Fair enough.  I often come across online as more dickish than I
intend.

Hence I would like to get this thread back on track to the Avengers
and not Firefly/Serenity.  Clearly that is a sore spot for me.

So is the rumor still that Loki is using the Skrulls somehow?  Along
with the Infinity Gauntlet and/or the Cosmic Cube?

On Jul 19, 12:58 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just attempting to keep up with your level of dickishness.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Sorry for steering this thread towards how bad Firefly and Serenity
> > were.
>
> > Jason, I was going to agree with you regarding Whedon and the outcome
> > of The Avengers, but since you're insulting me by saying I need "spoon
> > feeding" you can go pound salt.
>
> > Ron, I think you are dead-on about the Hulk effects not being ready to
> > show off, especially considering the sharp backlash from the fans when
> > the unfinished ILM CGI Hulk was shown in trailers for Ang Lee's Hulk.
> > I am willing to bet that Marvel wants Hulk to really "WOW" audiences
> > when he shows up on the big screen in Avengers.
>
> > Considering the less than stellar performance of Thor (as compared to
> > IM and IM2), I am curious to see what both Captain America and then
> > Avengers will do fiscally.  (Without looking up numbers I am pretty
> > sure that Incredible Hulk did about the same as Thor.)  Will Avengers
> > be seen as the third Iron Man film, putting projections in the $300m+
> > range, or as the followup to Thor and such, putting it in the $170m
> > range?
>
> > On Jul 19, 12:36 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I wasn't a Firefly fan but I thought the movie was ok. Came across as a
> > long TV show with better production values, but still watchable.
>
> > > On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:32 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > In geek culture, "known fact" does equal "desperate (fill in the blank)
> > wish". And I'd bet most on this listserve 'know' that Serenity was awesome
> > and that those that disagree are just wrong :)
>
> > > > ~Ron
>
> > > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> > > > -----Original message-----
> >  > > From: Luke <[email protected]>
> > > > To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 13:10:22 GMT+00:00
> > > > Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>
> > > > "Known fact?" You mean "desperate nerd wish?"
>
> > > > I watched the show. It made my eyes hurt. Didn't help that, as I
> > > > said in another thread yesterday, that it's a banal ripoff of Outlaw
> > > > Star. And again, I'm not otaku so that's not just a typical Asiaphile
> > > > argument.
>
> > > > Fact: The only feature film which Joss Whedon has directed made ~
> > > > $25m. Thus he has NO track record for being a successful film
> > > > director. Hence my concern for the Avengers film.
>
> > > > In any event, after seeing Thor this past weekend (discount theater) I
> > > > am very excited to see him and Iron Man interact on screen. Nevermind
> > > > Cap!
>
> > > > On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
> > > > > That is your opinion, that Serenity and Firefly was a "dog of a show"
> > when
> > > > > it is a known fact that it was actually quite fantastic.
> > > > > But, that is one of many things we accept here at TUG is that it is
> > okay for
> > > > > an opinion to be wrong. It's called diversity.
>
> > > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > > Have a Better One,
> > > > > Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Luke wrote:
> > > > > > No, I'm not wrong.  You're wrong.  That movie was a dog, and a
> > > > > > rightful fiscal failure.  Firefly was a dog of a show and the movie
> > > > > > version was incomprehensible to anyone who was not a devotee of the
> > > > > > show.
>
> > > > > > Whedon has not proven himself to be successful in feature films.
> >  The
> > > > > > fact of the matter is that his only feature film was a bomb.  And
> > > > > > hopefully he will not apply his filter of crumminess which defined
> > his
> > > > > > television shows to The Avengers.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 19, 8:00 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
> > > > > > > No it wasn't. You're wrong. It was a great, fun, and very
> > entertaining
> > > > > > > movie. Especially for the Firefly fans. There were only two bad
> > parts of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > entire film - SPOILER ALERT - when Shepherd and Wash died.
> > > > > > > Although I am not much of a Marvel fan, I am looking forward to
> > this. I
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > hoping to see The Hulk in this. He's not in any of the clips.
> > Wasn't he
> > > > > > > supposed to be in the movie? IMDB.com has credits to Mark Ruffalo
> > as puny
> > > > > > > Banner (I remember the rumors of this) and Lou Ferrigno as the
> > voice.
>
> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > > > > Have a Better One,
> > > > > > > Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Luke wrote:
> > > > > > > > "You've got a mean swing."  Nice.  I hope that we can see some
> > of Thor
> > > > > > > > And Iron Man Are Friends like we saw in the early 100s of
> > Avengers.
>
> > > > > > > > I too am very excited for this project but with the huge caveat
> > that I
> > > > > > > > hope to all the gods of the Marvel pantheon that Joss Whedon
> > doesn't
> > > > > > > > Whedon all over it and ruin it.  The only film he has ever
> > directed
> > > > > > > > (Serenity) was a mindless, hopeless, jumbled clusterbomb of a
> > > > > > > > disaster.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 6:35 am, Cary Preston wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Very amped for this now.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:41 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > agreed.  That "some assembly required" tagline is awesome.
>
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: shag
> > > > > > > > > > To: theuniquegeek
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:39 pm
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
>
> > > > > > > > > > Looks really good!
>
> > > > > > > > > > The Irredeemable Shag
> > > > > > > > > >http://firestormfan.com
> > > > > > > > > >http://onceuponageek.com
> > > > > > > > > >http://twitter.com/firestormfan
>
> > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
> > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:01 am
> > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
>
> > > > > > > > > > who knows how long this will be up -
>
> >http://gizmodo.com/5822377/the-avengers-trailer-leaked-and-its-rad
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