VACList-Digest       Sunday, December 23, 2001      Issue 159
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. Re: 12 volt 101
        2. list of floorplans?
        3. found it (list of floorplans)
        4. Re: list of floorplans?
        5. Re: '64 Overlander Windows
        6. Re: '64 Overlander Windows
        7. Re: '64 Overlander Windows
        8. Re: 12 volt 101
        9. Happy Christmas to All
       10. Re: [A/S] Happy Christmas to All
       11. Re: '64 Overlander Windows
       12. 67 Airstream circuit breakers




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Message Number: 1
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 18:44:49 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 12 volt 101

The overhead lights in my 1976 have a "+" to the light switch only. The
ground is the light base. I remember once when I took the light fixture down
for cleaning and replaced the bulbs. Before I screwed it back to the ceiling
I attached the "+" wire and turned it on, nothing happened. I then
reattached it  to the ceiling and it worked fine.

Maybe some of our other electrical gurus will tell us how all of this works.

Don Hardman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dunmyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 6:03 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: 12 volt 101


> Don,
>  The 12 volt clearance lights are grounded to the body, but the ones
> inside the coach (at least in our 1968) have/had a white/ground wire run
> to each light. Although I don't remember ever seeing the ground wire
> between battery and converter, it must have existed someplace.
>
>                               <<Jim>>
>
> Don Hardman wrote:
> >
> > Just to clear something up in my mind, the 12 volt lights receive "+"
power
> > direct from the battery/converter and the "-" wire is simply grounded to
the
> > frame. How is the connection loop completed? Is the "-"
battery/converter
> > cable simply attached to the frame at the battery box or where the
converter
> > is located. I think that is the way it works in a car, but I didn't know
for
> > sure about the A/S.
> >
> > Many thanks in advance to the VAC knowledge base.
> >
> > Merry Christmas and Happy new Years
> >
> > from
> >
> > Don and Pat Hardman
> > 1976 Sovereign
> >
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Message Number: 2
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:09:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Jill Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: list of floorplans?

does anyone remember where the link to the photos
of various airstreams and floorplans is? 

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Message Number: 3
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:12:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Jill Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: found it (list of floorplans)

Here it is if anyone else doesn't know about it:

http://www.vintageairstream.com/archives/index.html

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Message Number: 4
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:17:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Gregory Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: list of floorplans?

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Message Number: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:17:41 -0700
From: "Fred Coldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '64 Overlander Windows

Webmaster wrote:
> 
> OK, I'm stumped.  Don't think I've ever seen that type of mechanism in an
> Airstream - in houses, yes.  I think Fred Coldwell said he has something
> similar in his '64 Globetrotter, but I went back and reviewed the photo
> archives to see if I could find anything like that.  The '64 GT I have there
> has the conventional openers and bottom hook latches:
> http://www.VintageAirstream.com/archives/64GT/64GT.html
> 
> Anyone else out there have this type of mechanism?   Need a picture of it.
> Something new to learn!  You got my attention now...
> 
> RJ
> VintageAirstream.com
> 
  RJ:
  
   Looking at the '64 GT photos you linked in your message
above, the hold-tight latches are not at the bottom of the
inner window frame, but are at the lower sides of the inner
window frame.  So I just double-
checked my trailer again, and there is no evidence that any
hold-tight latches were ever installed on the lower inner
sides of the window frames in my 1964 GT, as shown in your
photos. Perhaps mine is a 4:30 p.m. Friday afternoon-built
trailer??  
   
   My window opening mechanisms look the same, but my crank
handles are more like a "T" than like the ones shown.    

Fred C.


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Message Number: 6
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:51:51 -0500
From: Chris Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '64 Overlander Windows

Ted has described the windows on mine well , I`ll see if I can get apicture to
you , RJ. They really dont work very well ,my cranks turn ok ,but the rod
mechanism lets one side close first ,and the other side needs a little help to
shut tight .Not as nice as the older ones with cranks on each side ,and latches
,but I suppose it was looked on as an improvement at the time as you only had to
turn one handle.
Chris 64 0verlander

Webmaster wrote:          Anyone else out there have this type of mechanism?
Need a picture of it.

> Something new to learn!  You got my attention now...
>
> RJ
> VintageAirstream.com
>
> > From: "T. Byrd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > A picture is worth a thousand words, or so the saying goes,
> > unfortunately I don't have a picture, so I'll try to describe the
> > mechanism in less than a thousand words. :)  There is a small, square
> > mechanism, in the upper right inside corner of each window.  A single
> > crank extends from this square mechanism, on the inside of the coach.
> > Coming out of the side of the mechanism, there is a rod, about 1/2" in
> > diameter, that runs the length of the window at the top.  Attached to
> > this rod, there are two arms, one on each side of the window that rotate
> > with the rod when the crank is turned. These arms slide in channels in
> > the window frame.  I assume, since there are no latches, that the
> > windows are held in place by the crank mechanism. I just find it odd
> > that the cranks work to open the windows, and hold them open, but won't
> > hold them closed.
> > -Ted
>




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Message Number: 7
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:09:21 -0500
From: Chris Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '64 Overlander Windows

I think the fix for mine is going to be to rotate the arms slightly on the rod
so that the non crank side has a bit more tension on it , I think the rod may
have torsionized over the years .
   I have never tried to force them open from outside , so I dont know if they
will open that way , as far as security is concerned . But there isnt any latch
,for sure.
Chris






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Message Number: 8
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:20:25 -0500
From: Jim Dunmyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 12 volt 101

Don,
 It appears as though your '76 coach is different from our '68 in that
regard.

Naturally, only one wire to a light will go through the switch, and it'd
normally be the "hot" or "+". The ground or "-" goes from the battery to
the light, with no switches and normally, no fuses, in the run. There's
nothing to stop A/S from using the metal skin(s) as the '-' conductor,
and that's apparently how your coach is built.

                                    <<Jim>>

Don Hardman wrote:
> 
> The overhead lights in my 1976 have a "+" to the light switch only. The
> ground is the light base. I remember once when I took the light fixture down
> for cleaning and replaced the bulbs. Before I screwed it back to the ceiling
> I attached the "+" wire and turned it on, nothing happened. I then
> reattached it  to the ceiling and it worked fine.
> 
> Maybe some of our other electrical gurus will tell us how all of this works.
> 
> Don Hardman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Dunmyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 6:03 PM
> Subject: [VAC] Re: 12 volt 101
> 
> > Don,
> >  The 12 volt clearance lights are grounded to the body, but the ones
> > inside the coach (at least in our 1968) have/had a white/ground wire run
> > to each light. Although I don't remember ever seeing the ground wire
> > between battery and converter, it must have existed someplace.
> >
> >                               <<Jim>>
> >
> > Don Hardman wrote:
> > >
> > > Just to clear something up in my mind, the 12 volt lights receive "+"
> power
> > > direct from the battery/converter and the "-" wire is simply grounded to
> the
> > > frame. How is the connection loop completed? Is the "-"
> battery/converter
> > > cable simply attached to the frame at the battery box or where the
> converter
> > > is located. I think that is the way it works in a car, but I didn't know
> for
> > > sure about the A/S.
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance to the VAC knowledge base.
> > >
> > > Merry Christmas and Happy new Years
> > >
> > > from
> > >
> > > Don and Pat Hardman
> > > 1976 Sovereign
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> > > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
> > >
> > > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
> > >
> > >
> >
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Message Number: 9
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:17:53 -0500
From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Happy Christmas to All

 http://sitedezine.com/JLCards/xmas2001.htm
May the blessings of this holiday season be with you all, for always.

Pam, Matt and family.

--
Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign,
1976 24' Argosy (rear door)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow




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Message Number: 10
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:41:47 -0500
From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [A/S] Happy Christmas to All

Sorry folks, but that link must have expired.
try:
        http://www.found-pets.org/JLCards/xmas2001.htm

Matt Worner wrote:

>  http://sitedezine.com/JLCards/xmas2001.htm
> May the blessings of this holiday season be with you all, for always.
>
> Pam, Matt and family.
>
> --
> Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
> WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
> 1975 31' Sovereign,
> 1976 24' Argosy (rear door)
> 2000 F-350 PSD
> Hensley Arrow
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, go to 
>http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/AirstreamList/ and unsubscribe. To suspend delivery 
>while traveling, simply change the delivery option to No Mail-Web only.
>
>
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--
Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign,
1976 24' Argosy (rear door)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow




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Message Number: 11
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:10:27 -0800
From: Tuna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '64 Overlander Windows

i had a sudden recollection of my '65 Globetrotter's windows... it had no
latches, only a crank. at some point, the crank on one 'stopped working' in
the way you described: it would push the window open, but would not hold it
closed... the crank mechanism has a 'worm-gear' type of thing, and had
become detached at the extreme end of its travel... in other words, by
over-tightening it, i'd pulled the end of the crank from its attachment
point on the window... so, it would still push the window open, and gravity
would allow the window to close when cranked down, but wouldn't hold it
closed... is that as clear as mud?

Happy Holidays!
Tuna

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Elliott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:09 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: '64 Overlander Windows


> I think the fix for mine is going to be to rotate the arms slightly on the
rod
> so that the non crank side has a bit more tension on it , I think the rod
may
> have torsionized over the years .
>    I have never tried to force them open from outside , so I dont know if
they
> will open that way , as far as security is concerned . But there isnt any
latch
> ,for sure.
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 12
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:55:30 -0500
From: "DH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 67 Airstream circuit breakers

Hello,
Does anyone know if the old style 20 amp DC circuit breakers are still
available?  If so where might they be sold?  Thanks, Dave H



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