I can only put my fear (and sorrow) this way...
Batty: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@...> wrote: > > DP, > > Why on earth would anyone be worried about death? After all you won't be > around or conscious to experience it! Remember you were dead before you were > born. Do you worry about not being alive before you were born? Of course not. > Then why worry about being dead after you're dead? Same thing exactly. You'll > be in exactly the same state, or rather no state at all. Death is entirely an > illusion and an illusory fear. > > And even if you are still worried about death the best answer to that is > simply to immerse yourself completely in the present moment and enjoy it and > forget death. After all death doesn't exist. That is your death will never > exist for you. All that will ever exist for you is life! > > Edgar > > > > On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:11 PM, DP wrote: > > > > > I will check them out. I appreciate your words. I guess I was frustrated > > with other zen groups, where I only received vague platitudes and > > rhetorical questions along the lines of "why be afraid of death?" Which I > > understand but have a problem implementing. > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Rose P <things_rose@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi DP > > >  > > > I've read your posts and the replies you've gotten with interest. I don't > > > have much information, zen wise, to offer with regards death and the > > > fear of it, although I do *get* where you're coming from. Some of the > > > others will hopefully post on this subject perhaps. What I have found > > > extremely useful is the site www.dharmaseed.org. I try to listen to at > > > least one talk a day. In terms of repetitive, troublesome thoughts, > > > there are some fairly good talks given by a teacher called Gloria > > > Ambrosia. I've only been using the site for a month or so, so I'm sure > > > there's a wealth of other stuff on there that could be checked out, and > > > might be of some use. > > >  > > > Take care, > > >  > > > Rose > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 8/29/10, DP <dave.dplatt72@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: DP <dave.dplatt72@> > > > Subject: [Zen] Death > > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 2:59 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ARe there any good meditations I can do which helps me deal with my fear > > > of death? I just finished Thich Nhat Hanh's No Death No Fear, and I liked > > > it, but I feel such a hard time getting around the idea of continuance - > > > it's too much for my materialist mind. So maybe I need a different tack... > > > > > > How do I confront the reality of death with the aim towards lessening my > > > fear of this? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/