# Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

```I have the original billet and all three axises are wound with the suggested
length of wire (170 feet).```
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I welcome any suggestions and directions.

I am not skilled with AC circuits, but I have significant experience with high
voltage pulsed systems.

I will take it to my grave that the Manelas system worked and that we were not
fooled. I just do not know how to proceed.

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From: Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:25 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

There is a class of devices known as "magnetic amplifiers" that were used in
the 40's and 50's as a reliable means of power control before the transistor
became available.  Somewhere I think I have a book or report on how these
devices were designed and used.  This device relied on the nonlinear B-H
characteristic of the magnetic core and was able to use a small DC current to
control a much larger AC current.  Here is a Wikipedia link for magnetic
amplifiers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_amplifier
Magnetic amplifier - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_amplifier>
en.wikipedia.org
The magnetic amplifier (colloquially known as a "mag amp") is an
electromagnetic device for amplifying electrical signals. The magnetic
amplifier was invented early ...

The Manelas device may have created an over-unity magnetic amplifier effect.
Where the energy for over-unity comes from is, as Brian suggests, completely
open.  It could be some kind of coupling to the ZPE.  For those of us who
believe that Don Hotson had it right in his description of the epo ether (based
on solution to Dirac's equation), the magnetic field may provide a means to
couple to the Dirac sea ether.  This ether is also coupled to everything else,
including the Earth, and sun.  Perhaps the Manelas device is coupling energy
out of the Earth's rotation or revolution around the sun - who knows.

If Brian has witnessed clear over-unity behavior, it sounds like a phenomenon
worth investigation.  But... we have to be careful.  I had a lab technician
declare that the L-C matching circuit he was working on had produced
over-unity, when in fact, it only had voltage gain and no power gain (actually
a small loss).  It sounds from Brian's description of energy being taken out
continuously for a long period of time that actual power gain was observed.

Bob Higgins

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Brian Ahern
<ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> wrote:

I think we LENRers have too many preconceptions about the mechanism. I am

The large billet with its conditioned fields seems to be the central item.
There were three sets of orthoganol windings. Presumably a signal was admitted
to one or two of them and amplified power  coming from the third winding.

It is acting as a transformer that is extracting energy from the magnetic
interactions.
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