Edgar, I guess the picture you are reproducing belongs to the Hinayana tradition or early Mahayana, it may be a Gandhara statue.
When Buddhism spread out in all directions from the north of India, the teaching arrived also in nowadays' Pakistan and Afghanistan. Since Alexander the Great (the Greek military leader who had defeated Persia), states with Greek culture had been persisting in that area. The Greeks had always been good sculptors and they made their statues in their traditional Greek way. This is why they would start to carve Buddha statues after they had got in contact with Buddhism. And they carved the Buddha with a traditional Greek hairstyle -- what seems like a helmet to you. One may speculate that it was the ascetic Buddha before his enlightenment who made the strongest impression on those believers, so they liked this ascetic appearance. When Buddhism later arrived in China, the Chinese preferred another look and made what you call the "fat guy" sculptures. Seems the ascetic appearance did no impress them so much. Gasshoo, Kai "Fitness63" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] uth.net> An Gesendet von: <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie oups.com Thema Re: [Zen] Re: JUDO 12.09.2008 14:04 Bitte antworten an [EMAIL PROTECTED] oups.com (Embedded image moved to file: pic18467.jpg) Did those guys wear helmets? It seems like all those sculpts have the same helmet. BTW, he looks really skinny, did he have to sit during the sculpture? Looks like he should have made friends with Bodhidharma's staff. So who is the fat guy? I thought that was Buddha? Sitting without getting exercise is not good. He was definitely living out of balance. Edgar . (Embedded image moved to file: pic06334.gif) ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/