Re: Camera colours (was: How useful is SDM?)

2010-01-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/1/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

I parsed my last sentence and realized I'd typed hot oink instead of
hot pink.  I didn't want  to recieve a Mark! on THAT ONE. :-)

Not so quick there Tonto.

Mark!

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PEOW: Superstar Darius

2010-01-14 Thread Jay Taylor

Hi folks,
Been a while since I've posted here, but I've been without a Pentax  
body for a while. Hopefully that will be changing real soon.

Here is an image of my grandson Darius (6) in his second year of soccer:

http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Sports/Canon-Sports-Images/D32546/759297325_kZPKt-X2-1.jpg

(captured with that other brand)

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Re: PEOW: Superstar Darius

2010-01-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/1/10, Jay Taylor, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi folks,
Been a while since I've posted here, but I've been without a Pentax
body for a while. Hopefully that will be changing real soon.
Here is an image of my grandson Darius (6) in his second year of soccer:

http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Sports/Canon-Sports-Images/
D32546/759297325_kZPKt-X2-1.jpg

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Re: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/1/10, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

Can anyone recommend a Mac freeware or shareware web page building program?

My wife needs to create a simple page with a course syllabus, and links
to PDFs of reading material--nothing at all fancy.

My 15 yr old son put 3 pages together using iWeb having never used the
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Re: Camera colours (was: How useful is SDM?)

2010-01-14 Thread Derby Chang

Cotty wrote:

On 13/1/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

I parsed my last sentence and realized I'd typed hot oink instead of
hot pink.  I didn't want  to recieve a Mark! on THAT ONE. :-)



Not so quick there Tonto.

  



Tom, you need a subscription to Bacon Busters magazine. Just ask, and I 
can make it happen


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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-14 Thread Sandy Harris
On 1/3/10, Carlos R carlos_r...@teleline.es wrote:

 Besides the excellent 16-45 that some people suggested, there is the FA
 20-35. Small, AF and high IQ too, though you would have to look for a second
 hand one.

That looks good but BH and Amazon don't list it, and the one Hong Kong
dealer I've found with a web catalog (http://www.tincheungcamera.com.hk/)
want nearly $1000 US for it, 7500-odd HK vs about a third of that for the
16-45.

Was there ever an A or F version of this?

I've found some references to an M 20-35/3.5
(http://stans-photography.info/BriefComments.html#24-35%20mm%20f/3.5%20M)
but not anything between it and the expensive FA.

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Re: Construction VIII

2010-01-14 Thread Derby Chang

Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

Despite the ugly light today (cold  overcast), I did some 
construction shooting today.  The progress thus far is AMAZING.  
There's text below each picture.  It's late here,  I'm listening to 
The Who--so whoo are you, hoo, hoo--hoo, hoo  :-).



http://www.caguila.com/caguila/upramp2/

Comments welcome,
cheers, Christine


The light definitely didn't hurt your shoot. Excellent documentary work, 
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Re: Peso: Apostrophe

2010-01-14 Thread Larry Colen

The crux of the citrus?

On Jan 13, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Bran Everseeking wrote:


a href=http://www.flickr.com/photos/bran-everseeking/4273259880/;
title=IMGP0953.png by Bran Everseeking, on Flickrimg
src=http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4273259880_e84ee31e38_o.jpg;
width=537 height=800 alt=IMGP0953.png //a

or the smaller link

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4273259880_e84ee31e38_o.jpg


I like it. Nice use of colors. I think that I'd like it a bit more if  
the background (is that a sweatshirt?) were more in shadow, though I  
don't know how to do that and still have light on the fruit.  LIkewise  
the little bit of color in the upper right corner is a bit distracting.


If you see some fruit based still lifes coming from me in the near  
future, consider it a sincere compliment.  There's something I like  
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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-14 Thread Derby Chang

Sandy Harris wrote:

I'm on a limited budget, looking for fairly lightweight travel
combination. I have a fairly strong bias toward primes, though just
getting the 16-50 as a single lens does tempt me some.

My last good camera (stolen some time back  not yet replaced) was an
MX and on it, I used the 85/1.4 for at least 75% of shots and a 28 for
most others. I had the 40 mm pancake and a teleconverter, didn't use
either much. So this one will be a K-X with the 58/1.4 Voigtlander.
Comments on that choice appreciated too.

What I really want to know, though, is what can folks suggest as a
wide angle to go with that? Zeiss is beyond my budget and a 12-24 or
10-20 zoom too heavy. I need a good prime, around 24 mm, at a moderate
price. The Pentax 21/3.2 Limited and Sigma 24/1.8 are obvious
possibilities; either might suit but I'm not sure either is ideal for
me.

What else should I be considering? Checking Pentax's site, I don't see
a 24/2 or 24/2.8 among current offerings.

  


Very very late on this, but despite the naysayers, I've had pretty good 
experience with half a dozen Sigma EX lenses. The 20/1.8 is my favourite 
widey for gig shots (have a PDML Book submission taken with it), and I'd 
say the 24/1.8 is a tad more useful than the FA24/2. May just be luck, 
but in extreme lighting, the Sig 24 is sharper, has less PP, and focuses 
slightly closer.


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Re: OT: North American International Auto Show

2010-01-14 Thread Derby Chang

P N Stenquist wrote:
Worked the show for the NY times: 13 hours yesterday and a few more 
this morning. I was on-board as a writer, not a photographer, so I 
carried only my Panasonic PS, but a couple of my pics did make it 
onto the web pages. You can see my posts from the show here: 
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/author/paul-stenquist/




Very entertaining blog-read.

Good luck to them, but darn that Chrysler Gem is a fugly creation

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RE: Peso: Apostrophe

2010-01-14 Thread Bob W
 
  http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4273259880_e84ee31e38_o.jpg
 
 I like it. Nice use of colors. I think that I'd like it a bit 
 more if the background (is that a sweatshirt?) were more in 
 shadow, though I don't know how to do that and still have 
 light on the fruit.  [...]

Black velvet

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-14 Thread Larry Colen


On Jan 14, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Derby Chang wrote:




Very very late on this, but despite the naysayers, I've had pretty  
good experience with half a dozen Sigma EX lenses. The 20/1.8 is my  
favourite widey for gig shots (have a PDML Book submission taken  
with it), and I'd say the 24/1.8 is a tad more useful than the  
FA24/2. May just be luck, but in extreme lighting, the Sig 24 is  
sharper, has less PP, and focuses slightly closer.


About a month ago, I picked up a Sigma 20/1.8.  In most respects, I  
really liked the lens. Unfortunately, something about the manual focus  
felt very lumpy. I mentioned this problem on the list.  I talked with  
Sigma, decided that I'd send it in for repair, but after the  
holidays.  The lens worked, it was just a bit unpleasant to use.


This week I was going to pack it up to ship it off to Sigma. While I  
was writing the letter describing the problems, I realized that the  
mysterious lumpiness had gone away.  I don't know what the problem  
was, maybe a lump of grease on one of the gears, but it seems to have  
solved itself.


Over all, I'm very happy with the lens.  Here's a set that I shot  
tonight with it:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=177374id=653299672l=90b4340ed6
Band at ISO 400-640, dancers at 3200, all manual focus, manual  
exposure (1/10-1/25 sec at f/1.8)


The focus still feels like a cheap kit lens, but it's reasonably  
sharp, and it's fast enough for my uses.


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Babes Boars Bores (was: Camera colours (was: How useful is SDM?))

2010-01-14 Thread eckinator
2010/1/14 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:
 Cotty wrote:
 On 13/1/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I parsed my last sentence and realized I'd typed hot oink instead of
 hot pink.  I didn't want  to recieve a Mark! on THAT ONE. :-)

 Not so quick there Tonto.

 Tom, you need a subscription to Bacon Busters magazine. Just ask, and I can
 make it happen
 http://www.isubscribe.com.au/title_info.cfm?prodID=1105

hmmm... can we please get back to hot pink now?

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Re: PEOW: Superstar Darius

2010-01-14 Thread eckinator
2010/1/14 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:

 That's an excellent shot mate.

absolutely - and did you notice the ball smiling? perfect accidental timing =)

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Re: PaD- Photo a Day no. 20

2010-01-14 Thread eckinator
You've got that one cornered - well done!
Cheers
Ecke

2010/1/14 Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net:
 http://365xclick.blogspot.com/2010/01/night-munchies-20365.html


 I am quite project driven of late.  I have been trying to shoot the
 corner stores around Saskatoon before they all go under to the 7-11 and
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Re: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread Larry Colen


On Jan 13, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Can anyone recommend a Mac freeware or shareware web page building  
program?


emacs




My wife needs to create a simple page with a course syllabus, and  
links to PDFs of reading material--nothing at all fancy.




I'm only half joking about using a text editor.  If all you need is  
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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread AlunFoto
Sorry to hear, Stig.
I should perhaps add that a Canon D-7 succumbed to moisture at the
particular landing where I took my photo. Fortunately it came back to
life after roughly two days of drying out, but in principle it's a
camera with about the same level of weather protection as has the K-7.
So maybe I was lucky? At least I was deliberately pushing my luck...

Jostein

2010/1/14 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:
 My K-7 stopped working after two hours in rain and is currently at Pentax for 
 repair which I have to pay myself. I was told by Pentax that it is not meant 
 to withstand normal autumn rain in Norway for two hours. The sealing was 
 meant for withstanding light rain for a short time, I was told. So from now 
 on I have to treat it like its not weather proofed at all.

 Stig Vidar Hovland


 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Jim King 
 [jamesk8...@mac.com]
 Sendt: 13. januar 2010 19:25
 Til: pdml@pdml.net
 Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

A great example of K-7/DA* weatherproofing.  You ought to send it to
Pentax as a candidate for an advertisement.

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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread SV Hovland
I don't think its going to be expensive. My camera started to work again after 
two days on drying and I used it for a month or two before I sent it in. Pentax 
confirmed residual of water inside, but I was lucky and no circuit boards or 
mechanics seemed to be damaged. So it ended up in a small service which 
shouldn't cost me to much. But I am still surprised about the response I got 
after all the marketing Pentax has done on its weather resistance. I would 
believe it could be used in normal autumn weather in Norway, but not so.

For those interested: It rained 3-4mm / hour which my K-7 was able to handle 
for a period of two hours. 3-4mm / hour is perhaps a lot of rain, but still 
normal where I live.

Stig Vidar Hovland


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Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

Sorry to hear, Stig.
I should perhaps add that a Canon D-7 succumbed to moisture at the
particular landing where I took my photo. Fortunately it came back to
life after roughly two days of drying out, but in principle it's a
camera with about the same level of weather protection as has the K-7.
So maybe I was lucky? At least I was deliberately pushing my luck...

Jostein

2010/1/14 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:
 My K-7 stopped working after two hours in rain and is currently at Pentax for 
 repair which I have to pay myself. I was told by Pentax that it is not meant 
 to withstand normal autumn rain in Norway for two hours. The sealing was 
 meant for withstanding light rain for a short time, I was told. So from now 
 on I have to treat it like its not weather proofed at all.

 Stig Vidar Hovland


 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Jim King 
 [jamesk8...@mac.com]
 Sendt: 13. januar 2010 19:25
 Til: pdml@pdml.net
 Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

A great example of K-7/DA* weatherproofing.  You ought to send it to
Pentax as a candidate for an advertisement.

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Re: OT: North American International Auto Show

2010-01-14 Thread paul stenquist

On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:50 AM, Derby Chang wrote:

 P N Stenquist wrote:
 Worked the show for the NY times: 13 hours yesterday and a few more this 
 morning. I was on-board as a writer, not a photographer, so I carried only 
 my Panasonic PS, but a couple of my pics did make it onto the web pages. 
 You can see my posts from the show here: 
 http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/author/paul-stenquist/
 
 
 Very entertaining blog-read.
 
 Good luck to them, but darn that Chrysler Gem is a fugly creation
 
Sure is. Chrysler didn't really design it and doesn't build it. They bought the 
company that makes them about ten years ago. It's a nice cash cow. I shot a 
commercial with a couple of them about six years ago. Drove one around Santa 
Monica a bit. They're a hoot in a small beach town where it never rains.
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Re: PEOW: Superstar Darius

2010-01-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Jay Taylor
taylorjohn...@cablespeed.com wrote:
 Hi folks,
 Been a while since I've posted here, but I've been without a Pentax body for
 a while. Hopefully that will be changing real soon.
 Here is an image of my grandson Darius (6) in his second year of soccer:

 http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Sports/Canon-Sports-Images/D32546/759297325_kZPKt-X2-1.jpg

That is a terrific photo.

What's a PEOW?

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Re: Peso: Apostrophe

2010-01-14 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Bran Everseeking
bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote:
 a href=http://www.flickr.com/photos/bran-everseeking/4273259880/;
 title=IMGP0953.png by Bran Everseeking, on Flickrimg
 src=http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4273259880_e84ee31e38_o.jpg;
 width=537 height=800 alt=IMGP0953.png //a

 or the smaller link

 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4273259880_e84ee31e38_o.jpg

Very nice!

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Re: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread Perry Pellechia
Kompozer (http://kompozer.net/) is an open source WYSIWYG editor and
does a nice job.  My wife uses it for her course website which she
uses to distribute course readings and other PDF documents.


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On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a Mac freeware or shareware web page building program?

 My wife needs to create a simple page with a course syllabus, and links to 
 PDFs of reading material--nothing at all fancy.

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Re: Peso: Apostrophe

2010-01-14 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:41:51 -0800
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

  http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4273259880_e84ee31e38_o.jpg
 
 I like it. Nice use of colors. I think that I'd like it a bit more
 if the background (is that a sweatshirt?) were more in shadow, though
 I don't know how to do that and still have light on the fruit.
 LIkewise the little bit of color in the upper right corner is a bit
 distracting.
 
 If you see some fruit based still lifes coming from me in the near  
 future, consider it a sincere compliment.  There's something I like  
 about that photo that makes me want to play with the concept.

A sweatshirt with surprisingly little cat hair...

can you believe i did not see the mess in the UL corner until you
mentioned it?  

Thanks for spending time with it. Bob n frank too.

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Re: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread P N Stenquist


On Jan 13, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Can anyone recommend a Mac freeware or shareware web page building  
program?


My wife needs to create a simple page with a course syllabus, and  
links to PDFs of reading material--nothing at all fancy.


iWeb is very easy. Probably came with her Mac. It provides templates  
and plenty of help.

Paul


Rick

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Re: PESO - You've Got Mail!

2010-01-14 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:

She's a couple of blocks from my house so I pass by it often, but last
night the light from the streetlights was hitting  her in a way that
made me decide to take a picture:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/youve-got-mail.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.


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Re: PESO: A lineup of the usual suspects

2010-01-14 Thread Christian

P N Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10497232size=lg

K20D, DA# 50-135, f5.6, ISO 400



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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-14 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/14/2010 3:34 AM, Sandy Harris wrote:

On 1/3/10, Carlos Rcarlos_r...@teleline.es  wrote:

   

Besides the excellent 16-45 that some people suggested, there is the FA
20-35. Small, AF and high IQ too, though you would have to look for a second
hand one.
 

That looks good but BH and Amazon don't list it, and the one Hong Kong
dealer I've found with a web catalog (http://www.tincheungcamera.com.hk/)
want nearly $1000 US for it, 7500-odd HK vs about a third of that for the
16-45.

Was there ever an A or F version of this?

I've found some references to an M 20-35/3.5
(http://stans-photography.info/BriefComments.html#24-35%20mm%20f/3.5%20M)
but not anything between it and the expensive FA.

   
The FA 20-35mm is a very nice lens, but hardly worth $1000 USD or AUS 
for that matter.  I think I paid ~$250 for mine brand new in box with US 
warrantee.  I keep thinking that there's Gold in my lens collection.  
There was no A or F version of this lens.


Try http://www.keh.com they have one in stock for $299.00  listed as 
EX+.  They usually grade very conservatively, I'd expect that it would 
be mint by any other company's standards.


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RE: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Rick Womer

Can anyone recommend a Mac freeware or shareware web page building
program?

My wife needs to create a simple page with a course syllabus, and
links to PDFs of reading material--nothing at all fancy.

Rick


Is it something you could do with Micro$oft Office?

If so, Open Office will work. There's an OS-X version available.

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Re: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread P. J. Alling

Nobody should ever generate HTML with Microsoft office.

On 1/14/2010 11:54 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Rick Womer

Can anyone recommend a Mac freeware or shareware web page building
program?

My wife needs to create a simple page with a course syllabus, and
links to PDFs of reading material--nothing at all fancy.

Rick


Is it something you could do with Micro$oft Office?

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Sandy Harris

On 1/3/10, Carlos R carlos_r...@teleline.es wrote:

 Besides the excellent 16-45 that some people suggested, there is the FA
 20-35. Small, AF and high IQ too, though you would have to look for a second
 hand one.


That looks good but BH and Amazon don't list it, and the one Hong Kong
dealer I've found with a web catalog (http://www.tincheungcamera.com.hk/)
want nearly $1000 US for it, 7500-odd HK vs about a third of that for the
16-45.


KEH is currently showing one 20-35 F4 SMC FA AL (58) 35MM SLR AUTO 
FOCUS ZOOM SUPER WIDE ANGLE LENS ... Condition EX+ at $399. (USD)


Plus whatever they charge for shipping it from Atlanta. I don't know 
what you would have to deal with as far as customs and whatever.


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OT - Kodak's survival plan?

2010-01-14 Thread Bruce Walker
The headline is Kodak is suing Apple and RIM for patent infringement. 
When I read about the nature of the patents involved ...


Kodak alleges that Apple is infringing on two patents covering image 
preview and the processing of images of different resolutions. The 
second suit is focused on technology that allows one application to ask 
another program for help completing a computing task.


... it occurred to me that here is revealed Kodak's survival tactic: 
patent troll! :-)


http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=29558tag=nl.e589


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RE: Peso: Apostrophe

2010-01-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

 
  http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4273259880_e84ee31e38_o.jpg
 
 I like it. Nice use of colors. I think that I'd like it a bit 
 more if the background (is that a sweatshirt?) were more in 
 shadow, though I don't know how to do that and still have 
 light on the fruit.  [...]


Black velvet


I'll drink to that.

http://www.ireland-information.com/irishrecipes/blackvelvet.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UTRMP1Uk1k

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RE: Babes Boars Bores (was: Camera colours (was: How useful, is SDM?))

2010-01-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: eckinator

2010/1/14 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:

 Cotty wrote:

 On 13/1/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:



 I parsed my last sentence and realized I'd typed hot oink instead of
 hot pink. ?I didn't want ?to recieve a Mark! on THAT ONE.  :-) 



 Not so quick there Tonto.



 Tom, you need a subscription to Bacon Busters magazine. Just ask, and I can
 make it happen
 http://www.isubscribe.com.au/title_info.cfm?prodID=1105


hmmm... can we please get back to hot pink now?


Pink bacon is undercooked. Trichiniasis you know.

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Re: PESO: A lineup of the usual suspects

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:37 PM, frank theriault
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 On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:35 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10497232size=lg

 K20D, DA# 50-135, f5.6, ISO 400

 Like a Norman Rockwell painting, it has that Real Americana feel to it.

Pheeww. Thought you said Norm Baugher.

Dave

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Re: OT - Kodak's survival plan?

2010-01-14 Thread P. J. Alling

Sometimes these claims are valid.  I don't know about this one.

On 1/14/2010 12:23 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
The headline is Kodak is suing Apple and RIM for patent infringement. 
When I read about the nature of the patents involved ...


Kodak alleges that Apple is infringing on two patents covering image 
preview and the processing of images of different resolutions. The 
second suit is focused on technology that allows one application to 
ask another program for help completing a computing task.


... it occurred to me that here is revealed Kodak's survival tactic: 
patent troll! :-)


http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=29558tag=nl.e589


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Re: Babes Boars Bores (was: Camera colours (was: How useful, is SDM?))

2010-01-14 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/14/2010 12:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: eckinator

2010/1/14 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:

 Cotty wrote:

 On 13/1/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:


 I parsed my last sentence and realized I'd typed hot oink 
instead of
 hot pink. ?I didn't want ?to recieve a Mark! on THAT ONE.  :-) 



 Not so quick there Tonto.


 Tom, you need a subscription to Bacon Busters magazine. Just ask, 
and I can

 make it happen
 http://www.isubscribe.com.au/title_info.cfm?prodID=1105


hmmm... can we please get back to hot pink now?


Pink bacon is undercooked. Trichiniasis you know.




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Re: Babes Boars Bores (was: Camera colours (was: How useful, is SDM?))

2010-01-14 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/14/2010 12:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: eckinator

2010/1/14 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:

 Cotty wrote:

 On 13/1/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:


 I parsed my last sentence and realized I'd typed hot oink 
instead of
 hot pink. ?I didn't want ?to recieve a Mark! on THAT ONE.  :-) 



 Not so quick there Tonto.


 Tom, you need a subscription to Bacon Busters magazine. Just ask, 
and I can

 make it happen
 http://www.isubscribe.com.au/title_info.cfm?prodID=1105


hmmm... can we please get back to hot pink now?


Pink bacon is undercooked. Trichiniasis you know.


No longer considered a problem in the developed world...

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Re: PESO: A lineup of the usual suspects

2010-01-14 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/14/2010 12:40 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:37 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:35 PM, P N Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net  wrote:
 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10497232size=lg

K20D, DA# 50-135, f5.6, ISO 400
   

Like a Norman Rockwell painting, it has that Real Americana feel to it.
 

Pheeww. Thought you said Norm Baugher.

Dave
   

Haven't heard from Norm in a while, I wonder how he's doing.

Terrific shot, Paul!!

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Re: PEOW: Superstar Darius

2010-01-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: frank theriault

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Jay Taylor
taylorjohn...@cablespeed.com wrote:

 Hi folks,
 Been a while since I've posted here, but I've been without a Pentax body for
 a while. Hopefully that will be changing real soon.
 Here is an image of my grandson Darius (6) in his second year of soccer:

 
http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Sports/Canon-Sports-Images/D32546/759297325_kZPKt-X2-1.jpg


That is a terrific photo.

What's a PEOW?


Picture Every Other Week ???

Just guessin'

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Re: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling

Nobody should ever generate HTML with Microsoft office.


That's why I prefaced it with the question. I've never done HTML beyond 
the kind of basic Hello World level stuff you can accomplish with Notepad.


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RE: OT - Kodak's survival plan?

2010-01-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bruce Walker
The headline is Kodak is suing Apple and RIM for patent infringement. 
When I read about the nature of the patents involved ...


Kodak alleges that Apple is infringing on two patents covering image 
preview and the processing of images of different resolutions. The 
second suit is focused on technology that allows one application to ask 
another program for help completing a computing task.


... it occurred to me that here is revealed Kodak's survival tactic: 
patent troll!  :-) 


http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=29558tag=nl.e589


Lessee?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091212_551557.htm

http://www.macworld.com/article/132501/2008/03/zapmedia.html?t=104

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Apple-Woolworths-logo-lawsuit,8784.html

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/15/apple-sues-psystar-for-license-violations-copyright-infringemen/


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GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Christian
The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to Australia 
over the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone was so 
excited about it that I couldn't be glum so I tried to make the best of 
it.  On the photography side of things, it was a struggle.  The birds 
didn't want to come out from their hiding spots.  The roos weren't 
relying on food and water provided by the local reserves and the sky was 
basically just pure clouds.


Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  The 
bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens. 
 There are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even 
though we had more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it 
was overcast... of course.


http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them larger.

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Re: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 13/1/10, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

Can anyone recommend a Mac freeware or shareware web page building program?

My wife needs to create a simple page with a course syllabus, and links
to PDFs of reading material--nothing at all fancy.

 My 15 yr old son put 3 pages together using iWeb having never used the
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Re: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:11 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: P. J. Alling

 Nobody should ever generate HTML with Microsoft office.

 That's why I prefaced it with the question. I've never done HTML beyond the
 kind of basic Hello World level stuff you can accomplish with Notepad.

Thats what my site was built with, notepad, and it shows..

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Re: PESO - You've Got Mail!

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
Thats a really good one Frank. Well lit.

Dave

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 She's a couple of blocks from my house so I pass by it often, but last
 night the light from the streetlights was hitting  her in a way that
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 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/youve-got-mail.html

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Re: PESO - You've Got Mail!

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Bran Everseeking
bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:30:00 -0500
 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 She's a couple of blocks from my house so I pass by it often, but last
 night the light from the streetlights was hitting  her in a way that
 made me decide to take a picture:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/youve-got-mail.html

 i need to wander more neighbourhoods yours are making me envious.

You need to take the firearms classes first.

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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread Tom C
I've used my PZ-1p and *ist D NON-WEATHER SEALED cameras in rain and
snow conditions numerous times where after shooting I needed to dry
the camera with a towel and never had a problem.

It would be interesting to know just how long one of these
weather-sealed bodies would last in a controlled test.

I'm inclined to believe, that the weather resistant claims are more
a sales pitch, than a true feature that can be counted on and pressed
to any degree.  Jostein's camera could very well fail the next time he
uses it in exactly the same conditions as it successfully operated in
before.

It's like when I purchase a pair of pants.  If the product has a claim
of Resists wrinkles, that really means It wrinkles, because all
fabrics RESIST wrinkling.  When it says Wrinkle-free or no ironing
then I find it pretty much to be true.  But even then...

So I interpret the claim of weather resistant to mean It leaks.

Obviously the claim on the Pentax website is exaggerated.  It reads:

Weather, dust and cold resistant
The K-7 is weather, dust and cold resistant (to 14° F or -10° C),
making it ideal for use in any environment.

I know it has umpty-ump seals and so forth, but all cameras are
weather, dust and cold resistant because they're solid objects and
99+% of the body is impervious to water..  Water always follows the
course of least resistance and typically that is down and off.
Electronics and mechanisms tend to keep working UNTIL they are
overcome by the temperature.

The claim of any environment is the exaggeration.  If one goes below
-10C, what about that environment, or what about extremely hot
conditions?

Waterproof and weather resistant are obviously two different things.

My 2 cents. Given all that I'd be disappointed in the failure as well,
as expectations that were set by the manufacturers claims were not
met.

Tom



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 I don't think its going to be expensive. My camera started to work again 
 after two days on drying and I used it for a month or two before I sent it 
 in. Pentax confirmed residual of water inside, but I was lucky and no circuit 
 boards or mechanics seemed to be damaged. So it ended up in a small service 
 which shouldn't cost me to much. But I am still surprised about the response 
 I got after all the marketing Pentax has done on its weather resistance. I 
 would believe it could be used in normal autumn weather in Norway, but not so.

 For those interested: It rained 3-4mm / hour which my K-7 was able to handle 
 for a period of two hours. 3-4mm / hour is perhaps a lot of rain, but still 
 normal where I live.

 Stig Vidar Hovland

 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av AlunFoto 
 [alunf...@gmail.com]
 Sendt: 14. januar 2010 11:33
 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

 Sorry to hear, Stig.
 I should perhaps add that a Canon D-7 succumbed to moisture at the
 particular landing where I took my photo. Fortunately it came back to
 life after roughly two days of drying out, but in principle it's a
 camera with about the same level of weather protection as has the K-7.
 So maybe I was lucky? At least I was deliberately pushing my luck...

 Jostein

 2010/1/14 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:
 My K-7 stopped working after two hours in rain and is currently at Pentax 
 for repair which I have to pay myself. I was told by Pentax that it is not 
 meant to withstand normal autumn rain in Norway for two hours. The sealing 
 was meant for withstanding light rain for a short time, I was told. So from 
 now on I have to treat it like its not weather proofed at all.

 Stig Vidar Hovland


 
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 Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

A great example of K-7/DA* weatherproofing.  You ought to send it to
Pentax as a candidate for an advertisement.

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Re: OT - Kodak's survival plan?

2010-01-14 Thread Tom C
It sounds to me that IF, as Kodak claims, other companies have
licensed or pay royalties for the exact same technology, then the
claims may indeed be valid.

I really enjoyed reading the Talkback headers below the story... :-)

Tom

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 The headline is Kodak is suing Apple and RIM for patent infringement. When I
 read about the nature of the patents involved ...

 Kodak alleges that Apple is infringing on two patents covering image
 preview and the processing of images of different resolutions. The second
 suit is focused on technology that allows one application to ask another
 program for help completing a computing task.

 ... it occurred to me that here is revealed Kodak's survival tactic: patent
 troll! :-)

 http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=29558tag=nl.e589


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RE: PEOW: Superstar Darius

2010-01-14 Thread Chris Mitchell
 From: Jay Taylor
 Subject: PEOW: Superstar Darius
 
 Hi folks,
 Been a while since I've posted here, but I've been without a Pentax
 body for a while. Hopefully that will be changing real soon.
 Here is an image of my grandson Darius (6) in his second year of
 soccer:
 
 http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Sports/Canon-Sports-
 Images/D32546/759297325_kZPKt-X2-1.jpg
 
 (captured with that other brand)
 
 JayT
 
That's very good Jay. The subject focus is just right. Darius looks as
though he knows what he's doing as well...

Chris



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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread Tim Bray
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 The claim of any environment is the exaggeration.  If one goes below
 -10C, what about that environment, or what about extremely hot
 conditions?

As I've mentioned here, I visit Saskatchewan every winter and always
try to do a photowalk.  I've taken tons of pictures with both my
*ist-D and K20 at temperatures like -35°C and never had any trouble.
Normally, electronic circuits work just fine at arbitrarily cold
temperatures (not necessarily when they get too hot), so I'm wondering
if there are mechanical issues that could come into play at very cold
temperatures.  Otherwise, why would they provide a low-temperature
threshold?  -T

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Re: Superstar Darius

2010-01-14 Thread Ken Waller

Nice action shot - you caught it.

Just goes to prove it isn't the equipment !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Jay Taylor taylorjohn...@cablespeed.com


Subject: PEOW: Superstar Darius



Hi folks,
Been a while since I've posted here, but I've been without a Pentax  body 
for a while. Hopefully that will be changing real soon.

Here is an image of my grandson Darius (6) in his second year of soccer:

http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Sports/Canon-Sports-Images/D32546/759297325_kZPKt-X2-1.jpg

(captured with that other brand)

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Re: PEOW: Superstar Darius

2010-01-14 Thread paul stenquist
Excellent. 
Paul

On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:00 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: frank theriault
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Jay Taylor
 taylorjohn...@cablespeed.com wrote:
  Hi folks,
  Been a while since I've posted here, but I've been without a Pentax body 
  for
  a while. Hopefully that will be changing real soon.
  Here is an image of my grandson Darius (6) in his second year of soccer:
 
  http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Sports/Canon-Sports-Images/D32546/759297325_kZPKt-X2-1.jpg
 That is a terrific photo.
 What's a PEOW?
 
 Picture Every Other Week ???
 
 Just guessin'
 
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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread Tom C
My thought as well... I'm guessing mirror/shutter and screwdrive for
the AF mainly.

Tom

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 The claim of any environment is the exaggeration.  If one goes below
 -10C, what about that environment, or what about extremely hot
 conditions?

 As I've mentioned here, I visit Saskatchewan every winter and always
 try to do a photowalk.  I've taken tons of pictures with both my
 *ist-D and K20 at temperatures like -35°C and never had any trouble.
 Normally, electronic circuits work just fine at arbitrarily cold
 temperatures (not necessarily when they get too hot), so I'm wondering
 if there are mechanical issues that could come into play at very cold
 temperatures.  Otherwise, why would they provide a low-temperature
 threshold?  -T

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RE: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread Bob W
 I know it has umpty-ump seals and so forth, but all cameras 
 are weather, dust and cold resistant because they're solid objects and
 99+% of the body is impervious to water..  Water always follows the
 course of least resistance and typically that is down and off.
 Electronics and mechanisms tend to keep working UNTIL they 
 are overcome by the temperature.
 

Olympus make some fairly strong claims about their weatherproofing:
http://www.olympus.co.uk/consumer/dslr_E-3_Made_for_the_Extreme.htm 

Maybe all the non-sealed bodies are equally robust, but I wouldn't want to
test it on my own kit. My Leica M8 didn't even resist a splash of beer in a
pub, whereas my Olympus E-1 has frequently stood up to very long periods
(hours) of heavy rain.

Bob


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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread paul stenquist
All great shots, but the frog is awesome. Wow!
Paul
On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Christian wrote:

 The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to Australia over 
 the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone was so excited about it 
 that I couldn't be glum so I tried to make the best of it.  On the 
 photography side of things, it was a struggle.  The birds didn't want to come 
 out from their hiding spots.  The roos weren't relying on food and water 
 provided by the local reserves and the sky was basically just pure clouds.
 
 Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  The bat 
 (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens.  There 
 are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even though we had more 
 sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it was overcast... of 
 course.
 
 http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/
 
 Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them larger.
 
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OT: Naughty boys playing in the snow

2010-01-14 Thread Bob W

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/British+cops+videotaped+sledding+their+riot+sh
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RE: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread Bob W
 
  That's why I prefaced it with the question. I've never done HTML 
  beyond the kind of basic Hello World level stuff you can 
 accomplish with Notepad.
 
 Thats what my site was built with, notepad, and it shows..
 

It's perfectly possible and not particularly difficult, to build a quite
decent site with notepad and stuff like css, xml, html and so on, as long as
you keep it simple.

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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Jack Davis
Glorious stuff!! Love them, Christian. Well cropped and crisply caught.

Jack

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 From: Christian christ...@skofteland.net
 Subject: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 10:23 AM
 The weather really sucked for the
 first 2 weeks when I went to Australia over the
 holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone
 was so excited about it that I couldn't be glum so I tried
 to make the best of it.  On the photography side of
 things, it was a struggle.  The birds didn't want to
 come out from their hiding spots.  The roos weren't
 relying on food and water provided by the local reserves and
 the sky was basically just pure clouds.
 
 Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws'
 house.  The bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the
 Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens.  There are thousands of
 them roosting there during the day.  Even though we had
 more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it
 was overcast... of course.
 
 http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/
 
 Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to
 make them larger.
 
 comments appreciated.
 
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Re: Babes Boars Bores (was: Camera colours (was: How useful, is SDM?))

2010-01-14 Thread Tom C
Yeah, we just have Samonella and e coli.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:54 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1/14/2010 12:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: eckinator

 2010/1/14 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:

  Cotty wrote:

  On 13/1/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

  I parsed my last sentence and realized I'd typed hot oink
  instead of
  hot pink. ?I didn't want ?to recieve a Mark! on THAT ONE.  :-)

  Not so quick there Tonto.

  Tom, you need a subscription to Bacon Busters magazine. Just ask, and
  I can
  make it happen
  http://www.isubscribe.com.au/title_info.cfm?prodID=1105

 hmmm... can we please get back to hot pink now?

 Pink bacon is undercooked. Trichiniasis you know.

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RE: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Bob W
[...
 Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' 
 house.  The bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney 
 Royal Botanic Gardens. 
   There are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  
 Even though we had more sun in Sydney, when I went to the 
 botanic gardens it was overcast... of course.
 
 http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/
 

That's a really nice page - great shots, all of them.

Bob


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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
All very well captured. The double barred finch really stands out for its 
unusual markings !


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Christian christ...@skofteland.net


Subject: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat


The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to Australia 
over the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone was so excited 
about it that I couldn't be glum so I tried to make the best of it.  On 
the photography side of things, it was a struggle.  The birds didn't want 
to come out from their hiding spots.  The roos weren't relying on food and 
water provided by the local reserves and the sky was basically just pure 
clouds.


Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  The 
bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens. 
There are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even though we 
had more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it was 
overcast... of course.


http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them larger.

comments appreciated.

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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Christian
Thanks, Paul!  That's very kind of you.  That frog was so accommodating. 
 I took a few shots, went inside, downloaded them checked them over, 
decided I didn't like the angle or lighting or whatever, went back out 
took some more shots... etc. etc.  Probably an hour or so and he didn't 
move at all.  Even with the flash blasting him in the eyes... :-)


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paul stenquist wrote:

All great shots, but the frog is awesome. Wow!
Paul
On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Christian wrote:


The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to Australia over 
the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone was so excited about it 
that I couldn't be glum so I tried to make the best of it.  On the photography 
side of things, it was a struggle.  The birds didn't want to come out from 
their hiding spots.  The roos weren't relying on food and water provided by the 
local reserves and the sky was basically just pure clouds.

Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  The bat (a 
gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens.  There are 
thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even though we had more sun 
in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it was overcast... of course.

http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them larger.

comments appreciated.

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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Christian
Thanks, Ken, Jack and Bob.  There are at least three species of very 
pretty finches that hang out at the in-laws' house.  The zebra finches 
are the prettiest but I never got a good shot at them.


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Ken Waller wrote:
All very well captured. The double barred finch really stands out for 
its unusual markings !


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: Christian christ...@skofteland.net

Subject: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat


The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to 
Australia over the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone 
was so excited about it that I couldn't be glum so I tried to make the 
best of it.  On the photography side of things, it was a struggle.  
The birds didn't want to come out from their hiding spots.  The roos 
weren't relying on food and water provided by the local reserves and 
the sky was basically just pure clouds.


Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  
The bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic 
Gardens. There are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  
Even though we had more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic 
gardens it was overcast... of course.


http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them larger.

comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread Ken Waller
I've shot alot in the rain  snow, mostly from a tripod and I've always 
protected it as much as possible with a towel or my b-ball cap, never had an 
issue with any of them - PZ, PZ-1P, MZ-S, *istD, K10D or K20D., 28-80 F, 
70-210F, 300 f4.5 FA, 600 FA.


I wouldn't consider any device like a camera body (except a Nikonos) or lens 
to be impervious to damage from moisture.


Kenneth Waller
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From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PESO - Snowproofed



I've used my PZ-1p and *ist D NON-WEATHER SEALED cameras in rain and
snow conditions numerous times where after shooting I needed to dry
the camera with a towel and never had a problem.



It would be interesting to know just how long one of these
weather-sealed bodies would last in a controlled test.



I'm inclined to believe, that the weather resistant claims are more
a sales pitch, than a true feature that can be counted on and pressed
to any degree.  Jostein's camera could very well fail the next time he
uses it in exactly the same conditions as it successfully operated in
before.


Interestingly, my cheapee Timex watch states on the back 'Water resistant to 
100m'




It's like when I purchase a pair of pants.  If the product has a claim
of Resists wrinkles, that really means It wrinkles, because all
fabrics RESIST wrinkling.  When it says Wrinkle-free or no ironing
then I find it pretty much to be true.  But even then...



So I interpret the claim of weather resistant to mean It leaks.



Obviously the claim on the Pentax website is exaggerated.  It reads:



Weather, dust and cold resistant
The K-7 is weather, dust and cold resistant (to 14° F or -10° C),
making it ideal for use in any environment.



I know it has umpty-ump seals and so forth, but all cameras are
weather, dust and cold resistant because they're solid objects and
99+% of the body is impervious to water..  Water always follows the
course of least resistance and typically that is down and off.
Electronics and mechanisms tend to keep working UNTIL they are
overcome by the temperature.



The claim of any environment is the exaggeration.  If one goes below
-10C, what about that environment, or what about extremely hot
conditions?



Waterproof and weather resistant are obviously two different things.



My 2 cents. Given all that I'd be disappointed in the failure as well,
as expectations that were set by the manufacturers claims were not
met.



Tom




On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:59 AM, SV Hovland p...@heime.org wrote:
I don't think its going to be expensive. My camera started to work again 
after two days on drying and I used it for a month or two before I sent it 
in. Pentax confirmed residual of water inside, but I was lucky and no 
circuit boards or mechanics seemed to be damaged. So it ended up in a 
small service which shouldn't cost me to much. But I am still surprised 
about the response I got after all the marketing Pentax has done on its 
weather resistance. I would believe it could be used in normal autumn 
weather in Norway, but not so.


For those interested: It rained 3-4mm / hour which my K-7 was able to 
handle for a period of two hours. 3-4mm / hour is perhaps a lot of rain, 
but still normal where I live.


Stig Vidar Hovland


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Sorry to hear, Stig.
I should perhaps add that a Canon D-7 succumbed to moisture at the
particular landing where I took my photo. Fortunately it came back to
life after roughly two days of drying out, but in principle it's a
camera with about the same level of weather protection as has the K-7.
So maybe I was lucky? At least I was deliberately pushing my luck...

Jostein

2010/1/14 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:
My K-7 stopped working after two hours in rain and is currently at Pentax 
for repair which I have to pay myself. I was told by Pentax that it is 
not meant to withstand normal autumn rain in Norway for two hours. The 
sealing was meant for withstanding light rain for a short time, I was 
told. So from now on I have to treat it like its not weather proofed at 
all.


Stig Vidar Hovland



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A great example of K-7/DA* weatherproofing. You ought to send it to
Pentax as a candidate for an advertisement.



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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread Tom C
I've used a gallon size ZipLock bag in the past.  It keeps the camera
totally dry between shots and I can pretty much just pull the bag up
over the edge of the lens and still operate most controls, again on a
tripod.

Tom

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I've shot alot in the rain  snow, mostly from a tripod and I've always
 protected it as much as possible with a towel or my b-ball cap, never had an
 issue with any of them - PZ, PZ-1P, MZ-S, *istD, K10D or K20D., 28-80 F,
 70-210F, 300 f4.5 FA, 600 FA.

 I wouldn't consider any device like a camera body (except a Nikonos) or lens
 to be impervious to damage from moisture.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO - Snowproofed


 I've used my PZ-1p and *ist D NON-WEATHER SEALED cameras in rain and
 snow conditions numerous times where after shooting I needed to dry
 the camera with a towel and never had a problem.

 It would be interesting to know just how long one of these
 weather-sealed bodies would last in a controlled test.

 I'm inclined to believe, that the weather resistant claims are more
 a sales pitch, than a true feature that can be counted on and pressed
 to any degree.  Jostein's camera could very well fail the next time he
 uses it in exactly the same conditions as it successfully operated in
 before.

 Interestingly, my cheapee Timex watch states on the back 'Water resistant to
 100m'


 It's like when I purchase a pair of pants.  If the product has a claim
 of Resists wrinkles, that really means It wrinkles, because all
 fabrics RESIST wrinkling.  When it says Wrinkle-free or no ironing
 then I find it pretty much to be true.  But even then...

 So I interpret the claim of weather resistant to mean It leaks.

 Obviously the claim on the Pentax website is exaggerated.  It reads:

 Weather, dust and cold resistant
 The K-7 is weather, dust and cold resistant (to 14° F or -10° C),
 making it ideal for use in any environment.

 I know it has umpty-ump seals and so forth, but all cameras are
 weather, dust and cold resistant because they're solid objects and
 99+% of the body is impervious to water..  Water always follows the
 course of least resistance and typically that is down and off.
 Electronics and mechanisms tend to keep working UNTIL they are
 overcome by the temperature.

 The claim of any environment is the exaggeration.  If one goes below
 -10C, what about that environment, or what about extremely hot
 conditions?

 Waterproof and weather resistant are obviously two different things.

 My 2 cents. Given all that I'd be disappointed in the failure as well,
 as expectations that were set by the manufacturers claims were not
 met.

 Tom



 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:59 AM, SV Hovland p...@heime.org wrote:

 I don't think its going to be expensive. My camera started to work again
 after two days on drying and I used it for a month or two before I sent it
 in. Pentax confirmed residual of water inside, but I was lucky and no
 circuit boards or mechanics seemed to be damaged. So it ended up in a small
 service which shouldn't cost me to much. But I am still surprised about the
 response I got after all the marketing Pentax has done on its weather
 resistance. I would believe it could be used in normal autumn weather in
 Norway, but not so.

 For those interested: It rained 3-4mm / hour which my K-7 was able to
 handle for a period of two hours. 3-4mm / hour is perhaps a lot of rain, but
 still normal where I live.

 Stig Vidar Hovland

 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av
 AlunFoto [alunf...@gmail.com]
 Sendt: 14. januar 2010 11:33
 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

 Sorry to hear, Stig.
 I should perhaps add that a Canon D-7 succumbed to moisture at the
 particular landing where I took my photo. Fortunately it came back to
 life after roughly two days of drying out, but in principle it's a
 camera with about the same level of weather protection as has the K-7.
 So maybe I was lucky? At least I was deliberately pushing my luck...

 Jostein

 2010/1/14 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:

 My K-7 stopped working after two hours in rain and is currently at Pentax
 for repair which I have to pay myself. I was told by Pentax that it is not
 meant to withstand normal autumn rain in Norway for two hours. The sealing
 was meant for withstanding light rain for a short time, I was told. So from
 now on I have to treat it like its not weather proofed at all.

 Stig Vidar Hovland


 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Jim
 King [jamesk8...@mac.com]
 Sendt: 13. januar 2010 19:25
 Til: pdml@pdml.net
 Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

 A great example of K-7/DA* weatherproofing. You ought to send it to
 Pentax as a candidate for an advertisement.

 Regards, Jim

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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread Tom C
I'm sure the Timex watch claim is true.  It resists... but as we all know...

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I've shot alot in the rain  snow, mostly from a tripod and I've always
 protected it as much as possible with a towel or my b-ball cap, never had an
 issue with any of them - PZ, PZ-1P, MZ-S, *istD, K10D or K20D., 28-80 F,
 70-210F, 300 f4.5 FA, 600 FA.

 I wouldn't consider any device like a camera body (except a Nikonos) or lens
 to be impervious to damage from moisture.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO - Snowproofed


 I've used my PZ-1p and *ist D NON-WEATHER SEALED cameras in rain and
 snow conditions numerous times where after shooting I needed to dry
 the camera with a towel and never had a problem.

 It would be interesting to know just how long one of these
 weather-sealed bodies would last in a controlled test.

 I'm inclined to believe, that the weather resistant claims are more
 a sales pitch, than a true feature that can be counted on and pressed
 to any degree.  Jostein's camera could very well fail the next time he
 uses it in exactly the same conditions as it successfully operated in
 before.

 Interestingly, my cheapee Timex watch states on the back 'Water resistant to
 100m'


 It's like when I purchase a pair of pants.  If the product has a claim
 of Resists wrinkles, that really means It wrinkles, because all
 fabrics RESIST wrinkling.  When it says Wrinkle-free or no ironing
 then I find it pretty much to be true.  But even then...

 So I interpret the claim of weather resistant to mean It leaks.

 Obviously the claim on the Pentax website is exaggerated.  It reads:

 Weather, dust and cold resistant
 The K-7 is weather, dust and cold resistant (to 14° F or -10° C),
 making it ideal for use in any environment.

 I know it has umpty-ump seals and so forth, but all cameras are
 weather, dust and cold resistant because they're solid objects and
 99+% of the body is impervious to water..  Water always follows the
 course of least resistance and typically that is down and off.
 Electronics and mechanisms tend to keep working UNTIL they are
 overcome by the temperature.

 The claim of any environment is the exaggeration.  If one goes below
 -10C, what about that environment, or what about extremely hot
 conditions?

 Waterproof and weather resistant are obviously two different things.

 My 2 cents. Given all that I'd be disappointed in the failure as well,
 as expectations that were set by the manufacturers claims were not
 met.

 Tom



 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:59 AM, SV Hovland p...@heime.org wrote:

 I don't think its going to be expensive. My camera started to work again
 after two days on drying and I used it for a month or two before I sent it
 in. Pentax confirmed residual of water inside, but I was lucky and no
 circuit boards or mechanics seemed to be damaged. So it ended up in a small
 service which shouldn't cost me to much. But I am still surprised about the
 response I got after all the marketing Pentax has done on its weather
 resistance. I would believe it could be used in normal autumn weather in
 Norway, but not so.

 For those interested: It rained 3-4mm / hour which my K-7 was able to
 handle for a period of two hours. 3-4mm / hour is perhaps a lot of rain, but
 still normal where I live.

 Stig Vidar Hovland

 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av
 AlunFoto [alunf...@gmail.com]
 Sendt: 14. januar 2010 11:33
 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

 Sorry to hear, Stig.
 I should perhaps add that a Canon D-7 succumbed to moisture at the
 particular landing where I took my photo. Fortunately it came back to
 life after roughly two days of drying out, but in principle it's a
 camera with about the same level of weather protection as has the K-7.
 So maybe I was lucky? At least I was deliberately pushing my luck...

 Jostein

 2010/1/14 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:

 My K-7 stopped working after two hours in rain and is currently at Pentax
 for repair which I have to pay myself. I was told by Pentax that it is not
 meant to withstand normal autumn rain in Norway for two hours. The sealing
 was meant for withstanding light rain for a short time, I was told. So from
 now on I have to treat it like its not weather proofed at all.

 Stig Vidar Hovland


 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Jim
 King [jamesk8...@mac.com]
 Sendt: 13. januar 2010 19:25
 Til: pdml@pdml.net
 Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

 A great example of K-7/DA* weatherproofing. You ought to send it to
 Pentax as a candidate for an advertisement.

 Regards, Jim

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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread John Sessoms

http://optechusa.com/product/detail/?PRODUCT_ID=73

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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christian,
Sorry about the weather, but you have some great shots.
Like Paul said, the frog is a stunner.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:
 The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to Australia
 over the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone was so excited
 about it that I couldn't be glum so I tried to make the best of it.  On the
 photography side of things, it was a struggle.  The birds didn't want to
 come out from their hiding spots.  The roos weren't relying on food and
 water provided by the local reserves and the sky was basically just pure
 clouds.

 Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  The bat
 (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens.  There
 are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even though we had
 more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it was overcast... of
 course.

 http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

 Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them larger.

 comments appreciated.

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Re: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread Perry Pellechia
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
  That's why I prefaced it with the question. I've never done HTML
  beyond the kind of basic Hello World level stuff you can
 accomplish with Notepad.

 Thats what my site was built with, notepad, and it shows..


 It's perfectly possible and not particularly difficult, to build a quite
 decent site with notepad and stuff like css, xml, html and so on, as long as
 you keep it simple.



Not for someone with the technical abilities of my wife.

Perry.

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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Had the PZ-1 die at a pig roast long ago.  It was new and in/out of
the moist smoke.  Pentax made repairs under warranty.
That's my only failure.
Regards, Bob S.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I've shot alot in the rain  snow, mostly from a tripod and I've always
 protected it as much as possible with a towel or my b-ball cap, never had an
 issue with any of them - PZ, PZ-1P, MZ-S, *istD, K10D or K20D., 28-80 F,
 70-210F, 300 f4.5 FA, 600 FA.

 I wouldn't consider any device like a camera body (except a Nikonos) or lens
 to be impervious to damage from moisture.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO - Snowproofed


 I've used my PZ-1p and *ist D NON-WEATHER SEALED cameras in rain and
 snow conditions numerous times where after shooting I needed to dry
 the camera with a towel and never had a problem.

 It would be interesting to know just how long one of these
 weather-sealed bodies would last in a controlled test.

 I'm inclined to believe, that the weather resistant claims are more
 a sales pitch, than a true feature that can be counted on and pressed
 to any degree.  Jostein's camera could very well fail the next time he
 uses it in exactly the same conditions as it successfully operated in
 before.

 Interestingly, my cheapee Timex watch states on the back 'Water resistant to
 100m'


 It's like when I purchase a pair of pants.  If the product has a claim
 of Resists wrinkles, that really means It wrinkles, because all
 fabrics RESIST wrinkling.  When it says Wrinkle-free or no ironing
 then I find it pretty much to be true.  But even then...

 So I interpret the claim of weather resistant to mean It leaks.

 Obviously the claim on the Pentax website is exaggerated.  It reads:

 Weather, dust and cold resistant
 The K-7 is weather, dust and cold resistant (to 14° F or -10° C),
 making it ideal for use in any environment.

 I know it has umpty-ump seals and so forth, but all cameras are
 weather, dust and cold resistant because they're solid objects and
 99+% of the body is impervious to water..  Water always follows the
 course of least resistance and typically that is down and off.
 Electronics and mechanisms tend to keep working UNTIL they are
 overcome by the temperature.

 The claim of any environment is the exaggeration.  If one goes below
 -10C, what about that environment, or what about extremely hot
 conditions?

 Waterproof and weather resistant are obviously two different things.

 My 2 cents. Given all that I'd be disappointed in the failure as well,
 as expectations that were set by the manufacturers claims were not
 met.

 Tom



 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:59 AM, SV Hovland p...@heime.org wrote:

 I don't think its going to be expensive. My camera started to work again
 after two days on drying and I used it for a month or two before I sent it
 in. Pentax confirmed residual of water inside, but I was lucky and no
 circuit boards or mechanics seemed to be damaged. So it ended up in a small
 service which shouldn't cost me to much. But I am still surprised about the
 response I got after all the marketing Pentax has done on its weather
 resistance. I would believe it could be used in normal autumn weather in
 Norway, but not so.

 For those interested: It rained 3-4mm / hour which my K-7 was able to
 handle for a period of two hours. 3-4mm / hour is perhaps a lot of rain, but
 still normal where I live.

 Stig Vidar Hovland

 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av
 AlunFoto [alunf...@gmail.com]
 Sendt: 14. januar 2010 11:33
 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

 Sorry to hear, Stig.
 I should perhaps add that a Canon D-7 succumbed to moisture at the
 particular landing where I took my photo. Fortunately it came back to
 life after roughly two days of drying out, but in principle it's a
 camera with about the same level of weather protection as has the K-7.
 So maybe I was lucky? At least I was deliberately pushing my luck...

 Jostein

 2010/1/14 SV Hovland p...@heime.org:

 My K-7 stopped working after two hours in rain and is currently at Pentax
 for repair which I have to pay myself. I was told by Pentax that it is not
 meant to withstand normal autumn rain in Norway for two hours. The sealing
 was meant for withstanding light rain for a short time, I was told. So from
 now on I have to treat it like its not weather proofed at all.

 Stig Vidar Hovland


 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Jim
 King [jamesk8...@mac.com]
 Sendt: 13. januar 2010 19:25
 Til: pdml@pdml.net
 Emne: Re: PESO - Snowproofed

 A great example of K-7/DA* weatherproofing. You ought to send it to
 Pentax as a candidate for an advertisement.

 Regards, Jim

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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-14 Thread Miserere
Mark,

Can I just send you the negatives from 2009 and let you pick out the
best 3 so you can then choose the best one to put in the book?

That would be great.

Thanks!


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 Shake off that New Year's Day hangover and dive into your photo
 archives for your best shot of 2009! The second annual PDML photo book
 project is now accepting submissions at
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php

 All the details are on the page itself but the basics are:
 We're doing a PDML photo book and every list member (as of December
 2009) gets a shot in the book.
 You can submit up to 3 photos (but only one is guaranteed acceptance).
 Book will be available in late March or early April.

 There will also be a gallery exhibit of photos from the book, held in
 Chicago from May 7 to June 12. (Unlike the book itself, participation
 in the gallery show costs money, so it's optional.)

 So go for it.

 IF YOU CAN'T CONNECT TO THE WEB PAGE:
 This will be because your country or IP block is banned due to
 security/hacking issues in the past. This is most likely to happen if
 you're in China, Korea, Russia or eastern Europe (or Australia, which
 shares IP blocks with Asia).
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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread Tom C
AT what I'd call a pretty good price for what it does.

Tom

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:36 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 http://optechusa.com/product/detail/?PRODUCT_ID=73

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PESO - Parkdale Arms

2010-01-14 Thread frank theriault
Why do they call all the Rooms to Rent places around here Arms?
Whatever, here's Parkdale Arms.  Another sign (not visible in this
picture) says absolutely no guests after 11:30.

Right...

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/parkview-arms.html

I know it's noisy, but it's in a noisy neighbourhood.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Had the PZ-1 die at a pig roast long ago.
snip

Wouldn't have happened at a veggie-bbq!

;-)

cheers,
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Re: OT: Naughty boys playing in the snow

2010-01-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 http://www.ottawacitizen.com/British+cops+videotaped+sledding+their+riot+sh
 ields/2440773/story.html

That's great!

Police need a more human face in most neighbourhoods, and taking a few
runs down a hill where other tobogganers are sledding is a fine way to
do it.  I'm sure the kids there now look at police officers in a whole
new way.

Plus, I bet those kids have never felt safer sliding down a hill before!

While it looks like they didn't get an official reprimand, just a mild
scolding, they shouldn't have gotten even that.  Not that officers
should be encouraged to fool around while on patrol, but IMHO, this is
really effective community policing.

cheers,
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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Glorious stuff!! Love them, Christian. Well cropped and crisply caught.


I agree with Jack.

Terrific stuff, Christian!

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Re: Vernissage Gathering was ANNOUNCEMENT . . . exhibit

2010-01-14 Thread Tim Bray
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I would be more than willing to help organize a vernissage gathering if
 that's of interest to PDMLers.
...
 It might make for a nice long weekend if folks flew in Thursday for
 vernissage, then

OK, if I'm going to fly on points I should book soon.  Are we talking
afternoon or evening, do you think?  -Tim

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Re: OT - Mac web page freeware or shareware?

2010-01-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a Mac freeware or shareware web page building program?

 My wife needs to create a simple page with a course syllabus, and links to 
 PDFs of reading material--nothing at all fancy.

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW

Taco (http://tacosw.com/) is a very nice, inexpensive ($25) HTML and
PHP editor which includes dynamic preview.

Generally speaking, while I use iWeb, Lightroom and other apps to
generate HTML some of the time, I almost always end up doing some
editing myself on the generated output. Taco and BBEdit (or the free
Text Wrangler) make manipulating HTML easy.
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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
Great stuff. The frog is wonderful

Dave

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:
 The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to Australia
 over the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone was so excited
 about it that I couldn't be glum so I tried to make the best of it.  On the
 photography side of things, it was a struggle.  The birds didn't want to
 come out from their hiding spots.  The roos weren't relying on food and
 water provided by the local reserves and the sky was basically just pure
 clouds.

 Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  The bat
 (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens.  There
 are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even though we had
 more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it was overcast... of
 course.

 http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

 Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them larger.

 comments appreciated.

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Re: OT: Naughty boys playing in the snow

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
Never  know when a riot might break out on a hill

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Re: PESO - Parkdale Arms

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
Like this one.

Has that gritty lower east side feel to it.

If we had an east side that is.

Dave

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 Why do they call all the Rooms to Rent places around here Arms?
 Whatever, here's Parkdale Arms.  Another sign (not visible in this
 picture) says absolutely no guests after 11:30.

 Right...

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/parkview-arms.html

 I know it's noisy, but it's in a noisy neighbourhood.

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: PEOW: Superstar Darius

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
Great action shot.

See how well those other brands work.:-0

Dave

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 Been a while since I've posted here, but I've been without a Pentax body for
 a while. Hopefully that will be changing real soon.
 Here is an image of my grandson Darius (6) in his second year of soccer:

 http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Sports/Canon-Sports-Images/D32546/759297325_kZPKt-X2-1.jpg

 (captured with that other brand)

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Re: PESO - Parkdale Arms

2010-01-14 Thread Christian
What he said.  Love the mood. The fact that the headlight beams show up 
in the gloom/fog is a real winner.

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David J Brooks wrote:

Like this one.

Has that gritty lower east side feel to it.

If we had an east side that is.

Dave

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Why do they call all the Rooms to Rent places around here Arms?
Whatever, here's Parkdale Arms.  Another sign (not visible in this
picture) says absolutely no guests after 11:30.

Right...

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/parkview-arms.html

I know it's noisy, but it's in a noisy neighbourhood.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO: A lineup of the usual suspects

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:55 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Like a Norman Rockwell painting, it has that Real Americana feel to it.


 Pheeww. Thought you said Norm Baugher.

 Dave


 Haven't heard from Norm in a while, I wonder how he's doing.

 Terrific shot, Paul!!

Probably trying to find Cotty's phone number

Dave

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Re: PESO - Parkdale Arms

2010-01-14 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:

Why do they call all the Rooms to Rent places around here Arms?
Whatever, here's Parkdale Arms.  Another sign (not visible in this
picture) says absolutely no guests after 11:30.

Right...

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/parkview-arms.html

I know it's noisy, but it's in a noisy neighbourhood.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: Peso: Apostrophe

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
When life gives you lemons, throw a lime in front.

Dave

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Re: PaD- Photo a Day no. 20

2010-01-14 Thread David J Brooks
Well done. Classic corner store

Dave

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 http://365xclick.blogspot.com/2010/01/night-munchies-20365.html


 I am quite project driven of late.  I have been trying to shoot the
 corner stores around Saskatoon before they all go under to the 7-11 and
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Forthcoming books by Don McCullin

2010-01-14 Thread Bob W
Order them today. He's a great photographer and a very nice chap.

Anyone for a Manchester PDML in February?

Shaped by War:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shaped-War-Don-McCullin/dp/0224090267/ref=pd_bxgy_b
_text_b

his work is the subject of a huge exhibition currently being organized by
the Imperial War Museum. The exhibition will open at the museum's Manchester
site in February 2010, where it will run for a few months and then open at
the London museum a year later. The accompanying book will be a departure
from the usual format of MCullin publishing and will be sized to match the
original Sunday Times Magazine, where so much of his work first appeared.
Focusing on his important stories, the book will trace his entire career.
McCullin has been interviewed on film for many hours for this project and
the edited transcriptions of those interviews will form much of the
substance of his text. McCullin's little known colour work will be
reproduced along side pages from the magazines and an assemblage of
McCullin's personal material and documents. These include his cameras, boots
and helmet, numerous passports and photographs of him at work on the
battlefield, together with illuminating personal correspondence.

Southern Frontiers: A Journey Across the Roman Empire:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Southern-Frontiers-Journey-Across-Empire/dp/0224087
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His most ambitious journey has been to explore the fringes of the Roman
empire. Southern Frontiers is divided into two parts. The first part, The
Levant, includes the ruins of Baalbek in the Lebanon, Palmyra in Syria and
Jirash in Jordan. The second part, The Moghreb, covers a sweeping journey
through the North African coastal countries Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and
Libya, where he has photographed the great ruins of Leptus Magna. McCullin's
photographs, taken on a large format camera, are evocative of the views of
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PESO - Parkview Arms - was Parkdale Arms

2010-01-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:

 ummm  ParkVIEW arms...  but whatever it's a great shot.


You're right.  The photo (on the blog) has the correct name, just not
the PESO.  Sorry about that.

Parkdale is a large neighbourhood just west of us.  Parkview Arms is
so called because it's across the street from Trinity Bellwoods Park.

My bad.  The thread should be called PESO - Parkview Arms

Thanks, Christian.

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Re: PESO - Parkdale Arms

2010-01-14 Thread paul stenquist
Excellent. The trolley and passing car in the street give it energy and life. 
Superb composition.
Paul
On Jan 14, 2010, at 5:09 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 Why do they call all the Rooms to Rent places around here Arms?
 Whatever, here's Parkdale Arms.  Another sign (not visible in this
 picture) says absolutely no guests after 11:30.
 
 Right...
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/parkview-arms.html
 
 I know it's noisy, but it's in a noisy neighbourhood.
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
 
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Re: Naughty boys playing in the snow

2010-01-14 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bob W

Subject: OT: Naughty boys playing in the snow




http://www.ottawacitizen.com/British+cops+videotaped+sledding+their+riot+sh
ields/2440773/story.html



It's amazing they didn't bust the photographer. He must not have been using 
a big camera.


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Re: PESO - Snowproofed

2010-01-14 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 The claim of any environment is the exaggeration.  If one goes below
 -10C, what about that environment, or what about extremely hot
 conditions?

 As I've mentioned here, I visit Saskatchewan every winter and always
 try to do a photowalk.  I've taken tons of pictures with both my
 *ist-D and K20 at temperatures like -35°C and never had any trouble.
 Normally, electronic circuits work just fine at arbitrarily cold
 temperatures (not necessarily when they get too hot), so I'm wondering
 if there are mechanical issues that could come into play at very cold
 temperatures.  Otherwise, why would they provide a low-temperature
 threshold?  -T


Actually cold can affect electronics just as much as heat can.
Semiconductors change behaviour with temperature and can behave
unpredictably if their operating range is exceeded in either
direction. It's not good if your semiconductors quit semiconducting.

The major difference is that cold generally does not have long-term
effects on the electronics, while heat can actually damage them
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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

Glorious stuff!! Love them, Christian. Well cropped and crisply caught.



I agree with Jack.

Terrific stuff, Christian!



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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Christian

Thanks, Bob and Dave.


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David J Brooks wrote:

Great stuff. The frog is wonderful

Dave

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:

The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to Australia
over the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone was so excited
about it that I couldn't be glum so I tried to make the best of it.  On the
photography side of things, it was a struggle.  The birds didn't want to
come out from their hiding spots.  The roos weren't relying on food and
water provided by the local reserves and the sky was basically just pure
clouds.

Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  The bat
(a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens.  There
are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even though we had
more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it was overcast... of
course.

http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them larger.

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Re: OT: North American International Auto Show

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Beacom


On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:40 PM, paul stenquist wrote:



On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Christian wrote:


P N Stenquist wrote:
Worked the show for the NY times: 13 hours yesterday and a few  
more this morning. I was on-board as a writer, not a  
photographer, so I carried only my Panasonic PS, but a couple of  
my pics did make it onto the web pages. You can see my posts from  
the show here: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/author/paul- 
stenquist/


Nice, Paul.  But the shark had a coke can in its mouth not beer :-)


Ah ha! Got me. In truth, I better fix that.
Paul


Nah- it's a better story with a beer can. Just imply that it's an  
Aussie shark.


Cheers
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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:23 -0500, Christian christ...@skofteland.net
wrote:
 
 Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  The 
 bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens. 
   There are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even 
 though we had more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it 
 was overcast... of course.
 
 http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/
 
 Scroll down smartasses...  


Great stuff.

Those green tree frogs are wonderful creatures.  We have several that
live in various places around the house and appear on our kitchen window
sill each night in the warmer months to hunt moths and beetles that are
attracted by the lights from the house.  Reality television doesn't even
come close to this sort of entertainment!

We miss the crested shrike tits here.  We used to have them but they,
and most other small birds, have been displaced by larger, more
aggressive species.  



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Re: GESO - Across Australia and back

2010-01-14 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:16 -0500, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Superb gallery,  Brian.
 
 The funniest, of course, is the last, Multitasking (seems an odd  combo). 
 Also chuckled at the Shark Crossing.
 
 I was jotting down photos  titles to tell you which ones I really liked, 
 but, ah, my list really got too  long. Some lovely beach shots, some
 great 
 wall/window/door shots, but okay, I'll  try -- these jumped out at me --
 in no 
 particular order,  Leaning Ecualpyt  (sp/), Fields of Gold, Snake
 (Bardick), 
 Lake Ballard (the lake lake shot),  purple flower (Isopp.. but liked
 other 
 flower shots as well), Jetty, Old  Telegraph Station, and the Lucky Bay
 Pano 
 (a pano works really well  there).
 
 Really great gallery. Looks like it was a fun trip.
 
 Marnie  aka Doe :-)



Thanks, Marnie.  It was a fun trip although we would have liked more
time in many of the places we visited.  2-3 night stays really don't
allow more than a sampling of the attractions.



Cheers

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 Brian Walters  wrote:
  I've finally finished organising the photos from my trip across  to
  Western Australia and back last year.  What a bloody relief!  
  Cataloguing, keywording etc has taken twice as long as the trip  itself.
  
  Here's a selection:
  
   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/eastwest/index.html
  
  
   Note, it's a large gallery so I can't imagine anyone would want to wade
   through the lot but the thumbnails load reasonably quickly and you might
   find one or two that are worth investigating further.  Savage is in
   there somewhere
  
  PS:  I'll be looking at some of these  as candidates for the 2009 PDML
  book, so let me know if there are any  you particularly like (or
  hate)
  
  
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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Beacom

A really nice bunch of pictures. And the parrots- beautiful plumage.

What happened to his cigar? The frog put me in mind of Winston  
Churchill.


Cheers
Mike



On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Christian wrote:

The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to  
Australia over the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.   
Everyone was so excited about it that I couldn't be glum so I tried  
to make the best of it.  On the photography side of things, it was  
a struggle.  The birds didn't want to come out from their hiding  
spots.  The roos weren't relying on food and water provided by the  
local reserves and the sky was basically just pure clouds.


Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.   
The bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic  
Gardens.  There are thousands of them roosting there during the  
day.  Even though we had more sun in Sydney, when I went to the  
botanic gardens it was overcast... of course.


http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them  
larger.


comments appreciated.

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RE: PESO - Parkdale Arms

2010-01-14 Thread Bill Sawyer
Frank,

I could go on for some time about what I think makes this one special,
suffice to say I wish I'd done it. 

One of your best...

Bill Sawyer

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Subject: PESO - Parkdale Arms

Why do they call all the Rooms to Rent places around here Arms?
Whatever, here's Parkdale Arms.  Another sign (not visible in this
picture) says absolutely no guests after 11:30.

Right...

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/parkview-arms.html

I know it's noisy, but it's in a noisy neighbourhood.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: OT: North American International Auto Show

2010-01-14 Thread paul stenquist

On Jan 14, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Michael Beacom wrote:

 
 On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:40 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
 
 
 On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Christian wrote:
 
 P N Stenquist wrote:
 Worked the show for the NY times: 13 hours yesterday and a few more this 
 morning. I was on-board as a writer, not a photographer, so I carried only 
 my Panasonic PS, but a couple of my pics did make it onto the web pages. 
 You can see my posts from the show here: 
 http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/author/paul-stenquist/
 
 Nice, Paul.  But the shark had a coke can in its mouth not beer :-)
 
 Ah ha! Got me. In truth, I better fix that.
 Paul
 
 Nah- it's a better story with a beer can. Just imply that it's an Aussie 
 shark.

Yeah, I looked again. I can't tell what it is on that size pic, so I left it as 
is. It's a beer can!
Paul
 
 Cheers
 Mike
 
 
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