I am a very passionate person about a few things - and sometimes I don't know why. Tango is one of them. It is unique. I also tend to be very opinionated - that didn't always come out when I worked for PVSW since I tended to be quite corporate there :)
Those things I mentioned may not be what an average web application user uses (since I think the average one is ASP/PHP driven), but once you've used them in .NET or elsewhere such as CF - they really make life simple in so many areas. The issue is that some of the features are key to me - specifically web services - as I build more automated features into our website as well as working with our reseller. Granted, I've been the one pushing our retailers to allow registration/serial number generation through web services to provide the best user experience, as well as tying into their engines in our site through web services - but either way, its something that I really do need. The other part is that I still consult to quite a few Austin based enterprises (you know, the ones that buy $100k worth of hardware for a website alone or $1mil for one single software/consulting deal) and they all HAD tango stuff running and have moved to .NET. Now Tango is probably never going to be on their radar again - but who knows? The other issue is cost. .NET is about $1k in costs. Windows server license - about $500. Visual Studio.NET (which is an awesome IDE...) - anywhere from $99 to $699 in stores. Or of course if you already have a Windows server...anywhere from free to $699 for the IDE. Using that IDE, I can built almost the same kind of apps that I can in Tango in some cases far less time - and in some cases more. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. But .NET runs very fast; has data caching; industrial strength sessions states - and best of all - a true programming language that doesn't stop you from anything. Problem is - no cross platform support (yet) and it doesn't feel like home. There is just something about Tango's design that I still love. But I want to see it grow up. I don't like to sit here and wonder if it will do what I want it to do - and I also don't have time to do that. I want to know if I should just stop even thinking about it - or :) Now, the ability to export to J2ee is what intrigues me because then - if its editable - I can write most of the app in Tango and export to j2ee for the more complex pieces. Granted, I couldn't then edit it in Tango again - and that's a big issue. But once the featureset is announced, I can then sit back and make a decision. -- Alex Kac, CEO/Developer Innovation in Personal and Business Information Management http://www.pocketinformant.com/ zoomzoom > From: Garth Penglase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:03:38 +1000 > To: Multiple recipients of list witango-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witangov5 ?? Vaporware? > > Well, it would be sad to see you go Alex, since you would be a valued > developer on this list, particularly with your programming efforts in the > PIM area, so I hope that you find enough in the new version to keep you > interested. I would have thought that some of the items mentioned in your > wish-list were a bit beyond what the "average" developer (if there is such > a thing) would be expecting, I would have thought, but they certainly would > take the product a long way further than the previous incarnation and would > be exciting additions. I do think that even if the product doesn't live up > to these expectations initially, the extension of its legendary ease-of-use > and new speed and stability, along with the advancements already mentioned > (j2ee etc..) must make it worth consideration for the majority of us. > > I must say I think that if you went it would be a duller list as well - the > number of emails in this thread has got to be a record, and you certainly > have made life a little more interesting on the list! > cheers > Garth ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body
