To my knowledge zen or even Zen Buddhism has ever proactively sought new
members.  In fact many of the historical stories relate that Zen Masters
have set barriers up to make sure that new students are really earnest about
pursuing zen.

Most Zen Buddhist centers today don't set up any barriers and might even
subtly solicit new members, but I think the majority of zen students become
students the same way you describe by reading or from hearing about zen via
word-of-mouth.  They then come, give it a try and if they like it they stay.
If they don't they try something else.

Zen Buddhists certainly do not actively proselytize like Christians are well
known to do.

Do you know or have opinions on how Jews, Muslims, Hindus, etc..., go about
attracting new members?  Muslims must to something because I keep hearing
that Islam is the fastest growing religion.


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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 8:46 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] New Member


In my case, a long time ago I was in great mental suffering and confusion. I
accidentally discovered Zen literature and took to it. I did group zazen and
private Zazen and enjoyed both - as well as the chanting, rituals,
discipline and non-rational stories.
Therefore, if anyone were looking for a path to 'salvation', had become
aware of Zen, and asked me for my 'advice', I would say: Certainly, try it,
you might like it.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <billsm...@...> wrote:

Others don't automatically have to embrace zen or Buddhism, or Christianity
or Judaism or Humanism or Materialism, etc... It's only if these 'others'
are dissatisfied or disappointed with their life that they might seek a



That may well be the case.
Does it automatically follow that others ought to spend enormous amounts of
time and energy attempting to attain the same mind-state, and if so, why?
> Ed,
> I am convinced that I have met, interacted with and witnessed several
> modern-day zen masters that were able to hold Buddha Mind in their
> everyday
> life: Koyru Roshi, Maezumi Roshi, Dae Soen Sa Nim and Tetsugen (Bernard
> Glassman) Roshi before he was a Roshi and was the Senior Monk at ZCLA
> under
> Maezumi Roshi immediately come to mind. This is not to say I believe they
> held Buddha Mind 24x7, but certainly could move to that stage pretty much
> whenever they chose to do so.
> I have also interacted with many (100's) others that could hold Buddha
> Mind
> in varying degrees of a controlled environment - like performing their
> housekeeping jobs in the zen center, or while they are at a supermarket
> shopping for groceries.
> ...Bill!

> Bill,
> How would one recognize a Buddha Mind in the real world? Has there been or
> is there any roshi  in America who has been an exemplar on how to manifest
> Buddha Nature in the real world?
> --ED 

> > Lana,
> >
> > There are times that quietude and solitude are helpful in zen practice,
> > especially in the beginning. But eventually you have to bring your
> > practice
> > into the 'real world'. Zen is everyday life. You should be able to
> > maintain Buddha Mind in the middle of Times Square New York City during
> > rush
> > hour just as well as in a cave in Tibet.
> >
> > ...Bill!

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