TNH uses this term to help the meditator to be in touch with the
beauty that happens simultaneously with ugliness in the present
moment. Wonderful moment it is used to touch in the meditator the
good seeds that sometimes in moments of distress may be hidden in the
consciousness. So that the meditator has a chance to choose his/her
Before going ahead now and in the future, I'd like to point it out
first that my comments about Present moment/ Wonderful Moment is my
own direct experience on this subject. Some of the sayings over my
comments may not have being said directly in words by TNH. Zen
Teachers give us just guidelines and then the meditator do the rest.
With concentration and insight one opens the "mistery" involved
behind the words of Zen Masters. What I'm trying to say is that, the
experience of a person is not necessary the experience of other
person . TNH is the guideline, then practice, concentration and
insight do the rest.
Nevertheless as this late postings over this subject have to do with
his teachings, I'll be sending them to his Home Monastery. Of course
there is no guarantee that he'll be reading or having the post. And
not certainly would be any response from them. I'd like to point it
out that I'm one of TNH students who never chose to be his student.
What makes me his student is that I'm very receptive to his teaching
and nothing else. I don't like very much the majority of TNH internet
groups and nor his worldwide local lay sanghas because there is
something false about them and also because they make from the Master
a kind of "God Zen Buddhist Guru" and consequently there is no place
for anything else but just the SELF Master. I rather have the best
from his Buddha nature.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It worked! Your email was not classified as SPAM! Thank you for
thinking of and using this alternative.
> If THN is using the word âwonderfulâ to describe that the
Present Moment is âfull of wonderâ, full of âI donât knowâ,
âawe-inspiringâ, then I agree with him and remove my objection.
> If, however, THN is using âwonderfulâ to mean âgoodâ as
opposed to âbadâ, then he has missed the mark.
> When you are in great distress or despair and are feeling sad, the
Present Moment is Sad! The entire universe is Sad! There is only
Sadness, nothing else. Solemente Triste! This wouldnât mean the
Sad Present Moment is not Wonderful - full of wonder, nor preclude
you from fully appreciating the Present Moment.
> That is my understandingâ¦Bill!
> From: Maria Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Question?
> I'm sorry to hear that whoever is the Administrator or Moderator on
> this website has not fixed yet the problem with the post. Perhaps we
> don't have anyone as Administrator or Moderator on this website!.
> only way I can think for you to have my post is to write in the
> website and also to send to your personal email address the post.
> Perhaps Mike Brown could do the same meantime. Once you receive our
> both post throgh the group let us know and we'll stop sending you
> post twice your personal email and to the group.
> I write to you from the website now. Mayka is in Vasque language the
> short name for Maria Carmen. The name written in my post will be
> Maria Lopez. I'm saying this so that you can identify me better and
> don't put me on the spam.
> There is not a misleading in the meditation step saying "Present
> moment/ wonderful moment". In order to see it, one needs to
> penetrate it like a diamond cutting through illusion. Years ago, I
> used to wonder like yourself the same question. By sitting down many
> times with it specially in moments in which the last thing I felt
> present moment as a wonderful moment; I gradually started to tame
> irritation that such a statement produced in me specially in moments
> of great distress and despair. Instead of trying to see the meaning
> of it, or allowing the intelectual, discriminative mind getting into
> the way. I just sit down with the "koan":
> Breathing in for I dwell in the present moment - Present moment
> Breathing our for I know it's a wonderful moment - Wonderful moment
> My foundings through the years have been many on this. It was and it
> is a wonderful moment because I felt and feel alive. I'm aware of
> being alive. Being alive was a miracle by itself. The part of
> wonderful moment helped me to choose whatever state of mind I want
> be in. It helps to see, touch, smell, sense...all the many wonders
> of life ocurring at the present moment. This is also why the present
> moment is wonderful. It wouldn't be as wonderful without awareness
> and freedom of choosing whatever we want to be.
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