I can only put my fear (and sorrow) this way...

Batty: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off 
the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the 
Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in 
rain... Time to die. 


--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@...> wrote:
>
> DP,
> 
> Why on earth would anyone be worried about death? After all you won't be 
> around or conscious to experience it! Remember you were dead before you were 
> born. Do you worry about not being alive before you were born? Of course not. 
> Then why worry about being dead after you're dead? Same thing exactly. You'll 
> be in exactly the same state, or rather no state at all. Death is entirely an 
> illusion and an illusory fear.
> 
> And even if you are still worried about death the best answer to that is 
> simply to immerse yourself completely in the present moment and enjoy it and 
> forget death. After all death doesn't exist. That is your death will never 
> exist for you. All that will ever exist for you is life!
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:11 PM, DP wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I will check them out. I appreciate your words. I guess I was frustrated 
> > with other zen groups, where I only received vague platitudes and 
> > rhetorical questions along the lines of "why be afraid of death?" Which I 
> > understand but have a problem implementing.
> > 
> > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Rose P <things_rose@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi DP
> > > Â 
> > > I've read your posts and the replies you've gotten with interest. I don't 
> > > have much information, zen wise, to offer with regards death and the 
> > > fear of it, although I do *get* where you're coming from. Some of the 
> > > others will hopefully post on this subject perhaps. What I have found 
> > > extremely useful is the site www.dharmaseed.org. I try to listen to at 
> > > least one talk a day. In terms of repetitive, troublesome thoughts, 
> > > there are some fairly good talks given by a teacher called Gloria 
> > > Ambrosia. I've only been using the site for a month or so, so I'm sure 
> > > there's a wealth of other stuff on there that could be checked out, and 
> > > might be of some use.
> > > Â 
> > > Take care, 
> > > Â 
> > > Rose
> > > Â 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Sun, 8/29/10, DP <dave.dplatt72@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: DP <dave.dplatt72@>
> > > Subject: [Zen] Death
> > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 2:59 PM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Â  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ARe there any good meditations I can do which helps me deal with my fear 
> > > of death? I just finished Thich Nhat Hanh's No Death No Fear, and I liked 
> > > it, but I feel such a hard time getting around the idea of continuance - 
> > > it's too much for my materialist mind. So maybe I need a different tack...
> > > 
> > > How do I confront the reality of death with the aim towards lessening my 
> > > fear of this?
> > >
> > 
> >
>




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