On Tue, 12 May 2009, Barbara Duprey wrote:
Or Gmane could strip the trailer. Or Gmane could retrieve posts from the archives, and then strip the trailer.

The archived posting has no trailer either; this is typical for ezmlm mailing list manager. So getting from archive is possible, and no stripping needed. However, with ezmlm, it is also easy to add an adapter, since all the mailing list processing steps are in .qmail "script" files.

The issue is that sometimes those of us receiving mail in the normal way do not see it on some posts we receive from some accounts. I've noticed this primarily with gmail, and sometimes with AOL, but it is not at all consistent.

Ah, I understand. This has nothing to do with Gmane, though. I think I can explain it for Gmail. Gmail will show e-mails in a thread in a thread view, so when there is a discussions in a mailing list the person subscribe, the e-mails will show up in Gmail in thread view.

In thread view, by default a response e-mail will have some text quoted from the replied e-mail hidden or more accurately reduce to a text button: "- Show quoted text -". If you click it, the hidden quote will show up. Not all quotes will be hidden, apparently only top / inline quotes which is too long (not sure the limit), and bottom quotes (which has no response - apparently to accomodate top poster).

To determine which text is quote, seemingly Gmail did not rely on text formatting (which prone to error), but using text comparison (some kind of diff after removing quote signs), so lines in a response e-mail contains texts also exist in replied e-mails will be considered a quote.

Now take a look at the trailer: it is exists in every e-mail, so in any response e-mail it will be considered a quote. It is at the bottom, so it will be hidden behind "- Show quoted text -".

So the unsubscribe trailer is in the e-mail, just may need to click "- Show quoted text -" at the bottom of the e-mail.

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