VACList-Digest Monday, December 24, 2001 Issue 160
Today's Topics:
1. help identify this unit
2. Re: help identify this unit
3. Re:
4. Re: help identify this unit
5. Re: 6 volt vs 12 volt???
6. Re: 6 volt vs 12 volt???
7. Re: 6 volt vs 12 volt???
8. Re: 6 volt vs 12 volt??? Happy Holidays!
9. Re: 6 volt vs 12 volt???
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Message Number: 1
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:28:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Jill Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help identify this unit
Could I please get some opinion on what this is?
I'm told it's a '59 caravel but the serial number
(though hard to see in this pic) looks like it
starts with "16" and wouldn't that mean it's a 16
foot model, which they didn't make in '59?
I also included the curbside shot. I can post
more pictures if it would help in identification.
http://www.geocities.com/jillhari/airstream.html
Jill
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Message Number: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:29:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Gregory Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help identify this unit
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If you look at the numbers under the "am" in Airstream you will see the build month
and year, can't really tell but looks like "1" and "56", so it would be a 1956.
Greg Paulsen
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<P>If you look at the numbers under the "am" in Airstream you will see the build month
and year, can't really tell but looks like "1" and "56", so it would be a 1956.</P>
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Message Number: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:35:27 -0500
From: "Wayne A. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
Hi all,
Just a Short Note To Wish You all a Happy and Healthy Holiday!
WAM
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Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 7:33 PM
Subject: [VAC]
> VACList-Digest Sunday, December 23, 2001 Issue 159
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: 12 volt 101
> 2. list of floorplans?
> 3. found it (list of floorplans)
> 4. Re: list of floorplans?
> 5. Re: '64 Overlander Windows
> 6. Re: '64 Overlander Windows
> 7. Re: '64 Overlander Windows
> 8. Re: 12 volt 101
> 9. Happy Christmas to All
> 10. Re: [A/S] Happy Christmas to All
> 11. Re: '64 Overlander Windows
> 12. 67 Airstream circuit breakers
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Message Number: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 08:55:47 -0800
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help identify this unit
Easy one. They are correct, it is a 1959 18 foot Ohio "Caravel". The serial
# is 18 D 0153, a format that puts it only in 1959. Depending on how the
workman stuck the indenter, you can get some awful looking numbers
sometimes.
You can tell it is a Ohio trailer vs a California "Traveler" by the peaked
wheelwell. It has a curbside bed in back (notice the location of the
storage compartment?), and it looks like someone has replaced the Bargman 99
taillights with some generic things. Notice the 7 panel ends? Post '57.
There never was an 18 footer with a nameplate, so the names are generally
accepted monikers obtained from Airstream catalogs and price sheets.
I have a couple of examples of 18 footers in the archive sections, and the
VAC catalogs in the members area from the late '50's has some floorplans &
Spec's.
Merry Christmas everyone!
RJ
VintageAirstream.com
> From: Jill Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:28:34 -0800 (PST)
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC] help identify this unit
>
> Could I please get some opinion on what this is?
> I'm told it's a '59 caravel but the serial number
> (though hard to see in this pic) looks like it
> starts with "16" and wouldn't that mean it's a 16
> foot model, which they didn't make in '59?
>
> I also included the curbside shot. I can post
> more pictures if it would help in identification.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jillhari/airstream.html
>
> Jill
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Message Number: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 18:24:55 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 6 volt vs 12 volt???
Dear Vac friends,
Perhaps some among you can help us with this question: Can we hook up our 6
volt 1946 mercury v8 wagon to our Airstream and while under tow will all the
driving light, turn signals, brake lights function? Will they function at a
dimmer level and be possibly unsafe? Thanks, Have a safe Christmas and new
year. Stuart and Bonnie.
* STUART MACARTHUR RESOR * ARCHITECT * 1268 BLUE SKY DRIVE * CARDIFF BY THE
SEA * CALIFORNIA * 92007-1005 * 760-753-8022 * FAX: 760-753-8058 *
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Message Number: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 17:39:11 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 6 volt vs 12 volt???
The dim glow of 12 volt lamps running on 6 volts will be hidden by the
colored lenses. UNSAFE!
There are probably 6 volt equivalents for all the 12 volt lamps, except
the dual filament ones for the stop/turn signals, though they won't be
easy to find.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 7
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 00:05:43 +0000
From: "Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 6 volt vs 12 volt???
Stuart and Bonnie,
Without knowing a bit more about your trailer, I would not attempt to power
the 12 volt running/driving/directional/brake lights off the car's 6 volt
system.
However, there is a simpler fix if you are only going to tow with the '46 Merc,
change the bulbs in the trailer external lights used while driving to 6
volt bulbs.
Do not change the bulbs in internal lights that run off the trailer's 12
volt battery.
Do not hook up the plus 12Vdc between the trailer battery and the car
battery/charging system... This would be a certain disaster. (just don't
run the
wire from the battery to the connector on the car). You will have to find
a heavy duty 6 Vdc flasher for the car.
If you plan to tow the trailer with both a vehicle with a 12 Vdc electrical
system
and the '48 Merc, this becomes a lot more complicated however, it can be done.
You will have to make or find someone to make for you a control box that uses
the trailer 12 Vdc battery to power the lights, but is controlled by the
'48 Merc
6 volt trailer hookup. Years ago, this would be done with relays, but now
days is better done with FET transistors. There may be a commercial
control device
available... Its a area I have not had to pursue in quite a few years.
Merry Chrristmas...
Mitch Hill - WA1YKN
At 18:24 12/24/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear Vac friends,
>
>Perhaps some among you can help us with this question: Can we hook up our 6
>volt 1946 mercury v8 wagon to our Airstream and while under tow will all the
>driving light, turn signals, brake lights function? Will they function at a
>dimmer level and be possibly unsafe? Thanks, Have a safe Christmas and new
>year. Stuart and Bonnie.
>
>* STUART MACARTHUR RESOR * ARCHITECT * 1268 BLUE SKY DRIVE * CARDIFF BY THE
>SEA * CALIFORNIA * 92007-1005 * 760-753-8022 * FAX: 760-753-8058 *
>
>
>
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Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill
Frank M. Hill Associates
176 Bumps River Rd.
Osterville, MA. 02655
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Message Number: 8
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:14:16 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 6 volt vs 12 volt??? Happy Holidays!
Stuart,
Is your 6 volt wagon positive ground? Does the trailer have 12V
brakes?. I have tried a six volt swap out on our trailer's light bulbs
(to match our 6v wagon) and the flash/wiring is not happy (even with
isolated ground wire). The end result is the lights on the trailer,
especially the brake lights are not visible in the day time and marginal
at night. Feel free to contact me off list for the trials and
tribulations of trying this set up.
Also is the Merc a flat head?
Paul
PS Happy Peaceful Holidays To All The VAC Folks. Paul & Vanessa #2580
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Message Number: 9
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 00:16:21 +0000
From: "Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 6 volt vs 12 volt???
Bonnie and Stuart,
After hitting the send button on my last message, it dawned on me, BRAKES???
How will you control and power the brakes ? If your trailer has some other
type
than electric brakes, you probably don't have too much of a problem, however,
if your trailer has 12 Vdc electric brakes, this could be the bigger
problem than
lights...
What is the trailer and brakes on it ?
Mitch Hill - WA1YKN...
At 18:24 12/24/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear Vac friends,
>
>Perhaps some among you can help us with this question: Can we hook up our 6
>volt 1946 mercury v8 wagon to our Airstream and while under tow will all the
>driving light, turn signals, brake lights function? Will they function at a
>dimmer level and be possibly unsafe? Thanks, Have a safe Christmas and new
>year. Stuart and Bonnie.
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