change the baseclass. But that's a discussion
for anotehr day).
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that the zope book
indicates only imports.
Ok, thank you for reading..
Valerio
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. Changes that is
*far* from trivial. So I think it's mostly a question of Should Zope
corp put down the effort to keep ZClasses working, because, most
likely nobody else can...
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to Zope
or in general.
Thoughts? Is this positive, negative or neutral?
As zope doesn't run on Iron python the impact will be small. it's nice
for people that are forced to run .NET to be able to do it in Python
though. And it does marginally widen .NETs appeal, but only
marginally. :-)
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On the Paris sprint, one thing that was noted was how ironic it was
that the release of 2.8, which includes support for the new
recommended development paradigm, was held up becuase we neeeded to
support an old non-recommended one. :-)
Anyway, my main question is: You who are using ZClasses,
would be possible
for us poor non-lawyers to actually go through and see if they are
relevant.
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important that the documentation get updated
to reflect this.
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it to be featured, that is mentioned as a recommended
practice, in a Zope2.9 book, should one appear. I also thonk that with
2.8 a 2.8 book should be released, which main feature could be to move
the ZClass part to an appendix.
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types definitions are too
inflexible for practical use, which is why archetypes, CPSSchemas and
Zope3 schemas exists now. :-)
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ref2 request/URL3 /
And so on.
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books ref1='http://foo'
Ah.
How I create refX?
I have no idea if that's even possible.
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remotely relevant, however. :-)
Well, the chapter-by-chapter editing is still not done.
See http://plope.com/Books/zb_signup for an overview of the known
tasks to be done.
OK, but that's better than expected, I'd say. :) It sais Finished on
a whole bunch of chapters.
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(Although, if you aren't planning to use any third-party products, you
might actually want to look into using Zope3 instead, which is way
cooler, but a tad more complicated to get started with).
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Zope2 is still good. Zope 3 is just better, in many ways, although it
still lacks in third-party product support.
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at this point.
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The first paragraph was great. The second wasn't :)
Well, that was all a part of the ideas they had for through-the-web
development, and that was put on hold to implement other stuff. With
file-system development only, you don't need it. :)
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tries to use the same port on both
instances?
Otehrwise I have no idea. It's always worked fine for me, I think. :)
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and 'Images' folder...
Well, no. You can just put all of it in the top folder. ugh :)
Or, as mentioned above, make a python product.
Is this in fact possible, or do I need to start tinkering with custom
products?
Well, you *should* in any case. ;)
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and trying to use is as if it was will just get strange.
Acquisition can be handy for inheriting data (or rather,
configuration), but not methods.
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programming language either.
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On 4/22/05, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are not seeking user folder functionality then I would suggest
doing it from python.
Or use CPS, which has LDAP directories where you can do this easily. :-D
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in a zope server
should be possible.
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in that respect. It still lacks good content
management tools (although this is in the works) so for content
management applications I'd recommend Zope2.
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that actually does the
deletion.
http://blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blogs/lennart_regebro/2005_04_19_python_statement/
May explain it a bit more, and if not, I should write something clearer. :^)
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will give you those features.
But, at the moment, only for ascii, because the some Zope 3 widgets
make unicode(string) calls for no apparent reason, which fails under
Five if the string contains anything above chr(128). We are looking at
solving that though. ;)
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/SimpleExamples.stx#1-8
Sure, that works too, especially if you want the same template for
several scripts. While the other method works better for several
templates and one script. :)
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the
second time around?
You put it in a hidden input-field.
I have a feeling that there's some point I'm just not getting here, but that
I'm too new to this to figure out what it is.
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What's wrong with this picture?
This:
context.REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect('personform.htm')
When you do this, you loose everything in the form. When you then in
the personform.htm do context.REQUEST.person_id you get a key-error.
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On 5/19/05, Ken Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But that just changed the error to KeyError: 'personform_htm'.
Well, it's 'personform.htm', not undescore, right?
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modern (if you compare it with python) and clear
I hear many Ruby-people claiming ruby is superiour ty Python. None has
yet been able to show me one superiority that is not simply matters of
taste.
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, but when read, it is assumed to
be GMT. This is inconsistent.
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a script that creates the data, or
reversely, use the script as the main view and let it call the
template. (I don't know how easy that last thing is with DTML, but the
first one works).
If you do this, the drawbacks of DTML becomes much less painful.
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option.
which may help me get a better understanding of how Zope and Python interact.
When it comes to Zope2: Trust me, you don't want to know. :)
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how do i add this file?
The Products folder in the control panel is not a file system
directory. The Products directory refers to the directory Products
that is created on the file system, where you created your Zope
instance when you installed Zope.
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some PHP, ASP and perl help?
Yes, it does, because knowing ASP and PERL will make you thank your
lucky star that you're not using any of them anymore. :-) I do.
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thanks for the reply. Can you suggest a provider?
Sorry, no. But I'm sure others can.
and do you think I could be up and running in a short time frame?
Sure setting up CPS is usually not a big problem at least.
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be easily used within Zope?
The CPS content management system has a workflow based on DCWorkflow
and a versioning system. I would think it would be an excellent base
for this project. http://www.cps-project.org/
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is that *you* should identify
yourself. Not the computer. Instead of changing users, the users who
should edit the page, should have the permission to do so.
And how can I logoff?
If you run internet explorer, you can't. With Firefox, there is a
ZMI-page menu entry logout. You can use that.
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For applications development, zope3 is definitely recommended. Zope2
is only recommended if you you want to use a CMS application, like
Plone, CPS, or something else. There isn't one for zope3 yet.
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there was something
which would simplify the building of a Zope site.
Well, later version of CPS contains CPSSkins, which allows you to
design your site graphically, and CPSTypeMaker, which allows you to
create new types easily.
Maybe that's something similar?
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knows who owns it, and if I go to a
certain owner's page and want it to give me a list of
all the houses she owns, it would do a search through
all the house records to see where she's mentioned.
Yup.
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of the Zope2 content management systems around (CPS,
Plone, Silva, ...) you probably want too use Zope3 for your
application development anyway. And then only method 3 (disk based
development) is available.
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explained how to do it
yourself, so...
What's your question?
And do you want to use Zope2 och Zope3.
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On 6/23/05, Tim Suter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do I have to start all over?
Yes, do what Bakhtiar said: Install a clean, new zope + all your
products from the old zope. Copy in the data.fs. Start. Fix problems
one by one as they appear. :-)
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framework that
it is easier for you.
Whoah. All he did is say that he thinks the documentation is unsatisfactory...
I don't agree, especially, but John: You can always expand and put up
examples on zopewiki.org.
http://zopewiki.org/PageTemplates
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yours, but also in other ways.
Look and nicely can refer to code, for example.
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the server is trying to use or the port may
already be in use by another application. (Address already in use)
Can someone tell me what this is?
Well, it sais that the adress you try to use is already in use, and so
far I haven't seen this happen except when it is.
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need Zope 3.0.0 or Zope 2.8.
http://www.cps-project.org/sections/projects/calendar_server
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all sites do with all that type of
Javascript functionality.
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A wild guess: Your post works, but returns a redirect to a nother
page, which returns nothing. This will look exactly like notyhing
happened at the browser side.
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used make_hidden_input, mind you, I make input
type=hidden / instead. Seems easier.
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to avoid the Zope packages that many linuxes has,
and install from source.
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from source.
Note that some weirdo have decided that distutils is a development
package, so you need to install both the python packages and the
python-dev packages, always.
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On 7/12/05, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12 Jul 2005, at 15:28, Charlene wrote:
I'm using the book The Book of Zope: How to Build and Deliver Web
Applications to learn Zope. I'm on the chapter on Versions.
Neither the book nor Zope documentation explains exactly how to
with:
self.assertResponse(response, 200)
And that _used_ to print out any exception that had occurred, but in
newer version of Zope this never happens. There sinmply never is and
_text_exception on the response anymore. Any ideas on how to get a
useable exception report on unit tests?
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On 7/16/05, David H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really my question is, what approach is recommended for a Zope
application to format numbers according to currency type?
Using a localization module is common.
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On 7/20/05, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't this really strange? How can ZEA register any ZC trademark?!
Well, you register trademarks per country, so that would be one way, I guess...
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ZC: Potay-to.
ZEA: Potah-to.
ZC: Potay-to!
ZEA: Potah-to!
ZC: Potay-to!!
ZEA: Potah-to!!
ZC: POTAY-TO, you evil thief!!!
ZEA: POTAH-TO you dictatiorial pig!!
Not a communications problem? My ass.
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On 7/27/05, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know if the zope uninstall program 'unwise.exe' can be got
separately? I have installed zope on linux but the unwise.exe program
isn't within the package.
That's because unwise.exe is only needed if you used wise to install
it.
On 7/28/05, Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, some command line tools could help... zodb operations can take
longer time (for example, changing the name of the upper folder wake up
all the contained objects...)
Yeah, but it wouldn't be faster through the command line...
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On 8/17/05, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello
I need to execute something each time Zope starts,
Really? Could you explain what and why?
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different. Ask again if you need help with the choice. :)
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technology in fact) has a serious performance
hit in the skins system. There are some improvements possible there,
like giving visitors a special skin that includes fewer skin folders
and such. Check on a plone list for more help there.
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What you are trying to do has nothing with SMTP to do. It's fully MS
Outlook specific. You would have to write a mailhost that does not use
SMTP, but integrated directly to an outlook server. I have no idea of
how to do that, or even if it's possible.
What you might want to do instead, is too see
On 9/1/05, Chris Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lennart- the fax piece is something on my exchange server so as long as the
headers are correct it will interpret and route to the physical fax server
accordingly. The problem is that I can't seem to discover through googling
what these
On 9/8/05, Georgakopoulos Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can some one help out how to set up a ZTP form to use a mailhost object
and send a email with the data that the form was filled ?
I have made the form successfully , my problem is that I don't know how
to use the mailhost.
ps:Can I
breath for that.
Besides, I like it better to do possibly incompatible changes in one
step. YMMV, of course.
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throu an SSL connection (my smtp server use SSL) and I
cant find a way on mailhost object to change the set SSL . Does mailhost
object or ZOPE support SSL connections for SMTP protocol ?
No, I don't think it does.
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may someone help me ?
Sure. What's the problem? :)
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to get values from text boxes...
Because the people who designed the HTML form functionality are brain
dead morons, Not checked and not existing is the same thing.
Therefore you need to do this:
request.form.get('fieldname', False)
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On 9/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
If i'm logged in as testuser and want to log in with a different user
name, whats the right way of doing it?
this is on zope 2.7
You select Log out of ZMI. :-)
Unless you use CMF. Or some special user folder.
Oh, and it won't
I don't know if it's a good
idea.
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On 9/29/05, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This code:
if not hasattr(pack, '_m'): pack._m=fd.__dict__
fd.debug_compile = debug_compile
fd.debug_compile__roles__ = ('Manager',)
Seems to work. I just needed to debug a script, and it worked fine!
Great product
zope3
questions than the zope list.
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On 10/5/05, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is correct, but you're just papering over a deeper problem,
namely bad cleanup in some unit tests.
Sure, but that's how reality looks. It's unfortunate, but there ya go.
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or something
like that, you would surely need several times that in practice. :)
Sorry for any calculation errors, but I can be rather a lot off
without it making a difference, so I can't be bothered to check. ;)
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On 10/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, does this error message mean that it is just a swap problem so that I
wont have to install gcc, Python anymore?
Having run top, I could dectect that there is 10,241,428k total Swap. About
3,856,000k of it is actually being used and
On 10/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not? I dont understand - killing processes does not mean getting their
space?
It's probably not going to be enough anyway.
But do you advise me to do?
That depends on what your goal is. Why are you trying to run Zope on a
virtual
stability and compatibility.
Can the list provide words of advice?
If you don't need 2.8, and since 2.7 is still maintained, stay with 2.7.
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nitty-gritty (Python) and work upwards. Starting from the
middle tends to confuse. :)
It also tends to lead you into things that are pretty much dead-ends
from a Plone standpoint, such as DTML and ZClasses.
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Oh, and another thing:
On 10/20/05, Pierre Thibault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also plan to learn Plone after Zope, is it a good path?
[...]
/Users/pierreth/Download/Zope-3.1.0/build/lib.darwin-8.2.0-Power_Macintosh-2.3/zdaemon/tests/testzdrun.py,
line 260, in testUmask
You installed Zope
could be an alternative. And new CPU boards cost, like, nothing, so it
could be a pretty cool server.
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On 10/20/05, Pierre Thibault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lennart Regebro a écrit :
Oh, and another thing:
You installed Zope 3.1. Zope 3 is very different from Zope 2, and
Plone does not run on it. So, the question is of you want to learn
Zope 2 or Zope 3. Which leads to the question: What
? Have you turned on debug mode?
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On 10/26/05, Håkan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 26, 2005, at 17:00, Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 10/26/05, Håkan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My personal guess is that both Epoz and Kupu has hidden prereqs that
the documentation does not say, or that I simply missed
go for the latest and greatest or stick with 2.8?
Depends on what you are going to use it for. So, tell us! :-)
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On 10/27/05, HaraldFinnås [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Depends on what you are going to use it for. So, tell us! :-)
Not sure myself yet. :) There will certainly be a couple of Plone sites
Well, Plone doesn't run on Zope 3, so there ya go. :)
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of maintaining an extra Python installation for
Zope?
You keep it in /usr/local. In fact, when downloading and compiling
python, that's the default place it ends up. And /usr/local/bin
usually is also first in the path, so zopes ./configure script will
find it first.
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using it than being perfect. The reason for that is that Zope
already has a very good scripting language, so the need to use perl is
very miniscule, and almost always more pain than it's worth.
asbestos_suitWhich of course is true for every use of Perl./asbestos_suit
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, and not have to use Zope-perl.
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want to use
that instead. There are no standard timezone implementation, but Zope
3 has one you might be able to use.
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in a way that doesn't
instantly break every Zope instance in existance.
what was the intention to create DateTime anyway, if there's a
python pendant already?
It didn't exist then.
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. Starting
with Zope 2.8 a technology called Five is being used to step by step
move the Zope3 programming paradigm into Zope 2. So, with Five,
interfaces are extremely important.
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and give it back to the community.
Well, that would be cool. Just a question: How do you plan to keep and
verify backwards compatibility? Any database, with any type of
DateTime object, must work transparently.
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On 11/21/05, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Well, that would be cool. Just a question: How do you plan to keep and
verify backwards compatibility? Any database, with any type of
DateTime object, must
not be a good idea for backwards compatible
reasons), you should use that.
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On 11/22/05, Jürgen Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i'll surely change the storage format, when rewriting it!
So you plan on having some version marker, or so, which
tells which storage format is used?
//Curious.
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be a Good Thing.
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On 11/25/05, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really? What should we be using instead then?
datetime works much better in most cases.
I honestly think it _should_ go away, just with plenty of notice...
Well, possibly.
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