Hi Eirik

As mentioned earlier, I wouldn't do this because it's a form of donation and 
donations don't scale because unlike a license, no one is forced to pay up. 
Meaning that my contribution will feel like it has no impact and ultimately a 
waste of money. A license is a collective agreement amongst all users in the 
community saying "we will all help grow this product". This gives users much 
more peace of mind, knowing their contributions are going towards a growing 
product, not just beer money for friday.
    On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, 15:17:05 GMT, Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com> 
 Hi, Ashton.
If you'd like to contribute money to support NetBeans development, one way 
might be to purchase the time of an individual NetBeans developer or 
contracting firm. Maybe send an email on the d...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org 
mailing list saying "I am willing to pay $X to have issue number Y fixed". Or 
maybe something less specific, like "I am willing to pay $X to support 
improvements in an area of the developer's choice".
Keep in mind that the fully loaded cost of a software engineer with enough 
domain-specific skills to work on the NetBeans codebase is somewhere between 
$100-$300/hour, depending on the developer's location.
-- Eirik
From: Ashton Hogan <ashtonho...@ymail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 9:04 AM
To: "us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org" 
<us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>, Bertrand Delacretaz 
Subject: Re: Long Live NetBeans!

In theory yes but in practice as soon as someone comes along and uses a 
license, they grow and apache dies. Who wants to do business with dying 
dependencies? Answer: NO ONE
On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, 13:44:47 GMT, Bertrand Delacretaz 
<bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> ...That's what Apache NetBeans is all about,
> providing software development features to serve those who want to make use
> of them...

And that use might include making money with NetBeans - consulting,
training, selling specific plugins, that's all fine with the Apache

A few years ago, someone sold the source code of httpd as a printed
book, tagged as "the ultimate reference to httpd".

Not very useful IMO but ok w.r.t the Apache project, provided
trademarks are respected, the provenance of the works is clear and
appropriate credit is given. That's an extreme case of "embracing
capitalism" I guess, I hope people find better ways to make money from
our projects, but the ASF is basically friendly to business as long as
it happens elsewhere - so that we can stay (fiercely) independent.


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