Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-09 Thread Baiju M
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leoroch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 07:18, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 04:56, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs Heh, nice! :-) Except that

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-08 Thread Simon Michael
Ravels Bolero (or some part of it): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urfjyj4FnUc Or some not so well-known piano music from Rachmaninov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EkeM8Q3Z-A Something more theatralic (at 0:23): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yctfXIqugXc Or this (at 3:37):

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-07 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 04:56, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs Heh, nice! :-) -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-07 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 07:18, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 04:56, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs Heh, nice! :-) Except that the song in this clip is what weddings in Brazil traditionally play in the part where

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-07 Thread Baiju M
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leoroch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 07:18, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 04:56, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs Heh, nice! :-) Except that

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-07 Thread Simon Michael
I really liked that music for Zope. Substantial, timeless, yet also sweet and humorous. :) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-07 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Donnerstag 07 Januar 2010 04:56:33 schrieb Baiju M: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: BTW, the original meaning of BlueBream is same as that of Zope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramis_ballerus Cute! FTR, I will be shortening BlueBream to BB. I

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Gustavo Rahal
Em Qua, 2010-01-06 às 07:45 +0530, Baiju M escreveu: Hi All, Thanks to all those who participated in this discussion so far. I will try to make baby steps for the project. So, for time being I will focus on the getting started story (which is somewhat ready) then documentation, a

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Baiju M
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Gustavo Rahal gra...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: P.S - As a ibm employee, there is already too much blue going on in my day to day work :) I am not a native English speaker. So, blue is used in more negative contexts ? Regards, Baiju M

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Gustavo Rahal
Em Qua, 2010-01-06 às 19:00 +0530, Baiju M escreveu: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Gustavo Rahal gra...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: P.S - As a ibm employee, there is already too much blue going on in my day to day work :) I am not a native English speaker. So, blue is used in more

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Dienstag 05 Januar 2010 16:54:28 schrieb Ethan Jucovy: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: On Monday 04 January 2010, Baiju M wrote: I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Alex Clark
On 2010-01-04, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. But the package named bluebream will not provide any part of framework code by itself. All the framework code will be in

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: Microsoft, really? Interesting, I personally think about IBM (Big Blue)... The Blue Screen of Death definitely signifies Microsoft to me! That also qualifies as a serious bad-vibes indicator. ;-) -Fred -- Fred L.

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Ethan Jucovy
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: +1 on just bream from an interested bystander.  Somehow the blue makes me think of microsoft. Microsoft, really? I guess it's some blurred combination of the blue color schemes I always associate with Windows, and the

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Baiju M
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: BTW, the original meaning of BlueBream is same as that of Zope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramis_ballerus Cute! FTR, I will be shortening BlueBream to BB. I agree that the nickname Bream is OK, but that the full name

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Albertas Agejevas
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 09:29:10AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 04 January 2010, Baiju M wrote: I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. But the package named bluebream will not provide any part of

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05.01.10 08:36, Martin Aspeli wrote: +1. It puts the final nail in the Zope 3 coffin and allows a reborn vampire to emerge from slumber. Ok, we all hate the damage that Zope 3 did and I have no problem to call one of the x Zope Webframeworks

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Christian Theune
Hi there, On 01/04/2010 07:23 PM, Baiju M wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. But the package named bluebream will not provide any part of framework code by itself. All the framework code will be

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05.01.10 08:36, Martin Aspeli wrote: +1. It puts the final nail in the Zope 3 coffin and allows a reborn vampire to emerge from slumber. Ok, we all hate the damage that Zope 3 did and I have no problem to call one

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05.01.10 08:36, Martin Aspeli wrote: +1. It puts the final nail in the Zope 3 coffin and allows a reborn vampire to emerge from slumber. Ok, we all

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Andreas Jung wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. But the package named bluebream will not provide any part of framework code by itself. All the

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Martijn Faassen
robert rottermann wrote: [snip] all the other items bear so little market value that even an insider can not place them. Therefore I think either of the two should be part of any new packages name meant to be recognized by non Zope affectionados. Bluebream for Zope I've sometimes called

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:28, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: I associate blueberry bagels with cream cheese when reading the name Bluebream. Yummy! -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 04 January 2010, Baiju M wrote: I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. But the package named bluebream will not provide any part of framework code by itself. All the framework code will be in zope and

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Ethan Jucovy
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: On Monday 04 January 2010, Baiju M wrote: I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. But the package named bluebream will not

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Gediminas Paulauskas
2010/1/5 Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com: Andreas Jung wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream.  The main use for name is documentation. But the package named bluebream will not

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 16:55, Gediminas Paulauskas mene...@pov.lt wrote: If we released Zope 3 the web framework as version 3.5, little would change for existing Zope 3 users since it still includes all zope.app packages with backward compatibility imports. Wasn't this the plan last year? I

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Souheil CHELFOUH
I like Bream. BlueBream or Blue Bream. Just change the name Zope3 so we get over it eventually. I'm a zope3 user btw ! 2010/1/5 Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 16:55, Gediminas Paulauskas mene...@pov.lt wrote: If we released Zope 3 the web framework as version 3.5,

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Baiju M wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Baiju Mmba...@zeomega.com wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. I am unable to make a conclusion out of this discussion as many real users of Zope 3 - the web frame work is not given +1 But

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Martin Aspeli wrote: Baiju M wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Baiju Mmba...@zeomega.com wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. I am unable to make a conclusion out of this discussion as many real users of Zope 3 - the web frame

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Baiju M
Hi All, Thanks to all those who participated in this discussion so far. I will try to make baby steps for the project. So, for time being I will focus on the getting started story (which is somewhat ready) then documentation, a small website ( http://bluebream.zope.org ) and before 1.0

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Chris McDonough
Strong +1 from me (although my vote is likely not meaningful) Baiju M wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. But the package named bluebream will not provide any part of framework code by itself. All

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. Coming from marketing I strongly suggest to think twice or better thrice before inventing

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. Coming from marketing I strongly suggest to think twice or better thrice before inventing the next new name

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 21:44, Shane Hathaway sh...@hathawaymix.org wrote: Well, the name Zope 3 is effectively dead, yet there are still a number of developers who want to work on it and improve it.  Those developers need to rename and regroup.  BlueBream is a clever name and I think it's a

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shane Hathaway wrote: Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. Coming from marketing I strongly suggest

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Montag 04 Januar 2010 20:16:50 schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke: On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. Coming from marketing I strongly suggest to think twice or better

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Simon Michael
Have you considered just Bream ? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Tim Hoffman
I got the fish connection straight away. Not sure its a good move. T On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: Am Montag 04 Januar 2010 20:16:50 schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke: On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Am 05.01.2010 um 00:43 schrieb Hermann Himmelbauer: Although I tend to give you right, as probably no one will get the fish connection and therefore a new name has to be raised up, I vote for BlueBream, as this indicates something very new, which frees itself from those endless Zope 3,

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread robert rottermann
Am 05.01.2010 08:13, schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke: Am 05.01.2010 um 00:43 schrieb Hermann Himmelbauer: Although I tend to give you right, as probably no one will get the fish connection and therefore a new name has to be raised up, I vote for BlueBream, as this indicates something very new,