Re: [Zope-dev] cAccessControl.so Zope 2.12.7

2010-07-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Christopher Warner cwar...@kernelcode.com wrote: Unfortunately in the above specific case I'm building against a standalone Plone instance which ships only with a static lib version of Python 2.6. So this doesn't work. This became an issue with Plone 4.0b5 as

Re: [Zope-dev] Class advisors in Python 3

2010-07-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: ZTK 1.1 deprecates Python 2.4 *and* 2.5. So, 2010-12-31 is the last day for their official support. Who told you that? We documented our decision at

Re: [Zope-dev] unit test policy questions

2010-07-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:57 PM, yuppie y.2...@wcm-solutions.de wrote: If everybody is using this, nobody is using CMF.buildout for development. Anyway. I fixed CMF.buildout: http://svn.zope.org/?rev=115204view=rev I'm using CMF.buildout and was always annoyed by it overriding the -m option.

Re: [Zope-dev] unit test policy questions

2010-07-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: I don't believe that zope.testing's testrunner works without 'def test_suite()'. Oh it does. Ever since 3.8.0 from mid 2009: - Testrunner automatically picks up descendants of unittest.TestCase in test modules, so you

Re: [Zope-dev] zopectl's -p options

2010-07-26 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: ...is currently useless, as far as I can see. I thought the -p option was an artifact of zdaemon, which zopectl just didn't support. I took it as a case of the lower level API's leaking through. I think the attached

Re: [Zope-dev] Should we merge collective.xmltestreport into zope.testrunner?

2010-07-25 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: A while back, I wrote collective.xmltestreport [1,2]. In short, it's a wrapper around zope.testing's test runner that can produce output in an XML format compatible with the xUnit family of testing tools. This is

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 2.7 buildbot reports

2010-07-24 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: Considering recent discussions on Python 2.7 support, should we disable the failure reports for Python 2.7?  (6 failures out of 17 in the last report) I think we can let them stay, even though they test something

Re: [Zope-dev] ./bin/test failing with trunk zope.testing

2010-07-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Jonathan Lange j...@mumak.net wrote: When running zope.testing's tests on my laptop, I get many failures. I've run the tests plenty of times before and haven't got these failures. Am a bit mystified, so I'd appreciate any help. Looks like the tests assume

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.9 broke ZMySQLDA in the middle of a stable release series

2010-07-15 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leoroch...@gmail.com wrote: The attached patch adds such a warning, and also reveals where Zope2 commits the same sins. If there are no objections I'll commit it to 2.12 and trunk. Thanks for committing it. Finally, I'd like to ask

[Zope-dev] New releases of Zope2 (incl. a potential security fix)

2010-07-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. I released Zope 2.12.9 and Zope 2.13.0a2 today. Both contain a fix for the missing browser:view permission support (https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/578326). As this might affect security of your applications, you are advised to upgrade. Zope 2 itself is not vulnerable. Thanks goes to

[Zope-dev] Can ZTK 1.0 support Python 2.7?

2010-07-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. We have Python 2.7 final now and some work has begun on making ZTK packages compatible with it. Currently we still see various test failures in the zopeapp set though and nobody who steps up to fix them. Apart from that, we have made a promise to support Python 2.4 up to 2.6 for the ZTK 1.0

Re: [Zope-dev] Can ZTK 1.0 support Python 2.7?

2010-07-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: On Tuesday, July 13, 2010, Hanno Schlichting wrote: What do others think about this? Based on what you wrote, I think this is the right solution. Python 2.4 is clearly important to the Zope 2 / Plone world

Re: [Zope-dev] New releases of Zope2 (incl. a potential security fix)

2010-07-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: On Tuesday, July 13, 2010, Hanno Schlichting wrote: In other news Zope 2.13.0a2 now officially supports Python 2.7. How can Zope 2.13 support Python 2.7, when the ZTK 1.0 does not? Zope 2.13 only uses

Re: [Zope-dev] Can ZTK 1.0 support Python 2.7?

2010-07-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: what's the time frame for ZTK 1.0? I put that info into the post scriptum of my mail. Have I missed a mail with more failures? I would have thought getting those tests to pass for a release is a reasonable

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.9 broke ZMySQLDA in the middle of a stable release series

2010-07-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leoroch...@gmail.com wrote: The latest Zope 2.12.9 release broke the last release of Products.ZMySQLDA. You are not by any chance interested in taking over maintenance of ZSQLMethods, are you? You'll get the following traceback:

Re: [Zope-dev] Can ZTK 1.0 support Python 2.7?

2010-07-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Given all of these, I'm leaning towards not supporting Python 2.7 for a ZTK 1.0 release. A 1.1 can drop Python 2.4 support and we can try to support 2.7 in addition. We discussed this in todays zope-dev IRC meeting

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.9 broke ZMySQLDA in the middle of a stable release series

2010-07-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leoroch...@gmail.com wrote: And I'm not disagreeing with the policy, but it can be argued that depending on the location of *data* files inside the Zope2 package is not necessarily relying on guarantees on internals. I'd call anything

Re: [Zope-dev] Changelog of differences between ztk 1.0a1 and 1.0a2?

2010-07-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Michael Howitz m...@gocept.com wrote: is there a change log showing the differences between versions 1.0a1 and the lately released 1.0a2 of the ztk? There's no changelog yet. Diff'ing the files from the tags is the best you get right now. We are planning to

Re: [Zope-dev] [zope2] Help needed with security checks and add views

2010-07-10 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Fixed in r114488 (2.12 branch) and r114490 (trunk). I don't think I'm allowed to close the issue on Launchpad, but it should be fine now. Awesome! You truly rock! Much appreciated, Hanno

Re: [Zope-dev] [zope2] Help needed with security checks and add views

2010-07-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Ideally I'd love to add support for the permission attribute, as clearly people have been using it. But if there's nobody who can figure out how to do that, I'd at least like to clarify the add view case. Why can't

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.traversing's ILocation behavior

2010-07-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: [zope.traversing absolute URL behavior] I've applied the fix to zope.traversing and added a test as well. It's released as zope.traversing. I've also updated the ZTK to use this version. Thanks! (initially I used

Re: [Zope-dev] audit of RestrictedPython for Python 2.7

2010-07-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi David, awesome work! Sidnei or Stephan, can one of you comment on David's approach or offer a review? Cheers, Hanno On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:42 AM, David Glick davidgl...@groundwire.org wrote: I am done (as far as I can tell) evaluating RestrictedPython to see if changes are needed to

[Zope-dev] Including Paste into the ZTK version list?

2010-07-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. I noticed that all three frameworks (BB, Grok, Zope2) have version pins for Paste, PasteDeploy and PasteScript. Does anyone object to including them into the ztk-versions.cfg under dependencies? It's currently: Paste = 1.7.4 PasteDeploy = 1.3.3 PasteScript = 1.7.3 Note that Paste 1.7.4

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZTK] toolchain versions

2010-07-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: http://svn.zope.org/zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk-versions.cfg?rev=114375view=auto is there any reason why the versions pinning of the toolchain are in the ztk-versions.cfg ?  Packages such as z3c.recipe.depgraph,

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 2.7 on the apfy buildbots

2010-07-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: The afpy buildbots now all run a slave with Python 2.7 final http://buildbot.afpy.org/ Yeah! Jan-Jaap and Sebastien, could you update your buildouts as well? Python 2.7 should run for the ZTK trunk, zc.buildout and Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 2.7 on the apfy buildbots

2010-07-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: However, the 2.7 slaves don't send any alert to the zope-tests list. Should I enable this? The winbot already sends reports for Python 2.7, so I'd say go ahead and spam us :) More blame might get someone to fix those two

[Zope-dev] [zope2] Looking for a maintainer for ZSQLMethods / Shared.DC.ZRDB

2010-07-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. Are you using Products.ZSQLMethods or DC.Shared.ZRDB? Are you interested in maintaining it? Starting with Zope 2.13 these packages are no longer part of the Zope 2 distribution. The code has moved to its own project, as the core Zope 2 developers haven't had a strong interest in it anymore.

Re: [Zope-dev] [zope2] Help needed with security checks and add views

2010-07-08 Thread Hanno Schlichting
that has such registrations, anonymous users should be able to create any such content item in any location. Hanno On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: recently MJ opened a security related bug and disclosed it to the public at https://bugs.launchpad.net

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.traversing's ILocation behavior

2010-07-08 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: The fix in my code was to make my model provide ILocation itself, so that it would adapt itself and therefore avoid the proxy. I think that might be correct but at the same time is really obscure; in my code the

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 2.7 disables deprecation warnings by default

2010-07-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: I'm not sure what the best way to handle this is.  My initial thought is that all test runners should enable deprecations by default.  This seems hard to enforce. Individual test modules can do this, but I'm uncomfortable having

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-07-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Fred Drake fdr...@acm.org wrote: I've yet to hear any response to my post about non-backward-compatible classes:    https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-July/040898.html Is no one else concerned about the backward incompatibility introduced by

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 2.7 and the ZTK - three test failures

2010-07-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi again. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: with Python 2.7 final being released, I ran the ZTK tests against it. zope.exceptions, zope.formlib and zope.proxy all have one test output related failure. I fixed all of those and released new versions

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 26 OK, 10 Failed, 5 Unknown

2010-07-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Zope Tests Summarizer zope-te...@epy.co.at wrote: Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Mon Jul  5 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Tue Jul  6 12:00:00 2010 UTC. There were 41 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 3 from buildbot at enfoldsystems.com, 11 from buildbot

[Zope-dev] Python 2.7 and the ZTK - three test failures

2010-07-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi there, with Python 2.7 final being released, I ran the ZTK tests against it. zope.exceptions, zope.formlib and zope.proxy all have one test output related failure. RestrictedPython will need a security review. Any help with those appreciated, Hanno Full test output: Running

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 21 OK, 8 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-07-04 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Zope Tests Summarizer zope-te...@epy.co.at wrote: Unknown --- Subject: UNKNOWN : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Sat Jul  3 21:30:30 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-July/016058.html Subject: UNKNOWN :

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 26 OK, 2 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-07-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Subject: UNKNOWN : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jul  2 21:32:12 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-July/016028.html These are due to an SSH issue: -

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2: move nt_svcutils to separate distribution

2010-07-02 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. I'm reviewing your branch now and will look at the nt_svcutils issue. Hanno On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: I was working on running ZEO as a windows service using plone.recipe.zeoserver:

Re: [Zope-dev] Help!

2010-06-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Well, that should be all I need to say - the help system is missing from Zope 2 trunk. I don't know exactly when it disappeared but I use it occasionally as a quick way to check on stuff and Hanno didn't

[Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - 1.0a1 release

2010-06-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On behalf of the Zope Toolkit release team and the Zope community, I'm happy to announce the first 1.0 alpha release of the Zope Toolkit. You can read more about the release at http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/releases/overview-1.0a1.html. The first ZTK release supports all of Python 2.4,

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope summit topics

2010-06-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: So I'd like to open up the floor to everyone who ponders participating and express their wishes/hopes/expectations for the summit. Don't start your engines trying to solve any specific issue right now. Try to abstain from

[Zope-dev] [zope2] Help needed with security checks and add views

2010-06-26 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi there, recently MJ opened a security related bug and disclosed it to the public at https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/578326. In short Zope 2 never supported the permission attribute on ZCML browser:view declarations. It seems some people might have specified this attribute and assumed it

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.8 and 2.13.0a1 released

2010-06-25 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi there, on behalf of the Zope community it is my pleasure to announce the release of a new maintenance release of Zope 2.12.8 - most noteworthy it should install on FreeBSD now. I'm also happy to announce the first alpha release of the next major version 2.13.0a1. You can read all the news at

Re: [Zope-dev] check_python_version in Zope 2.12.7

2010-06-24 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Sylvain Viollon sylv...@infrae.com wrote:  There is a nice (and yet useless) python version check done in  Zope2.Startup to verify that you have at least Python 2.3.4 when the  daemon start.  I guess it's a bit outdated in Zope2 2.12.7 (this version).

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sendmail and critical transaction errors.

2010-06-23 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: I think the Before Commit Hook option is probably best here. DirectMailDelivery should only be used for testing anyway, or at least only on very small sites in production - QueuedMailDelivery will scale better. A

Re: [Zope-dev] Problem with CMF trunk and Zope 2 trunk

2010-06-23 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: I just wanted to test something with the CMF buildout and I'm getting the following error. As far as I can tell I have everything correctly up to date. What's going wrong? You have likely some old SVN

Re: [Zope-dev] connection commit ordering

2010-06-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leoroch...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Can I commit it to Zope 2.12 as well? It is backward compatible and helps us address a bug we see on production. Go ahead. It really is trivial :) Hanno ___

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 55 OK, 5 Failed, 4 Unknown

2010-06-17 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: On 06/17/2010 01:58 PM, Zope Tests Summarizer wrote: Unknown --- Subject: FAILURE: Total languishing bugs: 1 From: ct at gocept.com Date: Wed Jun 16 20:30:17 EDT 2010 URL:

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.wineggbuilder

2010-06-17 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com wrote: The buildbot seems to work fine. I'll let it do the following packages tonight: What exactly is do here? It builds binary Windows eggs for those packages for various Python versions I'd assume. What does it do with

Re: [Zope-dev] All sponsored MSDN licenses received?

2010-06-15 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Sidnei da Silva sidnei.da.si...@canonical.com wrote: Has not arrived here. But then again Brazil is far away. Not here either, Norway is far away as well, except from the north pole :) Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Jonas Meurer jo...@freesources.org wrote: first, thanks for clarifying. did i get you right, that for the future, monolithic source releases of zope2 are planned again once the dust has settled? No. There is currently no monolithic released planned at all.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Aim for having a Zope 2.13 release in time for Plone 4.1, get a first alpha release out by the end of the month or early July. We can have more alpha releases during the summer, a beta probably around the zope-dev summit / German Zope User Group conference

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Charlie, On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: thanks for the information. I'm a little confused by the narrative - is Plone 4.0 being held back by a Zope 2 release? No, Plone 4 is delayed for all the normal reasons of too many open bugs

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM, David Glick davidgl...@groundwire.org wrote: Has the process of reviewing RestrictedPython against a new Python release been documented anywhere? Not that I know of. Stephan Richter and Sidnei da Silva were the last to do these reviews, maybe they know. Hanno

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: On the whole, I would actually favor getting a 2.13.0 out even sooner than Hanno suggests, to get it used (and therefore more polished) sooner.  With the post-eggification reduction in Zope2's scope, I think a six month

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testrunner 4.0.0b2 problem

2010-06-10 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: I assume the breakage occurs, since I released zc.recipe.testrunner last night that uses zope.testrunner instead of zope.testing. Hhm, the new zc.recipe.testrunner introduces a non-backwards compatible

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testrunner 4.0.0b2 problem

2010-06-10 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: We are not really changing the API in a BBB incompatible way. We simply shuffled code around. We did that all the time and never increased the major version number. The code is no longer compatible with

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ Bunch of version updates and note incompatibilities in minor versions

2010-06-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: If the comments are valid, these all smell like process fouls:  a new third-dot release should not introduce backward incompatibilities. Sure. These are all from late 2009 cut in the middle

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 and Broken classes

2010-06-04 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Sylvain Viollon sylv...@infrae.com wrote:  After more testing, I have more information. This bug has been  introduced by the release 2.13.0 of ExtensionClass and Persistance  packages. Running 2.12.0  of packages make it disappear.  I guess I should report this

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 15 OK, 4 Failed

2010-05-24 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: zope.browserpage, which I am not privileged to release.  Can one of the owners (nadako, J1m, srichter, gary, tlotze, hannosch, faassen, baijum, agroszer) either add me ('tseaver') to the list, or else make a release? You

[Zope-dev] ZTK release team - kickoff meeting - delayed summary

2010-05-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi there, I've been slacking and forgot to post the summary of the first ZTK release team meeting. Here it is. I'll put it into SVN into the ztk-docs area as well. Cheers, Hanno ZTK meeting - 2010-05-06 Attendance -- ccomb, j-w, hannosch Agenda -- - No

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.6 this Monday

2010-05-17 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: I'm planning to make a new bugfix release of Zope2 on Monday (2010-05-17) in time for the next Plone 4.0 beta release. The 2.12.6 release is made, Windows binary eggs will follow later today. Hanno

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Breaking out more packages

2010-05-17 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: - Move Shared.TaintedString to an external distribution. +1 for putting it into AccessControl. Yeah, makes most sense I guess. It's just one file after all. - Move the ZMI parts

[Zope-dev] Zope2 - Breaking out more packages

2010-05-16 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. I've started working some more on my pet project of refactoring Zope2 - specifically to move all C code to external distributions. My working branch is at svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope/branches/hannosch-dtml-vs-accesscontrol which also has a TODO.txt with some notes. On the branch

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.6 this Monday

2010-05-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. I'm planning to make a new bugfix release of Zope2 on Monday (2010-05-17) in time for the next Plone 4.0 beta release. There's a ton of changes already. If you have more things to wrap up, please do so :) Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg Update to ZODB3 = 3.9.5 and include a pin for the new package providing the mkzeoinst script

2010-05-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: ZODB is only included in the ZTK as a dependency, because some packages import it:  nothing else in the ZTK configures server instances. Nothing in zopeapp uses it either? Not that I know off.

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: Zope/trunk/versions.cfg Group versions by the 'sets' to which they correspond.

2010-05-04 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Should the triumvirs so decide, attached is the patch for zopetoolkit which adopts the versions from Zope2.  The normal buildout (using eggs rather than checkouts) passes all test-ztk and test-zopeapp tests with this

Re: [Zope-dev] adding the weekly irc meetings record to the ZTK docs?

2010-05-04 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: I think some kind of paper trail is definitely a good idea. Not sure if docs is the right place but Christian is planning to put the reports into the svn repository. And both location and form are less

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Martijn, On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Because my suggestions (besides the fork issue) as a ZTK user/contributor were scattered through the thread, here's a handy summary: Thank you very much for your suggestions. I'm sure the release team

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Last december Hanno made progress on the ZTK's dependency structure, removing a lot of dependencies on packages. In his enthusiasm, he unilaterally just removed all those suddenly-unneeded (by him!) packages from the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: Hanno Schlichting a écrit : Hhm. I'm inclined to drop 2.4 support here. Using a zope.testing that tries to be compatible all the way from 2.4 to 3.1 is quite a bit of a stretch. Unless I missed something, the ZTK

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-02 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Good evening :) If you have a specific issue with me, you might contact me in private. But with your follow-ups this turned into a more general issue. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Of course what applies to Hanno should

Re: [Zope-dev] Moving zpasswd from zope.app.server to zope.password?

2010-05-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Uli Fouquet u...@gnufix.de wrote: It would mean for zope.password to depend additionally on zope.configuration and zope.component. Are there any objections to this step? No objection here. zope.password isn't used in Zope2 :) Hanno

Re: [Zope-dev] Version bump question? Bikeshed here.

2010-04-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: I updated zc.receipe.testrunner to use zope.testrunner instead of zope.testing.testrunner. Initial testing has shown that this should be compatible, and although the code changes are minor, it's potentially unexpected.

Re: [Zope-dev] Version bump question? Bikeshed here.

2010-04-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Fred Drake fdr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: If it is intended to be backwards compatible and seems to be so, I'd say go with 1.3. It sounds like a new package dependency, like we have had many

Re: [Zope-dev] I would like to have some releases

2010-04-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I started carefully with zope.interface 3.6.0. :) Source only so far. I have a Windows machine, and I could make Windows releases as well, I guess. Is there any docs on what's needed for that? I haven't built

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK community packages

2010-04-25 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: I believe packages such as z3c.form, z3c.macro, z3c.template, z3c.pagelet (and many others) are among the most important packages. I wonder why they are not included in the ZTK? I always end up using them, I

Re: [Zope-dev] bug tracker gardening for bugday

2010-04-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Incomplete is the auto-expiring state:  if nobody responds in 30 days, it automatically disappears. I agree that we should at least attempt to reproduce even really old bugs before assigning them 'wontfix' status (if we

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.5 - this weekend

2010-04-19 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. I'm planning to do a new Zope 2.12.5 release this weekend. Yvo is going to try to look some more into the unauthorized / exception view interaction and I hope to get a ZODB 3.9.5 release from Jim. If you have anything else you want to get in, commit away or let me know. Cheers, Hanno P.S.

Re: [Zope-dev] Repository for the zope mail summarizer

2010-04-16 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Patrick Gerken do3cc...@googlemail.com wrote: And who runs that script atm? Talk to testmaster Stefan Holek irc: lurker, stefan (at) epy dot co dot at He wrote the script and runs it. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

[Zope-dev] Comply with repository policy ?

2010-04-08 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. I've seen lots of checkins recently stating Comply with repository policy. I haven't seen any announcement of a new official repository policy. Have I missed it? I'd be especially interested who exactly is responsible for changing code so that it complies with the new policy. How much of

Re: [Zope-dev] Wanted: representatives from Zope 2, grok, and BlueBream to engineer ZTK 1.0 release

2010-04-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: I will be the representative for BlueBream, since Baiju is already doing an enormous amount of work and he needs help. Awesome news! Let's wait a little bit more for a caveman to stand up for Grok, and we can

[Zope-dev] short svn.zope.org downtime

2010-04-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi, looks like SVN and viewcvs weren't responding for a couple minutes. I could log into the machine via SSH and Apache serving docs.zope.org still worked. I only noticed: 27059 simon 20 0 98664 6388 4360 R 100 0.2 43327:19 darcs Why do we have darcs running on that machine and more

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: I don't think I'll be able to work on it, but I think it's worth consideration: Unicode issues with Zope 2.12.  I've seen these on at least three different Zope 2 sites built with a combination of TTW page templates,

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: - Five deprecation +1 - sounds hairy, though. Getting rid of the Zope 2 specific ViewPageTemplateFile and BrowserView (already done, I guess) would be a good starting point. With Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 01.04.2010, 15:30 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu: With Zope 2.12 BrowserView is basically done. You can now import the BrowserView class from zope.publisher.browser instead of the one

[Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-03-31 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi there, I was in too much of a good mood while having some vacation. So I thought I need more work to do :) I'd like to step up as the release manager for Zope2 for the 2.12 and 2.13 (trunk) releases. I've gotten an overwhelmingly positive response to this proposal from the Zope Foundation

Re: [Zope-dev] Wanted: representatives from Zope 2, grok, and BlueBream to engineer ZTK 1.0 release

2010-03-31 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: * Zope 2: In theory I'd suggest the Zope 2 release manager. In practice   I'd like to nominate Hanno because he's been very active with Zope 2   recently and already has done work on the ZTK before. (Hanno: sorry.  

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-03-31 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: great that you'll be Release Manager. I only have questions on the forthcoming release - a summary of the proposed changes / bugfixes for us to moan about! ;-) We release whatever is on the stable branch,

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-03-31 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: What's the next step? I'd love to see some roadmapping ala that you did for Plone 5, in particular to discuss our WSGI story (which I'm interested in helping out with if others can help too). There's no big roadmap

[Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. For Zope 2.13 (trunk) I'd like to try to reduce the C dependencies of the Zope2 distribution itself. Ideally it would not have any C dependencies in its own distribution, but that's a bit too much for now. As a next step I'd like to split out the initgroups, Missing, MultiMapping, Record and

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: For Zope 2.13 (trunk) I'd like to try to reduce the C dependencies of the Zope2 distribution itself. Ideally it would not have any C dependencies in its own distribution Why

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: It simplifies the release process for Zope2. In most cases upgrading to a new version of Zope2 won't involve any changes to C code. If the C code is split out, we won't have to release any

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 3/30/10 16:56 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: If this is done the remaining C libraries are in AccessControl, DocumentTemplate and ZCTextIndex. AccessControl has a reference implementation in Python and could the C

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: If I remember corrcetly Malthe's pure-python variant of zope.i18nmessage got vetoed late 2008, so it is still requires C compilation. Look at the source [1] or the release notes for the 3.5.0 release from last June.

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPublisher events before streaming a response

2010-03-21 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: We'd therefore like to add a new event in the HTTPResponse class (in ZServer, though I think it makes sense to add to the ZPublisher base class version as well). It'd hook in something like this:     if not

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPublisher events before streaming a response

2010-03-21 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Why would you need to have the event on the request, if all you want is to set headers? Why not make it an event with the response as the argument instead? Mainly because that's what all

Re: [Zope-dev] Control Panel/Product Management doesn't display normal products in Zope 2.12

2010-03-15 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: In Zope 2.12, Control Panel - Product Management doesn't display normal products. This functionality was working until Zope 2.11 What do you mean with normal products ? A simple folder in one of the products/ directories

Re: [Zope-dev] Control Panel/Product Management doesn't display normal products in Zope 2.12

2010-03-15 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: Does the current plone.recipe.zope2instance disable that? I also noticed recently that in a stock Plone 4 install products no longer show up in the control panel. Yes, that specific recipe in versions 4.x targeted at

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing 3.9.0 not installable?

2010-03-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: I could upload a fixed tarball to PyPI (if I could make up my mind if it should be 3.9.0 or 3.9.1), but I'm interested in the root cause: how was the tarball generated? Given that Sidnei did the release, I suspect the

Re: [Zope-dev] [PATCH] subunit output for zope.testing

2010-03-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: It's not really in scope for this patch, but given the rising popularity of Hudson I think it would be nice to have a small README.hudson in zope.testing explaining the integration. Well, if all you want is Hudson output

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