Barbara Duprey wrote: > > Understood. But it looks from the outside as if the overall process is: > > * When you are first setting up to follow this list, you subscribe > via your personal gmail account, but see no list traffic on that
The email traffic is just the same as if I were using my email to read/post message to this email list. Using gmane in no way affects what I get (or what I can post from) my email address. Gmane works in parallel to my email, if you will. > account (except maybe the confirmation email?). You also add the > newsgroup to your Gmane list of newsgroups to follow. > * You post to the newsgroup, initiating a thread or responding to a > newsgroup post. > * Gmane takes your post and sends a message via standard email > protocol to the list as "From" your gmail account, with the > "Sender" is identified as [email protected]. Apparently this email > generation is an internal process that doesn't involve gmail (as a > mail manager or server) at all. Right? I think so. > * Our list server receives the email. At this point, something > (always? sometimes?) inhibits it from appending the unsubscribe > trailer prior to posting it. How -- by checking the "Sender" > header? Apparently AOL is similar.Why interfere with this trailer, > since most recipients are receiving the email by the normal process? Maybe, but I don't know anything what happens regarding the trailer here. > * Messages are posted to the list. The list server generates emails > to the subscribed addresses, gmail and otherwise. Or does the list > server explicitly not send them to gmail (and similar) accounts? > That seems to require a coordination mechanism I wouldn't really > expect. No, the list server sends messages the normal way. I think the list server is oblivious to gmane's presence. > * If the emails are sent to your gmail account, Gmane apparently > intercepts and discards them without their being processed by the > gmail server at all, or perhaps gmail has a filter to discard them. I don't think gmane touches any messages that go to the users' mail boxes. I suppose it just *mirrors* the email list in a newsgroup format. > * Gmane apparently has its own subscription to the list and receives > a copy of the emails, since it creates only a single copy of the > message, stripping the unsubscribe trailer and creating a > newsgroup post for you and its other users of this newsgroup. I do not know. Maybe it just reads the list itself to mirror it. The list is public, after all. > * If you decide to stop following the list, you remove it from your > Gmane newsgroup list but do not unsubscribe your gmail account. > Does Gmane unsubscribe you? If not, and the list server is > actually sending messages to you, that would seem to be wasteful > of resources. No, gmane has no control over unsubscription from the list. I don't think Gmane has any control over subscription/unsubscription to/from mailing lists. If one posts message via gmane (all can read via gmane though) without first having subscribed via email, message do not make it to the list. > > I can understand why you subscribe your gmail account, so that your > posts don't go through the moderator. But it's confusing that apparently I don't thin Gmane avoid the moderators in any way. > Gmane users never personally unsubscribe their gmail accounts. They do. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
