Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source

2006-04-04 Thread V
For distilled The one at Kmart is pretty good last time I tested it  I believe 
its American Fair brand




Take care,
 V


 I'm wondering what brand of distilled water is the purest... ???

 I realize this can be also done at home but untill I decide on a suffcient 
 water distiller, I'm going with something available in stores/online

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Re: CShome-made CS - distilled water source

2006-04-04 Thread V
Hi Deborah,

Yes Steam distilled




Take care,
 V


 I never checked V...is that steamed? Walgreens sells a steamed distilled one 
 too..have a good one...deb

 V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:  For distilled The one at Kmart is pretty
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Re: CSBuying silver

2006-04-07 Thread V
Hi francis,

There is a way to test it with specific garvity that you can do at home.
And there are companies tha strictly deal in metal nad their reputation depends 
on delivering what they claim.

http://www.ccsilver.com/




Take care,
 V


 Greetings,

 I'm a pretty trust worthy person. So here's my question to the group:
 When buying silver 999 or  purity from a reliable? Or trust worthy?
 Source, how do you know you are going to receive what you are paying
 for? Short of getting a lab test on what you have purchased? Even if you
 buy silver bullion from a bank, how can you determine if it is what they
 say it is?

 Don't mean to be the devil's advocate, just asking a logical question.

 Any thoughts or feedback would be greatly appreciated.

 Francis
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Re: CSCleaning tarnished silver bars?

2006-04-18 Thread V
Hi anita,

I clean mine with a Scotch Brite till the metal is shiny clean.


Take care,
 V
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 Hi everyone. I am about to make my first foray into making CS. I bought
 2 silver bars from a coin shop and one has some tarnish on it. The other
 is ok. I was wondering what does everyone use to clean their silver
 before using them in a generator? I would like to stick with something
 natural/organic. I tried soaking them in vinegar. So far didn't help. Any
 help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: CSCleaning tarnished silver bars?

2006-04-20 Thread V
Hi sol,

The vinegar and foil cause a chemical reaction to clean the silver . peroxide 




Take care,
 V
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 I'm curious as to why no one has suggested using peroxide to clean the 
 bars, followed by a distilled water rinse?
 sol

 Ode Coyote wrote:



   Toss a piece of aluminum foil in with the vinegar. [or salt water]

 Ode


 At 04:55 AM 4/18/2006 -0700, you wrote:

 . I was wondering what does everyone use to clean their silver before 
 using them in a generator? I would like to stick with something 
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Re: CSCleaning tarnished silver bars?

2006-04-20 Thread V
peroxide does not work in the same way
V

 Hi sol,

 The vinegar and foil cause a chemical reaction to clean the silver . peroxide




 Take care,
  V
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 I'm curious as to why no one has suggested using peroxide to clean the 
 bars, followed by a distilled water rinse?
 sol

 Ode Coyote wrote:



   Toss a piece of aluminum foil in with the vinegar. [or salt water]

 Ode


 At 04:55 AM 4/18/2006 -0700, you wrote:

 . I was wondering what does everyone use to clean their silver before 
 using them in a generator? I would like to stick with something 
 natural/organic.



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Re: CSCleaning tarnished silver bars?

2006-04-20 Thread V
Hi sol,

well one reason why peroxide would not clean tarnish off is that. On pure 
silver the tarnish might be silver oxide, so adding more oxygen from peroxide 
would not do anything. you want to add something that combines with the oxygen 
in the silver to remove it. Like the vinegar which is an acid and a proton 
donor.

when you are dealing with sterling silver however it is a different story 
because most of the tarnish on sterling silver comes from the copper oxidizing. 
silver polish usually contains soem thing that will remove that esily. In both 
case it is due to oxides on the metal and sometimes also sulfurs on the metal.

peroxide provides more oxygen so would not work well to remove metal oxides. 
You need something that combines with oxygen to remove the oxides not provide 
more oxygen for making oxides.
peroxide works good for bleaching colors because it oxidzes certain substances 
that are colored.
It might be more involved than this in some details but that is basically it.



Take care,
 V
http://www.health-freedom.info/

 I guess I thought it would work the same as using peroxide to clean the 
 silver wires?
 Tarnish is different, but is all tarnish on all silver the same? Why 
 doesn't peroxide clean tarnish off? Guess I need a basick chemistry lesson.
 And why not use regular old silver polish as is used on silverware? Does 
 it leave harmful residues?
 I looked at the label on my jar of silverpolish and it doesn't say what 
 is in it.
 thanks,
 sol

 V wrote:

peroxide does not work in the same way
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Re: CSCleaning tarnished silver bars?

2006-04-20 Thread V
Hi sol,

I replied to your email and it refused delivery so here is my reply on the list.
Well I dont know if the peroxide removes that black stuff, I never tried it, it 
may just diperse it so you cant see it :-)  
I just use a paper towel to wipe the wires off and sometimes I use a scotch 
bright to shine then up.

I used the peroxide to turn yellow CS clear one time. works good for that.




Take care,
 V
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 I guess I thought it would work the same as using peroxide to clean the 
 silver wires?
 Tarnish is different, but is all tarnish on all silver the same? Why 
 doesn't peroxide clean tarnish off? Guess I need a basick chemistry lesson.
 And why not use regular old silver polish as is used on silverware? Does 
 it leave harmful residues?
 I looked at the label on my jar of silverpolish and it doesn't say what 
 is in it.
 thanks,
 sol

 V wrote:

peroxide does not work in the same way
V

  



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Re: CSLiver powder

2006-04-23 Thread V
Hi ransley,

Yupp good stuff I have been taking that also. I also use the powdered 
adrenaline they carry and the powder thymus. I put mine in my smoothie with raw 
eggs and banana and cocnut oil and other things and the taste gets mostly 
covered up. Think I will have one now.

Take care,
 V
http://www.health-freedom.info/

 I can't remember where this subject originated from so I'm posting it to
 three groups.

 This week I rec'd and started taking Powdered Desiccated Argentine Beef
 Liver from:
 http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/livering.htm

 What a kick in the pants! Where has this stuff been all my life? After the
 second day I could tell an enormous difference in my fatigue level- as in no
 fatigue nearly all day long.

 I'm taking a tablespoon in the morning chased with fresh squeezed grapefruit
 and lemon juice. I've been doing GJ  LJ a long time so these effects are
 not from that.

 It tastes NASTY, the nastiest tasting stuff I've ever choked down. Kelp
 powder is sugar and kefir is a milkshake beside this stuff. You'd better get
 some breakfast on top of it right away to keep from tasting it again.

 Never take it within two hours of milk or dairy, and you can mix it into a
 fruit juice smoothie, but I just prefer choking it down and getting it over
 with. I put it in my mouth, then swirl the juice through my mouth until it's
 all wet before swallowing; mercifully, the liver powder doesn't clump or get
 gooey. The acids of GJ  LJ overpower most of the nasty taste.

 Daddybob


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Re: CSLiver powder

2006-04-23 Thread V
Hi ddarrin,

Yes I believe it does, the powdered liver provides a lot of nutients, is high 
in B vitamins. Seems to work for me, not a kick in the pants because I do so 
many other nutrient potent things also but it does definetly add considerable 
energy. You should notice it in two or three days of using it.
135 g are equivalent to 500 g fresh liver.

I get mine here.
http://www.leviticus11.com/morlivr.htm


Why Argentina? 

First, the cows supposedly live a life of luxury at home in the Pampas region 
of Argentina. A region of Argentina that is fertile in natural alfalfa, wheat, 
and oat grasses. The cattle roam freely on the grand, rich, grasslands. Organic 
cattle in the Pampas are required by the Argentine Cattle Association to be 
raised stress free. They are never given any hormones, branded, or herded 
aggressively. The animals live outside, free range, running free. Law requires 
one acre of pasture land per organic designated cow. La Moo. 

Just as the liver concentrates everything that is good for the body, it can 
also concentrate everything that is bad. Cattle from other countries, good ole 
USA included, have hormones, chemicals, antibiotics, pesticides  herbicides 
(from the plant matter they eat), fertilizers, drugs, steroids, and who knows 
what else, possibly concentrated in their livers. Not to mention the practice 
of taking meat scraps from the slaughter house and recycled back to the other 
cows. Mad cow. Madder mad cow. Wash. Repeat. 

Be sure to look for Argentinean, organic, liver in any product you choose.

Take care,
 V
http://www.health-freedom.info/

  V
 Can you tell us if daddybobs description has Merritt with your own 
 experience.
 I just sent for some but I'm quite skeptical.
 Dave

 V wrote:

Hi ransley,

Yupp good stuff I have been taking that also. I also use the powdered 
adrenaline they carry and the powder thymus. I put mine in my smoothie with 
raw eggs and banana and cocnut oil and other things and the taste gets mostly 
covered up. Think I will have one now.

Take care,
 V
http://www.health-freedom.info/

  

I can't remember where this subject originated from so I'm posting it to
three groups.



  

This week I rec'd and started taking Powdered Desiccated Argentine Beef
Liver from:
http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/livering.htm



  

What a kick in the pants! Where has this stuff been all my life? After the
second day I could tell an enormous difference in my fatigue level- as in no
fatigue nearly all day long.



  

I'm taking a tablespoon in the morning chased with fresh squeezed grapefruit
and lemon juice. I've been doing GJ  LJ a long time so these effects are
not from that.



  

It tastes NASTY, the nastiest tasting stuff I've ever choked down. Kelp
powder is sugar and kefir is a milkshake beside this stuff. You'd better get
some breakfast on top of it right away to keep from tasting it again.



  

Never take it within two hours of milk or dairy, and you can mix it into a
fruit juice smoothie, but I just prefer choking it down and getting it over
with. I put it in my mouth, then swirl the juice through my mouth until it's
all wet before swallowing; mercifully, the liver powder doesn't clump or get
gooey. The acids of GJ  LJ overpower most of the nasty taste.



  

Daddybob




  

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Re: CSLiver powder

2006-04-23 Thread V
Yeah they say you cant taks it with dairy because of the iron and the calcium, 
but I do it anyway, and get my iron and calcium at another time.



 I make mine into a capsule you can't take the liver with any dairy 
 productsdeb

 -- Original message -- 
 From: V vzo...@yahoo.com 

 Hi ransley, 
 
 Yupp good stuff I have been taking that also. I also use the powdered 
 adrenaline 
 they carry and the powder thymus. I put mine in my smoothie with raw eggs 
 and 
 banana and cocnut oil and other things and the taste gets mostly covered up. 
 Think I will have one now. 
 
 Take care, 
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Re: CSLiver powder

2006-04-23 Thread V
Hi Sandee,

Well what they say is the calcium in the dairy combines eith the iron in the 
liver and they both cant be absorbed. But the way I see it I can get those two 
things latewr on in the day so I dont worry about taking them together at all.

Take care,
 V
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 Hi There V - This sounds very interesting - thanks for sharing this with
 us all.   What made you start taking
 it ?   Please explain why it is suggested that you do not
 use it with any dairy products ?
 Sandee


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Re: CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSLiver powder

2006-04-23 Thread V
Hi Jim,

Well its a matter of convienince and quality. try to find fresh argentine liver 
somewhere. I can add this to a smoothie every day but I dont htink I can cook 
up and eat fresh liver every day. 
I have not tried it raw yet either.

Nothing wrong with fresh liver now and then if you like it.




Take care,
 V
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 How and why is it better than eating fresh liver?

 Jim 

 -Original Message-
 From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:32 PM
 To: ransley
 Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSLiver powder

 Hi ransley,

 Yupp good stuff I have been taking that also. I also use the powdered
 adrenaline they carry and the powder thymus. I put mine in my smoothie with
 raw eggs and banana and cocnut oil and other things and the taste gets
 mostly covered up. Think I will have one now.

 Take care,
  V
 http://www.health-freedom.info/

 I can't remember where this subject originated from so I'm posting it to
 three groups.

 This week I rec'd and started taking Powdered Desiccated Argentine Beef
 Liver from:
 http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/livering.htm

 What a kick in the pants! Where has this stuff been all my life? After the
 second day I could tell an enormous difference in my fatigue level- as in
 no
 fatigue nearly all day long.

 I'm taking a tablespoon in the morning chased with fresh squeezed
 grapefruit
 and lemon juice. I've been doing GJ  LJ a long time so these effects are
 not from that.

 It tastes NASTY, the nastiest tasting stuff I've ever choked down. Kelp
 powder is sugar and kefir is a milkshake beside this stuff. You'd better
 get
 some breakfast on top of it right away to keep from tasting it again.

 Never take it within two hours of milk or dairy, and you can mix it into a
 fruit juice smoothie, but I just prefer choking it down and getting it
 over
 with. I put it in my mouth, then swirl the juice through my mouth until
 it's
 all wet before swallowing; mercifully, the liver powder doesn't clump or
 get
 gooey. The acids of GJ  LJ overpower most of the nasty taste.

 Daddybob


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2006-04-23 Thread V
Hi Jim,


Why Argentina? 

First, the cows supposedly live a life of luxury at home in the Pampas region 
of Argentina. A region of Argentina
that is fertile in natural alfalfa, wheat, and oat grasses. The cattle roam 
freely on the grand, rich, grasslands.
Organic cattle in the Pampas are required by the Argentine Cattle Association 
to be raised stress free. They are
never given any hormones, branded, or herded aggressively. The animals live 
outside, free range, running free. Law
requires one acre of pasture land per organic designated cow. 



Take care,
 V
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 Yes, it is extremely nutritious, especially that of the pig.  The down side
 is that it concentrates and retains some virulent toxins, so as always, one
 should eat clean.

 But what does  argentine (sic) bovine liver possess that makes it so
 special? 




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Re: CSKefir

2006-04-28 Thread V
I have tried the Helios brand whiuch is supposed to be the best and the flavor 
I tried was the vanilal and it seemed very tasty. I had never tried kefir 
before that so have nothing to compare it too. I also added soem Chlorella 
growth factor to it sometimes to make the organisms grow faster. It is supposed 
to increase the growth of the probiotics by about 4 times.






Take care,
 V
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 A few months ago I tried Lifeway Kefir. It was the
 only brand I've seen in any stores here in SC. I
 didn't like it much...sour and fizzy, but kept trying
 it.  I eventually got to where I actually enjoy the
 peach or strawberry.  My daughter tried some Kefir and
 said it was so bad she couldn't drink it and threw it
 away.  I was surprised.  Yesterday I bought a brand
 that was new to me at the new Whole Foods Market.  I
 tasted it, it was horrible, even though it had a very
 nice peach scent.  Tasted it again and again and hated
 it. I added diced peaches to it and still couldn't
 drink it.  It was Helios brand.  I told my daughter to
 never buy that brand and she said that was the brand
 she'd bought, that in Detroit that was the only brand
 she'd found.  I don't know what gives it that nasty
 taste but I found it totally un-usable.  Anyone who's
 tried Kefir and didn't like it, be sure to try Lifeway
 brand.

 Pat

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Re: CSPoison Ivy

2006-04-29 Thread V
Hi Jeff,

poison ivy is really not an infection. what causes it is an oily acid called 
carbolic acid. It soaks through the skin and combines with some substance in a 
lower layer of the skin and produces a substance that the imuune system then 
reacts to with blistering. I have had it many times and have not found 
something that gets rid if it fast. I wonder if the DMSO might carry the 
carbolic acid further into the body. It may not be good if it does that.




Take care,
 V
http://www.health-freedom.info/

 I recently have been infected with Poison Ivy. I am spraying with cs/dmso
 mixture in hopes it will be a quick cure. This is the first time I have ever
 had it. Is there anything else I should do to speed things along and has
 anyone else had good results using cs for this?

 Thanks 

 Jeff

  

  

  



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Re: CSPoison Ivy

2006-04-30 Thread V
Hi Jim,


That sounds pretty darn painful.
one tiem somebady haded me a poison oak bush in the dark to stick into a 
campfire. I looked like the mask for  over a week



Take care,
 V
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 One of the great horrors of my youth was to 

 1.  Fall asleep in the Florida sun on a beach nude, lying on my back
 sun-burning my entire front. 

 2.  At the same time, touch some Poison Ivy and then touch my sunburned
 ...err   thingy. 


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Re: CSWD 40 Warning

2006-05-05 Thread V
Hi Jonathan,

I have put it on my skin, because nothing else would give relief when I was 
getting an itchy spot, the more I scratched the more it itched until it would 
be raw and then it would itch some more. Tried all sorts of things nothing 
would stop the itch. So I finally tried the WD40 on it and it relived the itch 
considerably. Tha was over a year ago. I have since discovered the itch was due 
to a wheat(bread) alergy at the time. I stopped the wehat and the itch stopped. 
doesnt happen any more now.
I heard the WD40 has varnish or laquer in it and maybe fish oil. Not good to 
use on guns as it builds up a residue




Take care,
 V
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 There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin.   Please see 
 the link below.

 http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm

 NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an 
 ingredient.

 I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product.


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CSCS question

2006-05-17 Thread V
Maybe this question has come up before but I have not heald anybody mention it.

Question:

What happens if you boil CS ? and if you have lets say a quart of 25ppm CS and 
you boil it down to half its volume would the ppm go up to 50ppm?

V


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Re: CSbrown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread V
The flesh is not actually rotting from a brown recule bite it is disolving from 
enzymes the spider injects into the tissue. that is how they eat they liquify 
their food with enzymes and drink it. So if you had the bad fortune of being 
liquified then realize it is from a flesh nectrotizing enzyme. If you can 
neutralize the enzyme then it will stop the dissolving process. I understand 
enzymes are heat senistive so I wonder if so heat treatment would stop the 
process. 

Probably the electricity might neutralize the enzymes 

Take care,
 V
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 Thank you for your help pj :)  I will tell her that it is so easy.

 Barbara


   Might google for brown recluse biteelectricity and see what
 you get.  Some people use a small battery on these bites with excellent 
 results.best wishes,  pj


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Re: CSbrown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread V
Hi Barbara,

Yeah maybe hot water or a heat lamp might work also.




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 Thank you V.  Maybe he should soak his arm in hot water?  But will that
 water be hot enough to neutralize the enzymes?  
 I doubt it.  

 Barbara




   The flesh is not actually rotting from a brown recule bite it is
 disolving from enzymes the spider injects into the tissue. that is how
 they eat they liquify their food with enzymes and drink it. So if you had
 the bad fortune of being liquified then realize it is from a flesh
 nectrotizing enzyme. If you can neutralize the enzyme then it will stop
 the dissolving process. I understand enzymes are heat senistive so I
 wonder if so heat treatment would stop the process. 

   Probably the electricity might neutralize the enzymes 

   Take care,
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Re: CSMorgellon Type Illness - A different view

2006-05-28 Thread V
Hi SJY,


Well look at it this way, with kirlian photgraphy you can view some of the 
energy streaming off the fingers. And also we are all standing in a voltage 
gradient that puts about 300 to 600 volts or more between our feet and the top 
of our head  at all times. Any pointed surface usually streams off any excess 
charge so when you hold a Qtip in your fingers there is defenitely a charge 
happening there at the point. A real test would be to put the Qtip in a faraday 
cange and view it with a video camera from a distance and then see if anything 
moves then.



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 Folks,

 I too looked at a few Qtips with a strong magnifying glass, and on one I did
 see one or two of the fibers moving around.  I was very careful to ensure
 there were no air currents.  BUT, as an electronic engineer with some high
 voltage experience, I hypothesized that the movement could be caused by
 electrostatic fields in the vicinity of the Qtips.  Things charged with
 static electricity (high voltage DC) can exhibit some dynamic activity as
 the charge leaks off, and/or external things (e.g. hands) move in the
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Re: CSCMO results

2006-05-30 Thread V
Hi Malcolm,

You ought to set the clock on your computer to the right date.
I think you are off by 10 days.



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 Hi, no doubt many others will also respond, CMO is cetyl myristoleate, a 
 compound first isolated by Harry Diehl (sp?) a respected organic chemist.

 He was searching for a compound to cure arthritis, as a neighbor and friend
 had it so badly he could no longer work.

 At 06:39 PM 5/28/06 -0700, you wrote:

Bob,
Please clairfy, what does CMO stand foras you say, its been  a few 
months since it was mentioned.

Thanks.

Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net wrote:
About two months ago there were almost 100 posts on CMO, but to date no 
one has reported any benefit received from it. So I will.

During the first 10 days of April I took the 60 pills of Jarrow CMO, and 
as expected noting happened until later.

On may 17 I took my wife shopping in Wal-Mart, she used her electric 
scooter and I pushed a shopping cart and could feel the effects on my 
knees specially the left as it has almost no cartilage.

When I got up on May  18Th I found that I could walk with out limping and 
the knee pains were almost gone. As of today I still am enjoying the 
wonderful effects of CMO on my knees.

If you have a success story then answer otherwise DO NOT hit the REPLY 
button.

Ole Bob



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Re: CSpiezo electric gas lighter

2006-06-01 Thread V
Hi Acmeair,

I have made one of those. Its quite simple depending on the style of the 
particular lighter. if you get ones in the dollor store its cheap to 
experliment. I jsut break of the long tube and there is a wire inside it and 
that is where the chrage comes out. the tube was the ground for it so if you 
can cut theu tube real short and have the wire stick out then tha is one way to 
do it.




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 some time back, during the early days of brown recluse spider bites, 
 someone mentioned re-configuring a piezo electric barbeque lighter to 
 act like a stun gun, the purpose of which to zap insect/spider bites. 
 does anyone have the info on this conversion

 jim


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Re: CSWhere to order supplements?

2006-06-03 Thread V
Hi Pat,

You sholud use the email proagram to get the posts. there are search features 
you can use int the email programs to search the subject lines or the body text.




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 How is one to know the good supplement companies from
 the bad?  I was reading the post from Terry
 Chamberlain about a bone-joint-nerve rebuilding
 program and have decided to try curcumin with
 bioperine.  As with all the things I order, I wonder
 how I can know where to buy the best quality.  I'll be
 so glad when the archives are up and running.  Even
 with subject lines, it's so very hard to go back and
 find where someone recommended diatomaceous earth or
 the clay, or green superfoods or whatever.  I can't
 remember all these things since they were so new to me.

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Re: CSThe Godzilla

2006-06-03 Thread V
Yeah or you can jsut buy a ready made auto-switching godzilla from me.


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   From: Robert Berger 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 5:06 PM
   Subject: Re: CSThe Godzilla


   Terry, whether you use a 6 volt battery or a 555 timer running on 9 volts 
 the output is about the same.

   The timer also known as a zapper changes polarity every 10  to 3,500
 times per minute. With the battery it might be necessasry to change hands 
 every minute or so.

   Ole Bob

   But, Ole Bob, now you have complicated the subject when you admit the 
 output is the same.

   Instead of a simple 6v lantern battery, you are using a nine volt
 battery with so small terminals you can't just wrap a wire around them,
 and therefore you need more parts, like a snap on terminal for the nine
 volt battery so you have wires to connect. Also, you have added a 555
 timer, which I suspect no one here, well almost no one, knows what it
 is. This calls for more research to find out what it is and where to get it. 
 More expertise required.

   A Godzilla is, like Terry said, a battery and a wire. Not only that
 but Terry pointed out that the non switching often is possibly more
 powerful in killing whatever. And who can hold the 'trodes in the same
 place all the time anyway, it is very convenient to switch them with your
 hands. No deep vein thrombosis, if you get my meaning.

   Simplicity is best.  
   On the other hand, dipping the cloth 'trodes in CS instead of plain water 
 might make it work faster?





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Re: CSThe Godzilla

2006-06-03 Thread V
Hi Robert,


I dont think a 555 reverses polartiy dose it. I have only seen them switch on 
and off.
 I use an LM358 and I can run it up to 36 volts no problem.


 Craig, the output of a 555 timer is about 5 volts.

   Ole Bob




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Re: CSneodynium magnets for pain

2006-06-06 Thread V
Hi Acmeair,

here is some of the best research on use of magnets these guys did this 
research for  many decades. you want the north pole of t he magnet the same 
pole the compass attracts to when pointing to the north pole of the earth. 
there are lots of differing opinions on the north and south pole and alos the 
scientists dont agree on which is which so go by the research on this website, 
and ignore everythnig eles or you will become confused nad frustrated by 
diffrening opinions.
http://www.magnetlabs.com/





Take care,
 V


 just got my magnets from emovendo, and want to confirm which pole goes 
 next to the skin.

 the side of the magnet that kisses the south side of the compass gets put 
 against the skin.

 that would be the north pole of the magnetic disk attracting the south
 pole of the compass arrow, right  that jives with what i've heard
 about using magnets, and that is you put the north pole next to the skin.
 thanks for the lead on the magnets. have a gineau pig with carple tunnel
 that gets the first two. thanks again, jim


 feather...@netscape.net wrote:

Hi, just wanted to share what ive been doing. I found a site that sells 
neodynium magnets on ebay called EMOVENDO.I purchase 20 for about $14 of the 
1/2 by 1/8 disk. These are strong,N48. I use a compass from walmart...the 
side of the magnet that kisses the south side of the compass gets put 
against the skin. The other side i paint with fingernail polish(always faces 
away from the skin). I got a bag of car washers at walmart, and use one with 
each magnet to make a magnet attach to an ace bandage or clothing(washer on 
outside, fabric, then magnet facing skin). This holds the magnet really well 
to a sore spot(on socks, waistband, bra,anything that fits snug). Even 
masking tape, a bandage, duct tape will work. I hand these out like candy for 
folks to experiement with. They really help! Placing on on the pulse on 
inside of the wrist will affect the whole body, and if desired...can be 
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Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ??

2006-06-09 Thread V
Hi debbiegerard99,

the stretch is good thing, the kink however may be due to lack of magnesium 
that helps relax muscles. a good source of magnesium is Natural Calm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=natural+calm




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 Here's a question,
 Why does my body want to stretch when I am not quite awake in the morning?
 The problem that I am having with it is sometimes my unstable neck tends
 to get a kink in it when I stretch then I get an extremely sore neck and
 unable to turn my head in one direction or the otherperplexing to say
 the least because I almost have no control in the urge to stretch...am I
 lacking in something to be causing this?...thanks in advance debbie

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Re: CSinvoluntarily stretch ??

2006-06-09 Thread V
Hi debbiegerard99,

Well magnesium works to relax muscles so if your ilignment is out the muscels 
will tend to tighten up and pull on things so they get sore from over 
contracting. the magnesium sholud allow them to relax a bit more and not be so 
sore. you might find somebody that can do some good massage to release the 
muscles also, there are some techniques that can get it all back in alignment.




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 Thanks VI have lost the natural curve in my neck due to whiplash, do
 excersise, have a special pillowdo you still think the magnesium will
 help if it will help even with the curve gone I certainly try itthanks 
 again...debbie

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 Hi debbiegerard99, 
 
 the stretch is good thing, the kink however may be due to lack of magnesium 
 that 
 helps relax muscles. a good source of magnesium is Natural Calm 
 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=natural+calm 
 
 
 
 
 Take care, 
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  Here's a question, 
  Why does my body want to stretch when I am not quite awake in the morning? 
  The problem that I am having with it is sometimes my unstable neck tends 
  to get a kink in it when I stretch then I get an extremely sore neck and 
  unable to turn my head in one direction or the otherperplexing to say 
  the least because I almost have no control in the urge to stretch...am I 
  lacking in something to be causing this?...thanks in advance debbie 
 
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Re: CSniacin

2006-06-11 Thread V
Hi Malcolm,

your computer is still set to June 1 and the rest ofthe world is now at june 11




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 Yes, the tingle/flush reaction can be uncomfortable from straight 
 niacin, the other form is called niacinamide and does not cause any 
 reaction like that.  I don't know if their value as a vitamin  is 
 identical, but it apparently is pretty similar.  Anyone else know??

 At 03:29 PM 6/9/06 -0700, you wrote:

You want the naicinamine form(not sure if that is spelled right) it is 
alot easier to tolerate than niacin. YOu can get it at any health food 
store. If you havent tried it before, you would want to start at a low 
dose as some people report allergic reactions.

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Re: CScomment and report on control experiment, was Re: CS Science Project

2006-06-15 Thread V


Its about time you showed up, we have all been sitting here patiently at our 
keyboards waiting  for your next message :-)

Take care,
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 Hi everyone.

 I've been off list for about 6 months while we are making our move to
 Tucson Arizona. We are far from settled in but I just couldn't stand
 being away from the folks on the silver list any longer. :~)

 On Wednesday June 14 2006 5:37 pm, Ian Roe wrote: 
 Speaking to water or to anything that has water in it with specific
 intention can change the energetic nature of the water to your inclination.
 Hey! Now I have the perfect excuse for talking to myself in public or 
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Re: CSCMO

2006-06-17 Thread V
Hi debbiegerard99,

Wont hurt to da that. A good way to get CMO into the system is with DMSO you 
mix about 9 capsules and 3/4 ounce of DMSO and shake real good to mix it then 
add about 1/4 ounce of water makes about one ounce of special stuff. Then you 
put a few drops on the skin and rub it around a bit and let it soak in. the 
dmso will carry the CMO all over the body. there is a medical doctor that 
discoverd this and cured himself of Arthritis with this formula.




Take care,
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 I want to give mom some CMO but she cannot swallow pill's anymore will
 it hurt for her to break them open and mix with applesauce maybe?? thanks 
 much debbie

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Re: CSNiacin

2006-06-24 Thread V
Hi Teri,

It is when your skin turns bright red and sometimes in splothes and it feels 
real hot and sometimes itches the effects come on in absout 30 minutes and then 
gradually subside. It does not always happen, depends on current chemistry of 
body.




Take care,
 V


 Could those of you who have been through a niacin flush please 
 describe it.  I got the niacin for Gary and with his second dose 
 about 45 minutes after taking he said his sinuses felt like they were 
 burning and then he developed a head ache.  Is this what you 
 felt?  His Dr. said to use regular niacin to bring down cholesterol

 TIA,
 Teri




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Re: CSBob Berger's CS Research

2006-06-28 Thread V
I have the means to convert a book to a PDF file.
to do it with paypal requires the book owners to have a paypal account to 
recieve payments.  

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 One member has contact with the family, I believe, and will perhaps 
 inquire about Ode's idea.

 Alternatively, someone might offer his wife help with getting the book 
 available as a downloadable PDF file, purchasable by PayPal.

 I'd be happy to purchase the book that way, and had in fact asked Mr. 
 Berger about using PayPal to buy his book.   I didn't get a reply about 
 that.


 JBB

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The book could be scanned into a JPG folder and be made available 
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 download if no one has any objections.

 The rights to it belong to his wife, presumably. Nobody should re-
 publish it without her permission.

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Re: CSCS: dirty dryers

2006-07-04 Thread V
Hi Sickleave48045,

   Another thing to watch on dryers is the ventilation, if you have a pretty 
tightly sealed house then air flow can be a problem, a dryer is vented to the 
outside and it needs a contiuous supply of fresh air to do this, if it is in an 
air tight room it will stop the flow of air and the heat will build up real 
fast, I would say this is probably one of the main causes.

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 I bought one of those cleaning kits with brush and flexible shafts   and 
 adapter to hook up Vacuum cleaner at other end. Works good on piping (used  
 it on
 my Son's Dryer.
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Re: CSRe: Dirty Dryers

2006-07-11 Thread V
Hi sol,

   sure there is, when you compose a message look under the tools menu at the 
top of the text box and the is a place where you can turn off richtext and send 
in plain text.

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   I have a hotmail account and I can find no way to do anything with 
 regards to send format. No mention of HTML, plain text.
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Re: CSBugs from Brown rice

2006-07-23 Thread V
Dont keep your rice so long LoL. happens in flour too sometimes
provides extra protien :-)
   

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 this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike
 little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on
 the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an
 unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this?
 thanks to all debbie

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Re: CSBugs from Brown rice

2006-07-23 Thread V
Im sure they are cooked out  he he
V

 too gross are we eating the eggs or are they cooked out??

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 provides extra protien :-) 
 
 
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Re: CSMagnetic Rings

2006-08-02 Thread V
Hi cking001,

   Yeah I tried the rings for a while made my own with some vinyl hose and used 
duct tape to tape the magnets on there and marked them with a felt tip pen so I 
knew which one was which. Alex had instructions on his site to make them when I 
looked at it long ago. I dont remeber if I had any results with them, I may try 
them again.

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I was wondering if anyone here has ever tried Alex Chiu's magnetic
rings.  It is mentioned in   Kevin Trudeau's book Cures they don't want
you to Know About.  I am wondering if anyone here has ever tried them
and can report any results, either positive or negative.

Marshall

 Yeah, I got 'em.
 Gave them a fair run.
 Noted nothing of consequence.
 'cept I'm a little smarter now!

 Actually I got them for a lark. I do things like that at least once a
 year.
 I'm wearing a Lahkovsky coil now, just to see...

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Re: CSFunny!! Until you try it!

2006-08-05 Thread V
Hi M.,
Some info on biopsies
   http://www.karlloren.com/biopsy/

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 I was warned by my very well informed therapist about this and have read
 it in other places - it can burst things.  Make them available for
 spreading. And the radiation isn't particularly healthy, especially when
 they keep coming back to take more pics. R

 I've heard similar things about needle biopsies, too.

 Cancer treatment is in the dark ages, complete with torture.

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Re: CSDMSO

2006-08-22 Thread V


   An easy way to get rid of the itch of DMSO on the skin is to spray a little 
plain water on it for immediate relief.

Take care,
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 Marshall
 The itch I suspect comes from the fact that dMSO is a bit drying to
 the skin.
 The oily layer means you used a generous amount.
 It will finally absorb.

 Suggest you dilute your DMSO to about 30% (using your CS is fine).
 You'll find you personal sensitivity level by experiment.

 Chuck
 if it really is going to be the end of the world I hope they cover it
 on CNN so I can record it



 Chuck
 On 8/22/2006 7:52:07 PM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com)
 wrote:
 I just found, and bought a bottle of DMSO from the health food store.  I
 mixed it with 50% 20 ppm CS (and it got warm as expected), and put some on
 a sholder joint that has been giving me trouble.  I was expecting to taste
 it within seconds. However, I never tasted anything. I tried smelling it,
 and it does have a slight order, but not strong like I had expected.
 Anyway, after applying it to the skin, I was expecting it to be absorbed,
 like water on a sponge. But instead it seems to simply have formed an oily
 layer on the skin. Now after about 5 minu


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Re: CSGodzilla with silver electrodes - other uses?

2006-08-24 Thread V
Hi Rowena,

   Yes you can make CS with 6 volts it jsut takes longer and works better if 
you bubble air through the water while it going.

Take care,
 V
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 Harking back to old topic - silver wire as electrodes in Godzilla for use on
 the skin.

 I put the (thinning) wires from my CS generator on my Godzilla with 
 alligator clips to use on the skin, then got to wondering whether, in case 
 of need, I could make my CS by putting the electrodes in distilled water. 
 This would mean a 6v battery doing the job.

 I ask this humbly because I feel I should know this if I have been paying 
 attention, but having a ready made generator stuck into a hole in the wall I
 probably never listen properly when battery units are discussed.

 Be nice to know ready for camping or prison or disaster or power failure or
 ...

 R 


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Re: CSThanks

2006-08-25 Thread V
Hi Rowena,

   The blowing is optional LoL

Take care,
 V


 Thanks V.  So although I don't have to carry my electrical generator with 
 me, I do have to carry my aquarium bubbler.  Uh huh.  And if there is no 
 electricity, I might have to blow through it and produce a madly homeopathic
 brew totally tailored to my own germs.  Uh huh.  Just might work! ;)

 R
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 To: Rowena silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:50 AM
 Subject: *SUSPECTED SPAM* Re: CSGodzilla with silverelectrodes - 
 other uses?


 Hi Rowena,
Yes you can make CS with 6 volts it jsut takes longer and works better if
 you bubble air through the water while it going.


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Re: CSSore Knee

2006-09-02 Thread V
Yes the rebounder will do its job with even very gentle bouncing where 
you dont even leave the mat.
What it does is activate the lymph system which pumps lymph using a 
bunch of check-valves and the up and down motion compresses the vales 
and lymph so they open and close and the lymph moves along the lymph 
vessels. there are more lymph vessels in the body than blood vessels and 
parallel the blood vessels everywhere and then some. So the gravity 
fluctuation of bouncing is what makes them work. We humans are running 
animals and when you run your body bounces up and down. people that move 
very little, which is most of us, then have very slow moving lymph. If 
the lymph moves very fast you get almost instant healing. Our sedentary 
lifestyle is what brings on all the disease.

V

Dan Nave wrote:

This sounds silly, but be careful about using a rebounder...

An older person I know compressed his vertebrae using one.

I believe I developed a mild case of plantars fasciitis by really
overdoing it with bare feet.

Go slowly and reasonably gently.

Dan



M. G. Devour wrote:

Deborah writes:


How about one from ebay maybe?



I browsed on e-bay for a while before I finally popped for my non-
folding reboundair model direct from the manufacturer. I could never 
quite satisfy myself that the quality of construction on the various 
copies would be good enough.


A reboundair or needak from a private party would come up so rarely  
that I just didn't want the hassle of waiting, and the selling prices 
were not much better than the frequent 'sale' prices.


I'm still over 200 pounds but I don't feel like the reboundair even 
notices me! grin Good unit.




M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:  Dear Marshalee,

You write:


Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on
them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the
tramp... sigh.


You'd need to buy a really *good* one, but a rebounder is probably one
of the best exercise options you have with your current issues.



Be well,

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CSCS storage /plastic leaching

2006-09-18 Thread V
Hi Jean,

You sholud be able to get one of those jsut about anywhere. Just look for a Sun 
tea container or maker. theay are one gallon glass jars with a spigot.  I see 
them at the store all the time. Department stores etc  

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?hl=enq=sun%20tea%20jarsa=Ntab=wf

Take care,
 V


 Hi Harold,

 Very interesting post!

 I bought a top brand plastic container that has a spigot.  It had an
 absolutely horrible smell when first opening the cap but it disappeared when
 using it to make colloidal silver.  I wonder if it could possibly be a
 bacteria at work and the silver stops it?

 With this in mind, would anyone know where to buy a gallon glass container
 with a spigot?

 Thank you,

 Jean

 ***
 
 My DR. told me that plastic used for food storage leaches chemicals that
 mimic Estrogen.Women are more prone to Gall stones than men he said and the
 only link the Medical people have is higher Estrogen .He said Yes when I
 asked if this could be why so many men,as they get older, begin to
 femininize [due to increased Estrogen over testosterone],and subsequently
 are open to gallstone problems.As this was happening to me,I am now getting
 rid of all plastic food containers and going to either glass,Pyrex or
 stainless steel.All Aluminum and Teflon non-stick pans are out too.I store
 my CS in 1 litre dark green wine bottles.
 Harold
 PS: I had my Dr. prescribe Testosterone for me and there has been a marked
 difference in my body.
 
 
 
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Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms

2006-10-05 Thread V
All I did to reduce the flow is to make a hole in the airline and  
then you can regulate the flow by how far you bend the aquarium air  
line. a small cut with a razor does the job. you can adjust the bend  
by just moving the pump or jar a bit to regulate the air flow.

V



On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

Most inexpensive pumps are centrifical not positive displacement  
type.  A
centrifical pump can be throttled very easily, since they put out a  
pretty low
pressure, and are not harmed by the output being throttled or  
blocked.  For a
very low flow, try some of the valves they sell at pet stores for  
aquariums for
the air lines, or if you are dealing with a large flow, a ball  
valve from Lowes

or Home Depot would do the trick.

Marshall

Lea Ann wrote:


Ode,

Do you know which kind of store I would go to to find a valve to  
control the

rate of flow?

Blessings,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
www.FreeFashionJewelry.com
We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately!
(I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the  
advice :-)

Philippians 4:8

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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
Subject: Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms


  That's a good idea.
 And you can probably direct the flow to avoid high velocity  
eddies and

use a pressure bypass loop hose and a valve to control rate of flow.

ode


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Re: CSSilver list

2006-10-11 Thread V

maybe you didnt pay your email bill

sickleave48...@aol.com wrote:

Why has my mail stopped from list at this address.
Bob



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Re: CSHow to make the best CS?

2006-10-11 Thread V
Try using MSM it is similar to DMSO the way I understand it is the body 
metabolizes DMSO to MSM in the body.




- Original Message 
From: geop...@aol.com geop...@aol.com
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:56:00 PM
Subject: Re: CSHow to make the best CS?

god, you chemist types are so impressive does a layman like myself 
stand a chance with c/s.. new to it and not educated, in this area... 
been producing for a month or two,, just got my first amber product and 
was  happy with it,,, now if i could only find a way to use dmso, 
without grossing out the dept i work in,, i would be thrilled, 
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Re: CSsoldering, esp small parts

2006-10-12 Thread V
I got some of those to I out them on a circuit board , esier to  
solder. You shoulda got the diodes with leads on then, second time  
around I got those and they are real easy only have two wires instead  
of three also, look like a regular diodes with long leads



On Oct 12, 2006, at 10:29 PM, Max Sanders wrote:

I finally purchased a couple current limiting diodes. Excited. They  
came, I was ready to go further down this road to get to a better  
CS.  Less waste, more consistent, clear, small particle, less  
operator error with an auto braking chip, making more volume,  
kicking some very bothersome and persistant microbia butt.  But, I  
am not so practiced at soldering large parts with long wires and  
glommy results.  These diodes are very small and have 3 very little  
metal legs.  I honestly am not sure if I can join these things  
without a meltdown. of this little black box. Any soldering tips?


Maz


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Re: CSDiodes with 3 leads ?

2006-10-13 Thread V
Well the ones Max had had three metal legs ( leads) they are made for  
surface mounting and you haver to short two of the leads together.  
they are a very tiny IC chip smallser than a grain of rice, hard to  
solder



V



On Oct 12, 2006, at 11:05 PM, Wayne Fugitt wrote:



second time  around I got those and they are real easy only have  
two wires instead

of three also, look like a regular diodes with long leads

 What kind of diodes have 3 leads?   Never seen one.

I must be living in the dark ages.

Wayne



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Re: CSHow to make the best CS?

2006-10-14 Thread V
Hi Deborah,

   I said the otnher way aronud. the DMSO gets converted to MSM, so taknig MSM 
is very similar to DMSO internally. I read thta in John Thomas book Young Again

Take care,
 V
/

 V said that msm turns to dmso in the body...I replied to that thread...I
 take msm, which is not liquidthanks deb


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 Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:45:36 PM
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 Over the sink, Marshall. Over the sink!

 Chuck
 Newsflash: 
 Truck load of Viagra hijacked!
 Police searching for hardened criminals!

 On 10/12/2006 11:13:46 AM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com)
 wrote:
 How do you measure a heaping teaspoon of a liquid?
 
 Marshall
 
 debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote:
 
Hi Vlong time no seeyour right I take two heaping tsp. a day
  with no problemdebbie
 


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Re: CSDiodes with 3 leads ?

2006-10-14 Thread V
Hi Max,

   tere is a spec sheet that comes with theu little diodes that tells which 
leads to short together. And circuit board with the little copper spots on them 
then you can solder to the diode to the copper spots nad then solder the wires 
to the copper nearby. if you get the circuit that has copper spots thta cover 
moro than one hole it is the one you want.

Take care,
 V
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 Hey V, or other helpful brethren and sistern, I should have asked about
 the 3 leads too. Which 2 leads do I have to short together?   And as for
 surface mounting,; do I get a circuit board at Radio Shack or somesuch to
 help wire/mount?  How do I know it'll fit, take it with me and try it on? 
 I am pre ice-age.  Mammoth soup anyone?
 Maz

 V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: Well the ones Max had had three metal legs ( 
 leads) they are made for
 surface mounting and you haver to short two of the leads together.  


 
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Re: CSDiodes with 3 leads ?

2006-10-14 Thread V
Hi Ode,

   the spec sheet on mine showed you had to connect two of the legs together.

Take care,
 V



One of the legs is just an anchor and orientation device.
   Take a ohm meter and see which ones do what or download the Adobe specs 
 by googling the part number.

 Ode

 At 11:13 AM 10/13/2006 -0700, you wrote:

Hey V, or other helpful brethren and sistern, I should have asked about 
the 3 leads too. Which 2 leads do I have to short together?   And as for 
surface mounting,; do I get a circuit board at Radio Shack or somesuch to 
help wire/mount?  How do I know it'll fit, take it with me and try it on?
I am pre ice-age.  Mammoth soup anyone?
Maz

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surface mounting and you haver to short two of the leads together.


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Re: CSsoldering, esp small parts

2006-10-14 Thread V
Hi Max,

   Here are the ones with the leads on them that I got.
http://www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?Ntt=610-1N5298


Take care,
 V
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 Thank you for the detailed basics on soldering.  I was not even aware
 that I wasn't getting a nice 2 wire thing with a nice long lead.  They
 sure don't cost much, I may just buy those easy ones and practice on
 the short lead diodes. And I'll check out the specs on the 3-lead diodes too.

 M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi Max,

 I think you've set yourself at a bit of a disadvantage without 
 realizing it. The easier way to go would have been to buy diodes with 
 leads rather than surface mount. You may want to return them (if the 
 vendor allows that) or write them off and order some with leads.

 I've never done anything with surface mount yet. If you put the 
 following into Google, you'll get some guides to equipment and 
 technique:

 surface mount soldering technique

 As you explore electronics you'll find a lot of hobbyist info and rub 
 elbows with ham radio enthusiasts a lot. They are good resources.

 The most important things about soldering are clean surfaces, proper 
 flux, and applying heat the right way...

 If you're using standard components of any kind, the leads are usually 
 tinned or plated with something to prevent tarnish. Wire or circuit 
 boards may or may not be plated. If there is any visible tarnish or 
 corrosion, then scrape, sand, or scrub the surfaces gently until 
 they're bright. Something as simple as a pencil eraser could be enough, 
 or a knife blace or a little fine sandpaper. The exact method you use 
 depends on common sense and the mechanical requirements of the 
 situation. Leave your belt sander in the cabinet!!! 

 Flux is the next step in getting clean surfaces. It is designed to 
 dissolve the invisible oxide layer that inevitably forms on metal 
 surfaces so that the soldering alloy can wet to the surfaces being 
 joined for a strong mechanical and chemical joint.

 In metalworking you might use acid fluxes or borax or other chemicals. 
 KEEP ALL SUCH FLUXES AWAY FROM ELECTRONICS WORK! 

 The only safe kind of flux to use in electronics is rosin. Now, 
 electronics folks have made it easy for you. Just buy rosin core 
 electronics solder from any of the electronics suppliers. Since you're 
 working with small stuff, small diameter solder is best. Something 
 around .04 inches (1mm) is best. It takes very little heat to melt.

 Lastly, proper application of heat requires a reasonably sized 
 soldering iron, an appropriately shaped and clean tip, and a firm 
 understanding of what it is you're trying to accomplish...

 For small stuff like this you only need a 25W iron, and a small, 
 slender tip. You'll probably find good suggestions for equipment for 
 SMC use in the resources you dig up online. Take advantage of their 
 experience. You *won't* be using a big honking 200W soldering gun or a 
 metalworker's iron that's heated with a torch! 

 Get a holder with a sponge in the base to put your iron in when it's 
 not in your hand. You'll need the sponge and it'll protect the 
 environment (and you) from accidental burns.

 If you want to go first class, get yourself a temperature controlled 
 soldering station with all the bells and whistles. They heat up fast 
 and can pour a lot of power into the job, but won't overheat the work. 
 Expensive, but a real joy to have if you decide to get into the hobby 
 long term.

 Now that we've got everything at hand, let's see what we have to do to 
 make a good joint...

 Heat your soldering iron. When it's up to temperature melt a little 
 solder on the tip. The flux from the solder will bubble up and smoke, 
 and a small blob of solder should cling to the surface. Then wipe the 
 tip with a quick swipe on the damp sponge. It should end up shiny. 
 You'll do this anytime you pick up the hot iron and it isn't still 
 shiny. Often another swipe on the sponge will bring it back. If not, 
 another small touch of solder will be needed.

 Your soldering tip is now ready to apply to the joint.

 You've already made sure that the surfaces to be joined are shiny. You 
 should also be sure that the mechanical joint between the parts is 
 stable and reasonably strong. Using solder as glue to hold a joint 
 together is not the best technique in general. It is susceptible to 
 vibration and fatigue. With PC mount components you've got leads going 
 through a hole to stablize things. With SMC you usually have the part 
 glued to the substrate to keep it in place while it's being soldered. 
 Joining wires, or wires to terminals, you'll wrap or twist or pinch the 
 joint so it's mechanically sound before you solder.

 Finally, the big moment. Here's where you finally see what it is you're 
 trying to accomplish.

 Apply your shiny, tinned soldering tip to the junction of the parts to 
 be joined. Poke the solder into the joint near

Re: CSCurrent Limiting diodes

2006-10-15 Thread V
Hi Dan,

   Those are interesting little diodes. I can put a direct short in the circuit 
and they still limit it to 1 MA.
I calculated it takes about 5.5 to 6 inches of 14 gauge wire to give the 
correct surface area for 1 ma current.

Take care,
 V
Energize With Light
http://www.theledman.net/

 I think current limiting diodes is something of a misnomer, kind of like 
 products marked
 unscented which have scent in it, or like Liberal and Conservative in 
 the political realm...

 By the way, don't buy the exact 1.0 ma diode, buy one tenth ma less than or 
 greater than (ie. 0.9 ma
 or 2.1 ma).  They are less than half the price of the exact 1/0 ma diodes.

 Dan

 IV.5 - Current Limiting diodes?

 Constant current two-terminal devices can be made by shorting the gate and 
 the source of a JFET
 together. When the FET is forward biased, this results in a nearly constant 
 current for voltages
 ranging from roughly 2V up to 300V (or the breakdown voltage of the device in 
 question). In reverse
 bias, this kind of constant current device conducts as a junction diode (so 
 one can oppose two such
 devices in series to regulate AC current).

 Siliconix makes two-lead FET current-limiting diodes ranging from 0.24 mA 
 (J500) through 4.7 mA
 (J511) in plastic packages, and from 1.6 mA (CR160) through 4.7 mA (CR470) in 
 metal TO-18 packages.

 National Semiconductor makes a three-terminal adjustable device, the 
 LM134/LM234/LM334, that acts as
 a resistor-programmed current source diode, analogous to the
 'programmable Zener' TL431. Adjustment 
 range is 1.0 uA to 10 mA, and voltage compliance is from 1V to 40V (or 30V 
 for some versions). The
 current is slightly temperature-dependent (this may be useful, or can be 
 eliminated with a diode
 added to the adjustment resistor).





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Re: CSDiodes with 3 leads ( Question and Use )

2006-10-15 Thread V
Hi Wayne,

   Well here is a picture of how this particular three legged diode looks and a 
spec sheet for it that explains how to connect it.

http://photoman.bizland.com/diode.jpg

http://photoman.bizland.com/70711.pdf


Take care,
 V
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 Morning V and  The List,

  At 05:53 PM 10/14/2006, you wrote:

tere is a spec sheet that comes with theu little diodes that 
 tells which leads to short together.

 I think you and others have used this term,  Which Leads to 
 short together.

 It has been a bit confusing to me, raises some questions, and may be 
 misleading to others.

 I have used many diodes over the years, likely numbering into the 
 thousands.  At one time, the systems in the field were not perfect, 
 the manufactures did not have all their ducks in a row, and we had to 
 interface systems, build small circuits on the job site, and even 
 piece together a diode matrix now and then.  I would buy them 50 and 
 100 at the time and felt I cold not hit the road without a bag of diodes.

 I thought I had used them in every imaginable fashion, but maybe not.

 Still, the term which leads to short together leave me in AWE and a 
 state of confusion.

 Literally,  shorting the leads together can mean only one 
 thing.That is, unless the mounting / support lead enters the 
 picture.   Short one lead to it ?

 Still, in my mind,  Shorting the leads together can mean only one thing.

 Possibly you are meaning, Where to put the diode in the circuit  as 
 it would appear to
 short together the two points, but in reality it does not.  As you 
 know, there is a forward voltage and near a constant current for 
 reverse voltage use.

 Makes me wonder if several biased  in reverse  would not work as a 
 current limiter.

 A short is a short is a short.   How can anyone define it differently.
 Shorting the two leads together (  A two lead diode ) would render it 
 useless and worthless.

 Not trying to muddy up the water that you and others have already 
 cleared up, but don't want to see the beginner or the novice to 
 proceed with any confusion.   Or ... confusing terms.

 Here is a wonderful link for the person starting to learn about diodes.
 http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/components/diode.htm

 There are many not so normal uses for diodes.   In a bind, they can 
 serve as a
 Model Rocket Ignitor.

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Re: CSDiodes with 3 leads ( Question and Use )

2006-10-15 Thread V
It is a current limiting diode, not just a regular diode. It is used to 
limit the current to 1 ma
The third leg can be used to adjust the current I believe. the point of 
this diode is to limit current while make CS.


It is used with DC current in my setup so its not a diode for the 
purpose of rectifying current because the current is already DC. it is 
used to regulate current instead and the reason they call it a diode is 
because it also lets current flow only one direction. If you hook it up 
in the wrong direction nothing at all gets through.

When you buy them they are labeled current limiting diodes.

Wayne Fugitt wrote:

Evening V,

  At 02:12 PM 10/15/2006, you wrote:

   Well here is a picture of how this particular three legged diode 
looks and a spec sheet for it that explains how to connect it.

http://photoman.bizland.com/diode.jpg
http://photoman.bizland.com/70711.pdf


Thanks for the links.  I looked at both, and read most of the pdf.

Seems someone changed the definition of a diode.  I think this component 
is a bit more.

First,  Di means two, . I thought.

It appears he got the wrong component to start with.   Can't see why 
anyone wants this device if all he wants is a diode.


I understand that everything changes over time.   Yet I have a hard time 
accepting the fact that the lowly diode has changed into a 3 legged 
critter.


I suppose it works like a diode when connected as the drawing.

Nevertheless, I think everyone should learn the old fashioned 
definitions, theory and use before progressing to new devices that are 
in fact misnamed.


Wayne


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Re: CSMSM Where to buy

2006-10-24 Thread V
Hi Bruce,

   Why at BulkMSM.com of course :-)

http://www.bulkmsm.com/


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 V
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 Anyone know where I can buy bulk MSM online -- Cheap?
 Thanks to all for help;
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Re: CSgarlic to damon

2006-10-25 Thread V
Hi zeb,

   Why do you think it kills germs and cures people?
It kills stuff.

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Re: CSgarlic to damon

2006-10-25 Thread V
Hi bbanever,

   http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/garlic-brain-toxin.html


Take care,
 V
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 I believe it was due to the large sulfur content... he claimed it would make 
 one stupid.  No joke!
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Re: CSSecret health and longevity practices

2006-10-29 Thread V
Hi Malcolm,

LOL thats too funny LoL

Imagine all these peeple in the same room together LoL
V

 My, my.  from a bible fight to a pissing contest in less than two weeks!
 We are an amazing group, indeed.
 Take care,Malcolm
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Re: CSSeptic skeptic

2006-10-31 Thread V
Hi Deborah,

   Blood sausagae, thats also a european threat, I remember it as a kid along 
with liverwurst

Take care,
 V


 And what about that Mexican dish ...intestines filled with blood?...deb


 - Original Message 
 From: Mark S. Siepak bro...@gtcinternet.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:36:07 PM
Subject: Re: CSSeptic skeptic


 Bob said, I'm sorry but I just cannot get by the fact you are drinking
 URINE. Maybe it is because I was born in an age where body fluids are not
 for drinking.

 Bob, not sure you want to hear this, but bodily fluids are promoted by
 government subsidies here in the USA - Got Milk? And in Africa (I think it
 is the Masai) drink the blood of their bulls. They make cheese with a goat
 stomach, milk, and urine in the Middle East. I know keeshka (sp), a Slavic
 sausage, is made with blood, ground liver and kidney, spices, and barley or
 rice. It is really good! (of course, like all sausage, sometimes it is
 better to savor the flavor and not ask too many questions about
 ingredients!)

 I could try UT if I had some incurable disease, or if stranded without
 water somehow, but have a hard time with the idea. Maybe mixed with
 lemonade, it would taste like Gatorade?!! Then just add the CS right before
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Re: CSMetric equivalent to Gauge?

2006-11-02 Thread V
Hi Carlos,

   I measured my wire and the 12 gauge is 2mm and the 14 gauge is 1.6mm

Take care,
 V
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 Will someone please tell me what is the equivalence in mm for 14 ga, 12 
 ga,10 ga and 8 ga silver electrode wire/rods?

 Thank you very much.

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Re: CSMaking Clear CS

2006-11-03 Thread V
Hi Scott,

   two ways you can do it. 

1 is to use an aquarium bubbler in the water while you are making it. I have 
gotten it as high as 50 ppm and it still staying clear forever. Most of the 
time I get it up to 25 ppm and it stays crystal clear with the bubbler.

2 You can add a tiny bit of Hydrogen peroxide to it and the yellow will go away 
.

Take care,
 V
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 Can anyone on the list tell me the best way to make clear CS at a
 10ppm minimum w/o it turning yellow the next day.  I have a small 27 volt
 battery operated machine and use pure steam-distilled water w/o any
 sodium and pure silver strands (99.999%).  I can make a 5ppm batch that
 does not turn yellow the following day but wonder how others are
 producing 10ppm and above w/o it turning yellow.  I also store my CS in amber 
 brown glass jars.  Thanks!

   Scott Young 

  
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Re: CSNew police on cookies??

2006-11-05 Thread V
Hi Peter,

   Just sprinkle some Colliodal silver on the cookies and they will digest 
properly.

Take care,
 V
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 Hi:
 Some of you might have noticed that Yahoo and Google want to place an 
 average of 5 cookies every time a connection is established.

 If the cookies are not accepted the browser is returned to the previous 
 screen.

 A few days ego all Yahoo newsletters stopped arriving, after many years 
 of uninterrupted daily messages.

 Could this be due to fact  that I erase the cookies daily?

 Have anybody else have the same experience?

 Peter


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Re: CSThree 9's or Five 12's ( or ONE 52 Volt Source )

2006-11-05 Thread V
Hi Peter,

   Here is a ready made unit that would make all the voltages you want and be 
regulated also. It would make a kick butt CS maker. That way you could use all 
your time and energy doing experiments instead of building power supplies.

http://www.circuitspecialists.com/prod.itml/icOid/7859


Take care,
 V
Energize With Light
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 Wayne,

 Your comments are most interesting and helpful. I am fairly handy with basic
 mechanics and  electrical theory. But I do need guidance in the assembly of
 components that are compatible with each other in order to get a generator
 that outputs 30 - 75  vDC at 1mA to30mA.The reason for these ranges is that
 I want to experiment with:

 Different voltages and intensities
 Different spacing between electrodes
 Double or quadruple passes per electrode, the way that broiler elements are
 constructed.  
 Brewing time


 In other words, I need the help of someone who can tell me the
 specifications of the various components needed, and how they are
 interconnected (series, parallel) 

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Re: CSGreat Power Supply

2006-11-05 Thread V
Hi Wayne,

Yeah great little power supply I may get one myself. another cool thing about 
that place is they give some nice promos. any order over 50 dollars gets one of 
these items for free. I have a few of the Digital multi-meters they gave away.
http://www.circuitspecialists.com/level.itml/icOid/190

Some things I would rather build too but it would be for the fun of the 
building not to save money. As you found out   

Take care,
 V
Energize With Light
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 Evening V,

 That way you could use all your time and energy doing experiments 
 instead of building power supplies.
http://www.circuitspecialists.com/prod.itml/icOid/7859

That supply is virtually designed to do all the things he wants to 
 do.  I read the  complete PDF.Seems there are 3 models.
 I would get the highest voltage model but others may want the ]
 50 VDC limit.

 Anyone could use nothing but that supply to make CS.  Or. they
 could power other boards with the special features they want.

   The prices is amazing also.  I have paid nearly that amount for a 
 digital meter alone to mount in a panel.

 Years back, that unit would have cost several times the price today.

 I would not even want to collect all the parts for the amount of the unit.

 However, I feel that at one point in your life, you rather build 
 something than to buy it.   I have been there and spent hours and 
 lots of money to that goal.

 I still have two great boards I purchased when learning to program
 RS-485 communications.   Those boards cost $ 175.00 each.
 I added some switch brackets, LED's and relay boards to each of the 
 communication modules, which is all they really were.

 I had about 3 weeks fun with those boards, including mastering the 
 communication code.

 They could be used to control heaters, fans, pumps,  you name 
 it.   They are still on the work bench after about 16 years.

 The point is, if we never did things the hard way, we could not 
 appreciate the easy way.   The learning is likely worth every penny 
 of the cost.

 I have another power supply I built, a true switching regulated 
 supply with huge heat sinks and fans.

 The output is  12 VDC and 100 AMPS.  Next I built a load to test 
 it  to make sure the design was sound.

 I wish I had the cost of the parts back for that project.

 Peter may be one of the rare breed that rather build something as to buy it.

 But, that supply you suggested is a steal at the price.

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Re: CSThree 9's or Five 12's ( or ONE 52 Volt Source )

2006-11-05 Thread V
Hi Peter,

   If you get that power supply make sure you get the promo they give away with 
orders over 50 dollars the digital multimeters are nice I have a few of them.
http://www.circuitspecialists.com/level.itml/icOid/190



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 V
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 Thanks, V!

 That was a quick and helpful response. I do want to make good CS, not build
 electronics.

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Re: CSGreat Power Supply

2006-11-05 Thread V


   Yeah neat thing about that power supply is its not much more than some CS 
makers and you can scale it up or down to whatever size you want. Big 
electrodes or small ones. one could crank it way up at the begining of the 
process to speed it up and then throttle it back once its under way. 

Take care,
 V
Energize With Light
http://www.theledman.net/

 Evening V,

 That way you could use all your time and energy doing experiments 
 instead of building power supplies.
http://www.circuitspecialists.com/prod.itml/icOid/7859

That supply is virtually designed to do all the things he wants to 
 do.  I read the  complete PDF.Seems there are 3 models.
 I would get the highest voltage model but others may want the ]
 50 VDC limit.

 Anyone could use nothing but that supply to make CS.  Or. they
 could power other boards with the special features they want.

   The prices is amazing also.  I have paid nearly that amount for a 
 digital meter alone to mount in a panel.

 Years back, that unit would have cost several times the price today.

 I would not even want to collect all the parts for the amount of the unit.

 However, I feel that at one point in your life, you rather build 
 something than to buy it.   I have been there and spent hours and 
 lots of money to that goal.

 I still have two great boards I purchased when learning to program
 RS-485 communications.   Those boards cost $ 175.00 each.
 I added some switch brackets, LED's and relay boards to each of the 
 communication modules, which is all they really were.

 I had about 3 weeks fun with those boards, including mastering the 
 communication code.

 They could be used to control heaters, fans, pumps,  you name 
 it.   They are still on the work bench after about 16 years.

 The point is, if we never did things the hard way, we could not 
 appreciate the easy way.   The learning is likely worth every penny 
 of the cost.

 I have another power supply I built, a true switching regulated 
 supply with huge heat sinks and fans.

 The output is  12 VDC and 100 AMPS.  Next I built a load to test 
 it  to make sure the design was sound.

 I wish I had the cost of the parts back for that project.

 Peter may be one of the rare breed that rather build something as to buy it.

 But, that supply you suggested is a steal at the price.

 Wayne






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CSCS more than just an antibiotic

2006-11-09 Thread V
I talked to friend of mine a couple days ago and he had read
that the best way to take CS was to put it in your mouth and swish it around 
for a long time, like several minutes
and then spit it out. And do it a few times a day, that you get more by 
absorbing through the mouth like that than what gets into the system
through  the digestive track so I am going to try that for a while.

I talked to another friend and he reminded be of the work of Dr Becker 
http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

And that the presence of silver dose a lot more than kill bacteria, it helps 
the body regenerate tissue by de-differentiating blood cells and that allows 
the blood cells to change into any other types of cells in the body to 
regenerate the tissue.

So the presence of the CS in the blood basically gives you an army of new cells 
to go regenerate any tissue that needs it.

Anyway this has re-stimulated my interest in taking CS beyond just as an 
antibiotic.

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Re: CSCS more than just an antibiotic

2006-11-09 Thread V
Hi Carlos,

   right but I read Dr Beckers books and he dose say the blood cells become 
de-differentiated(which is what a stem cell is) and then can become other types 
of cells. the silver helps this to happen long with a micro current.

Take care,
 V
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 V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:

I talked to another friend and he reminded be of the work of Dr Becker
http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm


...and that the presence of silver dose a lot more than kill bacteria, it 
helps the body regenerate tissue by de-differentiating blood cells and that 
allows the blood cells to change into any other types of cells in the body 
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Re: CSLarge nebulizer for critters.

2006-11-11 Thread V
Hi Deborah,

   Yupp CS will work in those foggers. better yet get an ultrasonic humidifier 
it works on the same principle except it has a little blower and a big water 
tank so the fog is directed and you can keep it running for hours.

Take care,
 V
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 Speaking of foggers what about those decorative foggers that you see at
 the malls these days? They are for sale and really nice looking I would
 think you could put cs in those also right?...thanks much debbie

 Rich Adams r...@kc.rr.com wrote:  I made my own whole house
 nebulizer using one of those pond foggers that resonate several small
 discs at a high ultrasonic rate.  I floated the 'fogger' in a 10 gallon
 fish tank filled with CS.  The resultant fog I collected and verified it
 contained silver.  The fog can practically fill a house.

   Respectfully,
   Rich Adams


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   To: 'cs' 
   Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
   Subject: CSLarge nebulizer for critters.
   

   Anyone ever seen a dust collector for dry wall sanding. It is powered
 by a vacuum cleaner (large shop one).
   You have a 5 gallon bucket  1/2  full of water. Bucket lid has 2 hose
 connection  the one for air inlet is below water,
   outlet is under side of lid. When you suck air  (with vacuum cleaner)
 on top of water on sealed bucket you force all
   air into bucket through water. This action traps dust when you sand
 (with a hose) drywall. Now if you do away with hose 
   to sand and fill bucket with CS or a mix of CS and water. Now you have
 the worlds largest Nebulizer. You could run this in a pretty 
   good size room, with critters in room breathing in the CS. This could
 also disinfect the room. Only draw back in a house you might
   see some gray build up on walls from silver. You could do this in a
 room you were going to paint, let the moisture dry. After you paint
   the paint would have silver in it to stop mold. If we ever had
 contamination in air (God forbid) you could use this large nebulizer to help
   clear a room. You could blow air from vacuum cleaner in bucket below
 water and air out would be treated same way. This way last 
   stop for air is through the air and not through the vacuum cleaner.
 This would be a way to do any people or critters in room.
   Only draw back is noisy vacuum cleaner. The larger the vacuum cleaner
 the more air forced through CS/Water.
   I have a large Sears Shop Vav and this system does a great job
 catching drywall dust when sanding. It would make one heck of 
   a nebulizer.
   Bob


  
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Re: CSMink rancher

2006-11-15 Thread V
They make devices that put silver and copper ions into the water for  
swimming pools so the thing they need already exists
just modify it so it has only silver and put it inline with the water  
source.

V
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This mink rancher houses 12,500 animals in 37
buildings, over about 30-40 acres. It doesn’t seem
realistic to try to brew CS into the amount of water
that flows constantly to 37 buildings. The alternative
is to treat the daily 160-gallon tank of water that is
mixed with the animals feed. This would be done as the
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Re: CSLED therapy

2006-11-20 Thread V
Hi G,

Well I have never heard of LEDs pulling toxins and stuff but the way
I understand it is that the 660 Red leds speed up the production of
ATP in the cells helping them to heal faster and the 880 Infrared
stimulates release of Nitric oxide which expands the capillaries to
increase circulation so it is conceivable that some toxin effects may
have happened but only indirectly form the leds by speeding up natural
processes.

there are several ways to get rid of toxins in the body, besides the
master cleanes there is a good product called Homozon and thene there
is the water cleanse technique I learned from Pat flanagan which is
simple but not easy. and it involves drinknig exactly 4 oz of
distilled water every 30 minutes exactly timed with a stop watch and
donig it as many days in a row as you can. Its not that hard to do if
you have a countdown timer that runs continuously and beeps every 30
minutes and you then drink the water. eat only immediately after the
water.
there are other cleaneses also one can use . the people tha do the
Beck protocol use ozonated water to help remove toxins.


Take care,
 V
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 Hi V,

 I hear you are the person to talk with about LED lights.  My cousin has
 an LED belt which che used for a couple of years over her abdomen-liver
 area.  She found out in June that she has pancreatic cancer. 

 Could the LED's pull toxins to this area and then if not properly 
 flushed out cause the cancer to form in the pancreas? Am I way off base
 with this.   I am just throwing this out as I am an avid Master cleanser
 and a big proponent of flushing the toxins out and not just stirring 
 them up and leaving them in the body. 

 Is there any protocol for further removing toxins once the LED's have 
 pulled them out of their hiding spots.  She claims today that she thinks
 she is cancer free, which is a joyous occasion for us because she had 
 only been given 6-8 weeks.

 G Murray

 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

Ceck with V, he's on this list.
He's the led man!

   Chuck
Stock up and save. Limit: one.

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wrote:
  

Can anyone recommend an inexpensive LED pain reducing unit that works
well? Actually, I wouldn't mind a site that maybe has plans on how to build 
one yourself, too.

Thanks,
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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2006-11-21 Thread V
Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

 Hi everyone,

 can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
 i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
 as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time
 i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the 
 aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected
 in the cs community.

 i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a
 clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround
 cs use,
 any suggestions would be appreciated

 thanks alot
 Nathan

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Re: CSRe: blood/brain barrier, parietal lobe tumor was Re: CSRe: Re: CSpups

2006-11-22 Thread V
Hi Ronald,

here is some info on that.

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

Take care,
 V
Energize With Light
http://www.theledman.net/

 I've never heard of CS causing a injured or misbehaving cell to revert
 back to a stem cell.
 Can you direct me to sites, articles, studies, etc. that  support that?
 Ron

 Marshall Dudley wrote:

 marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: 


 SNIP
 silver causes cells that are injured or misbehaving to revert back to 
 stem cells, and then redifferentiate back to the proper cell types.  
 This I believe is what when CS gets rid of cancer often the tumor does
 not die, it simply changes back to what it suppose to be (just like 
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Re: CSOutage should be over...

2006-12-01 Thread V
I am recieving your messages but thats all
V



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Re: CSEarth grounding your body

2006-12-02 Thread V
I have had my bed grounded for a couple years. I
tested with the meter that all the coil springs in the
mattress are electrically connected together so that
makes a big metal gridwork in the mattress. I made a
hole in the corner and scraped the varnish off the
metal and clipped an alligator clip to it from a wire
that runs outside to a ground rod. also have a granite
slab under desk by computer with copper strips on it
that is grounded to the same wire. also put a heating
pad under the granite tile to keep it work and warm my
feet at the same time.
I would like to try and get some conductive fabric and
actually sleep right on the grounded conductive
surface and see what happens.

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 Has anybody tried sleeping on a grounded surface?
 
 Be well,
 
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  I stumbled across this last night.
  Theres 2 audio interviews on this site you can
 listen
  to.
  
  http://www.sleepingearthed.com/index.html
  Heres some of the stuff its suppose to help.
  
  # Reduction of inflammation
  # Normalization of cortisol levels
  # Improved sleep
  # Lessened stress and irritability
  # Decreased pain
  # Improved flexibility
  # Hastened muscle recovery following exertion
  # Neutralization of free radicals to a far greater
  degree than is attainable with antioxidant
  supplements.
  It also protects you from EMF.
 
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CSFwd: [Beck-n-stuff] Silver Info

2006-12-02 Thread V
http://www.purestcolloids.com/ionic.htm

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html#types


http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/protein.html



   


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Re: CSNeed help

2012-09-23 Thread V
My dog did this but was under a year at the time. I was told to look for
wheat and corn allergies and that is what it was. I didn't have to go
through any long elimination diets as cutting wheat and corn solved the
problem. Grain free blends in specialty feed stores all pretty good. The
stuff in supermarkets is always full of corn and cheap grains.
Worth a try at least.  Good Luck, Val

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Kathy Tankersley
babychicks...@gmail.comwrote:

 **
 My little shih-tzu dog, male about 7 tears old has started pulling out his
 tail and chewing on the spot, He's got the place sore now, I've been
 putting on CS, but he keeps it raw, Does anyone have any idea why he is
 doing this and how to treat it?   Thanks, Kathy



Re: CSrebounding.

2012-09-25 Thread V
Really? How come everything I can afford is crap not good for you in some
way. oh well, just some good shoes and walking.So much for my mini-tramp!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.comwrote:

  If you do a search you'll find a ton of information, many articles, on
 both the benefits of rebounding, AND the dangers of rebounding on a mini
 tramp.  On a mini trampoline is a great way to damage your feet, ankles,
 and knees.  DON'T DO IT!!!  But there is no better excercise than
 rebounding on a good rebounder - the kind that usually cost at least 300
 bucks and have the right kind of springs and material.  I'm not sure how
 the giant backyard ones measure in this equation - have no experience with
 them and haven't researched them.  Probably, almost certainly, better than
 the cheap minitramps.  But I'm sure there is a range of quality with them
 as well, some better absorbing and cushioning the stress of the landing
 than others.  Sara

  Marshall,
 Some time ago someone on this list gave information on a doctor who
 advises rebounding but NOT with a mini trampoline.  Do you or someone else
 have his name or the article?
 Thanks Mary





Re: CSrebounding.

2012-09-25 Thread V
Perfect! Just what I like to spend! lol

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv wrote:

  How 'bout the one I use?  Stand in a doorway, hold on if you like, raise
 up on your toes and drop gently back to the floor with your heels.  Talk
 about cheap!  Even I can afford it.
 Bruce A


 On 9/25/2012 9:43 PM, V wrote:

 Really? How come everything I can afford is crap not good for you in some
 way. oh well, just some good shoes and walking.So much for my mini-tramp!

 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.comwrote:

  If you do a search you'll find a ton of information, many articles, on
 both the benefits of rebounding, AND the dangers of rebounding on a mini
 tramp.  On a mini trampoline is a great way to damage your feet, ankles,
 and knees.  DON'T DO IT!!!  But there is no better excercise than
 rebounding on a good rebounder - the kind that usually cost at least 300
 bucks and have the right kind of springs and material.  I'm not sure how
 the giant backyard ones measure in this equation - have no experience with
 them and haven't researched them.  Probably, almost certainly, better than
 the cheap minitramps.  But I'm sure there is a range of quality with them
 as well, some better absorbing and cushioning the stress of the landing
 than others.  Sara

  Marshall,
 Some time ago someone on this list gave information on a doctor who
 advises rebounding but NOT with a mini trampoline.  Do you or someone else
 have his name or the article?
 Thanks Mary







Re: CSInversion table - was rebounding.

2012-09-28 Thread V
This method sounds cheaper and more fun, lol
There I go with the cheaper thing again!
I am all for what can help the most I guess and conscious of cost
in all alternatives. If we all bought every supplement and device advised
it would be extremely prohibitive! So many people have to consider costs
much more than I do, economics are a reality always to be considered.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jane MacRoss
highfie...@internode.on.netwrote:

 **
 I was told 15 golden sultanas a day soaked for three days in gin was a
 cure for sciatica - I mean you soak a heap of the sultanas and take 15 a
 day - well I don't drink alcohol and found 15 a bit much but I don't have
 sciatica now!!

 Always wanted an inversion table tho - do you have one Rowena?

 Jane



 The person who showed me his Inversion Table said he had fixed his
 sciatica with it.
 R




Re: CSInfo Silver wire

2012-10-18 Thread V
Hi! I am Canadian and got mine along with other items from Sota Instruments
in B.C.
I don't know if they are the best source for price but a very good company
with a super good reputation. Will also be very interested in any one elses
advice as
I really don't know any other places either.
val

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:59 PM, harsha godavari h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Any recommendations of a good source of silver wire for electrodes? Prefer
 a Canadian source or a US source willing to ship to Canada. Thanks for your
 help.

 regards
 hg


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CSWires

2012-10-19 Thread V
I am wondering if anyone can tell me how long I can expect to use the
silver wires I got with
the Silver pulser I purchased. I use it to make a quart  of solution,
 running it for 3-4 hours once a week.
I will be ordering more soon if needed. I am pretty sure I can get the rods
somewhere else cheaper
than the 40 dollars for two eight inch peices from Sota.
Thanks for any information and your time. Val


Re: CSWires

2012-10-19 Thread V
Thanks, I will have to investigate. I am in Canada so will have to see
about prices and who will ship here.
Thanks though! : )

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:29 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote:

 V:
  If you are in theUS, CCSilver  has good prices . There are a few
 others,  I found  using a search engine.

 Regards
 hg

 - Original Message -
 From: V highergroun...@gmail.com
 Date: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:32 pm
 Subject: CSWires
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

  I am wondering if anyone can tell me how long I can expect to
  use the
  silver wires I got with
  the Silver pulser I purchased. I use it to make a quart  of
  solution, running it for 3-4 hours once a week.
  I will be ordering more soon if needed. I am pretty sure I can
  get the rods
  somewhere else cheaper
  than the 40 dollars for two eight inch peices from Sota.
  Thanks for any information and your time. Val
 



Re: CSWires// Canadian silver dollars

2012-10-20 Thread V
That is neat! I guess I would have to use them in some other process
though. Some wires and gator clips type of thing?
I have a silver pulser so with other wire will have to find out what gauge
will fit into it.
More investigation on what to use and how to assemble it now to use silver
dollars.
For now though I have to run my dog to the vet. Sadly something has
happened to one of her eyes. Looked swollen and red and teary late last
night and this morning it looks milky on the surface of the eye. I had
initially given her a couple of drops of CS diluted 50% with distilled
water. It looked almost normal two hours later but this morning I had
better get a check done to see for sure what the cause is. If the remedy
prescribed is antibiotics only though I may if it is deemed a simple
abrasion/infection thing just use the CS for several days. Should I use it
full strength as some suggest or keep it watered down? I am uneasy as I am
new to this stuff and don't want to risk her vision. I absolutely don't
trust all the meds we are using for dogs or people though either so I am
really unhappy and scared for my puppy right now.
Any advice or anecdotes of treating same in your animals? Thanks for
listening! Val

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 7:05 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:

 **
  In a message dated 10/19/2012 8:51:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 highergroun...@gmail.com writes:

 Thanks, I will have to investigate. I am in Canada so will have to see
 about prices and who will ship here.
 Thanks though! : )

  *A few years back there was a discussion concerning silver for
 generators... Someone suggested the Canadian silver dollar which was four
 nines in purity  they said using two of them could last someone a lifetime
 of CS making... Lois*



Re: CSInfo Silver wire

2012-10-20 Thread V
I will find out what gauge will fit the pulser I have. Your price is good
and I am only 5 hours from Winnipeg where you are sending the other wire.
Otherwise I will maybe see about another way of using silver dollars.
Thanks! Off to the vet! Will get back to you later tonight : ) Val


On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

 **
 I have 10 to 12 feet of .999 14 gauge silver wire.   It was used in a CS
 generator that made a gallon an hour of CS, but has been replaced with
 silver plates which make 2 gallons an hour after only a couple of usages.
 They have been used for making CS so will likely be slightly smaller than
 unused 14 gauge wire would be, but otherwise are fine for using to make
 CS.  As scrap they pay less than spot, so I would be willing to sell for
 spot plus postage.  I can cut the length and weigh.  Looks like it is about
 .3 oz per foot, so a quick estimate would be about $10 a foot for it.  They
 were originally purchased from ccsilver.

 Marshall


 On 10/18/2012 10:10 PM, Bruce Anderson wrote:

 Google CCSilver.
 Bruce A.


 On 10/18/2012 7:28 PM, V wrote:

 Hi! I am Canadian and got mine along with other items from Sota
 Instruments in B.C.
 I don't know if they are the best source for price but a very good company
 with a super good reputation. Will also be very interested in any one
 elses advice as
 I really don't know any other places either.
 val

 On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:59 PM, harsha godavari h.godav...@shaw.cawrote:

 Any recommendations of a good source of silver wire for electrodes?
 Prefer a Canadian source or a US source willing to ship to Canada. Thanks
 for your help.

 regards
 hg


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Re: CSWires// Canadian silver dollars

2012-10-20 Thread V
Sounds good! Thanks!


On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:

 **
  In a message dated 10/20/2012 12:36:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 kscma...@yahoo.com writes:

 You can use silver wire or coins(as long as at least .999 pure)

  *I believe they said to put a small hole in the coin  suspend it into
 the DW with a bit of silver wire.  The silver dollars are four nines pure
 not 3.. Lois*



Re: CSWires// Canadian silver dollars / Should be Maple Leaf coins

2012-10-20 Thread V
I was all excited knowing my mom had given me some. Turns out the vintage I
have are only 80%.
Most of the rest copper. I will be looking for some Maple Leaf coins. They
sell them at the bank likely?

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:35 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:

 **
  In a message dated 10/20/2012 8:13:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 mdud...@king-cart.com writes:

 I don't think any silver dollar is more then 92.5% pure.  For 4 nines you
 need to use silver bullion coins, like the maple leaf.

 Marshall

  Marshall, I'm sorry I labeled them Silver Dollars  It is the four
 nines Maple leaf I am referring to. I thought they were called silver
 dollars... So much for my knowledge of coins.--- Just knew to check for the
 four nines...Thanks for catching  it  letting folks know... Lois



Re: CSWires// Canadian silver dollars / Should be Maple Leaf coins

2012-10-21 Thread V
Thanks, we are about 5 hours from Winnipeg. Being a prarie person, that is
just around the corner! lol

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 7:51 PM, HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote:

 You can order them from the mint directly and they will ship them to you
 or if you are winnipeg, you can pick them uppersonnally.

 regards
 hg


 - Original Message -
 From: V highergroun...@gmail.com
 Date: Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:03 pm
 Subject: Re: CSWires// Canadian silver dollars / Should be Maple Leaf
 coins
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

  I was all excited knowing my mom had given me some. Turns out
  the vintage I
  have are only 80%.
  Most of the rest copper. I will be looking for some Maple Leaf
  coins. They
  sell them at the bank likely?
 
  On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:35 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
 
   **

In a message dated 10/20/2012 8:13:59 P.M. Eastern
  Daylight Time,
   mdud...@king-cart.com writes:
  
   I don't think any silver dollar is more then 92.5% pure.
  For 4 nines you
   need to use silver bullion coins, like the maple leaf.
  
   Marshall
  
Marshall, I'm sorry I labeled them Silver Dollars  It
  is the four
   nines Maple leaf I am referring to. I thought they were called
  silver dollars... So much for my knowledge of coins.--- Just
  knew to check for the
   four nines...Thanks for catching  it  letting folks
  know... Lois
  
 



Re: CS Maple Leaf coins

2012-10-21 Thread V
Thanks for input everyone. I am very grateful. : ) Val

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 12:20 AM, yousouf eydatoula ey...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I use 2 maple leaf coins too. Instead of batteries I use a printer
 adapter. It has 12V and 30V DC outlet. I buy these adapters in the thrift
 stores, usually around 2 dollars.

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 *From:* Smitty papad...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:23 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CS Maple Leaf coins

 I also use 2 Maple Leaf silver coins . pure.
 I suspend them with plastic clips,
 and connect to 4 -9v sq. batteries in series.
 Smitty


 On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Harold har...@telus.net wrote:

   From day one I have been using two, suspended by alligator clips
 ,.[from Radio Shack, cheap] and I am sure the coins will last a full life
 time

 Harold







Re: CSanxiety and stress

2012-11-09 Thread V
So sorry for the stress you are under.
I have been through a great deal in the past number of years
and know how extremely tough it is. Meditation is something
to look into for sure. Also Qui Gong. Best wishes to you and your family.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 My world has been turned upside down.  After nearly 30 years at the same
 company, where I always got stellar performance reviews and incredible
 raises, bonuses and stock options, all of a sudden, without warning, I am
 told I make too much money and my employment is in immediate jeopardy (I'm
 a software engineer).

 If this wasn't bad enough, my body is responding with extreme stress and
 anxiety, which are severely affecting my ability to function in my job, let
 alone life.

 My wife has some anxiety pills which I have been taking, which help a
 bit.  I hate drugs, however, and am looking for other options.  I would
 think that some effective hypnosis program would be useful to get this
 under control, but so far haven't found anything that looks effective.

 Any help is appreciated...

 --
 Alan Jones

 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)



Re: CSanxiety and stress

2012-11-10 Thread V
Truly the only thing that helps me is to refocus on helping others. Then I
remember I am not here for me, I am here to give my life away
in meaningful ways, we can't take anything with us, so much of what we
have, strive to get, and keep is merely distraction and entertainment.
I like my stuff too, don't get me wrong, just have to keep it in
perspective.
I think for a lot of us, it is the feeling of powerlessness that eats at
your guts. Finding a way to reclaim your power, not of what you can not
control
but of your personal reactions to what happens to you. Don't let it  all
sweep you away with fear. I often think with more stress on all of us we
just
may have to start talking to each other again, and cooperating and sharing.
Just this morning there are snowblowers up and down the block everyone
doing their own little driveway. Makes more sense for some to share
and take turns, but we are so insulated from each other these days.



On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I'll stick my hand up for starting this, but the point I was trying to
 make was that in todays environment *everyone* could be a basket case,
 pumping pills until we are dumbed into oblivion, if we don't acknowledge
 and find contentment if the fact that we are mere pawns in someone else's
 game.  The answer is to recognise we are mere pawns and find ways to live
 with it, at least until the masses can turn things around.

 Pills only mask the problem and makes an individual functional, but that's
 about all.  Functionality is not quality.  The causes for most mental
 issues do not start from within, it's the result of outside influences
 and/or circumstances of which they have no, or minimal, control.  I
 reiterate, they are simply pawns in someone elses game, to be sacrificed at
 their whim.  If I can be so presumptuous as to cite Alan, he is but one
 example of an ever growing number when that comfortable ride starts to get
 a tad uncomfortable.

 OK, my apologies for kicking this off, just wanted to clarify the
 relationship to health, I'll say no more.

 N.

  Subject: Re: CSanxiety and stress
  From: mdev...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 18:32:44 -0500

 
  Alan Jones wrote:
   O boy, please don't go down this road ;-)
 
  Indeed! Politics is on the short list of prohibited subjects for the
  group, so let's not get into it here. The OT list is available still if
  anybody wants to continue the topic over there.
 
  Peace,
 
  Mike D.
  (List Owner -- for those who might have forgotten me! GRIN)
 
 
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Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM

2012-11-28 Thread V
I have been intensely interested in this conversation because lately at my
college there are people all around me succumbing to bad chest colds and
some with more flu like symptoms. We are close to final exams so no one
stays home.

 I have been feeling a cold coming on now and then but started to, k, this
is a bit gross, but snort CS up my nose and then hang my head upside down
to try to get it into my sinuses. Then I keep some in my mouth and swallow
tiny bits and try to keep it at the back of my throat as much as possible.
I should, and will now that I say it, dig out my netti pot instead, but the
upshot is that I have not gotten sick yet! I keep knocking it back so far
anyway!

This on top of downing an ounce and a half twice a day for this season. Not
a great deal but for colds and flu trying to target area more than ingest
tonnes of it. When I do get a cold I usually get really deep chest cold and
cough. Takes a good three weeks to a month to clear so super motivated to
avoid it if possible!

I was always interested in trying to mix a couple of drops of food grade
peroxide as I have heard it makes the CS more effective?
Not sure I want that up my nose but hey if enough others have done it and
gotten good results I am listening! Val


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:

  See, this is why I continually expose myself to people who have it,
 continually trying to satisfy myself that what I do will prevent me getting
 it.  I wouldn't have a cast iron immune system, and I can't be making some
 super dooper EIS either, AND I've been a smoker for decades, but no mistake
 I've had my share of wogs over three score years and some, but when I hear
 what you both say a little seed of doubt creeps in and makes me think what
 the...? am I just lucky I don't get it?

 But I am convinced it cannot be that simple, my biological makeup is no
 different to any other human being so all I can say is my daily ritual must
 be working because I haven't caught a wog in years, apart from the two that
 I thought tried to get me I mentioned earlier, and like I said, I purposely
 get close to people so as to allow them to sneeze and carry on all around
 me.  I am always warned to keep away and I always respond with bring it
 on, I won't get it g.

 I find this truly amazing?  If it's NOT the EIS, then I would have to say
 my smoking has lined my lungs so much over the years that bugs just can't
 get in g.

 N.



  From: dr...@earthlink.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM
  Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:05:19 -0800

 
  Same here. Oral ingestion of CS never stopped me getting airborne or
 touch
  borne viruses. And once I got the cold, even very large oral doses of CS
  didn't stop it.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:48 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM
 
  Neville Munn wrote:
   I believe if one wants to prevent the wog one should be doing as I
   do, ingesting a small quantity of EIS every morning,
  Oral ingestion of CS never stopped me getting airborne or touch borne
  viruses. Only misting works for me, but then I am very susceptible.
  And once I got the darn cold, even very large oral doses of CS didn't
  stop it.
  sol
 




Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM

2012-11-28 Thread V
Good! I will continue then! : )

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:26 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 This is how I got rid of a nasty sinus infection.  I think the trick is
 bending over and letting it get into the upper sinuses as well.  While bent
 over I also turn my head to the left and right to target the sinuses there
 as well.
 PT

 --
 *From:* V highergroun...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wed, November 28, 2012 8:17:29 PM

 *Subject:* Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM

 I have been intensely interested in this conversation because lately at my
 college there are people all around me succumbing to bad chest colds and
 some with more flu like symptoms. We are close to final exams so no one
 stays home.

  I have been feeling a cold coming on now and then but started to, k, this
 is a bit gross, but snort CS up my nose and then hang my head upside down
 to try to get it into my sinuses. Then I keep some in my mouth and swallow
 tiny bits and try to keep it at the back of my throat as much as possible.
 I should, and will now that I say it, dig out my netti pot instead, but the
 upshot is that I have not gotten sick yet! I keep knocking it back so far
 anyway!

 This on top of downing an ounce and a half twice a day for this season.
 Not a great deal but for colds and flu trying to target area more than
 ingest tonnes of it. When I do get a cold I usually get really deep chest
 cold and cough. Takes a good three weeks to a month to clear so super
 motivated to avoid it if possible!

 I was always interested in trying to mix a couple of drops of food grade
 peroxide as I have heard it makes the CS more effective?
 Not sure I want that up my nose but hey if enough others have done it and
 gotten good results I am listening! Val


 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:

  See, this is why I continually expose myself to people who have it,
 continually trying to satisfy myself that what I do will prevent me getting
 it.  I wouldn't have a cast iron immune system, and I can't be making some
 super dooper EIS either, AND I've been a smoker for decades, but no mistake
 I've had my share of wogs over three score years and some, but when I hear
 what you both say a little seed of doubt creeps in and makes me think what
 the...? am I just lucky I don't get it?

 But I am convinced it cannot be that simple, my biological makeup is no
 different to any other human being so all I can say is my daily ritual must
 be working because I haven't caught a wog in years, apart from the two that
 I thought tried to get me I mentioned earlier, and like I said, I purposely
 get close to people so as to allow them to sneeze and carry on all around
 me.  I am always warned to keep away and I always respond with bring it
 on, I won't get it g.

 I find this truly amazing?  If it's NOT the EIS, then I would have to say
 my smoking has lined my lungs so much over the years that bugs just can't
 get in g.

 N.



  From: dr...@earthlink.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM
  Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:05:19 -0800

 
  Same here. Oral ingestion of CS never stopped me getting airborne or
 touch
  borne viruses. And once I got the cold, even very large oral doses of CS
  didn't stop it.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:48 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM
 
  Neville Munn wrote:
   I believe if one wants to prevent the wog one should be doing as I
   do, ingesting a small quantity of EIS every morning,
  Oral ingestion of CS never stopped me getting airborne or touch borne
  viruses. Only misting works for me, but then I am very susceptible.
  And once I got the darn cold, even very large oral doses of CS didn't
  stop it.
  sol
 





Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM

2012-11-28 Thread V
I think if I was able to do this more often, it wouldn't be so hard to
knock it out competely. I am away for ten hours with the commute.
I think I will have to get a nasal spray bottle and dump the poison inside
and put EIS ( now that I know that is more correct term!) inside.
Then I can more easily transport and use through the day if needed.
: )

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:41 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I did need to do it several times a day, however.
 PT

 --
 *From:* V highergroun...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wed, November 28, 2012 9:12:24 PM

 *Subject:* Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM

 Good! I will continue then! : )

 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:26 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 This is how I got rid of a nasty sinus infection.  I think the trick is
 bending over and letting it get into the upper sinuses as well.  While bent
 over I also turn my head to the left and right to target the sinuses there
 as well.
 PT

 --
 *From:* V highergroun...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wed, November 28, 2012 8:17:29 PM

 *Subject:* Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM

 I have been intensely interested in this conversation because lately at
 my college there are people all around me succumbing to bad chest colds and
 some with more flu like symptoms. We are close to final exams so no one
 stays home.

  I have been feeling a cold coming on now and then but started to, k,
 this is a bit gross, but snort CS up my nose and then hang my head upside
 down to try to get it into my sinuses. Then I keep some in my mouth and
 swallow tiny bits and try to keep it at the back of my throat as much as
 possible. I should, and will now that I say it, dig out my netti pot
 instead, but the upshot is that I have not gotten sick yet! I keep knocking
 it back so far anyway!

 This on top of downing an ounce and a half twice a day for this season.
 Not a great deal but for colds and flu trying to target area more than
 ingest tonnes of it. When I do get a cold I usually get really deep chest
 cold and cough. Takes a good three weeks to a month to clear so super
 motivated to avoid it if possible!

 I was always interested in trying to mix a couple of drops of food grade
 peroxide as I have heard it makes the CS more effective?
 Not sure I want that up my nose but hey if enough others have done it and
 gotten good results I am listening! Val


 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:

  See, this is why I continually expose myself to people who have it,
 continually trying to satisfy myself that what I do will prevent me getting
 it.  I wouldn't have a cast iron immune system, and I can't be making some
 super dooper EIS either, AND I've been a smoker for decades, but no mistake
 I've had my share of wogs over three score years and some, but when I hear
 what you both say a little seed of doubt creeps in and makes me think what
 the...? am I just lucky I don't get it?

 But I am convinced it cannot be that simple, my biological makeup is no
 different to any other human being so all I can say is my daily ritual must
 be working because I haven't caught a wog in years, apart from the two that
 I thought tried to get me I mentioned earlier, and like I said, I purposely
 get close to people so as to allow them to sneeze and carry on all around
 me.  I am always warned to keep away and I always respond with bring it
 on, I won't get it g.

 I find this truly amazing?  If it's NOT the EIS, then I would have to
 say my smoking has lined my lungs so much over the years that bugs just
 can't get in g.

 N.



  From: dr...@earthlink.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM
  Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:05:19 -0800

 
  Same here. Oral ingestion of CS never stopped me getting airborne or
 touch
  borne viruses. And once I got the cold, even very large oral doses of
 CS
  didn't stop it.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:48 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM
 
  Neville Munn wrote:
   I believe if one wants to prevent the wog one should be doing as I
   do, ingesting a small quantity of EIS every morning,
  Oral ingestion of CS never stopped me getting airborne or touch borne
  viruses. Only misting works for me, but then I am very susceptible.
  And once I got the darn cold, even very large oral doses of CS didn't
  stop it.
  sol
 






Re: CSSolution for warts?

2012-12-03 Thread V
Man, we need a book with everyone's remedies! I would love to have such a
book, filled with treatments that have worked for people.
everyone has access to something different for supplies and there seems a
few or several pieces of advice for any one problem.
Using the cheapest most easily accessed remedies is the way to go with
expenses in our lives so high in most areas.
Thank you everyone for sharing. It takes time and I deeply appreciate the
people here and the good soul who keeps it running.


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:18 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Alternatively you can keep it wet with castor oil until it comes together
 and you can pull it out.  Change the dressing several times a day so it
 always stays wet with the castor oil.  I have used castor oil successfully
 for this purpose.
 PT

 --
 *From:* Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Mon, December 3, 2012 1:37:30 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSSolution for warts?

 I have had extremely tenacious plantar warts for a long time.  I
 remember my mother putting acid crystals on warts on my foot when I
 was 8 or 9 years old.  I ended up using strong acid on them whenever
 they got out of control, and had them frozen out a few times, but they
 would always come back.  They seemed to be impervious to colloidal
 silver even though I took small doses for a long time and large doses
 for shorter times.  Finally, I was taking MMS using their initial
 protocols for several months (never could get past 9 drops) and I
 found that all the warts on my feet had gone and the same with any
 warts on my hands.  That was several years ago at least and they have
 never returned, so I feel that the MMS cleaned them out systemically.
 They now have much milder protocols for internal use, and there are
 protocols for external use as well, such as for soaking feet, so I
 would definitely try that if you have access to MMS.  If you use it
 internally, I would caution you to use it at the newer low levels such
 as their protocol 1000 and take your antioxidants and baking soda once
 a day so as not to have any problem with the oxidant and/or acidic
 properties of the MMS.

 Dan



 On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:55 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
  I have an odd problem, and wonder if anyone has a suggestion.
 
  I have a wart (probably plantars?) on the outside of my left foot, just
  below the joint of the small toe.  This is on the ridge of the foot, and
 a
  callus has formed there as well.  The whole thing is getting large enough
  that it has begun to hurt to walk on it.  I'd really like to avoid the
  ministrations of a doctor, if possible.  Any ideas?
  MA


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CSTaking CS in morning with vitamins?

2012-12-03 Thread V
Thank you for the link.
I was also wondering if there is a problem with taking CS  at the same time
you take your vitamins in the morning?
I also wonder about adding it to pets drinking water. If you are supposed
to make
it with distilled water, is there a problem with adding it to tap water?


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Man, we need a book with everyone's remedies!

 I don't have a book, but this web site is great =
 http://www.earthclinic.com/
  Smitty



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