On 2009/05/12 2:27 PM Barbara Duprey wrote:
* When you are first setting up to follow this list, you subscribe
via your personal gmail account, but see no list traffic on that
account (except maybe the confirmation email?). You also add the
newsgroup to your Gmane list of newsgroups to follow.
No. You add gmane.comp.openoffice.questions to the list of newgroups you
subscribe to in your newsreader. Anyone can read Gmane newsgroups. No
email is involved.
* You post to the newsgroup, initiating a thread or responding to a
newsgroup post.
The first time you post to a newsgroup, Gmane sends you an email for
confirmation to the email address you list in the account for Gmane you
set up on your newsreader.
* Gmane takes your post and sends a message via standard email
protocol to the list as "From" your gmail account, with the
"Sender" is identified as [email protected]. Apparently this email
generation is an internal process that doesn't involve gmail (as a
mail manager or server) at all. Right?
Right. It does not involve any email server. You can use any address,
not just a gmail address.
* Our list server receives the email. At this point, something
(always? sometimes?) inhibits it from appending the unsubscribe
trailer prior to posting it. How -- by checking the "Sender"
header? Apparently AOL is similar.Why interfere with this trailer,
since most recipients are receiving the email by the normal process?
Does it? Is the trailer included in this post? I have no way of
checking. It seems to me that inserting the trailer is totally the
responsibility of this list server.
* Messages are posted to the list. The list server generates emails
to the subscribed addresses, gmail and otherwise. Or does the list
server explicitly not send them to gmail (and similar) accounts?
That seems to require a coordination mechanism I wouldn't really
expect.
The list sends them to all subscribed email addresses, including gmail.
I used to receive them at my gmail address before I unsubscribed and
switched to using Gmane. The list also sends all messages to Gmane where
anyone can read them either online or by using a newsreader.
* If the emails are sent to your gmail account, Gmane apparently
intercepts and discards them without their being processed by the
gmail server at all, or perhaps gmail has a filter to discard them.
No emails are sent to my gmail account. Gmane does not intercept anything.
* Gmane apparently has its own subscription to the list and receives
a copy of the emails, since it creates only a single copy of the
message, stripping the unsubscribe trailer and creating a
newsgroup post for you and its other users of this newsgroup.
Gmane receives a copy of all posts to this list.
* If you decide to stop following the list, you remove it from your
Gmane newsgroup list but do not unsubscribe your gmail account.
Does Gmane unsubscribe you? If not, and the list server is
actually sending messages to you, that would seem to be wasteful
of resources.
There is nothing to unsubscribe. I would just delete
gmane.comp.openoffice.questions from the list of newsgroups I read.
Nothing is ever sent to me by the list server. I only get the messages I
choose to read in my newsgroup reader.
I can understand why you subscribe your gmail account, so that your
posts don't go through the moderator. But it's confusing that
apparently Gmane users never personally unsubscribe their gmail accounts.
We have never subscribe to the list from an email account, Gmail or
otherwise. If we posted directly to [email protected] our posts would
go through the moderator before being sent to the list.
--
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." -
Edgard Varese
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