Jarvis, Your negative mailing has exactly the flavor of ego-rich know-all arrogance I don't like.
I took a vulnerable attitude by asking a question in a rather open way, perhaps even naive. I took that open attitude to provoke all kinds of answers and thoughts, including those I did not think of. Thanks by the way to those who replied to my post with those answers! You obviously take this open attitude as a weak attitude; an attitude of someone who does not know. And someone you can attack. And you do attack in a very strong way, by insinuating I am a drug addict and read a Zen book between bongs. How pity you are. You see someone weak and start kicking him. I don't brag about my Zen knowledge. I don't think I am a Zen expert. But for your information: I practice Zazen for some two years now and go sometimes to a Zen practice Centre. I read Zen books although my emphasis is on practicing Zazen. But I am defending myself now which is something I did not intend to do. Although I don't claim to be a Zen expert, I do think about how to incorporate Zen in my life. I do that in different ways beside practicing Zazen - by reading books, thinking, discussing ... I decided to try a new way for me, namely posting in a Zen forum. I think this forum is a right forum for my question. If I may quote from the forum's homepage: "This list is for sharing ideas, zazen techniques, Sesshin experiences, etc. Discussions can be intense and illuminating. Zen Book Discussion is recommended such as Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind;..." So I don't follow you if you advise me to go away. If other people in this list feel I should go away or shut up, please let me know, with arguments. And just to be sure: I have never said or insinuated that Zen is just "anything goes" - in the contrary. I stop here because I don't want to spend more words and time on your posting than on the other, more positive and stimulating, postings. Eugene --- In [email protected], "Jarvis Stamply" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: "Eugene" <> Everyone multi-tasks all the time. I think the discussion > is not on > > multi-tasking or not, but on the degree of multi-tasking. This makes > > the discussion more complex than simply saying "don't!". > > > > You can do whatever you want, just don't shine anyone on by calling it Zen. > Everything may be Zen in the grand scheme of things, but you won't be > practicing mindfulness, or Zen. > > Zen is not just "anything goes." That is the easy BS for the slackers, drug > addicts, and other assorted losers that are attracted to Zen and other > pseudo-religions that are outside of the mainstream. > > Anyone self-interpreting their own religion has a fool for a teacher. Anyone > who has the same credentials as a K-Mart stock clerk and is claiming to have > a "philosophy" has been hitting the crack-pipe, heroin, and/or ecstacy tabs > too often. > > If you have been to a real Zen Center and have practiced Zen with the > guidance of a teacher and have some legitimate experiences to relate, please > post them. If you are just reading a Zen book at home between hits from the > bong, then please go away. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
