Re: Upgrading SLES8 to SLES10 with Oracle 9

2007-11-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
Depends on your bureaucracy for getting a new server into
production... And how difficult the clients can be :)
WAS is behaved now in versions  5.
Oracle, haven't tried that one --- but I would hope it doesn't do that!
DB2 is ok with it.



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  And my favorite step of all:
 7) Find all the hardcoded IP addresses in client setups and fix them
to
 point to the DNS name... 8-)
 Nah, skip that stuff and have the new server steal the name and IP of 
 the old one (after you shut it down first).  We do a lot of that :)

Makes it harder to test thoroughly, though. You also get the unmatched
thrill of finding all the places that the Oracle install utility wrote
IP addresses into scripts, and in WAS configs, and in Many Other Stupid
and Undocumented Places. More fun than I'm allowed to have these days. 

Easier to fix the clients. They'll call you and tell you where it's
broken. Then you get to yell at them for hardcoding addresses. Much more
attractive fun. 8-)

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Re: Upgrading SLES8 to SLES10 with Oracle 9

2007-11-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
 6) Update DNS to point to the SLES 10 system. 

 And my favorite step of all:

7) Find all the hardcoded IP addresses in client setups and fix them to
point to the DNS name... 8-)


Nah, skip that stuff and have the new server steal the name and IP of
the old one (after you shut it down first).  We do a lot of that :)


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Re: SLES10 SP1 Starter system

2007-11-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
One of my guys did it - I don't think he had any issues with it.

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Subject: [LINUX-390] SLES10 SP1 Starter system

Has anyone on the list tried installing the SLES10 SP1 starter system?
I'm trying it for the first time and its going OK except for one
problem.
The 151 disk image, NOV151 VMARC, won't unpack.  It churned all
yesterday afternoon on our z/9 and never finished.  So, I moved it over
to our development machine and let it churn all night, still it isn't
done.  Its a 2G file, so I expected it to take a long time, but this is
crazy.  Has anyone gotten this to work?

I'm under the gun for a deadline right now, so can't afford to wait if
this isn't going to work.

Martha

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Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z

2007-11-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
Hey Mark and David(and others).

Does this guy work for upgrading a sles9x (SP3+) server to SLES 10 SP1?
 
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for IBM System z

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Re: Stupid newbie question re: Installing SP1 to SLES10 on z/890

2007-11-28 Thread Marcy Cortes

Mark wrote:
Which ever way you go, you'll need to rummage through your system
afterwards, and make sure things are still configured the way you want them.
I've seen cases where stuff got changed, and I had to re-do them.  Also,
look for *.rmpnew files.  Those will be new versions of configuration
files that didn't get moved into place because you updated the ones on the
running system.  Also look for *.rpmsave files.  I'm not sure what
criteria gets used to create those, but they're copies of configuration
files that were replaced, but saved.


There's a nice utility provided by SuSE which lists them out for you.  Use
chkconfig rpmconfigcheck on.  Then it will post a list of these files for
you (on the console) to investigate when the server boots (or go review it
in  /var/adm/rpmconfigcheck later).

You should do this whenever you apply any updates at all.  You'll have not
fun issues if say you've got pam customization and it shoves it off to
.rpmsave and puts its stuff there instead :(.






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Which ever way you go, you'll need to rummage through your system
afterwards, and make sure things are still configured the way you want them.
I've seen cases where stuff got changed, and I had to re-do them.  Also,
look for *.rmpnew files.  Those will be new versions of configuration
files that didn't get moved into place because you updated the ones on the
running system.  Also look for *.rpmsave files.  I'm not sure what
criteria gets used to create those, but they're copies of configuration
files that were replaced, but saved.


Mark Post

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Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z

2007-11-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
You would think I would have ... but I didn't... having been using
another vendor's product...  Off to vanilla land


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System for IBM System z

 On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at  4:54 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hey Mark and David(and others).
 
 Does this guy work for upgrading a sles9x (SP3+) server to SLES 10
SP1?

Marcy,

Sure, but if you've already got a working network installation server in
place, it won't really buy you anything.  The whole idea was to get a
site's first installation server up and running without having to
scrounge up space on another box (or scrounge up a new box), get
firewall rules changed, etc., and do it with native z/VM tools.  Since,
I imagine, you already have an install server set up, all you'll need to
do is incorporate the SLES10 SP1 installation files into that.


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Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 Starter System for IBM System z

2007-11-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
That's true too!  More than one way to pet a cat I guess!
Since I already had someone here try out the starter system, I figured
I'd see what happens if I tried it that way.   

Ah, I feel the freeze in the air --- time to get useful stuff done
without all those pesky applications folks in a panic about their own
stuff :)

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System for IBM System z

 On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at  5:26 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 You would think I would have ... but I didn't... having been using 
 another vendor's product...  Off to vanilla land

Ah, that's right.  I remember now.  Even so, if you create a stripped
down SLES10 (or even SLES9) system using your current tool, and use YaST
to turn itself into an installation server, you still won't need the
starter system.


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Re: Is 275GB of VDISK stupid?

2007-12-03 Thread Marcy Cortes
I haven't added it all up, but we do it that way and would have to be either
right around 275G if not over.

One thing to look out for is the vm.swappiness setting.  Seems that on SLES
9 (latest kernel) some virtual machines have a tendency to just keep writing
more and more to swap and never free up those pages in vdisk until the
process is stopped.   We had production machines march through all their
space and then java core dump :(.Used page space was also growing too
quickly without it.  Yes, swapoff/swapon would free up those pages (but the
structures would still exist in VM).

Setting kernel parameter vm.swappiness=20 seemed to prevent that.  Don't ask
me why... It just does :) (no time to go read the code and truly understand
that)...  The default is 60.

PS.  We use mod 3's for paging and mod 27's mostly for everything else.  9's
seem kind of useless after you build a file system on them and only have
like 6-something Gig left.



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On Dec 3, 2007 7:54 PM, Bill Bitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a good approach, but please one reminder. The DAT structures
 for virtual disk in storage address spaces, including PGMBKs, are not
 pageable (user space PGMBKs are). And prior to z/VM 5.3.0, they must
 reside in real memory below 2GB. So 275GB of vdisk would be more than
 2GB of memory required below 2GB for the DAT structures. One would
 want to be on z/VM 5.3.0. The PGMBKs are not reflected in the PTRM
 numbers.

But only when used, isn't it?
As long as you have not touched them, there's no PGMBKs except for the first
one. Once he actually starts using them I would think that 550 GB of paging
space might approach some other limitations in CP (though with 3390-9 not
the number of cpowned volumes).

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Re: Is 275GB of VDISK stupid?

2007-12-04 Thread Marcy Cortes
We have about 65 mod 3 for 112 servers (at the moment).  About 1/2 of
them are fat WAS virtual machines.   Once we hit 50% utilization, we add
more ...

Think of it this way... Would you rather have dedicated swap (real)
disks to each virtual machine that may or may not be used or would you
rather pool them all together and have VM's very robust block paging
system manage full volumes and balance across all of them.  Easier to
monitor.. Your i/o load is spread... There's even multilevel storage of
those pages (memory, xstor, disk).

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So Marcy, if you have 275GB of VDISK defined, what do you define for
total page space for your VM? Just curious. I am almost always in
disagreement with our VM guy on our configuration, but I'm getting ready
to revisit VDISK swap because we're on a new machine with more memory.
The more information I have on 'real companies' and their configurations
the less intractable he seems to be.

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I haven't added it all up, but we do it that way and would have to be
either right around 275G if not over.

One thing to look out for is the vm.swappiness setting.  Seems that on
SLES
9 (latest kernel) some virtual machines have a tendency to just keep
writing more and more to swap and never free up those pages in vdisk
until the
process is stopped.   We had production machines march through all their
space and then java core dump :(.Used page space was also growing
too
quickly without it.  Yes, swapoff/swapon would free up those pages (but
the structures would still exist in VM).

Setting kernel parameter vm.swappiness=20 seemed to prevent that.  Don't
ask me why... It just does :) (no time to go read the code and truly
understand that)...  The default is 60.

PS.  We use mod 3's for paging and mod 27's mostly for everything else.
9's seem kind of useless after you build a file system on them and only
have like 6-something Gig left.



Marcy Cortes

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Re: Extracting user IDs and IP addresses from QUERY VSWITCH DETAILS

2008-01-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
It would be nice to be able to say something like

Q vswitch details for USERID

If you've got a good number of them on a vswitch... It's a big PITA to
clear screen many many many times to get the one you wanted to see.  I
often pipe it into a file to be able to study the output.


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Subject: [LINUX-390] Extracting user IDs and IP addresses from QUERY
VSWITCH DETAILS

Hello list,

I was hoping to use a bash script to determine Linux user IDs and IP
addresses attached to a certain VSWITCH. With the vmcp module and the
QUERY VSWITCH DETAILS command, I get a lot of good information. I wrote
a short function that makes some assumptions:
1) Adapter owner: lines have user IDs
2) If the Name is UNASSIGNED then the user ID is not attached to the
VSWITCH
3) Otherwise the IP address follows after the line Unicast IP
Addresses:

Here's the output:

==
# ./foo
userID = LINUX116 IPaddr = 9.60.29.116
userID = LINUX117 IPaddr = 9.60.29.117
userID = LINUX118 IPaddr = 9.60.29.118
userID = LINUX119 IPaddr = 9.60.29.119
userID = LINUX124 IPaddr = 9.60.29.124
userID = LINUX125 IPaddr = 9.60.29.125
userID = LNXTEST IPaddr = none
userID = RHEL5U1 IPaddr = none
userID = SLES10S1 IPaddr = 9.60.29.115
parseVSWITCH vsw2 failed

==

So it *seems* to work. If anybody sees any bad assumptions or can
suggest a cleaner way to do this, I'd appreciate your thoughts.

Here's the code:

==
# cat foo
#!/bin/bash
#+--
+
function parseVSWITCH()
# extract user IDs and IP addresses connected to a vswitch
#   Arg1: VSWITCH name
#   Return: 0 - success
#   1 - Q VSWITCH failed
#+--
+
 {
  vswitch=$1
  vmcp q vswitch $vswitch  /dev/null 21
  if [ $? != 0 ]; then # error
return 1
  fi
  vmcp q vswitch details | \
  while [ 1 = 1 ]; do # do forever
read line
if [ $? = 1 ]; then # end of file
  return 0
fi
if [ ${line:0:14} = Adapter Owner: ]; then # extract user ID and
name
  userID=$(echo $line | awk '{ print $3 }')
  name=$(echo $line | awk '{ print $7 }')
  if [ $name != UNASSIGNED ]; then # get the IP address
while [ ${line:0:21} != Unicast IP Addresses: ]; do # skip
  read line
done
read line
IPaddr=$(echo $line | awk '{ print $1 }')
  else # assume UNASSIGNED means no IP address
IPaddr=none
  fi
  echo userID = $userID IPaddr = $IPaddr
fi
  done
 }

# main ()
parseVSWITCH vsw1
if [ $? != 0 ]; then echo parseVSWITCH vsw1 failed; fi parseVSWITCH
vsw2 if [ $? != 0 ]; then echo parseVSWITCH vsw2 failed; fi

==

For completeness here's the output of Q VSWITCH DET

==
# vmcp q vswitch det
VSWITCH SYSTEM VSW1 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 9Maxconn: INFINITE
  PERSISTENT  RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF
  VLAN Unaware
  MAC address: 02-00-01-00-00-01
  State: Ready
  IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8
  RDEV: 7004 VDEV: 7004 Controller: DTCVSW1
VSWITCH Connection:
  MAC address: 00-09-6B-1A-9C-18
  RX Packets: 4232093Discarded: 5  Errors: 0
  TX Packets: 2817344Discarded: 0  Errors: 0
  RX Bytes: 3143709816   TX Bytes: 489254172
  Device: 7006  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0001  Index: 0001
  RDEV: 7008 VDEV: 7008 Controller: DTCVSW2  BACKUP
  Adapter Connections:
Adapter Owner: LINUX116 NIC: 0600  Name: dontcare
  RX Packets: 3752469Discarded: 0  Errors: 0
  TX Packets: 1821025Discarded: 0  Errors: 18
  RX Bytes: 2218486112   TX Bytes: 250077384
  Device: 0602  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0067  Index: 0048
  Options: Broadcast Multicast IPv6 IPv4 VLAN
Unicast IP Addresses:
  9.60.29.116  MAC: 02-00-01-00-00-04
  FE80::200:100:800:4  MAC: 02-00-01-00-00-04 Local
Multicast IP Addresses:
  224.0.0.1MAC: 01-00-5E-00-00-01
  FF02::1

Re: Extracting user IDs and IP addresses from QUERY VSWITCH DETAILS

2008-01-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
Nope - that gives me all of them... Just prefixed with the userid and a
colon :)
Odd that a class G userid can get that much info?
 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Extracting user IDs and IP addresses from QUERY
VSWITCH DETAILS

On Tuesday, 01/08/2008 at 01:21 EST, Marcy Cortes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would be nice to be able to say something like

 Q vswitch details for USERID

 If you've got a good number of them on a vswitch... It's a big PITA to

 clear screen many many many times to get the one you wanted to see.  I

 often pipe it into a file to be able to study the output.

That would be FOR userid CMD Q VSWITCH [name] DETAILS.

Alan Altmark
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Re: Extracting user IDs and IP addresses from QUERY VSWITCHDETAILS

2008-01-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
I mean, does the sysprog *really* want to be involved in every guest A
can't ping guest B quandry?

Umm.   We always are. If not us, then who else?  The Linux sysadmin?
The network admin?  Those would be us too.  We may not *want* to, but
that's what we do for a living :)


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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Extracting user IDs and IP addresses from QUERY
VSWITCHDETAILS

On Tuesday, 01/08/2008 at 03:09 EST, Pieter Harder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would even say this is a security exposure. A class G user can find
out what
 another user's macid is on a layer2 switch, and then play all kind of
mischief
 with it.

We are aware of the requirement to prevent two users on the same VSWITCH
from talking to each other.

Restricting the details of the VSWITCH simply makes it more difficult
for the guest to be configured correctly.  I mean, does the sysprog
*really* want to be involved in every guest A can't ping guest B
quandry?

And if I wanted to, I'd just start ARPing for different IP addys and see
what responses I get.  Not have the QUERY output would slow me down for
a few minutes.

Alan Altmark
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Re: Extracting user IDs and IP addresses from QUERY VSWITCHDETAILS

2008-01-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
I think I'd agree with Marcy: it seems odd to tell a class G guest
anything about the other guests attached to a switch. Class B, sure, but
not class G. 

It does seem like it could give someone an idea of which was the most
interesting guest on switch based on bytes in/out and therefore the most
worthwhile to try to hack into first.   Certain not here at a bank where
that would never happen :)-- but maybe some college might have an issue.
You know those students.



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Re: IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

2008-01-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
 (BTW, why should PR/SM care what OS is to be run in the LPAR?)

So it can know which one the IFLs can be given to?
It was probably not using IFLs either since it was defined as MVS.
I've been told also that you get a little penguin picture there
somewhere too.  Course I haven't actually seen it since no one lets me
near an HMC.

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 On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at  5:11 PM, in message
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 Define attached in this context.
 
 Configured is the term of art.  As long as the chpids, CUs, and 
 devices are configured to the VM LPAR (via IOCDS, HCD, or dynamic 
 DEFINE), then CP
 (EDEVICE) and Linux (ATTACH or DEDICATE) can talk to the FCP adapters.

This was the problem the OP was having.  Since the LPAR was defined as
being an MVS LPAR (BTW, why should PR/SM care what OS is to be run in
the LPAR?), HCD would not allow him to configure the FCP I/O devices
onto the LPAR.  He had to either create a new LPAR definition, saying it
was a VM LPAR or delete and redefine the existing one.

 The above is necessary, but typically not sufficient.  Additional 
 configuration of your SAN fabric is usually required to give Linux 
 and/or CP access to the target WWPNs  LUNs.

Sure, but you have to get past the first hurdle before you can even try
to deal with these items.


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Re: Linux not recognizing file systems

2008-01-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
/sbin/SuSEconfig can change permissions on things based on the settings
in /etc/permissions* and /etc/sysconfig/security
Could you have changed those things and run it? (or yast2 ran it after
changing something else).



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Joell Chockley wrote:
 I've got a strange problem with a Linux guest.  The only indicator 
 we've come up with so far is that /dev/null had it's file permissions 
 changed on Friday afternoon to -rw-r--r--  1 root root 81 2008-01-11 
 15:03 /dev/null (we don't know how this was changed).  One of our 
 admins changed it back to


This is what I would expect to see if someone deleted /dev/null and then
root did something like echo /dev/null as you would expect root to do
sometimes - just look at /etc/init.d/* grep /dev/null /etc/init.d/*


_I_ would like to know who|what deleted /dev/null and what else was
done, it sounds to me like a breakdown in procedures, or some malware
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Re: Linux not recognizing file systems

2008-01-17 Thread Marcy Cortes
As long as a manager says they can have it, they have it.  That's all
audit cares about.
Ours do as well (via sudo), but they actually do do a lot of sysadmin'y
things that require root.  They've also have sysadmin experience and
training.


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 On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at  9:21 AM, in message
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 We did find out after getting the problem fixed that our WebSphere 
 Admin had mistyped a command they use to clear a log file (did a mv on

 /dev/null instead of a cp)...we've changed their procedure so they 
 don't do either command anymore!

This raises a whole new set of questions, one of which being why does a
WebSphere admin have general root access?  To prevent situations such
as what you've experienced, that's not a good idea, and it's likely your
auditors will have a much harsher assessment.


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Re: Finding /dev/disk/by-path

2008-01-31 Thread Marcy Cortes
I'm pretty sure it's udev.

Chkconfig boot.udev on




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Would anyone know when the /dev/disk path came into existance, or what
package creates it? I have it on some of my SuSE SLES 9 images, but not on
others, and I need to know what is missing to add this path

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Re: SuSE Versions

2008-01-31 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
If you haven't discovered this one yet, the sitar package will make a
nice little HTML page of every thing about your servers.  Mgmt might be
happy with that.  You can quickly build an inventory web page.



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Subject: [LINUX-390] SuSE Versions

We are running several versions of SuSE on our IFL.  I am trying to make
a list of what we are running.  I went into each Instance and did a cat
/proc/version, but that shows me the kernel level.  How can I either
find the SuSE version, or equate that kernel level to a specific SuSE
version?  Management wants this list and they don't understand kernel
versions..lol

Also, how can I tell if it is 32-bit or 64-bit.

Thanks

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Re: NEW TOPIC -- Workload move from z/OS to z/Series Linux

2008-01-31 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
There was a guy I talked to a z/Expo.  Small customer but they had moved
about all their DB2 over to Linux.  I haven't seen him ever post here
though.  There's some quiet folks (unlike us :) out there.  They are
usually govt places or employers that don't let their folks say what
they are doing.  

MQ Series and WebSphere Message Broker would be some other things to
look for.

But I think you'll need to inventory the z/OS stuff first!

Good luck!

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Linux

My original topic was completely hijacked by disucssion of ZIIPS and
ZAAP so I am going to try again.

Please no more ZIIPs and ZAAPs. (Frankly, my dear, ...)

Has anyone actually moved workload from z/OS to z/Linux?

So far I got only one response, someone who moved TSM from z/OS to
z/Linux.

I got some good suggestions. Thank you!

Someone asked what we run on z/OS. I don't know. It seems a bit strange
that a VM system programmer is being asked to do this. I will no doubt
find out one of these days.

But so far I have to report that no one is doing this except one shop.

Alan Ackerman
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Re: Finding /dev/disk/by-path

2008-02-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
Whew.

There is this mystery I just discovered with /dev/disk/by-path

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev/disk/by-path ls -al
total 8
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Feb  1 09:00 .
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Feb  1 09:00 ..
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0100 - ../../dasda
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0100p1 - ../../dasda1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0101 - ../../dasdb
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0101p1 - ../../dasdb1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0102 - ../../dasdc
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0102p1 - ../../dasdc1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0103 - ../../dasdd
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0103p1 - ../../dasdd1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0104 - ../../dasde
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0104p1 - ../../dasde1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0105 - ../../dasdf
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.0105p1 - ../../dasdf1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8001 - ../../dasdg
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8001p1 - ../../dasdg1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8002 - ../../dasdh
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8002p1 - ../../dasdh1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8003 - ../../dasdi
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8003p1 - ../../dasdi1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8004 - ../../dasdj
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8004p1 - ../../dasdj1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8005 - ../../dasdk
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8005p1 - ../../dasdk1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8006 - ../../dasdl
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8006p1 - ../../dasdl1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8007 - ../../dasdm
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8007p1 - ../../dasdm1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8008 - ../../dasdn
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8008p1 - ../../dasdn1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8009 - ../../dasdo
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8009p1 - ../../dasdo1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800a - ../../dasdp
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800a1 - ../../dasdp1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800b - ../../dasdq
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800b1 - ../../dasdq1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800c - ../../dasdr
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800c1 - ../../dasdr1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800d - ../../dasds
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800d1 - ../../dasds1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800e - ../../dasdt
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800e1 - ../../dasdt1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800f - ../../dasdu
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.800f1 - ../../dasdu1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8010 - ../../dasdz
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8010p1 - ../../dasdz1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8011 - ../../dasdaa
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   13 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.8011p1 -
../../dasdaa1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.ff00 - ../../dasdv
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.ff00p1 - ../../dasdv1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.ff01 - ../../dasdw
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.ff01p1 - ../../dasdw1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.ff02 - ../../dasdx
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.ff02p1 - ../../dasdx1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.ff03 - ../../dasdy
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 Feb  1 09:00 ccw-0.0.ff03p1 - ../../dasdy1


Is there some reason why the 800a-800f disks don't result in
800ap1-800fp1?   The p goes missing.
Is this a bug?




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 Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/31/08 12:11 PM 
I'm pretty sure it's udev.

Correct.


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Re: Finding /dev/disk/by-path

2008-02-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
Using the ones shipped by Novell (sles9x  - udev-021-36.69 ).
I guess I get to make use of my support contract!  Let's see if I
remember how!


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 On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at  1:02 PM, in message
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 Is there some reason why the 800a-800f disks don't result in
 800ap1-800fp1?   The p goes missing.
 Is this a bug?

I agree with Adam.  The fact that only the subchannel addresses with
values greater than 9 makes me suspicious that it's a udev rule problem.
The question is, whether the udev rules are as-shipped by Novell, or if
they've been tweaked by you.  If the former, I would open up a problem
record.


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Re: qeth setup cause code documentation

2008-02-04 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
Sure looks like you don't have a 7000.
What do you get with 
#CP Q NIC DETAILS

If on a vswitch with no ESM, you may have lost your access.
Set vswitch n grant vmid



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Subject: [LINUX-390] qeth setup cause code documentation

Can someone point me to where the qeth setup return codes are
documented?  I've found a few mentioned in scattered postings online,
but none that represent our error (0xf6).  I figure knowing where TFM is
will help me R it...  Thanks!

 

For those interested, we're getting the following when attempting to set
up the first Linux guest on a new VM lpar.  Oddly, this only popped up
after we had to reconfigure the ethernet settings (we had the DNS ip
address wrong) during the Linux installation, but now we can't get rid
of it.  (Even an IPL of the lpar didn't help)

 

...

Enter MAC address (leave empty for VSwitch) ():  

Device 0.0.7000 configured  

qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6

qeth: sense data available on channel 0.0.7000. 

qeth:  cstat 0x0

 dstat 0xE  

qeth: irb: 00 c2 60 17  7b 4b d0 38  0e 00 10 00  00 80 00 00   

qeth: irb: 01 02 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00   

qeth: sense data: 02 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00

qeth: sense data: 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00

qeth: Initialization in hardsetup failed! rc=-5 

eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found



eth0 not available, check device addresses/cards.   



Do you want to retry the qeth-setup (Yes/No) ?   

 

 

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Re: OSA portname

2008-02-06 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
If I recall, it requires a big chunk of memory in your virtual machine. 

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Ken Schweiker
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] OSA portname

I know a lot of folks are using vswitch. I just don't see a compelling
reason to yet. The OSA's have been rock solid. There are plenty of ports
to assign. It's a shorter pathlength. It's less complex, though
vswitches are not that complex but they are another layer to set up. We
do have vm guest lans for security reasons for certain servers. What am
I missing?
Redundancy. Anything else? Not being a LAN architect, all suggestions
are welcome.  We will need to address the redundancy issue in the future
with some kind of OSA failover if workloads become more critical.

About the portname, I finally found the location for that parameter. It
wasn't my search string, just that some numskull (no names mentioned :)
had set a different portname than I was looking for, on some of the
servers. (I must not have noticed the portname mismatch message on
startup). So then I think the answer is I would not have to use YaST to
change them, just edit the hwcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.1d20?





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 On Wed, Feb 6, 2008 at 10:14 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken
Schweiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Re-defining osa addresses on zVM for a SuSE 9x server to another OSA 
 card (OSA Express Gb LX). This is the first time this card is being 
 used and the link does not come up.
 (example
 DEDICATE 1D00 1F20
 DEDICATE 1D01 1F21
 DEDICATE 1D02 1F22 )

From later notes in this thread, I see you're onto the possible cause of
your error.  So, I'll ask the question no one else has.  Why in the
world are you DEDICATEing OSA ports to a guest?  Why are you not using
VSWITCH?
(There are legitimate reasons to do this, but the question needs to be
asked, just in case.)

-snip-
 I followed a Mark Post post to see/set portname using Yast. It was 
 already blank but I saved it anyway. So where is the below portname 
 coming from?
-snip-
 Setting up network interfaces:
 qeth: Device 0.0.1d00/0.0.1d01/0.0.1d02 is a OSD Express card (level:
0635)
 with link type OSD_1000 (portname: osacssd)
-snip-

The fact that it is lower case means that it is being set by a Linux
system, somewhere.  Any Linux system connected to the OSA could be doing
it, not necessarily this particular one.  (You say this is the first
system to use the card, so it likely is the culprit.)  So, on all the
systems connected to this card, you could do this:
find /etc -type f | xargs grep -il osacssd


Mark Post

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Re: OSA portname

2008-02-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
On Wednesday, 02/06/2008 at 05:19 EST, Ken Schweiker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know a lot of folks are using vswitch. I just don't see a compelling

 reason to yet. The OSA's have been rock solid. 

I just wanted to point out that I can remember at least 3 occasions
where we've lost OSA cards.
Redundancy is a good thing - but of course it depends on the criticality
of your apps.


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Re: Question for a friend: RPM spec file for WAS on z?

2008-02-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
You mean like one created by something from a product that you probably are
pretty familiar with ?  :)  (so I have one :)

If you want one, some open source things like tar2rpm (alien) are worth
looking at.  WAS itself is not an rpm install but a java based installer.


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Subject: [LINUX-390] Question for a friend: RPM spec file for WAS on z?

Does anyone have an RPM spec file for WAS on z that they can share?
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Re: Question for a friend: RPM spec file for WAS on z?

2008-02-11 Thread Marcy Cortes
Well, it you have a tool that only does rpms for distribution, that'd be
one reason.
Or maybe you like to be able to query information about the package or
verify that all the pieces of it are still there, rpm would give you
that.
But I don't know why Phil was asking ?! So maybe he has some other
things?


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Daryl Hoffman
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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Question for a friend: RPM spec file for WAS on
z?

I would be interested in knowing the benefits of this over installing
from the tar files or sharing the binaries across multiple images?  Does
this
speed up or make the installation easier?   Does this make it
installable
on the root partition and why would one want to do that?

Just curious being a linu newbie, but being more experienced with
WebSphere.

Thanks for any insight.

Daryl

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 You mean like one created by something from a product that you 
 probably are pretty familiar with ?  :)  (so I have one :)

 If you want one, some open source things like tar2rpm (alien) are 
 worth looking at.  WAS itself is not an rpm install but a java based
installer.


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Yast online_update problem - curl vs. our proxy server

2008-02-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
Wanted to see if anyone else has run into this.

YOU has stopped working for me.  Probabably a while ago, but I think
I've finally figured out why.

We have a proxy server.  Novell is putting up 302 redirects on
https://you.novell.com/update and files beneath that url and curl is
stopping on those.   I see I'm pulling things like:

zlinux-maint:~ # cat /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/media.1/media
HTMLHEADTITLENovell iChain/TITLE/HEADBODYbpYour old
browser does not support a 302 Redirect./b/BODY/HTML


I've disected it some and found that curl with ah -L option goes right
on through these redirects and will pull good files.

But I can't find a way to make online_update call curl with a -L option.

Any ideas? 




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Re: Yast online_update problem - curl vs. our proxy server

2008-02-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
Well, still not liking me. (yast2-packagemanager-2.9.73-0.1)

I did the rm command.
It's hanging here and /var/lib/YasST2/you/mnt/media.1/media is still
empty:

zlinux-maint:~ # tail /var/log/YaST2/y2log
2008-02-12 16:08:58 1 zlinux-maint(11355) [Y2PM]
Y2PM.locale.cc(LocaleSettings):103 Fallback locale: 'en'
2008-02-12 16:08:58 1 zlinux-maint(11355) [Y2PMrc]
Y2PM.rcvalue.cc(rcInit):428 Initialize using: file
/var/adm/YaST/y2pm/y2pmrc
2008-02-12 16:08:58 1 zlinux-maint(11355) [Y2PMrc++]
Y2PM.rcvalue.cc(parse):272 assignstatus == 1
2008-02-12 16:08:58 1 zlinux-maint(11355) [Y2PM]
Y2PM.cc(setCandidateOrder):137 setCandidateOrder 0
2008-02-12 16:08:58 1 zlinux-maint(11355) [mediaaccess]
MediaAccess.cc(open):114 Opened: https(https://you.novell.com/update not
attached; localRoot /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt)
2008-02-12 16:08:58 2 zlinux-maint(11355) [mediaaccess]
MediaCurl.cc(attachTo):129 Disable certificate verification for https.
2008-02-12 16:08:58 1 zlinux-maint(11355) [mediaaccess]
MediaHandler.cc(attach):171 Attached: https://you.novell.com/update
attached; localRoot /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt
2008-02-12 16:08:58 1 zlinux-maint(11355) [mediaaccess++]
MediaCurl.cc(getFileCopy):360 dest: /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/media.1/media
2008-02-12 16:08:58 1 zlinux-maint(11355) [mediaaccess++]
MediaCurl.cc(getFileCopy):361 destNew:
/var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/media.1/media.new.yast.37456
2008-02-12 16:08:58 1 zlinux-maint(11355) [mediaaccess++]
MediaCurl.cc(getFileCopy):369 URL:
https://you.novell.com/update/media.1/media 


It'll eventually time that out, I'm sure.

I'll try the very ugly hack later this evening and I *will* call you.
That's what premium support is supposed to be for, right?!!



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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:05 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Yast online_update problem - curl vs. our proxy
server

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at  6:53 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Wanted to see if anyone else has run into this.
 
 YOU has stopped working for me.  Probabably a while ago, but I think 
 I've finally figured out why.
 
 We have a proxy server.  Novell is putting up 302 redirects on 
 https://you.novell.com/update and files beneath that url and curl is
 stopping on those.   I see I'm pulling things like:
 
 zlinux-maint:~ # cat /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/media.1/media
 HTMLHEADTITLENovell iChain/TITLE/HEADBODYbpYour old 
 browser does not support a 302 Redirect./b/BODY/HTML

Hmm.  I was messing with something similar today with another customer.
I wound up doing an rm /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/media.1/* command and
then things started working again for me.  What's the version of
yast2-packagemanager on that system?

 I've disected it some and found that curl with ah -L option goes right

 on through these redirects and will pull good files.
 
 But I can't find a way to make online_update call curl with a -L
option.

If the above doesn't get you back on track, I would think that a very
ugly hack of renaming /usr/bin/curl to /usr/bin/curl.bin, and creating a
shell script named /usr/bin/curl that invoked /usr/bin/curl.bin with the
-L ahead of the rest of the parms might get you by.  Just don't call
me/us if it breaks.  :)  Try the other workaround first.


Mark Post

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Re: Yast online_update problem - curl vs. our proxy server

2008-02-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
I think I might have a subscription problem.
I noticed all my products in my novell customer care are expired.
I'll pursue that issue first and then try online_update again.
Thanks Mark


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YOU proxy CONNECT aborted

2008-02-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
I posted a few weeks ago and Mark tried to help.
I'm pretty sure our contracts stuff is straighted out on novell.com now
- I can now pull stuff as described here in testing your id:
http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcexterna
lId=10099959



But when I run online_update I hang and eventually time out.  These are
the messages in /var/log/YaST2/y2log

2008-02-26 09:52:04 1 zlinux-maint(27828) [mediaaccess]
MediaAccess.cc(open):114 Opened:
https(https://marcydc:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/update not attached;
localRoot /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt)
2008-02-26 09:52:04 2 zlinux-maint(27828) [mediaaccess]
MediaCurl.cc(attachTo):129 Disable certificate verification for https.
2008-02-26 09:52:04 1 zlinux-maint(27828) [mediaaccess]
MediaHandler.cc(attach):171 Attached:
https://marcydc:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/update attached; localRoot
/var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt
2008-02-26 09:52:04 1 zlinux-maint(27828) [packagemanager++]
PMYouPatchInfo.cc(getDirectory):485 Patch path:
./s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/patches
2008-02-26 09:52:04 1 zlinux-maint(27828) [packagemanager++]
PMYouPatchInfo.cc(getDirectory):488 Directory file:
./s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/patches/directory.3
2008-02-26 09:52:04 1 zlinux-maint(27828) [mediaaccess++]
MediaCurl.cc(getFileCopy):360 dest:
/var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/patches/directory.3
2008-02-26 09:52:04 1 zlinux-maint(27828) [mediaaccess++]
MediaCurl.cc(getFileCopy):361 destNew:
/var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/patches/directory.3.new.
yast.37456
2008-02-26 09:52:04 1 zlinux-maint(27828) [mediaaccess++]
MediaCurl.cc(getFileCopy):369 URL:
https://marcydc:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/update/s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/
patches/directory.3
2008-02-26 09:57:10 1 zlinux-maint(27828) [liby2util++]
PathInfo.cc(_Log_Result):271 unlink
/var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt/s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/patches/directory.3.new.
yast.37456
2008-02-26 09:57:10 3 zlinux-maint(27828) [mediaaccess]
MediaCurl.cc(getFileCopy):413 curl error: 56: Proxy CONNECT aborted

But I can sit on the command line and issue a curl of that file
successfully so I'm pretty sure my proxy server is configured correctly:

zlinux-maint:~ # curl -v -O
https://marcydc:(passwdhere)@you.novell.com/update/s390x/update/SUSE-COR
E/9/patches/directory.3 -i
* About to connect() to ourproxy.wellsfargo.com port 80
* Connected to ourproxy.wellsfargo.com (x.x.x.x) port 80
* Establish HTTP proxy tunnel to you.novell.com:443
* Server auth using Basic with user 'marcydc'
 HTTP/1.0 200 Connection established
* Proxy replied OK to CONNECT request
* successfully set certificate verify locations:
*   CAfile: /usr/share/curl/curl-ca-bundle.crt
  CApath: none
* SSL connection using DES-CBC3-SHA
* Server certificate:
*subject: /C=US/ST=Utah/L=Provo/O=Novell, Inc./CN=*.novell.com
*start date: 2007-11-19 19:02:51 GMT
*expire date: 2009-01-18 19:02:51 GMT
*common name: *.novell.com (matched)
*issuer: /C=US/O=Equifax/OU=Equifax Secure Certificate Authority
* SSL certificate verify ok.
* Server auth using Basic with user 'marcydc'
 GET /update/s390x/update/SUSE-CORE/9/patches/directory.3 HTTP/1.1
Authorization: Basic bWFyY3lkYzpuN2hvYmJlcw==
User-Agent: curl/7.11.0 (s390x-ibm-linux) libcurl/7.11.0 OpenSSL/0.9.7d
ipv6 zlib/1.2.1
Host: you.novell.com
Pragma: no-cache
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, */*

  % Total   % Received % Xferd  Average Speed Time
Curr.
Dload  Upload   TotalCurrentLeft
Speed
  0 0   0  0   0 0  0  0 --:--:--   0:00:00 --:--:--
0 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
 Last-Modified: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:45:01 GMT
 Accept-Ranges: bytes
 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:13:31 GMT
 Server: Apache/2.2.2 (Unix) PHP/4.4.4
 ETag: 4560035-13d9-9ddc3540
 Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate, max-age=0
 Content-Type: text/plain
 Content-Length: 5081
 Set-Cookie: ZNPCQ002-you=V001578886e4; path=/
 P3p: CP=NOI
 Set-Cookie: IPCZQX018ef15359=36005102026b2b0f8eda1f07; path=/;
domain=.novell.com
 P3p: CP=NOI
 Via: 1.1 ICS_SERVER (iChain 2.3.410)
100  5081 100   5081   0 0   5393  0   0:00:00   0:00:00
0:00:00 64316
* Connection #0 left intact
* Closing connection #0



What am I missing here?


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Re: YOU proxy CONNECT aborted

2008-02-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
Yep, it's all up to date.   Spident -vvv gives me all +'s except for
net-snmp from Velocity.


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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:36 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] YOU proxy CONNECT aborted

 On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at  1:23 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I posted a few weeks ago and Mark tried to help.
 I'm pretty sure our contracts stuff is straighted out on novell.com 
 now
 - I can now pull stuff as described here in testing your id:
 http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcexter
 na
 lId=10099959

Hmm.  This is sounding a little familiar now.  I think I worked with
someone else on this same thing.  Is your YOU server completely updated?
If not, update it and try again.  I'm pretty sure there was some
YaST/YOU maintenance that was waiting out there, and if you didn't put
it on, later on things like this start happening.  I'm not 100% sure
though.  My brain's been a little full lately.


Mark Post

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Re: YOU proxy CONNECT aborted

2008-02-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
YOU doesn't work so nothing is waiting!

I did go pull every rpm from Novell website for everything and did an rpm
-Fvh against them all.
So it is SP4+ for real.

I'm about to open a service request.


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[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep, it's all up to date.   Spident -vvv gives me all +'s except for
 net-snmp from Velocity.

We, that's not necessarily a good indication.  If you put on a bunch of
maintenance a long time ago, SPident will still show you as being SLESx +
SPy + online updates.  If you go into YOU and see if there are any updates
waiting, I would try putting on anything yast2-* related and see what
happens.  What SPident checks against gets updated with maintenance, so if
that control file hasn't been updated recently, it's checking against old
information.


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Re: Syslog from z/VM CMS... And on being frustrated...

2008-03-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
Part 1: you can stick it in the obey list, you can stick it in the PORT 
section, or you can turn off restrictlowports 

 


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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Syslog from z/VM CMS... And on being frustrated...

Part one: You apparently have to be in the Obey list to talk to port 514.
There may be a way to talk to 514 from a higher port, but I haven't gone back 
to look at the UDP stage yet to see if that's true. In any case, adding the 
user to the Obey list solves the problem temporarily.

We have only the Pipelines that come with z/VM 5.3 It'd be nice if IBM 
would catch up with the rest of the Pipelines world, but we stick to what's 
supported in the system.

Part two: It's not how much of the network you want to sniff; it's that there 
is a 14 byte header missing beneath z/VM that Linux, and more importantly, 
tcpdump expect and that isn't provided. There is a perl script that we found 
that supplies this header for each record so that you can go back and properly 
analyze the captured data. I supposed you could pass it through to the tcpdump 
-r again to see it in real time, but I didn't try that. The script we found is 
called tcpdump-qeth.pl, so it appears to be a problem that others have 
previously run into.

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On 3/7/08 3:20 PM, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:47 PM, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I put together a service virtual machine to do this task for me on 
 some  regular basis. But when the rexx exec runs there, even though 
 it gets no  errors, nothing shows up at the syslog server. This is 
 true when the service  machine is disconnected, and when I log into 
 it and recreate by hand what I  was doing from my own userid.
 
 Have you tried to run a UDP stage on the VM system and see the 
 messages getting there?
 
  I¹m looking for differences between the two virtual machines, but I 
 haven¹t  found anything yet that makes any difference. I¹m fishing 
 for ideas, hoping  that someone here will have one that¹s better than my own 
 have been...
 
 It could not be that you try to send UDP from port 514 as well and 
 have the pipeline in both users at the same time, could it?  Or maybe 
 the service machine has a very old version of CMS Pipelines (not that 
 I know of anything that would silently fail, but there could be other 
 stage that behave a bit different).
 
  This has been complicated by the fact that tcpdump doesn¹t work on a 
 Linux  guest (at least with a default setup). I did find the grant 
 promiscuous  option, but it doesn¹t seem to make a difference on the 
 fly; I¹m assuming  that I¹d have to do the grant promiscuous before 
 logging in the guest to  allow tcpdump to work. (It would be really 
 useful if you could turn this on  on the fly)
 
 You don't have to sniff the entire network just to catch the traffic 
 sent to port 514. After all, if you're logged on you already know the 
 Linux server can receive data and all you need to see is what data 
 arrives (unless you think your sending pipeline has the wrong IP 
 address or port).
 Just do a   tcpdump -i eth0 -n port 514   or so.
 
 And are both sending to the same Linux server? I recall the default 
 setup is pretty stubborn in doing a firewall for no good reason...
 
 Rob

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Re: CMM questions

2008-03-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
Hi Betsie!

Have you read this one?

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/perf/tuning_pap_VM.
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Subject: [LINUX-390] CMM questions

Hi Gang,
I'm confused and have some basic questions, please.
Does VMRM Cooperative Memory Management require anything to be installed
on the zLinux guest?  I've activated the VMRMSVM server.

Does it work with the Collaborative Memory Management Assist machine
feature?

Do they work independently of each other? Require each other?   I need a
CMM for Dummies tutorial.

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Re: CMM questions

2008-03-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
You'll probably have to cut and paste that back together.
Not sure how to make this list not chop it.  Should end with
/perf/tuning_pap_VM.html#vmlm 


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Any other versions of the URL?  I can't get to the one below.
Betsie 

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Hi Betsie!

Have you read this one?

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/perf/tuning_pap_VM.
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Subject: [LINUX-390] CMM questions

Hi Gang,
I'm confused and have some basic questions, please.
Does VMRM Cooperative Memory Management require anything to be installed
on the zLinux guest?  I've activated the VMRMSVM server.

Does it work with the Collaborative Memory Management Assist machine
feature?

Do they work independently of each other? Require each other?   I need a
CMM for Dummies tutorial.

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Re: Betr.: how can I mount /tmp as a tmpfs in SLES9?

2008-03-17 Thread Marcy Cortes
Well, memory is a pricey resource in the z environment (and I don't
suppose it got cheaper on a z10 :)
Now, maybe if you had an application that had high performance needs to
files in its /tmp areas... But other than that, I don't think you'd
probably want to waste the memory.

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Subject: [LINUX-390] Betr.: how can I mount /tmp as a tmpfs in SLES9?

My first thought would be that it isn't a great idea to mount /tmp in
Linux memory as that adds to the working set of the machine. If you want
memory I would make it a z/VM Vdisk and put /tmp there and let CP handle
the memory requirement. But I may be totally off base here. Anybody have
numbers about this? Velocity guys?
 
 
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a decade with no problems, but we don't run all that much in USS.  I
know that it's possible to mount tmp as memory-it's mentioned in a few
read-only-root redbooks-but I can't seem to find the mechanics on it.
So either it's such a no-brainer that it doesn't bear mentioning for the
most part, or it's a bad idea (explained in some doc I haven't been able
to google).  Which is it?  Thanks!



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Re: Having trouble adding a volume

2008-03-25 Thread Marcy Cortes
Be sure the place you are writing to with mkinitrd and zipl is the same
thing you are booting off of.  
Do you see any thing regarding the 210 in dmesg?


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Brad Hinson
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Having trouble adding a volume

On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 12:37 -0600, Mark Post wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at  2:33 PM, in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 Bauer, Bobby
 (NIH/CIT) [E] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yeah, that was my though also. I just redid those steps with 
  somebody who is a bit familiar with Linux looking over my shoulder. 
  Same results, volume 210 does not come online. I can however use the

  chccwdev to bring 210 online after the boot.

 When you ran mkinitrd, was the 210 volume online at that point?  If
not, try mkinitrd and zipl while it is online.


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It may help to run mkinitrd with -v to show verbose output.  You should
see a line similar to:

adding dasd_mod with options dasd=200-201,210

If it does say this, can you paste the output of zipl -V?

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Re: modprobe.conf

2008-03-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
I take it you are not under VM, which would make all of this fun
irrelevant because you can keep the same address virtually!

I think what you need to do is mkinitrd and zipl to another disk but
using a zipl.conf that has the appropriate dasd= parm.
That is still an option in 2.6 even though most don't use it and tend to
just build it without it so that the kernel picks up all the online at
the time devices, from what I can tell anyway.


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Fuhrmann Anna
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:16 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] modprobe.conf

Hi Mark, 

My task and problem is not: having to bring a device online, and yes, we
are running on kernel 2.6.

We worked out a method to clone the system (for different purposes,
involving different DASD and networking hardware) . But we do not do
this by the known clone procedure that involves mount-and-modify the
copied system as to DASD and network-scripts (see PS). Our method
consists of 1. a fake initramdisk with changed DASD addresses that can
be accessed via boot menu parameter 2. a network script in init.d that
routes to different /network-scripts/-directories with the appropriate
(different) configuration depending on a parameter given to the system
at IPL time also via (modified) boot menu 

In this way we have a boot menu that enables us to boot different
systems with different hardware, 
governed by zipl.conf paramaters. Well ... but:   

When trying this configuration, I ended up with kernel panic ;-))   

Next thing I thought of was: I forgot about modprobe conf. I remembered
that when establishing a new device in a running system one has to
modify - among others - modprobe.conf.

So now I am trying to copy my system to new DASD and IPL there. This
different DASD is established by means of a different intrd that can be
accessed by way of this new zipl.conf. But it is not established by way
of modprobe.conf. And I think this might be the reason for the kernel
panicking. And this is why I wanted to change modprobe.conf just for the
time the system gets copied over ... 

PS
Why I am afraid of the semi-official clone method: 
mounting the DASD where I copied the system and wanting to change
configuration files this way may be risky because the home system and
the mounted system both have the very same LogVol-setup.
Same setup, meaning also same names/labels.  
So even if I edit a config file accessing it with an explicit path, the
LogVol-manager may
get upset or confused because it can find these files on both LogVols.

  
But maybe you have an idea ...? 

Kind regards
Anna


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Sent: Thu 3/27/2008 3:44 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: modprobe.conf
 
 On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at  6:26 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Fuhrmann Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
-snip-
 Can I modify modprobe.conf so that in contains the *wrong* DASD 
 addresses for a while (this should happen for the sake of copying the 
 system DASD as a whole so that the ready copy contains the modified 
 modprobe.conf for another LPAR with a different DASD config.

Anna,

Why do you think you have to modify modprobe.conf to do this?  I have to
believe that you're running on a 2.6 kernel, so you should be able to
use chccwdev to bring the devices online and offline without modifying
any  configuration files.


Mark Post

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Re: recover root password

2008-04-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
Does anyone have full sudo?
Then you could just 
  sudo su -
  passwd

And change it.

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Subject: [LINUX-390] recover root password

Hello,

We are running Suse Linux 9.3 (64 bit) under z/VM 5.1. One of the
administrators changed the root password and forgot the password. Does
anyone know how to recover the root password? Thanks.

Miguel A Roman.




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Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread Marcy Cortes
Hey, didn't we talk about this stuff a few weeks ago on the phone?

Anyway, we have a unix/linux product in lieu of sudo (on every place but
zLinux at the moment due to vendor support, but that is changing real
soon now) that key stroke logs (to a remote server) every thing one does
while running as root, because, like Alan said, you can do things like
turn off audit and destroy logs, or change the root pw, grant someone
else, etc.

While logonby is great and we use it all the time with byonly userids
and never ever share a password on VM, we still really can't tell those
who care about SOX what someone did when they logged into MAINT or
VMSECURE or RACFVM if he's your guy.   You can't even use last changed
date on minidisks, because, well there is DDR!  z/VM doesn't really have
anything in place to protect you from your sysprog (or at least read
about it after the fact), unlike the other o/s's that at least give the
illusion that they can.

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:39 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] recover root password

Bob Nix wrote:
 Anyone sticking to the I have to have root! model of system 
 administration is leaving themselves open to a huge awakening as 
 Sarbanes-Oxley and other regulations overtake us. While we aren't 
 required by law to conform to Sarbanes-Oxley, we've chosen to bring 
 ourselves as close as we possibly can.

The are also living in the Dark Ages.

 One of the requirements is that what is done to your systems is done 
 with accountability. To be completely compliant, everything done by /
with
 root will need to be logged, showing what was done, and by whom. Can 
 you
do
 that now, with two or more people logging into root? Can you do it 
 with
even
 one person logging into root? Not on any distribution I know today. So
you
 aren't compliant, and will be pinged on your audit, and if you're 
 required to be S-O compliant, you're leaving your company open to 
 legal
action.

It is heartwarming, after a fashion, to see this discussion.  I forget:
When did we introduce LOGON BY to z/VM?  The requirement for
accountability is not driven by law, but by Good Business Practices,
with an eye towards long-term survival.  (The fact that we had to have
laws to tell people that they must use Good Business Practices speaks
volumes about our society and its [lack of] values.  :-(  )

One of the reasons the mainframes have endured for so long is because, I
believe, its purchasers' continued adherence to rigid change control
practices.   Time is money.  So if you screw up a change, you cost us
money.  This was all before S-O  Co.

Give someone root authority, but make them say Give me root authority.
Here are my credentials.  If you'll check your e-clipboard, you'll that
I'm On The List.  (Of course, not REALLY root authority.  E.g. no
ability to grant root to someone else or to turn off security
subsystems,
auditing, etc.   Dinosaurs can cause serious injury or death is not
the
only message to take from the movie Jurassic Park.)

If I was working as a sysadmin, the number of admins was  1 and all I
had was root, I'd be screaming from the rafters.  Like my company, I
want protection from the actions of others (plausible denability).
Don't give me root's password - I don't want to know it.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: Vswitch and subnets

2008-04-16 Thread Marcy Cortes
The vswitch doesn't really advertise.

You can do a couple of things.
Get both of your systems hooked to the same subnet (vlan).  We've done
that.
Or get a vip address on a new subnet (like a /30 of your own) and run a
routing protocol (zebra, quagga) on your linuxes.

A vswitch can be part of more than one subnet, but you do have to set it
up that way out in the network.  So you could give both system A and
system B access to both subnets you have today.


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Subject: [LINUX-390] Vswitch and subnets

Good morning,

Running Oracle RAC and having a problem with supporting the way Oracle
does VIP address fail over.

This environment has two z9 systems running z/VM 5.3 with Vswitch on
each and a linux (rhel 44).

On each z/VM the Vswitch is setup to support a specific subnet.

Vswitch on System A side supports 192.168.127.*

Vswitch on System B side supports 192.168.87.*

Oracle on linux on system A has

  Home address   192.168.127.1 ETH0
  Oracle VIP192.168.127.2 ETH0:1
  Oracle Priv192.168.127.3 ETH1

Oracle on linux on system B has

  Home address   192.168.87.1 ETH0
  Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1
  Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1


* The problem;

If something happens on the system A side and access is lost (at any
level) Oracle on the system B side brings up via ETH0:2 the VIP address
of the lost system.

So now system B linux looks like this;

   Home address   192.168.87.1 ETH0
   Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1
   Oracle VIP   192.168.127.2   ETH0:2
   Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1


A Q VSWITCH DET shows the 192.168.127.2 address known in the Vswitch,
but it can not be routed to.

Is there anything that can be done in he Vswitch to help advertise just
this address only, since all the other 192.168.127.* addresses are still
on the other system...

Thank you,
Paul...
 

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
One thing that comes to mind is that you need to be sure you have MDC
set off for the volumes being shared.
 
(cp set shared on  ).

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Subject: [LINUX-390] OCFS2 Setup

Hello All,

I'm trying to set up a two node ocfs2 cluster and run it on two SLES10
SP1 guests running in two different z/VM 5.3 lpars.
The shared disk is an lvm volume comprised of 3390-3s, and I'm using the
standard disk-based heartbeat and port .

I was able to get this to work when both guests were running on the same
system, but the nodes won't connect if they are running on two different
z/VM systems. At first I thought it might be a network problem, but the
nodes can ping and ssh each other.
Is there something else that needs to be set up for this to work across
lpars?

Thanks.

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
Mark wrote:

Please note that OCFS2 is not supported for production use on Linux for
System z.  This is largely due to a lack of extensive enough testing/QA
work.  It should work for you, but at this time its only recommended for
testing.

Now, if one needed to have a file system r/w from more than 1 linux
server on z, what would the current supported recommendation be?  And is
anyone doing such with MQ Series?



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Re: Root file system is 90% full and I can't see why....

2008-05-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
THe question is.. how do I re-create these device entries so that the
are not regular files anymore?

I can tell you that they are created out of the script
/usr/share/doc/packages/devs/makedevs

You could probably delete them and rerun makedevs, but I'd back things
up first to make sure.


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Sles9 to 10 upgrades and disk naming

2008-05-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
We use /dev/disk/by-path 

names to label all of our disks on sles9 rather than the /dev/dasda.. In
zipl.conf for the root= as well as in /etc/fstab.

Now.. Sles10 has decided that instead of 
/dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.0100p1
It will call the disk
/dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.0100-part1

So the upgrade process doesn't work.
Is there a better way other than reverting back to /dev/dasda.. And then
changing it backup again when we're doing upgrading? 



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SLES 10 and /etc/sysconfig/proxy

2008-05-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
If I update /etc/syscongfig/proxy with our proxy server and include NO_PROXY
= localhost, wellsfargo.com , yast2 seems to ignore the no_proxy part and
still attempts to go throught the proxy server to get to the installation
source, which fails.   If proxy is turned off in that file, all is well with
yast, but then I can't get out for other stuff.

Is there something else I'm missing here before I open a ticket with Novell?


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Re: SLES 10 and /etc/sysconfig/proxy

2008-05-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
* sorry about the digital signature thing on the previous one

If I update /etc/syscongfig/proxy with our proxy server and include
NO_PROXY = localhost, wellsfargo.com , yast2 seems to ignore the
no_proxy part and still attempts to go throught the proxy server to get
to the installation
source, which fails.   If proxy is turned off in that file, all is well
with
yast, but then I can't get out for other stuff.

Is there something else I'm missing here before I open a ticket with
Novell?


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Re: Searching this archive

2008-05-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
Alan,
Try searching here http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/
instead.
Seems to work better for me (and faster). 


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Re: SLES 10 and /etc/sysconfig/proxy

2008-05-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
Noproxy would be the .wellsfargo.com stuff - where my installation
server is sitting.
I don't want it to attempt to go through proxy for that.   It won't
work.
I do have to go through the proxy to get to nu.novell.com or anything
else on the net for that matter.
Unless I turn off all proxy (PROXY_ENABLED=no in
/etc/sysconfig/proxy), I can't get yast2 to stay inside to see the
installation server.

Sles9 works the way I want.  Just sles 10 seems to ignore the noproxy
line.

I've been trying to open an SR, but apparently novell.com is all
confused about us again - I've got the account team looking at that.



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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:30 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES 10 and /etc/sysconfig/proxy

  On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:21 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 * sorry about the digital signature thing on the previous one
 
 If I update /etc/syscongfig/proxy with our proxy server and include 
 NO_PROXY = localhost, wellsfargo.com , yast2 seems to ignore the 
 no_proxy part and still attempts to go throught the proxy server to 
 get to the installation
 source, which fails.   If proxy is turned off in that file, all is
well
 with
 yast, but then I can't get out for other stuff.
 
 Is there something else I'm missing here before I open a ticket with 
 Novell?

Well, yes there is.  :)  The domain you want to have in your noproxy
list is likely nu.novell.com, right?


Mark

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Re: Sles9 to 10 upgrades and disk naming

2008-05-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
It can't find the root file system on the 1st boot and you don't get
very far.


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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Sles9 to 10 upgrades and disk naming

 On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:14 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 We use /dev/disk/by-path
 
 names to label all of our disks on sles9 rather than the /dev/dasda.. 
 In zipl.conf for the root= as well as in /etc/fstab.
 
 Now.. Sles10 has decided that instead of
 /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.0100p1
 It will call the disk
 /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.0100-part1
 
 So the upgrade process doesn't work.
 Is there a better way other than reverting back to /dev/dasda.. And 
 then changing it backup again when we're doing upgrading?

What exactly happens during the upgrade?  I haven't tried this myself,
so I don't know.


Mark Post

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Re: Sles9 to 10 upgrades and disk naming

2008-05-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 May 25 02:07 ccw-0.0.ff02 - ../../dasdl
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 May 25 02:07 ccw-0.0.ff02p1 - ../../dasdl1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 May 25 02:07 ccw-0.0.ff03 - ../../dasdm
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   12 May 25 02:07 ccw-0.0.ff03p1 - ../../dasdm1


Marcy 


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RPN01
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 12:57 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Sles9 to 10 upgrades and disk naming

I've noticed that the naming of the devices is very inconsistent. Just
within SuSE SLES 9, I see /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.07ffp1 and
/dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.07ff1. And as noted, this is different from
SLES 10 which had /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.07ff-part1.

Isn't the point of this to have predictable names for the devices? But
if you can't predict what the predictable name will be, how is it any
better than /dev/dasda and /dev/dasdb?


On 5/27/08 2:13 PM, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:14 PM, in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],

 Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We use /dev/disk/by-path

 names to label all of our disks on sles9 rather than the /dev/dasda..

 In zipl.conf for the root= as well as in /etc/fstab.

 Now.. Sles10 has decided that instead of
 /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.0100p1
 It will call the disk
 /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.0100-part1

 So the upgrade process doesn't work.
 Is there a better way other than reverting back to /dev/dasda.. And 
 then changing it backup again when we're doing upgrading?

 What exactly happens during the upgrade?  I haven't tried this myself,

 so I don't know.


 Mark Post

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Re: Sles9 to 10 upgrades and disk naming

2008-05-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
Not yet (bigger fishies to fry).
Little wary of doing so.  A fix would probably break our /etc/fstab
which is coded without the p's :).




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Mark Post
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:15 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Sles9 to 10 upgrades and disk naming

 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at  5:02 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Absolutely agree with that!
 
 There is also what I consider a bug in SLES 9 - if the address ends in

 a A-F as opposed to a 0-9, the p is left off.  We've coded around it

 where needed.  (See 900A-900F below).

That does indeed look like a bug.  Have you filed a problem report
against that?


Mark Post

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Re: express password ?

2008-05-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
Considering that SP2 only came out a week ago, that's hardly surprising.

FWIW, there are post-SP2 updates already, including a security kernel update
2.16.60-0.23 update from the 0.21 shipped with SP2.  It came out the 20th as
well.

Marcy


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Re: express password ?

2008-05-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
I think I figured this one out.  At least this is what it took for my
yup server to get it to grap SP2+ as well.
Try updating /etc/sysconfig/yup like this:
YUP_SUBVERSIONS=GA SP1 SP2

Or maybe better:
YUP_SUBVERSIONS=SP1 SP2
 


Marcy 
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Chase, John
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:50 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] express password ?

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Levy, Alan
 
 I want to log in to see the directory structure that is on 
 nu.novell.com.
 
 I have a local yum server that someone else maintains (and is on 
 vacation). I ran the move to sles10 sp2 patch and when I went back 
 into online update, there were no patches available.

Fascinating.  I observed the same result on a SLED 10.1 box at home
the other night.

I wonder if it's related?

-jc-

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Re: SLES Maintenance Mirror (was: Express Password?)

2008-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
A lot:

# du -cksh *
1.9GSLES10-SP1-Online
4.9GSLES10-SP1-Updates
2.1GSLES10-SP2-Online
58M SLES10-SP2-Updates
1.6GSLES10-Updates
11G total 


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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Thomas Kern
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:44 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [LINUX-390] SLES Maintenance Mirror (was: Express Password?)

Can anyone give a rough estimate of the DASD space required to hold all
of the maintenance for 'GA SP1 SP2' of SLES10? Having read Mark's
article on setting up a maintenance mirror, I am interested in trying
it, but do not want to be in the run it, increase space, run it,
increase space, run it, repeat until complete mode.

/Tom Kern

Mark Post wrote:
 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM, in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],

 Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think I figured this one out.  At least this is what it took for my

 yup server to get it to grap SP2+ as well.
 Try updating /etc/sysconfig/yup like this:
 YUP_SUBVERSIONS=GA SP1 SP2

 Or maybe better:
 YUP_SUBVERSIONS=SP1 SP2

 That didn't work for me without modifying the yup script itself.  To 
 avoid having a number of people spend some amount of time doing just 
 that, might I draw your attention to the Subscription Management Tool 
 that was announced in the SP2 press release: 
 http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-delivers-suse-linux-enterprise
 -10-enhancements-in-service-pack-2

 It's the second paragraph, and it's intended to be a _supported_
replacement for YUP, as well as having far more functionality.  I don't
believe it is available for download yet, contrary to the verbiage in
the press release, but if not, it should be within a couple of weeks.


 Mark Post


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Re: SLES 10 and /etc/sysconfig/proxy

2008-05-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Only my own.  No novell.com. 


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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:07 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES 10 and /etc/sysconfig/proxy

 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at  2:59 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Noproxy would be the .wellsfargo.com stuff - where my installation 
 server is sitting.
 I don't want it to attempt to go through proxy for that.   It won't
 work.
 I do have to go through the proxy to get to nu.novell.com or anything 
 else on the net for that matter.
 Unless I turn off all proxy (PROXY_ENABLED=no in 
 /etc/sysconfig/proxy), I can't get yast2 to stay inside to see the 
 installation server.
 
 Sles9 works the way I want.  Just sles 10 seems to ignore the noproxy 
 line.

What installation sources does YaST think you have?  If one of them is a
novell.com host, then you should remove it.


Mark

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Re: Intrusion Detection Solution for Suse SLES 10 on zLinux

2008-06-05 Thread Marcy Cortes
I recently read in the SLES 10 SP 2 release notes that AIDE is replacing
Tripwire in SLES. 
Not sure if that's the kind of tool you are looking for.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aide



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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Intrusion Detection Solution for Suse SLES 10
on zLinux

Robert Giordano wrote:
 I am looking for a software solution that is supported on zLinux SuSe 
 SLES 10 SP1 for Intrusion Detection. Any thoughts is greatly
appreciated!

I've not really tried it, but SNORT ships with SLES See
http://www.snort.org

mark

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Re: How do I pull the SP2 updates down with YUM?

2008-06-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
I think you need to upgrade yup.
Its working for me with yup-232-2.1 

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Subject: [LINUX-390] How do I pull the SP2 updates down with YUM?

How do I pull the SP2 updates down with YUM? I changed 
YUP_SUBVERSIONS=SP1? to YUP_SUBVERSIONS=SP1 SP2 in the YUP 
configuration. I also have YUP_DEST_DIR=/var/cache/yup so I created
the 
following SP2 directories there:

drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 80 Jun 27  2007 SLES10-SP1-Online
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 80 Jul 10  2007 SLES10-SP1-Updates
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 80 Jun  9 09:44 SLES10-SP2-Online
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 80 Jun  9 09:45 SLES10-SP2-Updates

However, after running yup, the SP2 directories are empty. I have been 
pulling SP1 updates successfully for quite some time. I know I am
missing 
something but cannot determine what. I am running yup-224-27.1

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Re: How do I pull the SP2 updates down with YUM?

2008-06-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
It might be possible that you have to register an SP2 system first.

FWIW - I don't have one registered.

Peter does SP1 work ok for you?

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 10:30 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] How do I pull the SP2 updates down with YUM?

 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Peter
E. Abresch Jr.   - at Pepco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Thanks Marcy and Marc,
 
 I downloaded the latest yup (yup-232-2.2) but am still having
problems.
 
 I am seeing
 
 curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 403
 --
 --
 Fetching

https://nu.novell.com/repo/$RCE/SLES10-SP2-Online/sles-10-s390x/repodata
/repomd.
 xml..
 . FAILED with e
 xit code 22
 Failure details:
 --
 --
 Warning: Illegal date format for -z/--timecond (and not a file name).
 Warning: Disabling time condition. See curl_getdate(3) for valid date 
 syntax.
 * About to connect() to nu.novell.com port 443
 *   Trying 72.246.210.34... connected
 * Connected to nu.novell.com (72.246.210.34) port 443
 * successfully set certificate verify locations:
 *   CAfile: /usr/share/curl/curl-ca-bundle.crt
   CApath: none
 
 
 I noticed that in the yup config I have the following new parameter 
 but do not quite understand what I should specify or whether it is 
 causing the problem. Any ideas?
 
 YUP_SP_SUBCHANS=

The YaST /etc/sysconfig editor will tell you what can go there.
Essentially it will be -Updates or -Online or both.

I just tested on my system, and I don't see the 403 errors.  That almost
always means some sort of authorization/permissions error on the server
side.  It might be possible that you have to register an SP2 system
first.  If that doesn't work, and you can still mirror SP1 updates, then
I would open an SR with Novell to find out why you don't seem to have
access to the SP2 channels.


Mark Post

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Re: SLES 10 SP1 and SP2 install defaults of disk by device-ID

2008-06-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
It's a bad choice of defaults on z.
It coming out of the HW.  My guess is your box had some changes made to
it, internally perhaps, or you are on a different volume.  All minidisks
on the same VM volume will have the same by-id, from what I can tell.

Makes cloning problematic too I suspect.  And problematic if you pprc I
think, although I haven't gotten that far with testing anywhere that we
have pprc.

I like device path personally.  The numbers look just like the numbers
you have to enter on the chccwdev command.

Marcy 

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Michael MacIsaac
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:10 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [LINUX-390] SLES 10 SP1 and SP2 install defaults of disk by
device-ID

Hi,

We have some SLES 10 SP1 and SP2 systems which were installed using the
default of identifying disks by device ID.

This weekend our raised floor took a power hit so all LPARs and disk
arrays crashed. Most Linux systems came back fine, but a few SLES 10 SP1
and SP2 systems that identified disks by device ID failed. Here are the
important console messages:
...
Loading jbd
Loading ext3
Waiting for device /dev/disk/by-id/ccw-IBM.7500030375.010b.22-part1
to
appear:
..not found -- exiting to /bin/sh

The systems had to be repaired manually. Once /etc/fstab and
/etc/zipl.conf (followed by mkinitrd and zipl) were modified to identify
disk by file name (e.g. /dev/dasda1), the systems came up fine.

What strikes me as surprising is that it seems the disks by-id could
not be found after a power hit (I have no idea where to find the value
ccw-IBM.7500030375.010b.22 in the above example). Why could the
system find the correct disk by name but not by ID?  Has anyone
experienced this?
(rebooting such systems has worked fine normally, so the power hit seems
to be related).

Also, just a heads-up for anyone with SLES 10 SP1 and SP2.  If you are
installing, you might want to click Fstab Options on the Edit
Partition panel and set the Mount in /etc/fstab radio button group to
device name. If you have systems that identify disk by ID, you might
want to test scenarios such as this.

Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED]   (845) 433-7061

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Re: SLES 10 SP1 and SP2 install defaults of disk by device-ID

2008-06-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
Yay!  We wish you success!

Mike, from the release notes:
http://www.novell.com/linux/releasenotes/s390x/SUSE-SLES/10/RELEASE-NOTE
S.en.html

Using Disks in z/VM
If SLES 10 is installed on disks in z/VM, which reside on the same
physical disk, the created access path (/dev/disk/by-id/) is not unique.
The ID of a disk is the ID of the underlaying disk. So if two or more
disk are on the same physical disk, they all have the same ID. 

To avoid this ambiguity, please use the access path by-path. This can be
specified during the installation when the mount points are definied. 

To change from by-id to by-path please perform the following steps: 


Modify /etc/zipl.conf to use by-path names, example:
parameters = root=/dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.0201-part1 TERM=dumb 
Have the boot configuration pick up the changes:
mkinitrd
zipl -V 
Change all by-id entries in /etc/fstab to by-path entries as well,
example:
/dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.0201-part1 / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1 
reboot to pick up changes  



So they tell you to change it (and say please)!!!  Scary just to move a
minidisk and have your linux not boot :)



Marcy Cortes 
Team Lead, Enterprise Virtualization - z/VM and z/Linux
Enterprise Hosting Services
w. (415) 243-6343 
c. (415) 517-0895 
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:17 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES 10 SP1 and SP2 install defaults of disk by
device-ID

 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at  5:11 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 It's a bad choice of defaults on z.
-snip-
 I like device path personally.  The numbers look just like the 
 numbers you have to enter on the chccwdev command.

If I am successful, that default will be changing to by-path with SLES10
SP3 and SLES11 for System z.


Mark Post

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Re: SLES 10 SP1 and SP2 install defaults of disk by device-ID

2008-06-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
And if you really want to use UID, you should install the recently
available VM64273 and follow the instructions in the sles10 sp2 release
notes.  

(although, still, I think a bad idea :) on z -- maybe a really good idea
on a peecee perhaps).



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Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES 10 SP1 and SP2 install defaults of disk by
device-ID

On Tuesday, 06/10/2008 at 05:15 EDT, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The uid comes from the storage device itself.  From one of my z/VM
guests:
 # cat /sys/bus/ccw/devices/0.0.0150/uid
 IBM.7500026069.1014.16

 It is supposed to be unique to the hardware device itself, based on
serial
 number, or some such thing.  If the actual hardware changes, so does
that
 value.  The by-name value gets generated by the Linux kernel, based 
 on
the
 order of the device numbers that get passed to it.  That's why the 
 names
are
 not persistent, and can change if the kernel parameters are changed
without
 preserving the original order.

The UID is indeed unique to the device.  It consists of manufacturer's
name, plant of manufacture, and a serial number.  That allows you to
identify a volume, independent of how you access it (UAs, device
numbers, chpids, etc.).

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: How do I pull the SP2 updates down with YUM?

2008-06-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
I get not authorized as well when pulling with that wget command and my
NCC id.  It does work, however with the credentials from my
/etc/sysconfig/yup (YUP_ID and YUP_PASS) - those were the mirror
credentials from ncc for my SLES 10 product in there.


Marcy
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Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:30 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] How do I pull the SP2 updates down with YUM?

Thanks for your patience, Mark, I enter the command and got exactly what
you expected.

Resolving nu.novell.com... 72.246.210.34 Connecting to
nu.novell.com|72.246.210.34|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized Reusing
existing connection to nu.novell.com:443.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized Authorization
failed.

I am still confused. I do not understand why I am not authorized. I am
registered for SLES10. I am fine with SLES10-SP1. How do I authorized
for SLES10-SP2?

Peter



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 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at  7:30 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Peter
E. Abresch Jr.   - at Pepco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From the YUP log I see the following Illegal date format error which 
 starts the errors off. I do not think this has any relation to 
 authorization problems but then I do not claim to be an expert on the 
 internal tickings of YUP.

The order the error messages come out don't necessarily reflect
chronology due to buffering or something.  If you cannot successfully
issue this command (with appropriate substitutions for nccuserid and
nccpassword):
wget --http-user=nccuserid --http-password=nccpassword
https://nu.novell.com/repo/\$RCE/SLES10-SP2-Updates/sles-10-s390x/repoda
ta/repomd.xml.asc


then you have a permissions problem.

 Marcy, we are running yup-232-2.2 and you said you are running 
 yup-232-2.1? Mark, which version of yup are you running? Maybe this is

 a yup problem?

 # rpm -q yup
yup-232-2.2


Mark Post

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Re: linux error during IPL requesting root password

2008-06-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
Felipe Bannwart Perina wrote:
 Hello all!

 Whenever one of our linux system crashes during IPL, I get this
message:

 fsck failed for at least one filesystem (not /).
 Please repair manually and reboot.
 The root file system is is already mounted read-write.


Does this happen often?   I'd be kinda concerned if it does.  Are they
journaled filesystems?


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Re: Linux guest on a diet

2008-06-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
It's actually simpler - you don't have to create any CDx directories.

Just mount the iso file somewhere with path ending in DVD1 and use that
as your installation source.
I used: /apps/installroot/SLES10/DVD1

So mount -t iso9660 -oloop SLES-10-SP2-DVD-s390x-GM-DVD1.iso
/apps/installroot/SLES10/DVD1

Marcy

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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:35 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux guest on a diet

I downloaded the SLES10-SP2 DVD ISO and copied it to my local Linux
server
in directory /usr/local/share/sles10-s390x/DVD. I have the following
directories, the CDx is from my original SLES10 installation.


drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 944 Apr 19  2007 CD1
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 224 Apr 19  2007 CD2
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 224 Apr 19  2007 CD3
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 224 Apr 19  2007 CD4
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 968 Jun 20 15:48 DVD

I go into YaST2 and add another NFS installation source. I enter my NFS
IP
address and Path to directory image is
/usr/local/share/sles10-s390x/DVD.
ISO Image option is not checked.

The file structure looks just like that of CD1. However, it fails with
the
following from the YaST2 log:



.
.
.
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [susetags]
SuseTagsImpl.cc(operator()):77 Probing for YaST source...
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [susetags]
SuseTagsImpl.cc(operator()):84 YaST source detected...
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [YCP] PackageCallbacks.ycp:986
Source nfs://10.10.33.245/usr/local/share/sles10-s390x/DVD is type YaST
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [YCP] PackageCallbacks.ycp:861
CloseSourcePopup: _source_open: 1
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [YCP] PackageCallbacks.ycp:858
Closing source progress popup
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [YCP] PackageCallbacks.ycp:861
CloseSourcePopup: _source_open: 0
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [YCP] PackageCallbacks.ycp:1060
Source probe end: error: url:
nfs://10.10.33.245/usr/local/share/sles10-s390x/DVD, error: NO_ERROR,
description:
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [YCP] PackageCallbacks.ycp:865
SourceCreateStart: nfs://10.10.33.245/usr/local/share/sles10-s390x/DVD
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [YCP] PackageCallbacks.ycp:776
Opening source progress popup: Creating source
nfs://10.10.33.245/usr/local/share/sles10-s390x/DVD
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [YCP] PackageCallbacks.ycp:834
OpenSourcePopup: _source_open: 1
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [zypp]
SourceFactory.cc(createSourceImplWorkflow):162 Trying to create source
of
type YaST
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [source] MediaSet.cc(redirect):64
Adding media verifier to redirected medium
2008-06-23 12:19:32 0 linuxyum(3142) [media]
MediaManager.cc(delVerifier):550 MediaVerifier change: id=7,
verifier=zypp::media::NoVerifier
2008-06-23 12:19:32 0 linuxyum(3142) [media]
MediaManager.cc(addVerifier):534 MediaVerifier change: id=7,
verifier=N4zypp6source10SourceImpl8VerifierE
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [source]
SourceImpl.cc(factoryCtor):177 Setting autorefresh: 1
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [susetags]
SuseTagsImpl.cc(cacheExists):553 Checking if source cache exists in
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [susetags]
SuseTagsImpl.cc(cacheExists):568 DATA not found, MEDIA not found,
MEDIA/media.1/media not found
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [susetags]
SuseTagsImpl.cc(factoryInit):590 Cache dir not set. Downloading to temp
dir: /var/tmp/zypp.eMhGpk/TmpDir.adwFTY
2008-06-23 12:19:32 0 linuxyum(3142) [media]
MediaManager.cc(checkDesired):113 checkDesired(7): desired (report by
N4zypp6source10SourceImpl8VerifierE)
2008-06-23 12:19:32 5 linuxyum(3142) [base] Exception.cc(log):94
MediaHandler.cc(getFile):1238 THROW:MediaHandler.cc(getFile):1238:
File './media.1/media' not found on medium
'nfs://10.10.33.245/usr/local/share/sles10-s390x/DVD'
2008-06-23 12:19:32 5 linuxyum(3142) [base] Exception.cc(log):94
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [susetags]
SuseTagsImpl.cc(downloadNeeded):224 media file used to determine if
source
changed not found. Assuming refresh needed.
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [susetags]
SuseTagsImpl.cc(saveMetadataTo):537 SuseTags source  has changed since
last download. Re-reading metadata into
/var/tmp/zypp.eMhGpk/TmpDir.adwFTY
2008-06-23 12:19:32 1 linuxyum(3142) [source]
SourceImpl.cc(resetMediaVerifier):411 Reseting media verifier
2008-06-23 12:19:32 0 linuxyum(3142) [media]
MediaManager.cc(delVerifier):550 MediaVerifier change: id=7,

Re: Question DASD on CLIENT from Start system instructions

2008-07-02 Thread Marcy Cortes
The other advantage to a small /boot minidisk of its own in a VM
environment is that if you mess it up (like your maintenance to the
kernel missed doing mkinitrd/zipl) , you can DDR a good one from a
another server.


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Edmund R. MacKenty
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Question DASD on CLIENT from Start system
instructions

On Wednesday 02 July 2008 12:02, Mark Post wrote:
Some people like to break /boot out into a separate partition, even on

System z.  It's not necessary, per se, since mainframe's don't have any

BIOS limitations to work around.  But, some people feel more 
comfortable  with it, or want their mainframe systems to look more like

their midrange  ones.

One reason for having /boot on a separate filesystem is to keep it safe.
Some distros (Gentoo, perhaps Debian?) default to a separate /boot
filesystem which is not mounted by default.  This keeps your pesky users
from mucking with it.  It also ensures that the /boot filesystem is
never mounted read-write during normal operations, including reboots.
This pretty much avoids the possibility of filesystem corruption.  The
only time you mount it read-write is when you have to install a new
kernel into it.

So a separate /boot is a safety measure.
- MacK.
-
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Software Architect
Rocket Software, Inc.
Newton, MA USA

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Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
Define systems management :) 

The items under 1 to me say monitoring, the items under 2 say
provisioning, 3 provisioning + patching (at least for Levanta
anyway).



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Subject: [LINUX-390] Systems management - quick survey?

Hello list,

I'm preparing for a SHARE presentation (week of Aug 11, San Jose, CA) on
z/VM and Linux systems management. If you use Linux and z/VM on System
z,
do you have time for a quick survey?

I tried to categorize what's available today into 4 main areas (I
apologize if I your software is not on the list, or if it listed as
Dead
or dying but is not. I do not also plan to address performance
management).  Here is the survey:

---snip---
Systems management software used:
1) Open source software:
 _ Hobbit
 _ Nagios
 _ Other ___
2) Priced software:
 _ CSL-Wave
 _ IBM Systems Director/Tivoli Provisioning Manager
 _ Mainstar Provisioning Expert (formerly Rocket Software)
 _ Other ___
3) Dead or dying (??):
 _ Aduva OnStage/Director
 _ Levanta
 _ Other ___
4) Roll your own systems management - comments:

What is your greatest need in z/VM and Linux systems management? :

Comments on z/VM and Linux systems management in general:
---snip---

Reply on or off-list. Your feedback is appreciated. Thanks.

Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED]   (845) 433-7061

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Reiser

2008-07-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
Hans Reiser leads police to body:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/07/BAN011LDR8.D
TL

Those still running reiserfs on their linux server may want to format
and try ext3...



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Re: can't download the compete dvd of sp10

2008-07-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
And you might just want to grab the SP2 one instead.  It is a complete
install disk replacement for the original sles10 disk.  Will save you
from having to update it later.
 

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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] can't download the compete dvd of sp10

 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  3:15 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Ayer, Paul W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi
 
 On the web page:
 http://download.novell.com/protected/Summary.jsp?buildid=0SF2mutIxKc~
 
 I have used the download button next to ;
 
 SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso  4.2 GB (4514115584) 
 
 
 The download completes successfully as far as my http session is 
 concerned but the file is only 219148288 in size ...
 
  -rw-r--r--   1 root root 219148288 Jul  9 14:59
 SLES-10-IBM_zSeries-DVD1.iso
 
 
 I did an md5 on if also it is's way off ... 
 
 
 What am I doing wrong please?

Most likely, you're using Internet Explorer.  Either use a different
browser, or download it directly to your Linux system:
wget -N --http-user=nccuserid --http-password=nccpassword
https://downloadurl from the download button.

I do this all the time, and it works fine.  To get the URL, right click
on the download button, and select the equivalent of copy the link
location.  Then paste that into your SSH session on the Linux system.


Mark Post

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Re: dvd download

2008-07-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
Re: wget on Linux - I think Paul already said he wasn't allowed out of
Linux to the internet.
But perhaps he could set up linux to use the same proxy server that his
IE is set up for and sneak out that way :)
(update /etc/sysconfig/proxy and run /sbin/SuSEconfig  on SuSE - be sure
to logout/in to get the new env variables).
 


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Try wget on Linux..  If you're on Windows -- well, I use Cygwin and have
wget on there..  For files this big, straight browser downloads don't
seem
to do well.  wget allows you do recontinue a broken xfer (wget -c)..   I
have terrible luck with very large files with just about anything but
wget and torrent clients..

Scott

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Ayer, Paul W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Ok after the Firefox session sitting at 4% for a long time for the sp0
 dvd1 it now says complete.

 The file size I got is   219,148,577  SLES-10-IBM zSeries-DVD1.iso
 (almost the same size as before with IE)

 Should be 4,514,115,584  Per the web page ...

 The directory has 41,055,455,777 bytes still free






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Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
 
One should ask some really tough questions :)
When was your last release for this platform?
What date is the next planned update?
How does that compare to the other platform?  Are they on the same
level?
How many other z customers do you have?
Can you give me references?
Quiz the marketing rep--- who else is he/she marketing too at the
moment?  Can we have some joint discussions/presentations?

(once bitten twice shy :)


I kinda feel for the vendors.  This is a very tough and really super
educated crowd.  (what other computer internet list can you get on and
not get ripped apart for being clueless ? :)  While that it is good,
that just means fewer vendors are going to tread into the z linux space
without a good sized handful of customers with checkbooks (unless they
are IBM - but hey, not even all their stuff runs on z linux :)  Even CA
hasn't made good progress in z Linux things and their pockets are
probably deep and they do understand the z customers.   We've had some
success in getting together with other large customers and pressuring
the vendors to deliver z linux agents for their stuff (we're not even
asking for the servers -- just the darn agents so we can fall in line
with the company choices -- choices made by the distributed world
czars). 

Levanta did really help with a lot of the systems management issues that
Mike asked about.  The interface to the VM directory (whether it be
VM:secure, Dirmaint/RACF, or xedit the big file) - call that 'virtual
bare metal' if you will, was flawless.  They solved the DASD sharing
problem transparently to the server with their mapfs filesystem.   Being
venture capitalist funded... They ran outta time (but imploded way way
after the rest of those who came on the map in 2000 :)





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Mark Post
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:06 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Systems management - quick survey?

 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at  2:38 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Michael MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Thanks to all who replied.
 
 I did get a note off-list that Aduva does still support System z:
Yes, we do still have a version that
supports Z - but most of our growth is really in the distributed Linux

and Solaris space.
 
 So I apologize to Aduva for suggesting their product might be dead.

Perhaps, but try finding any mention of that on their web site.


Mark Post

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Re: Reiser

2008-07-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
Yes, we have a whole department dedicated to vendor flogging and no one
doing any kernel building.  We call that function vendor management
(VM)(not to be confused with voice mail or virtual machine - VF would
have been a better acronym IMHO ;).


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On Monday, 07/14/2008 at 05:55 EDT, Erik N Johnson
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wrote:
 Building a kernel is not a herculean task by any measure.  It is 
 completely automated and the configuration can easily be done 
 graphically if you have an X11 server.  You probably need to go 
 looking for some literature before you try to boot up a machine as 
 expensive as a z10 on a homebrew kernel, but scads of PC Linux users 
 build their own kernel with every new release.  The benefit is perhaps

 to be questioned on big iron, bearing in mind that the folks like SuSE

 that provide those default builds also provide lots of the actual 
 kernel code.  Besides, the peripherals on a mainframe are much less 
 numerous and klugey, eliminating another big reason to roll your own.
 It's not hard, just not that useful.

It's not a question of difficulty.  When you build your own kernel, the
support you get from the distributors evaporates.  Corporate customers
need someone to flog in case things go bad, ergo no custom kernels by
policy.

Perhaps the distributors are more tolerant of custom kernels on other
platforms - I don't know.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: Adding SuSE 10 dasd

2008-08-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
Lea, 

Just vary it online (chccwdev -e 0.0.) and then mkinitrd and zipl.
 


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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Adding SuSE 10 dasd

The disk was defined in the VM directory for the Linux guest but was not
picked up during the boot. On SLES 8 we added them ZIPL.CONF but the
SLES 10 ZIPL.CONF file does not contain the disk range on the PARAMETERS
statement.

Lea Stahr
zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator
Navistar, Inc.
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That doesn't add a disk, it enables (think: vary online) an existing
disk.

Mauro Souza wrote:
 I usually add a dasd using
 chccwdev -e 0.0.0123

 have you tried it?


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Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
by-path is what we do

I couldn't find any down side to it - unless you like to change virtual
addresses in your VM directory entry randomly or something like that :)





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upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in
/etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

Is there a consensus on what should be used?

YAST gives me five choices.  I don't understand some of them:

Device name: I think this one is a problem if you add a device that has
a lower device number then an existing device.

Volume label: This might be a good way to go.  This will probably break
cloning.

UUID: This might also be a good way to go, if UUIDs are really as unique
as they should be.  This probably will not work for cloning.

Device ID: This one seems like a bad idea, since it breaks cloning, and
it fails if one Linux instance has two or more minidisk on the same
volume.

Device path: This looks like the best option to me.  Any down side to
this?


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David Boyes
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:22 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure
you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you
switch


A safety reminder: If you're planning to replace disk subsystems, make
sure your Linux guests (particularly any SLES 10 or above) guests do NOT
use by-ID paths in /etc/fstab. Fix this BEFORE the new disk goes in,
both RH and SuSE (Debian, too), or your guests will not be able to find
their filesystems (and thus won't boot or run).

 

This really should be in IBM and other DASD vendors planning information
for new installs, and I'd demand a fix from your Linux vendors. By-ID is
a stupid default for this architecture (for any architecture, I'd
argue...) and needs a fix ASAP. 

 

IBM, EMC, Hitachi: how do we get this added to your planning guides? RH,
Novell, how about it? 

 

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Re: z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

2008-08-13 Thread Marcy Cortes
z10's are reliable, but not perfect - they go down (well, z9's do :).
RAID disks fail too.  SW fails.  Nothing's perfect.  You have to figure
out the cost of providing redundancy in all layers vs. what an outage
costs you.  It's different for every app usually.
Have you seen this?  (watch for line wrap) 

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/library/whitepapers/pdf/HA
_Architectures_for_Linux_on_System_z.pdf



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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

On Wednesday, 08/13/2008 at 05:12 EDT, Tom Burkholder
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 So I contend that the z/10 h/w is reliable, the DASD is raid, the 
 vswitch can have failover OSA's, so as long as we alert and
don't
 fill up filesystems, we have a decent chance to keep the QMGR 
 available
on the
 z/Linux server.  Because of HACMP for AIX and Windows clustering,
everybody
 wants to know about z/Linux HA at the O/S level.

You need it.  It's not about the hardware, it's about people and
software.
 Your applications need protection from an *unplanned* outage, for a
variety of reasons:
- loss of power
- z/VM abend
- I *meant* to shutdown my 2nd level system

And, of course, there are other reasons you may PLAN to turn off the
machine, the LPAR, or VM (service).

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

2008-08-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
There's this http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-halinux2/
which discusses MQ.  We've got a project that wants to try this.
Nothing special for z/Linux except that the DASD would be accessible by
more than one LPAR and we need to make sure its not r/w on both.
Requires minidisk cache off, CSE perhaps to protect having r/w by more
than one system by accident.


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Alan and Marty,

Thanks... yes, I had previously read this HA architectures for Linux on
System z (which is a very good reference) and because we are a z/OS DB2
sysplex environment I can understand the WAS diagrams to use WebSphere
clustering to two z/Linux AppServers each running http and WebSphere.
In front of the http, we can use a network load balancer to balance
(redundant) to the http servers, and the backend z/OS db2 is on multiple
z/OS lpars within a sysplex.  These solutions I can understand and
provide appropriate redundancy based on what the app is willing to pay.
Currently, we only have one z/VM (still POC) and multiple z/Linux WAS
appservers (and still just testing, nothing production).

I've read about db2/udb's HADR and this, from what I understand with no
working knowledge, is a way to active/passive provide failover for
db2/udb, onto two (2) separate z/Linux servers.

What I haven't seen yet, is anything similar to the whitepaper below
explaining WebSphere AppServer and db2/udb or any docs on WebSphere MQ
High Availability for QMGR's on z/Linux.  Does anybody have any links
or docs that have something specific for MQ on z/Linux, similar to the
whitepaper doc below?

Thanks in advance,
Tom Burkholder



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Subject: Re: z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

z10's are reliable, but not perfect - they go down (well, z9's do :).
RAID disks fail too.  SW fails.  Nothing's perfect.  You have to figure
out the cost of providing redundancy in all layers vs. what an outage
costs you.  It's different for every app usually.
Have you seen this?  (watch for line wrap)

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/library/whitepapers/pdf/HA
_Architectures_for_Linux_on_System_z.pdf



Marcy
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Alan Altmark
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:14 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

On Wednesday, 08/13/2008 at 05:12 EDT, Tom Burkholder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So I contend that the z/10 h/w is reliable, the DASD is raid, the 
 vswitch can have failover OSA's, so as long as we alert and
don't
 fill up filesystems, we have a decent chance to keep the QMGR 
 available
on the
 z/Linux server.  Because of HACMP for AIX and Windows clustering,
everybody
 wants to know about z/Linux HA at the O/S level.

You need it.  It's not about the hardware, it's about people and
software.
 Your applications need protection from an *unplanned* outage, for a
variety of reasons:
- loss of power
- z/VM abend
- I *meant* to shutdown my 2nd level system

And, of course, there are other reasons you may PLAN to turn off the
machine, the LPAR, or VM (service).

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: Help with network settings on z/Linux

2008-08-19 Thread Marcy Cortes
Check your MTU sizes along the way.  Try ping with a large packet size
(-c ) and see if it gets through.  Tracepath command might be useful to
see what's happening along the way.  


Marcy 


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Subject: [LINUX-390] Help with network settings on z/Linux

Hi 

 

 

We have two environments that we are building as part of our POC. We
ship data via DB2 Connect from the mainframe DB2 to a Linux guest via a
HiperSockets Network. In our DEV environment all of our tables process
without issue. In our VAL environment there are six tables that the SQL
fails for. We have been engaged with IBM via a PMR on this and have been
going back and forth. At this point it appears that the issue is with
the number of rows. In the SQL when they do an SELECT * and do not
specify the rows it works. When they specify the tables in the Select it
apparently increases the size of the SQL and it never gets to the
mainframe. It looks like it is a 2k buffer limitation somewhere. Is
there anything in the TCP/IP stack in z/Linux or any network setting in
z/Linux that would enforce this limitation? 

 

IBM says that the TCP/IP and DB2 Connect on the z/OS side appear to be
ok. They are sending us back to look at the Linux settings.

 

This is the original error message: DSNL511I  .DB1I DSNLIENO TCP/IP
CONVERSATION FAILED  922   
 TO LOCATION 10.4.26.19

 IPADDR=10.4.26.19 PORT=32924


 
SOCKET=RECV RETURN CODE=1121 REASON CODE=   

 

Thank You,

 

Terry Martin

Lockheed Martin - Information Technology

z/OS  z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning

Cell - 443 632-4191

Work - 410 786-0386

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Re: z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

2008-08-19 Thread Marcy Cortes
Right - to have more than one system access it - only one side can be
r/w to it (unless you have some sort of clustering file system).  That's
why I suggested CSE to keep it safe - VM can protect the links.



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Fargusson.Alan
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To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

Even with minidisk cache off you can still have problems sharing a Linux
filesystems if any system has the filesystem mounted r/w.

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Marcy Cortes
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:32 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?


There's this http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-halinux2/
which discusses MQ.  We've got a project that wants to try this.
Nothing special for z/Linux except that the DASD would be accessible by
more than one LPAR and we need to make sure its not r/w on both.
Requires minidisk cache off, CSE perhaps to protect having r/w by more
than one system by accident.


Marcy
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Tom Burkholder
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:59 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

Alan and Marty,

Thanks... yes, I had previously read this HA architectures for Linux on
System z (which is a very good reference) and because we are a z/OS DB2
sysplex environment I can understand the WAS diagrams to use WebSphere
clustering to two z/Linux AppServers each running http and WebSphere.
In front of the http, we can use a network load balancer to balance
(redundant) to the http servers, and the backend z/OS db2 is on multiple
z/OS lpars within a sysplex.  These solutions I can understand and
provide appropriate redundancy based on what the app is willing to pay.
Currently, we only have one z/VM (still POC) and multiple z/Linux WAS
appservers (and still just testing, nothing production).

I've read about db2/udb's HADR and this, from what I understand with no
working knowledge, is a way to active/passive provide failover for
db2/udb, onto two (2) separate z/Linux servers.

What I haven't seen yet, is anything similar to the whitepaper below
explaining WebSphere AppServer and db2/udb or any docs on WebSphere MQ
High Availability for QMGR's on z/Linux.  Does anybody have any links
or docs that have something specific for MQ on z/Linux, similar to the
whitepaper doc below?

Thanks in advance,
Tom Burkholder



From: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy
Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:31 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

z10's are reliable, but not perfect - they go down (well, z9's do :).
RAID disks fail too.  SW fails.  Nothing's perfect.  You have to figure
out the cost of providing redundancy in all layers vs. what an outage
costs you.  It's different for every app usually.
Have you seen this?  (watch for line wrap)

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/library/whitepapers/pdf/HA
_Architectures_for_Linux_on_System_z.pdf



Marcy
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Alan Altmark
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:14 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

On Wednesday, 08/13/2008 at 05:12 EDT, Tom Burkholder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So I contend that the z/10 h/w is reliable, the DASD is raid, the 
 vswitch can have failover OSA's, so as long as we alert and
don't
 fill up filesystems, we have a decent chance to keep the QMGR 
 available

Re: z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

2008-08-19 Thread Marcy Cortes
The solution is that MQ is up only on 1 server at a time.  The HA
portion takes it down on one server (dismounts the disks) and up on the
other server (after remounting the disks).   


Marcy  
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Fargusson.Alan
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:15 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

Even if only one system has the filesystem mounted r/w the other systems
can see an inconsistent filesystem due to buffering.  The only safe way
is to mount the filesystem r/o everywhere, or use NFS or something
similar.

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Marcy Cortes
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:59 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?


Right - to have more than one system access it - only one side can be
r/w to it (unless you have some sort of clustering file system).  That's
why I suggested CSE to keep it safe - VM can protect the links.



Marcy
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Fargusson.Alan
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:45 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

Even with minidisk cache off you can still have problems sharing a Linux
filesystems if any system has the filesystem mounted r/w.

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Marcy Cortes
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:32 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?


There's this http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-halinux2/
which discusses MQ.  We've got a project that wants to try this.
Nothing special for z/Linux except that the DASD would be accessible by
more than one LPAR and we need to make sure its not r/w on both.
Requires minidisk cache off, CSE perhaps to protect having r/w by more
than one system by accident.


Marcy
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tom Burkholder
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:59 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

Alan and Marty,

Thanks... yes, I had previously read this HA architectures for Linux on
System z (which is a very good reference) and because we are a z/OS DB2
sysplex environment I can understand the WAS diagrams to use WebSphere
clustering to two z/Linux AppServers each running http and WebSphere.
In front of the http, we can use a network load balancer to balance
(redundant) to the http servers, and the backend z/OS db2 is on multiple
z/OS lpars within a sysplex.  These solutions I can understand and
provide appropriate redundancy based on what the app is willing to pay.
Currently, we only have one z/VM (still POC) and multiple z/Linux WAS
appservers (and still just testing, nothing production).

I've read about db2/udb's HADR and this, from what I understand with no
working knowledge, is a way to active/passive provide failover for
db2/udb, onto two (2) separate z/Linux servers.

What I haven't seen yet, is anything similar to the whitepaper below
explaining WebSphere AppServer and db2/udb or any docs on WebSphere MQ
High Availability for QMGR's on z/Linux.  Does anybody have any links
or docs that have something specific for MQ on z/Linux, similar to the
whitepaper doc below?

Thanks in advance,
Tom Burkholder



From: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy
Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:31 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: z/VM, Linux, MQ, HA?

z10's are reliable, but not perfect - they go down (well, z9's do :).
RAID disks fail too.  SW fails

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
From /etc/sysconfig/yup

# There are two options, to get the ID:
#
# 1. use the Machine ID: this value is in
#/etc/zmd/deviceid
#on the machine you registered with.
#
# 2. go to the Novell Customer Center and request
#mirror credentials to get updates to all your
#systems with one yup run
#http://www.novell.com/center/ 


The 1st way did not work for me either.  The second did.

That is, after I figured which proxy server would let me out of our env
- hopefully you too don't have a picky picky proxy server.




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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:29 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] 3270 console confusion

 On 8/22/2008 at  8:52 AM, in message 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
-snip-
 Thanks for the pointer. I have activated the product and configured 
 yup as documented but when I run it I get a lot of messages:
-snip-
 I have set YUP_ID and YUP_PASS to the values in /etc/zmd, so what have

 I missed?

That looks like the registration failed for some reason.  What does rug
sl and rug ca show you?


Mark Post

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Support dates for IBM products on new releases of SLES

2008-08-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
Have to do some 2009 planning...

How long is it typically between the availability of the next release of
SLES (or RHEL for that matter) before IBM will support WAS, DB2, MQ
Series on it?


Marcy 


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Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
With the defaults, your going to get all the patches from GA, SP1, and
SP2 plus the ones to take you from each of the levels to the other.
That'll be like 12G of stuff.
If you're already SP2 (either installed from that media or upgraded with
the DVD image), just pull the ones for SP2+.  Change YUP_SP_SUBCHANNELS
to -Updates and YUP_SUBVERSIONS to SP2.


On novell.com, be sure and login first or you won't find any s390x
stuff.
Here's a link to the latest kernel -
http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=HLu7cmk-lZA~ 
Wasn't easy to find -- took some hunting.
What I love is their Error!!  You seem to have encountered an error on
an otherwise perfect Web Site.  And no link to report that.


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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Robin Atwood
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:57 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] 3270 console confusion

On Friday 22 Aug 2008, Mark Post wrote:
  On 8/21/2008 at  4:11 PM, in message

 The first part of my article at
 http://www.zjournal.com/index.cfm?section=articleaid=992 talks about 
 how you register your system.  If you follow those directions, the 
 setup is done for you by the tools.

Ok, I give up, the yup thing is complete overkill, it downloaded 3GB of
rpms I have no interest in before it filled up the file-system. All I
want is *one* rpm file, maybe plus a dependency. It seems impossible to
find anything on the Novell website. If I go to the Patch finder and
select s390x, nothing is found. If I enter kernel-default into the
search field, no kernels are found. I am logged in, so please tell me,
what is the secret?

TIA
-Robin
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Re: Problem with chccwdev and SuSE SLES10 SP2

2008-08-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
It fails for me too on 0.27 kernel.
Looks like you have a bug to report.
 


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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Florian Bilek
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:32 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Problem with chccwdev and SuSE SLES10 SP2

Dear all,

I made a fall back on kernel 0.23 and the situation is that chccwdev is
working well. I am more convinced now that it has something to do with
the patch for the kernel 0.27.

Best regards,

Florian

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Neale Ferguson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Did you do a vmcp attach or link to get the device back into your 
 virtual machine configuration? The detach has removed the device so 
 the virtual machine cannot see it anymore.


 On 8/24/08 10:53 AM, Florian Bilek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  When I do now a e.g. chccwdev -e 0.0.3210 it is working, I can use 
  the
 disk.
  Then I do a unmount, chccwdev -d 0.0.3210 and a vmcp detach. Later, 
  when
 I
  want to do a second time this exercise, chccwdev retruns a fail and 
  a retcode 1.
 
  This is not only for this device but for any other I link and enable

  with chccwdev later. When I recycle the Linux Guest, it is working 
  again one time.
 
  I suspect the 0.27 kernel  but I have to prove this.
 
  Does somebody have the same expericene?

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Re: Rename vol label

2008-08-25 Thread Marcy Cortes
David's is the best answer, but if you must, use fdasd -l  to change
them. 


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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David Boyes
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:09 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Rename vol label

 How the volume label  can be changed for the  Z/linux machine which is

 cloned .


Use minidisks. Then you don't have to change them.

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Re: Two Different YaST2 Control Center displays

2008-08-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
It's impossible to get rid of some of these things too.  Sound drivers,
wireless, usb, pci utils, other things pre-req these type of things and
in the deleting them you get to a point that yast itself would have to
go too.  Although I did manage to get rid of alsa!



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Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 2:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Two Different YaST2 Control Center displays

Hmm..  a sound card on a z ..  I've often grumbled that the s390x
distros
need to exclude drivers for devices that don't even exist on a z ..
(or
maybe we can direct it to the HMC PC to entertain the ops folks?  ;-)

Scott Rohling

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Re: Differece in RED Hat and Suse

2008-08-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
I have to say I'm very impressed that SuSE can backport so many of those
new features that Linux dev is pumping out into the service stream
without requiring us to get to new versions, releases.  We have to go
through so many hours of certifications and checkouts and other vendor
concurrence to get new releases in that we're just now getting to SLES
10 on the eve of 11, +2 years past GA.  But getting to SLES9 SP4 has not
been traumatic at all - with zero impact to users.And the very long
support life will certainly help us -  the large enterprise customers
who have hundreds to upgrade..


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 On 8/27/2008 at 11:02 PM, in message
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Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 SUSE tends to be more 'bleeding edge' and RH tends to be more 'stable'

 (please - no flame wars on that - it's just my impression that RH is 
 very focused on stability - more so than SUSE).

Having seen what goes on from the inside for the last 18 months, I can
confidently say that you're incorrect about that.  After all, it was
SUSE that invented the concept of an enterprise Linux distribution.
Novell/SUSE isn't so crazy as to commit to supporting things for seven
years, and then not be extremely concerned about product stability.


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Re: YAST fails to grow an ext3 FS on LVM.

2008-08-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Works for me.  Just did that a couple of days ago.  With Yast. On SLES
10 SP 2.  Volume still mounted too.


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Subject: [LINUX-390] YAST fails to grow an ext3 FS on LVM.

Has anyone ask Novell why YAST fails to grow a logical volume that has
an ext3 filesystem on it?

I would, except we don't have support.


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Re: 127.0.0.2 in /etc/hosts?

2008-09-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
Nope.  Fresh installl of 10 sp2 looks like that here too. 


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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] 127.0.0.2 in /etc/hosts?

On Wednesday, 09/10/2008 at 11:18 EDT, Michael
MacIsaac/Poughkeepsie/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello list,

 On a SLES 10 SP2 system, it seems the last line in /etc/hosts is:
 # tail -1 /etc/hosts
 127.0.0.2   gpok189.endicott.ibm.com gpok189

 Where the DNS name of the machine is gpok189.endicott.ibm.com.  But
the
 IP address is not there.

 Why is 127.0.0.2 and not Linux's IP address there?  Is this 
 something new in SP2? I don't recall seeing it in older versions of
SLES.  Thanks.

That smells like someone manually created it.  127.anything, not just
127.0.0.2, is localhost.

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Re: Informix on zLinux ?

2008-09-19 Thread Marcy Cortes
We've certified it.  That means the DBA's have tested it, found that
all their tools work, and are happy supporting it.
I don't think they've found any apps that have any time or perhaps apps
with any $ to move.


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anyone doing this yet ?
We appear to be about to jump into this world and any advise is welcome.

We have 2 IFLs, VM 5.3 and SLES 10.1 ( or maybe 10.2 by now ) but are
truly raw rookies in this environment.
We are going to look at the Velocity toolset and take whatever tools IBM
has provided us - what else need to go into the toolkit ?

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Re: var subdirectory

2008-09-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
Try doing init 1
That'll take down all your processes.
 


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Subject: [LINUX-390] var subdirectory

I think I've painted myself into a corner.  My root subdirectory has
gotten full.  When I built this linux, /opt and a couple other subdir
were installed as separate mount points.  Now, I'd like to move var to a
separate dasd/mount point.  When I try to rm the var subdirectory, I use
the -rf command.  However, 5 subdir's won't delete. They are:

`var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/statd'
`var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/portmap'
`var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/nfs'
`var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/mount'
`var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/lockd'

I get an operation not permitted message.  I figure that maybe there
is a task running, so I go and kill some tasks that look like they might
be related to this, but still no luck.  I need to remove this subdir so
I can mount the new one (var).  I do not have a 2nd linux running
therefore, I cannot mount this disk to a 2nd one and delete var.
Basically, all I have is a linux command line in a 3270 session. I can't
putty into this linux under existing conditions.
Does anyone have any suggestion?
Thanks,
Steve

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Re: var subdirectory

2008-09-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
Once logged into root at the console, you can do the init 1 from there.

If you're not getting that far, you may have to boot your rescue system
and fix it from there.
 


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I tried doing init 1 at the command prompt after linux came up.  It
accepted the init command, but when I issue the rm statement, I get the
same messages.  When I issue a ps -ef command, all processes are still
running.  If I'm supposed to issue init 1 at startup time, where do I do
that?  At startup time, I get a list of kernels and I can issue a #cp
command to choose which kernel. If I have to do the init 1 here, how do
I do it?
Steve

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Try doing init 1
That'll take down all your processes.
 


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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:58 PM
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Subject: [LINUX-390] var subdirectory

I think I've painted myself into a corner.  My root subdirectory has
gotten full.  When I built this linux, /opt and a couple other subdir
were installed as separate mount points.  Now, I'd like to move var to a
separate dasd/mount point.  When I try to rm the var subdirectory, I use
the -rf command.  However, 5 subdir's won't delete. They are:

`var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/statd'
`var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/portmap'
`var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/nfs'
`var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/mount'
`var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/lockd'

I get an operation not permitted message.  I figure that maybe there
is a task running, so I go and kill some tasks that look like they might
be related to this, but still no luck.  I need to remove this subdir so
I can mount the new one (var).  I do not have a 2nd linux running
therefore, I cannot mount this disk to a 2nd one and delete var.
Basically, all I have is a linux command line in a 3270 session. I can't
putty into this linux under existing conditions.
Does anyone have any suggestion?
Thanks,
Steve

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Change the Linux from VSWITCH to DEDICATEd OSA addresses

2008-10-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
I have a Linux server (sles 10 sp 2) that is currently using VSWITCH
with no problems.
I need to change him to use a DEDICATEd OSA. 

I keep getting 
qeth: Could not register IP address 10.93.27.248 (rc=0xe080/57472) 

When I change the device from a NIC to 3 dedicated OSAs (same osa
cards).
I've tried both layer 2 and layer 3.

Any ideas?

The OSA is there it just doesn't seem to want to talk to the Linux
guest:
CP Q V OSA

OSA  3000 ON OSA   F408 SUBCHANNEL = 

 3000 DEVTYPE OSA CHPID D9 OSD

 3000 QDIO-ELIGIBLE   QIOASSIST-ELIGIBLE

OSA  3001 ON OSA   F409 SUBCHANNEL = 0001

 3001 DEVTYPE OSA CHPID D9 OSD

 3001 QDIO-ELIGIBLE   QIOASSIST-ELIGIBLE

OSA  3002 ON OSA   F40A SUBCHANNEL = 0002

 3002   TOKEN  = D2F75100

 3002 DEVTYPE OSA CHPID D9 OSD

 3002 QDIO ACTIVE QIOASSIST-ELIGIBLE  QEBSM

 3002

 3002 INP + 01 IOCNT =   ADP = 015 PROG = 000 UNAVAIL = 113

 3002  BYTES = 

 3002 OUT + 01 IOCNT =   ADP = 000 PROG = 000 UNAVAIL = 128

 3002  BYTES = 

 3002 OUT + 02 IOCNT =   ADP = 000 PROG = 000 UNAVAIL = 128

 3002  BYTES = 

 3002 OUT + 03 IOCNT =   ADP = 000 PROG = 000 UNAVAIL = 128

 3002  BYTES = 

 3002 OUT + 04 IOCNT =   ADP = 000 PROG = 000 UNAVAIL = 128

 3002  BYTES = 

 




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Re: Change the Linux from VSWITCH to DEDICATEd OSA addresses

2008-10-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
Nope, picking some address I know has never been used:
# ifconfig eth0 10.93.27.200 
ifconfig eth0 10.93.27.200

qeth: Could not register IP address 10.93.27.200 (rc=0xe080/57472)

Oct  7 15:36:42 tefvm-proxy kernel: qeth: Could not register IP address
10.93.27
.200 (rc=0xe080/57472)

 



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Mark Post
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:28 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Change the Linux from VSWITCH to DEDICATEd OSA
addresses

 On 10/7/2008 at  6:21 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I have a Linux server (sles 10 sp 2) that is currently using VSWITCH 
 with no problems.
 I need to change him to use a DEDICATEd OSA. 
 
 I keep getting
 qeth: Could not register IP address 10.93.27.248 (rc=0xe080/57472)

Is that the same IP address the system had on the VSWITCH?  If so, the
OSA probably thinks it's already in use.  What happens if you try an
address that isn't/wasn't in use before?


Mark Post

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Re: Change the Linux from VSWITCH to DEDICATEd OSA addresses

2008-10-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
But that's got to be a big lie :) --- it is working if it is on a
vswitch.  Just not with dedicates.
The cables are happy.  The ports are happy.  The physical switch is
happy.

What else would cause a reject?




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Bruce Hayden
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:43 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Change the Linux from VSWITCH to DEDICATEd OSA
addresses

An old post from the world traveling Alan Altmark said this about code
0xe080:

Now *this* I can help with.  See that RETCODE?  I recognize it as an OSA
reject code.  Those are documented in an appendix of the OSA/SF book.
It means that:
- a cable is not plugged into the port (both ends)
- the port has been disabled by the Support Element
- the port is not enabled on the physical switch

Bottom line: The OSA is suffering from sensory deprivation of one form
or another.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Marcy Cortes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nope, picking some address I know has never been used:
 # ifconfig eth0 10.93.27.200
 ifconfig eth0 10.93.27.200

 qeth: Could not register IP address 10.93.27.200 (rc=0xe080/57472)

 Oct  7 15:36:42 tefvm-proxy kernel: qeth: Could not register IP 
 address
 10.93.27
 .200 (rc=0xe080/57472)





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Re: Change the Linux from VSWITCH to DEDICATEd OSA addresses

2008-10-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
Yep, same chpid.
This is on a z10, z/VM 5.4, sles 10 sp2.
Maybe I should go try in on a z9, z/VM 5.3 and sles9 sp4 just for grins
since it sounds like it ought to work!




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Mark Post
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:56 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Change the Linux from VSWITCH to DEDICATEd OSA
addresses

 On 10/7/2008 at  6:46 PM, in message
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Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 But that's got to be a big lie :) --- it is working if it is on a 
 vswitch.  Just not with dedicates.
 The cables are happy.  The ports are happy.  The physical switch is 
 happy.

Are you sure what is/was being used for the VSWITCH is on the same CHPID
as the new device you're trying to use?  Each card has two possible
cable connections (4 with the new z10s).


Mark Post

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Re: Kjournal questions

2008-10-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
What disk HW is it?

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Thank you.  Unfortunately for us, the ESADS reports are for 3390s.  We
are using FCP-attached SCSI.
Betsie 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:45 PM
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Check your DASD Cache statistics (ESADSD5 on ESAMAP). This kjournal
problem happens when the Non-volatile storage in cache controller fills
up - dasd performance gets terrible and kjournal uses more CPU.



Spann, Elizebeth (Betsie) wrote:

 Hi,

 We've noticed that the kjournal process takes up almost 30% of our 
 processing at times.
 When I ran mke2fs -jI let it default. Would this be a block size
of
 4096?
 Should I have used  -E stride=stripe-size? If so, are there
 recommendations for large files?
 We have raid 5 and raid 1.

 Betsie


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Re: Kjournal questions

2008-10-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
Betsie, contact EMC and ask them why, as Barton said, the cache
controller NVS is full.  I've heard you are not the only one to
experience this.



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EMC DMX4-950. RH OS is on EDEVICE.  Local file systems are FCP-attached
SCSI.  VM uses 3390 disks.
 
Betsie 

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What disk HW is it?

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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Kjournal questions

Thank you.  Unfortunately for us, the ESADS reports are for 3390s.  We
are using FCP-attached SCSI.
Betsie 

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Barton Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:45 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Kjournal questions

Check your DASD Cache statistics (ESADSD5 on ESAMAP). This kjournal
problem happens when the Non-volatile storage in cache controller fills
up - dasd performance gets terrible and kjournal uses more CPU.



Spann, Elizebeth (Betsie) wrote:

 Hi,

 We've noticed that the kjournal process takes up almost 30% of our 
 processing at times.
 When I ran mke2fs -jI let it default. Would this be a block size
of
 4096?
 Should I have used  -E stride=stripe-size? If so, are there
 recommendations for large files?
 We have raid 5 and raid 1.

 Betsie


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FW: [LINUX-390] Change the Linux from VSWITCH to DEDICATEd OSA

2008-10-10 Thread Marcy Cortes


-OK,

I went and tried it with the sles10 sp2 rescue system image from the DVD to
make sure it wasn't my guest.
Same problem.

I then went and tried the sles10 SP2 rescue system image from a z9 with z/VM
5.3 That worked.

So, I'm sure the HW is fine (it runs the vswitch - why couldn't it run it
dedicated, right?)

So, it's likely z/VM 5.4, or perhaps the z10 - but I find that hard to
believe since the OSA does function on vswitch.

I guess I'll open a PMR.


Marcy




Yep, same chpid.
This is on a z10, z/VM 5.4, sles 10 sp2.
Maybe I should go try in on a z9, z/VM 5.3 and sles9 sp4 just for grins

since it sounds like it ought to work!




Marcy


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addresses

 On 10/7/2008 at  6:46 PM, in message

Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But that's got to be a big lie :) --- it is working if it is on a
 vswitch.  Just not with dedicates.
 The cables are happy.  The ports are happy.  The physical switch is
 happy.

Are you sure what is/was being used for the VSWITCH is on the same CHPID as
the new device you're trying to use?  Each card has two possible cable
connections (4 with the new z10s).


Mark Post

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Re: IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere

2008-10-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
Yes, it does run on Linux for z.
We trialed it.

Marcy 

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Subject: [LINUX-390] IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for
WebSphere

Does anyone have IBM Tivoli Composite Application Manager for WebSphere
running on zLinux or know if it will run there? The manual does not
mention this environment.

Lea Stahr
Senior Systems Engineer
   Linux and zLinux 
  Navistar, Inc.
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Re: SuSE 10 SP 2 - New Install - Misc Questions

2008-10-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
Welcome newbie :)

1) I've seen it too on SP2.  You can just copy the file in
/etc/sysconfig/hardware/ and the file in /etc/sysconfig/network files
that correspond to the existing interace to appropriately named new
files and edit with vi, changing the IP and chanids.  With 2 interfaces,
you'll have to figure out your routing, but you probably knew that
already.

2) We too have a proxy server that can't see to get to Novell Customer
Center.  Mark Post worked with me for quite some time and was very
close to figuring it all out (likely malformed request and their inbound
is pickier than your average bear ) when I suddenly found another proxy
server within the bank that worked just fine and I dumped him and moved
on to my next challenges. 




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David Stuart
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Subject: [LINUX-390] SuSE 10 SP 2 - New Install - Misc Questions

Morning all, 

newbie on

Yesterday I completed a new install of SLES 10 SP 2 into an LPAR. During
the install, I defined one OSA-Express port, and it appears to be
working fine.  However, I have several networking related nuisances and
questions.

1)  How do you define a second OSA-Express port?  I tried defining it
using YAST, but the OSA-Express is running QDIO, and YAST seems to treat
each individual address as a separate network card, rather than using
the three required for QDIO.  I chose a network type of QETH.  I didn't
see anything specific to QDIO, but thought QETH was probably the
closest. 

2)  Novell Customer Center - We have a proxy between our internal
network and the internet.  I configured the proxy, and the 'test
connection' says that it works ok, but when I try to 'register', check
for patches, etc.,  it says that it can't connect. 

And that's enough for so early in the morning. 

/newbie on

TIA,
Dave 






Dave Stuart
Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst
County of Ventura, CA
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