Hi JMJM,

All you can tcorrectly assert is that you have experiened something. You
cannot all by yourself tell whether what you have experienced is samadhi
or kensho.

--ED



--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming  wrote:
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> I don't have any position. These are my personal experience. You could
> have your personal experience. Each journey of ours is unique. Each
> journey is precious. What is yours? However you say it is, it is not.
> Diamond sutra already repeated this over and over with 5,000 words for
> this simple statement. Everything is not what it is. It just is.
>
> Spiritual journey is a pure internal witness without any shape or
form.
> No matter how we try to describe, it is incomplete and never it.
>
> Buddha is inside us and not outside. Awakening got to come from
inside.
>
> Instead of quoting the sutra, my Teacher always say, "practice and you
> shall witness. Don't take my word for it."
>
> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
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> > JMJM,
> >
> > Do you have a reference to support you position that kensho is prior
to samadhi?
> >
> > Thanks, ED




> > > JMJM,
> > >
> > > You say: " Kensho" is resulted from sitting, which is a state
before
> > Samadhi"
> >
> > > I think kensho results from sitting and it is a state after
samadhi.

> > That is what most people think. If you think otherwise, perhaps you
had
> > a unique experience.
> >
> > > I bow back to you.
> > >
> > > Anthony


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