Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-09 Thread Baiju M
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 07:18, Lennart Regebro wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 04:56, Baiju M wrote: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs >> >> Heh, nice! :-) > > Except that the song in this clip is what weddings in Bra

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-08 Thread Simon Michael
> Ravels Bolero (or some part of it): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urfjyj4FnUc > > Or some not so well-known piano music from Rachmaninov: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EkeM8Q3Z-A > > Something more theatralic (at 0:23): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yctfXIqugXc > Or this (at 3:37): > ht

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-07 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Donnerstag 07 Januar 2010 04:56:33 schrieb Baiju M: > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Alex Clark wrote: > >> BTW, the original meaning of "BlueBream" is > >> same as that of "Zope": > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramis_ballerus > > > > Cute! FTR, I will be shortening BlueBream to BB. I agr

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-07 Thread Simon Michael
I really liked that music for Zope. Substantial, timeless, yet also sweet and humorous. :) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://ma

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-07 Thread Baiju M
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 07:18, Lennart Regebro wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 04:56, Baiju M wrote: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs >> >> Heh, nice! :-) > > Except that the song in this clip is what weddings in Bra

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-07 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 07:18, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 04:56, Baiju M wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs > > Heh, nice! :-) Except that the song in this clip is what weddings in Brazil traditionally play in the part where the bride walks down the aisle wi

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-07 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 04:56, Baiju M wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs Heh, nice! :-) -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://ma

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Albertas Agejevas
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 09:29:10AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote: > On Monday 04 January 2010, Baiju M wrote: > > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > > But the package named "bluebream" will not provide > > any

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Baiju M
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Alex Clark wrote: >> BTW, the original meaning of "BlueBream" is >> same as that of "Zope": >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramis_ballerus > > Cute! FTR, I will be shortening BlueBream to BB. I agree that > the nickname "Bream" is OK, but that the full name should

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Ethan Jucovy
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: >> +1 on just "bream" from an interested bystander.  Somehow the "blue" makes >> me think of microsoft. > > Microsoft, really? I guess it's some blurred combination of the blue color schemes I always associate with Windows, and the blue

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: > Microsoft, really? Interesting, I personally think about IBM (Big Blue)... The Blue Screen of Death definitely signifies Microsoft to me! That also qualifies as a serious bad-vibes indicator. ;-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr.

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Alex Clark
On 2010-01-04, Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > But the package named "bluebream" will not provide > any part of framework code by itself. All the framework > code will be in "zope"

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Dienstag 05 Januar 2010 16:54:28 schrieb Ethan Jucovy: > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Stephan Richter < > > srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu> wrote: > > On Monday 04 January 2010, Baiju M wrote: > > > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > > > as "BlueBream". The main u

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Gustavo Rahal
Em Qua, 2010-01-06 às 19:00 +0530, Baiju M escreveu: > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Gustavo Rahal > wrote: > > P.S - As a ibm employee, there is already too much "blue" going on in my > > day to day work :) > > I am not a native English speaker. So, "blue" is used in more negative > contexts

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Baiju M
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Gustavo Rahal wrote: > P.S - As a ibm employee, there is already too much "blue" going on in my > day to day work :) I am not a native English speaker. So, "blue" is used in more negative contexts ? Regards, Baiju M ___

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-06 Thread Gustavo Rahal
Em Qua, 2010-01-06 às 07:45 +0530, Baiju M escreveu: > Hi All, >Thanks to all those who participated in this discussion so far. > I will try to make baby steps for the project. So, for time being > I will focus on the getting started story (which is somewhat ready) > then documentation, a

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Baiju M
Hi All, Thanks to all those who participated in this discussion so far. I will try to make baby steps for the project. So, for time being I will focus on the getting started story (which is somewhat ready) then documentation, a small website ( http://bluebream.zope.org ) and before 1.0 rele

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Martin Aspeli wrote: > Baiju M wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Baiju M wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" >>> as "BlueBream". >> I am unable to make a conclusion out of this discussion as many >> real users of "Zope 3 - the web frame w

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Baiju M wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Baiju M wrote: >> Hi All, >> I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" >> as "BlueBream". > > I am unable to make a conclusion out of this discussion as many > real users of "Zope 3 - the web frame work" is not given +1 > But th

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Souheil CHELFOUH
I like Bream. BlueBream or Blue Bream. Just change the name Zope3 so we get over it eventually. I'm a "zope3" user btw ! 2010/1/5 Lennart Regebro : > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 16:55, Gediminas Paulauskas wrote: >> If we released "Zope 3 the web framework" as version 3.5, little would >> change for e

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 16:55, Gediminas Paulauskas wrote: > If we released "Zope 3 the web framework" as version 3.5, little would > change for existing Zope 3 users since it still includes all zope.app > packages with backward compatibility imports. Wasn't this the plan > last year? I see no more

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Baiju M
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, >         I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". I am unable to make a conclusion out of this discussion as many real users of "Zope 3 - the web frame work" is not given +1 But there are so many +1 from othe

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Gediminas Paulauskas
2010/1/5 Martin Aspeli : > Andreas Jung wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Baiju M wrote: >>> Hi All, I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" as >>> "BlueBream".  The main use for name is documentation. But the >>> package named "bluebream" will not provid

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Ethan Jucovy
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Stephan Richter < srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu> wrote: > On Monday 04 January 2010, Baiju M wrote: > > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > > But the package named "bluebream" w

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 04 January 2010, Baiju M wrote: > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > But the package named "bluebream" will not provide > any part of framework code by itself. All the framework > code will be in "zope

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:28, Andreas Jung wrote: > I associate blueberry bagels with cream cheese when reading the name > "Bluebream". Yummy! -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev ma

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Martijn Faassen
robert rottermann wrote: [snip] > all the other items bear so little "market value" that even an insider can not > place them. > > Therefore I think either of the two should be part of any new packages name > meant to be recognized by non Zope affectionados. > > Bluebream for Zope I've sometimes

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Andreas Jung wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Baiju M wrote: >> Hi All, I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" as >> "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. But the >> package named "bluebream" will not provide any part of framework >> code by

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" as > "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. But the > package named "bluebream" will not provide any part of framework > code by itself. All the framework code

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 04.01.2010, 19:23 Uhr, schrieb Baiju M : > Hi All, > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > But the package named "bluebream" will not provide > any part of framework code by itself. All the framework > code wil

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: > Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 05.01.10 08:36, Martin Aspeli wrote: >>> +1. It puts the final nail in the Zope 3 coffin and allows a reborn >>> vampire to emerge from slumbe

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05.01.10 08:36, Martin Aspeli wrote: >> +1. It puts the final nail in the Zope 3 coffin and allows a reborn >> vampire to emerge from slumber. > > Ok, we all hate the damage that Zope 3 did and I have no problem to c

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Christian Theune
Hi there, On 01/04/2010 07:23 PM, Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > But the package named "bluebream" will not provide > any part of framework code by itself. All the framework > co

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 09:16, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > Possible solution: > If all of the ZTK is in the namespace zope someday, why don't we call > the ZTK "Zope", as it seems to be the heart of all these webframeworks? If Zope 2 disappears, which still is at least years in the future, then I'

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05.01.10 08:36, Martin Aspeli wrote: > +1. It puts the final nail in the Zope 3 coffin and allows a reborn > vampire to emerge from slumber. Ok, we all hate the damage that Zope 3 did and I have no problem to call one of the x Zope Webframeworks "

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread robert rottermann
Am 05.01.2010 08:13, schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke: > > Am 05.01.2010 um 00:43 schrieb Hermann Himmelbauer: >> Although I tend to give you right, as probably no one will get the "fish >> connection" and therefore a new name has to be raised up, I vote for >> BlueBream, as this indicates something v

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 08:36, Martin Aspeli wrote: > +1. It puts the final nail in the Zope 3 coffin and allows a reborn > vampire to emerge from slumber. Vampire Fish! Aaaargh! -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 _

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Martin Aspeli
Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > But the package named "bluebream" will not provide > any part of framework code by itself. All the framework > code will be in "zope" and "zope.app"

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Baiju M
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > > Am 05.01.2010 um 00:43 schrieb Hermann Himmelbauer: >> Although I tend to give you right, as probably no one will get the "fish >> connection" and therefore a new name has to be raised up, I vote for >> BlueBream, as this indicates som

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Am 05.01.2010 um 00:43 schrieb Hermann Himmelbauer: > Although I tend to give you right, as probably no one will get the "fish > connection" and therefore a new name has to be raised up, I vote for > BlueBream, as this indicates something very new, which frees itself from > those endless "Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Tim Hoffman
I got the fish connection straight away. Not sure its a good move. T On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: > Am Montag 04 Januar 2010 20:16:50 schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke: > > On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - th

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Simon Michael
Have you considered just "Bream" ? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Montag 04 Januar 2010 20:16:50 schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke: > On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > > Coming from marketing I strongly suggest to think twice or

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > But the package named "bluebream" will not provide > any part of framework code by itself. All the fra

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Baiju M wrote: > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". +1 Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! **

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shane Hathaway wrote: > Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: >> On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" >>> as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. >> Coming from marketing I

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 21:44, Shane Hathaway wrote: > Well, the name "Zope 3" is effectively dead, yet there are still a > number of developers who want to work on it and improve it.  Those > developers need to rename and regroup.  BlueBream is a clever name and I > think it's a great idea.  Once

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: >> Hi All, >> I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" >> as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > > Coming from marketing I strongly suggest to think twice or better thrice > before inventing the

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. Coming from marketing I strongly suggest to think twice or better thrice before inve

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Chris McDonough
Strong +1 from me (although my vote is likely not meaningful) Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, > I am proposing to call "Zope 3 - the web frame work" > as "BlueBream". The main use for name is documentation. > But the package named "bluebream" will not provide > any part of framework code by it