ;-)

Check the latest version out of the CVS or try Kevin Dangoor's much more
recent snapshot:
http://www.zope.org/Members/taz/PTK

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] sending namespace to the frames?

2000-07-15 Thread Chris Withers

danchik wrote:
 
 if I submit a form to some page that has frames, how do I pass the
 REQUEST namespace to those frames

You can't, I think you need to look into the way frames work more
carefully or word your question differently.

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as it may irritate the large number of people who are subscribed to both
;-)

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] ZStylesheet

2000-07-16 Thread Chris Withers

Neil Burnett wrote:
 Well, I am going to give up with CSS. I am sure ZStylesheet is a fine
 product, its just that CSS implementations lets it down.

I find the following page really useful:
http://webreview.com/wr/pub/guides/style/mastergrid.html

It lists exactly what does and doesn't work in CSS on all the major
browsers.

Of course Luis made a very valid point, validate your HTML first before
you worry about CSS. I find Dreamweaver 3's checks for browser
compatability quite useful here as well.

Of course, nothing beats plain checking all your pages on loads of
different browsers ;-)

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Re: Zope 2.2.0 Startup

2000-07-16 Thread Chris Withers

Indra Gunawan wrote:
 I've just install Zope 2.2.0 from 2.1.6 but when I run the start.bat it
 seems the startup process took a very2 long time compared to the usual, is
 it normal?

I don't know...

Maybe the patch to the port checking algorithm never made it into the
2.2 code:
http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1260/view

Anyway, this sort of question is probably better asked to the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list...

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Off Topic... ;-)

2000-07-16 Thread Chris Withers

I saw this in someone's sig. and thought of Zope:

 "The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know,
 and the more I realize I don't know, the more I want to learn."
 --Einstein

;-)

Chris

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Re: [Zope] MetaPublisher DB - was linuxworld article

2000-07-16 Thread Chris Withers

Mark Pratt wrote:
  Sorry if that's a dumb question ;-)
 
 no, it`s not a dumb question. MetaPublisher is open source.

Written in Zope?

Where can I find out more?

cheers,

Chris

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[Zope] Re: Folderish objects and that BASE tag...

2000-07-17 Thread Chris Withers

Oleg Broytmann wrote:
Documents/Methods aren't, m? 

Yes they are...

http://site/com/folder/object may now look like a folder to you, but
what if you want to excecute a method on a folder? It becomes:

http://site/com/folder/object/method

So, in effect, object should be treated as a 'folderish' thing from a
web-y point of view :S

 And I certainly don't want trailing slash
 on url like http://my.zope/site/file.html :)

Why not? It'd then get the default file for:
http://my.zope/site/file.html/

Which would return the contents of file.html anyway...

Not very well explained but I don't think I'm missign anything...

cheers,

Chris

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