Ashton Hogan wrote:

<snip> ... look at your competitor, intellij, they're winning because they're embracing capitalism and prosperity. They use licenses to profit and it's WORKING! Simple as that. Follow the policy and die or embrace capitalism and stick around. Truth hurts.


I think it's best if we all agree to disagree, and leave it at that...

I started off in java programming with Eclipse, but didn't quite grasp it's working philosophy. Found Netbeans after that and jumped ship, it was way more intuitive for me and somehow easier to work with. A new member of my programming team was using Idea and slowly, others let themselves be persuaded to the "benefits"of this IDE. They made me try it out (since they had switched 2 of our projects to it), and I really did try to like it, giving it my undivided attention for about a month. However, I also never got it's working philosophy and things that were natural to me in Netbeans, weren't so much in Idea.

My point, after a somewhat convoluted historical explanation, is that IMHO, Idea has the prettier eye candy which lures away the kind of people that tend to jump to Windows 10 and say they like the interface. Also, I guess Google's decision to switch the Android development setup from Eclipse to Idea probably had the biggest impact on it's current popularity. Eclipse, on the other hand, has a huge ecosystem that seems to cater more to the hard-core programmers, so I see it as a more direct "competitor" to our Netbeans.

And talking about enterprise use of a certain software, what that really requires is mostly a good payed support system, not really a software sales system.

Anyway, it seems to me that "capitalism" has actually proven not to be a good role model for software development, see Windows bugs and backdoors vs. Linux security, see Apache httpd, mysql (before and after acquisition by Oracle), postgreSQL and lots more examples...

Just my 2 cents on the thread...

Joe1962

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