ED;
 
That hating must be in American Chistians, not in heatlhy Cristians from 
Europe.  (though there are always the crazy ones all over the world) .  I was 
brought up as a catholic and never hated myself. Thought there was a lack of 
proper education how to love oneselves and others at the same time.  Do you 
know that some years ago I had an interesting conversation with a retired, very 
well educated Jesuit Priest?.  Our conversation gave him inspiration to create 
several sermons all that week.  
 
Mayka


--- On Fri, 13/8/10, ED <[email protected]> wrote:


From: ED <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] EGO
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 13 August, 2010, 18:19


  





This 'hating oneself' - or others - is a very Judeo-Christian attitude
that permeates our culture.

This identification of the (non-existent?) self with our thoughts and
feelings, like the smell of garlic, can be quite difficult to eliminate.

And, of course, that's where zazen comes in handy.

--ED

--- In [email protected], "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <j...@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Mayka,
>
> I used to feel the same way. I actually hated myself. Then I was
reading a
> book by the Dalai Lama and he said that he found the whole concept of
people
> hating themselves to be so alien and he couldn't understand it at all.
>
> I started to really think about that and I realized how he was so
right. I
> was able to break through my own self hate and now I actually LIKE
myself.
> Of course, when you like yourself you like everyone around you a lot
more
> too.
>
> JODY






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