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--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mayka,
>  
> To be more exact, you are saying your mind is in complete control 
of your body, when you do the breathing in and breathing out.
>  
> Let us not discuss whether the mind is the same as the body or not. 
It is one of the fourteen questions that defies an answer. It would 
be 'unwholesome' to continue the argument here.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Mayka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> From: Mayka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Question?
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 5:59 PM
> 
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> 
> Anthony;
> 
> There is no contradition in the Teachings of the Buddha. The Buddha 
> gives directions or guidelines to be followed. Guidelines, 
directions 
> are not exactly the same as Catethisms. With a direction you are 
the 
> one who drive the car. With a catethism someone else drives you 
> wherever the driver wants to drive you. 
> 
> Immagine that you would like to go to a place in your car you 
didn't 
> know were it was. Then you would need to have a map, paying 
> attention to the motorway direction so that you didn't get lost. 
You 
> don't start to collect the sign direcitons and putting in your car, 
> you would just follow them. If during your trip to the place you 
> want to go a direction tells you to turn right, then you turn 
right. 
> More ahead another direction tells you to turn left, then you turn 
> left. More ahead the direction tells you to go straight, then you 
go 
> straight. You don't start to get confusse and think that there was 
a 
> contradition as the motorway sign was telling you to turn on you 
> right right, second on left and third straight, do you?. 
> 
> In response to your question;
> 
> When we breathe in the awareness of the in and out breath the body 
> and the mind are automatically one. 
> 
> Mayka
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote:
> >
> > Mayka,
> >  
> > So you are saying you had an experience that your mind was one 
with 
> your body. So Buddha's two sayings contradict each other. Right?
> >  
> > Regards,
> > Anthony
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, Mayka <flordeloto@ ...> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Mayka <flordeloto@ ...>
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Question?
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
> > Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:21 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anthony;
> > 
> > The Buddha also said:
> > "Do not believe in anything I say but first experience it by 
> > yourself".
> > 
> > 
> > Mayka
> > 
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Edgar and Mayka,
> > >  
> > > Please be reminded that the question whether the mind is the 
same 
> > as or different from the body is one not worth answering, 
according 
> > to Buddha.
> > >  
> > > Regards,
> > > Anthony
> > > 
> > > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@ ..> wrote:
> > > 
> > > From: Edgar Owen <edgarowen@ ..>
> > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Question?
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 9:25 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mayka,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I used the term because it is from Zen or Buddhist writings. A 
> > constant reminder of its eventual fate.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Edgar
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> > > 
> > > On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Mayka wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > Edgar;
> > > 
> > > If you're aware of the activities of the body, the mind is also 
> > doing 
> > > its own activity by being aware. The mind in this case is 
not 
> > > separated from your body. The mind in this case is involved 
with 
> > the 
> > > body because its one with it. 
> > > 
> > > Mayka
> > > 
> > > --- In Zen_Forum@ yahoogrou ps.com, Edgar Owen 
<edgarowen@ ..> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mayka,
> > > > 
> > > > The walking corpse is the physical body.
> > > > 
> > > > Edgar
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Nov 3, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Mayka wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@ yahoogrou ps.com, Edgar Owen 
> <edgarowen@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mayka,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let the breath breathe itself, let the heart choose its 
own
> > > > > rhythm,
> > > > > > let the feet take you of their own accord. Just be 
mindful 
> > in 
> > > the
> > > > > > moment,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes Edgar. This is the way of living in awareness the 
present
> > > > > moment. You're just saying here above. This is the way I've 
> been
> > > > > doing in and off my practice through the years.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The walking corpse takes care of most things perfectly 
well 
> by
> > > > > itself
> > > > > > without any necessary involvement of the true mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Edgar;
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean by saying "The walking corpse"?. Which 
> walking
> > > > > corpse are you refering to?. If you refer when one walks 
> without
> > > > > mindfulness and therefore unaware of anything, and walking, 
> > moving
> > > > > in forgetfulness then, yes you're right of calling it a 
> walking
> > > > > corpse. I call it also a zombie.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mayka
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