Re: One Bazillion Dollars to Whoever Figures This Out
--- Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Galen Tatsuo Komatsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:59 AM Subject: One Bazillion Dollars to Whoever Figures This Out Asked this on the Quadlist to no response, so let's try it here. Technically it's on a Quad630, but it's more about System 7.5.5, so let's just imagine I'm working with an LCIII. ;^) I installed Kanjitalk (Japanese localized OS) 7.5.3 with the 7.5.5 update, put in a bunch of games, apps and stuff and threw all my aliases in the Launcher Items folder. But I didn't want a huge jumble in one window, so I made four folders for the different groups, and put the option-8 dot in front of each folder's name. ...This isn't the first time I've used the Launcher, so I'm pretty sure I knew what I was doing... And I called up the Launcher's window. One group, four buttons with folder icons on them. Each button with the corresponding names under them, with the dot. Tried taking out the *Apps folder I made (Imagine the * is the dot) since the Launcher usually puts any aliases not in a group folder in one named Applications. Pretty much the same result. Buttons for all the aliases, and three buttons with the remaining folders. If the above sounds somehwat confusing, I put up a screen shot at: http://www2.hawaii.edu/~gkomatsu/launch.jpg The window in the back is the Launcher Items folder, In the foreground is the Launcher window. What went wrong? Given the general lack of settings involved with the Launcher, I'm rather stumped. If the problem is getting the folder to go away, remove its alias from the launcher. As I read you above, it seems you want the folder out of the launcher? Jeff I think he's wanting to put subfolders in the Launcher but it displays all the aliases in one window as if they're not in folders. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Monitor Power Cable
--- Mauricio Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:37 PM 7/10/01 -0700, you wrote: Hello. I have a Apple Portrait monitor connected to a Quadra 610 using an apple monitor power cable. For some reason when I turn the computer off the monitor does not shut down. The screen goes dark but the power is still getting to the monitor. I still have [...] John It will not make you feel any better, but I noticed the very same behaviour with my 660AV. Perhaps the outlet tot he monitor is just a passthrough to save a few bucks. Yup, pizzabox Macs without soft power don't switch the monitor power outlet off. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
SCSI Printers Re: IIsi still having problems
Canon's BJ10 was a combo color inkjet printer and flatbed scanner. One connection option was SCSI. Other modules were for connecting to non-personal type computer systems. It used four fairly large ink tanks and printed at 400 dots per inch. Hardly high quality by today's standards. The BJ10 was a few years ahead of those combo flatbed scanner/printers from HP and others. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive
--- Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: David Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 22, 2001 8:55 AM Subject: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive Can someone please tell me how to do this? I just bought a 800mg Quantum hard drive for an Apple IIsi, and I can't get the computer to recognize it. I keep getting the message that the HD is locked. Thanks a million. DP Search and download Lido 7.56 formatter. This may unlock the drive, unless it's formatted with an exotic drive-initializing program. Jeff It would also help if we knew which Mac with an IDE port he's trying to use the drives in. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Format a PC IDE Drive
Black*Fire http://www.blackfire.com.au/ makes an IDE to SCSI conversion adaptor that plugs directly onto the back of an IDE device to convert it to SCSI. Unfortunately it will only fit in a 5.25 bay, even when used with a 3.5 drive. --- Norbert van Bemmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the Drive Setup patch guide linked in the FAQ has directions for hacking Drive Setup to be a universal formatter for ANY drive, not just SCSI drives. That still leaves the question if it's possible to put an IDE drive in a Vintage Mac. Anyone ever tried this? I have some nice IDE drives I could use for an experiment. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Use a PC IDE Drive In Vintage Tin
--- Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are our chances we can find a nubus card that supports only one IDE drive designed for the 68040 class of Macs running that range from 20 to 40 Mhz.? Jeff Pretty much nil. There are (or were) general purpose IDE interface chips that needed an external interface to the bus. Most of them today are all integrated and can connect only to the PCI bus. If there is still a source for the standard IDE chips someone would have to design an IDE to NuBus interface and program a ROM if you wanted to boot with it or use it with extentions off. It could be done with just an extention but that wouldn't allow booting or using the drive with extentions off. Its the same thing for USB, but I doubt there's ever been a USB controller chip that _doesn't_ interface directly to PCI. NuBus USB would require a NuBusPCI bridge on the card. There may be a more general USB chip used in the embedded systems field, but I haven't checked that angle out. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive
--- Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Robert Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 23, 2001 6:11 AM Subject: Re: Initializing an internal SCSI hard drive I added Lido to my tool box. Upon checking it out I see that it will only deal with the 0 SCSI bus. Doesn't see the 1 SCSI bus. Am I missing something? Is my 8100/80 too new? TIA, -- - Bob Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're in the HFS+ standard, it won't work. With a mid-nineties creation date, it probably IS too old to handle HFS+. Jeff SCSI Utils made before any Mac had a dual SCSI bus will only see Bus 0. IIRC, a dual bus didn't come along until some of the 040 based Macs. As for PowerMacs, I think either the 7100 or 8100 was the first with a dual bus, one Fast SCSI II internal only and one normal SCSI internal/external. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wierd old external hard drive... any ideas on how to power it up?
It draws power from the serial port. But which of the 3 pin ports on the drive itself to use, hmmm? Crack the thing open and do some wire tracing from those two 3 pin ports. Maybe they're just connected together for daisy chaining power to a second drive. I wouldn't try running more than one drive or other power sucking device off the serial port though. --- Mike Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's Antiques Roadshow again... I inherited this late 80s vintage external hard drive (40MB, SCSI) , it came with a Mac Plus. It's badged as iDS Pro... which stands for Integrated Data Services Inc, of San Jose, California. The weird thing is, there is no socket for power at the back. At the back of it, apart from the normal two SCSI ports (Centronics-50), there are just two mini-DIN 8 type sockets (similar -looking to the Mac's modem/printer sockets.. perhaps a bit bigger), but with holes for only three pins, not 8... I had a look inside... can't see any obvious sign of a transformer or PSU... one of the striking things about the whole drive/case is how small it is, not much bigger than the drive itself. I guess it must have got its power through these mini-DIN ports... Anyone know how I can power this thing up? The Plus and the drive also came with a loose cable, that will fit in the back of the Plus, in the large socket next to the SCSI dB-25, which I understand is normally for an external floppy drive. The other end of this cable has a mini-DIN 3 plug, that fits perfectly in one of the two such sockets at the back of the hard drive... I guess this cable is related to the drive?? (The package did not include an external floppy drive.) Any ideas, before I ruin it with my ignorant experiments with cables? = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wierd old external hard drive... any ideas on how to power it up?
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:37 +0100 on 23/07/01, Mike Evans wrote: The weird thing is, there is no socket for power at the back. At the back of it, apart from the normal two SCSI ports (Centronics-50), there are just two mini-DIN 8 type sockets (similar -looking to the Mac's modem/printer sockets.. perhaps a bit bigger), but with holes for only three pins, not 8... I had a look inside... can't see any obvious sign of a transformer or PSU... one of the striking things about the whole drive/case is how small it is, not much bigger than the drive itself. I guess it must have got its power through these mini-DIN ports... I bet those are power ports that an external power supply plugged into. I wouldn't plug em into the Mac serial port if I were you, mostly because the Mac serial port doesn't carry any power on it at all, so it just won't do anything (at best) or might kill the Mac (at worst). Hmm, yeah, no power on the Plus and newer serial ports until the 9pin GeoPort came along. The 128 through 512Ke had power at the serial ports. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: non mac monitors
The Belkin F3H1381 is a bit on the expensive side, but it will make dang near any monitor work on any Mac with a DB15 monitor port. It compensates for all the combinations of sysnch on green/H-V synch/composite synch plus scan frequencies. A wonderful doo-dad to have if you're teching on a pile of older Macs. --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 15:58 + on 23/07/01, Dana Collins wrote: Where to get them cheaply? Aye, there's the rub! That I'd like to know as Define cheap. I call $10 about average. An LC isn't worth that, but $10 for a VGA adapter so you can use the monitor on a Power Mac is probably worth it. The nice thing is that once you have the adapter, you can use that monitor on just about any Mac that has an external monitor port. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII type 28 error
--- Chelley Vician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Addendum to Gregg's comment I made up a special Conflict Catcher set -- system 7-7.5.5 only PLUS the FWB CD-ROM Toolkit group --- and tried booting with this setup. Here is the message I got: An unexpected error occurred, because an error of type 28 occurred. The CD-ROM drive is the only SCSI device that is connected to the LCIII. Also, if the SyQuest driver is a problem (and in the set above I have it disabled), what else can be used as a driver for the SyQuest? Just about any hard disk driver other than Apple's, if it supports removable devices. One I use is Turbo MO Mounter which does a nice job of ensuring my Magneto Optical drive mounts when I pop the disk in. Looks like it should work with other removables. An alternative is just popping a disk in before booting. Then the system loads the driver off that disk and uses it for all other disks put in that drive that session. Its a risky business though if you have disks with different brands of driver. Some of them don't like each other a lot. *CRASH**BOMB* = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Self crashing apps. Re: Most Stable OS
Netscape's favorite tactic is scribbling over itself in memory, at least on Windows. How do I tell if a Mac app crash is due to the app overwriting part of its main executable in RAM? At any rate, especially after 20+ years, _I_ find it amazing that programmers still haven't come up with a 99.999% perfect way of keeping applications from doing this, no matter what OS or platform. :P How hard can it be for the app to look around and see that its current memory location starts at _this_ address and ends at _that_ one, then create a temporary file saying Thou shall NOT write ANYTHING upon thyself.??? I'm sick of seeing NETSCAPE.EXE caused a (pick an error) in NETSCAPE.EXE. Bleagh. I suppose I'd need a debugger loaded to catch Mac apps blowing their own bits out? All systems can do with these bad app-les is to quarrantine them and sweep up the debris. Win NT/2K, OSX, Linux etc can do that. Mac System/OS 9.1 and older and WinMe/9x/3.xx can't. Its still best to reboot after an app crashes, no telling what little nuggets its left behind just waiting to cause some normally stable app to blow up. --- James S Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Part of the problem with Netscape 2.0 to 4.7x is that it was designed to be internally multithreaded, using a Netscape thread manager, rather than a system one*. The root of this came from Mac System 7 and 16-bit Windows. Those systems didn't have thread managers. The result is a monstrously monolithic and huge application, which uses so many resources that it can block the system I/O queues, even on multithreaded, pre-emptive multitasking systems like OS/2 or Win9x (although perhaps not NT). The system has to be rebooted because you can't get back to the Finder/WorkPlace Shell/Explorer to kill it when it hangs. To their credit, this design provided some real benefits on a 68k Mac. I can be downloading something while sending an email or reading a web page, etc. *I think NS 4.x actually uses a system thread manager extension for OS 7.5.5 and earlier. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Self crashing apps. Re: Most Stable OS
--- James S Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one of the advantages of Netscape on the classic Mac OS. Any application creates it's own memory partition and only the most remarkably buggy apps will overwrite another app's partition (maybe something not 32-bit clean?). Netscape and some others go one step further. Once it has a partition, it never releases it back to the system*. If you quit NS and restart it, it will use exactly the same space it previously occupied. I suspect that one reason NS will freeze the system if you restart it after it crashes is that it tries to reclaim that space, but the system sees as a new app trying to overwrite another's partition and it traps the protection violation. I don't necessarily reboot immediately after all apps abend, but I would never try to run some, like NS, without rebooting. *So, if you've allocated 24 MB of your 128 MB to Netscape and then close it, you will not get that memory back for other applications without rebooting. No wonder Jump Development said you shouldn't even think about thinking about using RAM Charger on Netscape. :P (Another nasty bit with Netscape is it's not fully Smart Scroll Aware, the thumbs are fixed at the default size.) At Netscape, we read the programming manuals for the OS, then do what they say NOT to do! = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
RAM Charger.
Who all here uses RAM Charger? OK, how many RAM Charger users also own a non Vintage Mac with OS 8.5 through 9.1? Of course you know that using RAM Charger on OS 8.5 or 8.6 is a bit iffy and it doesn't work on 9.x. Sooo, now that work on the classic Mac OS has been terminated (supposedly) Apple won't be dinking with the OS bits that gave RAM Charger fits with OS 8.5 and up. Makes me wonder if it was deliberate sabotage by Apple because they couldn't/wouldn't come up with better memory management and hated being shown up? ;) IMHO, Apple shoulda bought out Jump Dev. or licensed their technology to improve the Mac for all Mac users. (But nooo, just like several other bits they left it to the aftermarket to do it better.) How about we start e-mailing Jump Development asking for one more update to RAM Charger? I'm sure there are plenty more enhancements possible for 68k and PowerMacs in the area of memory management! Maybe they can even tame Netscape. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Most stable OS
--- David Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding Pagmaker 6.5, it crasher quite frequently on it's on. I beginning to wonder if I should have stayed with my old friend Pagemaker 6.0. PM 6.5 crashed this morning as I was attempting to run Outlook Express. David Its always so much fun to have your Mac say... Umm, this application just quit itself and I don't know why, maybe I do but it would just confuse you if I told you. Why don't you try running it again and see if it does that again? Woops! It quit itself again. Have another go-round? Hey! Look at that, its running! I'm still trying to find out what a -671 error is. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
A funny search result for Error -671. :)
I've been trying to find out what the heck a Mac Error -671 is, so I popped Error -671 (use the quotes) into http://www.dogpile.com Scroll down to where it says Are you looking for: One of the suggestions is Bill Gates Home. LOL! Now I know what is causing Error -671. All that FUD from Redmond. ;) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: fx termination
Sounds like an active terminator, which should work better than the Special Black IIfx one. Termination power must be provided to the bus, either by the host adaptor (Mac) or one of the drives to use an active terminator. Its generally not a good idea to have more than two devices providing termination power to the bus. Set one device to provide power to the bus and the rest to provide termination power only to themselves or disable it on them. --- Desert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Mac IIfx terminator is black with no green light. -- Paul/. 95 black 3000GT VR-4 98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit formerly reasonable and prudent on 7/25/01 10:15, Scott Barber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: I tried to post this question the other day, but it hasn't appeared on the last two digests, here it is again: Does the black terminator used for external SCSI devices with the MacIIfx have a green led? I'm being given one, and want to use the correct terminator... = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
7.7.5 update. Re: my stash of Macs
--- RomRider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just a brief defence of 486 machines, I am a mac fan but I also have several 486 machines that are quite useful... The only thing you need in an old 486 to make it useful is lots of ram, if you can squeeze 32 megs or more in you can run a nice distro of linux... I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it has open transport built right in. ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/System_7.5.5_Update/ If you aren't English-North_American, just back up a few directory levels and drill down again. After installing 7.5.5 you should install OT 1.1.1 followed immediately (after reboot) OT 1.1.2, both of which are also on ftp.apple.com somewhere. :) P.S. See the FAQ URL which is somewhere in the footer of every message you get on this list. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: fx termination
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Barber wrote: Does the black terminator used for external SCSI devices with the MacIIfx have a green led? I'm being given one, and want to use the correct terminator... IMHO the special fx terminator isn't needed for short distances. SCSI is specified to work over a long distance that most of us never encounter. Longer distances require more ideal termination (i.e. impedance matching). My fx has always worked fine with standard external SCSI termination at lengths up to 4 feet, and I bet it would go up to at least 10 feet with no problem. Gamba http://www.accesscom.com/~gamba There is an article somewhere at apple.com which tells which IIfx models need the special terminators. IIfx shipped prior to (some date) need the special external terminator and an internal SCSI filter or internal special terminator if not using an internal drive. (Who would ever have ordered, let alone used, a IIfx without an internal HD?) IIfx shipped after that date do not require any of the special terminators or filters. Apparently at some point Apple fixed the problem. Unfortunately they didn't put any easily identifiable marking on the logic boards or anywhere else to tell which are the revised ones. :P Someone had a website with a Mac serial number decoder so you could tell when your Mac was built, but Apple threw a fit and threatened to engage in lawyer tossing over it. The first power up date in PRAM is not a sure fire indicator of how old the Mac is. If you leave the PRAM battery out or dead long enough the PRAM will totally erase and lose that setting. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
manufacture date Re: fx termination
--- Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gregg Eshelman wrote: Unfortunately they didn't put any easily identifiable marking on the logic boards or anywhere else to tell which are the revised ones. :P Someone had a website with a Mac serial number decoder so you could tell when your Mac was built, I can tell you how to decode it on an old model. The first character or 2 are letters. It/they denote the plant that the Mac was made in. The next digit is the last # of the year, and the following 2 digits are the week it was made. So if you have a serial # that says: F4420351PT it was manufactured in the 42nd week of 1994 at the Fremont California plant. That could also be 1994. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: manufacture date Re: fx termination
--- Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gregg Eshelman wrote: Unfortunately they didn't put any easily identifiable marking on the logic boards or anywhere else to tell which are the revised ones. :P Someone had a website with a Mac serial number decoder so you could tell when your Mac was built, I can tell you how to decode it on an old model. The first character or 2 are letters. It/they denote the plant that the Mac was made in. The next digit is the last # of the year, and the following 2 digits are the week it was made. So if you have a serial # that says: F4420351PT it was manufactured in the 42nd week of 1994 at the Fremont California plant. That could also be 1994. :) DOH! 1984... Nine-Teen Eighty-Four. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Vicarious Lisas. Re: my stash of macs
--- Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2. I'm wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it. I have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna sell, but that trade -- Kyle H. Hansen What are you talking about? Hell yeah that's a good trade! Maybe not for the guy losing the Lisa, but... :) Don't pass this one up! Even if it is an XL - I'd *love* to have even an XL! Go for it, and then I can live vicariously. :) Lisa emulation is progressing slowly. At least MESS has a Lisa component that throws something onscreen. http://mess.emuverse.com/ http://www.pla-netx.com/linebackn/guis/lisa.html http://lisa.sunder.net/ http://www.cs.swarthmore.edu/~tom/cs23/final/ = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: System 7.5.5 [was: my stash of Macs]
--- RomRider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's got all 10 megs of ram in it and seems to run 7.5.3 very well... I only want to update to 7.5.5 so I can get open transport going since I can't figure out how to get it on the net using DHCP and my cablemodem... You DON'T NEED 7.5.x to run Open Transport. Go to http://devworld.apple.com/sdk and download then install Drag Manager, Thread Manager and SFM 68k. Then get Open Transport 1.1.1 AND 1.1.2 from Apple's FTP site. Install 1.1.1 then immediately after rebooting, install 1.1.2. You'll also want to replace the 7.1 Finder with Finder 7.1.3 that comes with Drag Manager, even though the included instructions say it doesn't. Its also a good idea to trash any extentions and control panels, or at least disable them, that don't work with the LC. Control panels are easy, just doubleclick on each one and dump the ones that say they won't work on this Macintosh. For extentions you'll need a guide or someone who knows them well. Anything that says PowerBook can go straight to the trashcan. (Unless you have a PowerBook. ;-) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Bin files. Re: System 7.5.5 [was: my stash of Macs]
Hmm, MacBinary files usually download OK onto a PC. Tried dropping them onto Stuffit Expander or running Expander then using the menu commands to manually decode them? And, um, doesn't Open Transport require at least an 030 CPU? Or have I forgotten something? Haven't ever actually used a Mac II or LC and the only 68000 based Mac I've used was a Classic with a bad HD. Everything else has sported an 030 and newer. --- RomRider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now on to my next small probem, the three disk update floppies are .sea.bin files which when I download through my PC get mangled as many people have told me before... anyone willing to convert them to .HQX files for me so I can bring them down to floppies using my PC then transfer them to my mac via the PeeSea? my mac does not yet have any access to the network because macTCP does not seem to be able to use shaw@home's DHCP... = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Where to get RAM?
--- Kevin Altenhofel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can I find 80ns 30-pin SIMMs? Either 4 or 16 MB. This is something that I thought I could find in the FAQ, but I didn't (this doesn't mean it's not there, just that I didn't find it). I'm new to the list, so be gentle. Thanks. What Mac are you needing the RAM for? Faster ones will work fine. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
RAM-ing speed! Re: Where to get RAM?
--- Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've often wondered what would happen if one tried SLOWER SIMMs that those listed as the minimum requirement. Everymac.com has various Macs noted as requiring 80ns, 70ns, 60ns, et al. My curiosity hasn't been so burning that I've bought slower SIMMs for this purpose and tried them in a Mac, but it would be interesting to know why this SIMM speed requirement is important, and why it varies so from Mac to Mac, even among Macs made around the same time. On the RAM bus, the memory controller sets the timing of reads and writes. When the bus is set for a read or write, it waits a certain amount of time for the RAM to be ready to read or write. If you use too slow of RAM it won't be ready to be read or written before the time for the operation to take place ends. Then you get a memory error and bad stuff happens. To some extent older computers can be sped up by using faster RAM than the slowest specified. The reason is that a computer that requires at least 80ns RAM will read or write data the very instant the RAM is ready. Older systems generally used a longer window of time for RAM operations to take place. Popping 60ns RAM into a system specced for 100ns will allow most memory operations to take place right at the start of the time window, thus giving a mild speedup. 10-15 years ago when I was using 8088/80286/80386 PCs it was quite easy to see the speed difference when I upgraded a box to 60ns or 70ns RAM. The RAM test part of bootup would fly by with a BTTT! instead of me being able to hear a distinct tick for each K. Of course, loading up a 286 with 12megs of those individual 256Kx1 DIP chips was horrendously expensive and used up three of the ISA expansion slots. What was funny was I didn't have all the RAM the same speed and the memory test sounded like it was shifting gears as it went from the faster RAM to the slower chips. (I configured the 60ns stuff as conventional and XMS and the 70ns as hardware EMS so the 70ns wouldn't slow down the faster RAM.) If you take a IIci and install 70ns SIMMs in one bank and 60ns in the other, it will all run at 70ns. The same goes for PCs, except for the olden days of memory cards on the ISA bus. As computers got faster, the slight speed difference from using faster RAM became imperceptible to the user, and only a benchmarking program could tell the difference, which in normal operation doesn't amount to a hill of beans. :) The memory timing cycles are so tight now that even a couple of nanoseconds too slow will cause trouble, which is why it pays to buy name brand RAM like PNY, Micron etc. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I AM A FUCKNUT!
--- Andrew W. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just finished installing everything on this new 30gig hard disk, when I looked at the size of an extension I was emailing to someone and found it was 448k for 7,967 bytes used. Obviously, this didn't seem right, so I got info on the hard disk. Guess who formatted a 30GB hard disk in MacOS Standard Format LOL! HFS can really stretch those 65,536 clusters. :) (At least Microsoft sensibly put a 2gig limit on FAT16 so nobody would end up with 448K clusters.) HFS+ and FAT32 don't have the 65,536 block/cluster limit. ;-) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Block/Cluster size. Re: I AM A FUCKNUT!
--- Andrew W. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Andrew W. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just finished installing everything on this new 30gig hard disk, when I looked at the size of an extension I was emailing to someone and found it was 448k for 7,967 bytes used. Obviously, this didn't seem right, so I got info on the hard disk. Guess who formatted a 30GB hard disk in MacOS Standard Format LOL! HFS can really stretch those 65,536 clusters. :) (At least Microsoft sensibly put a 2gig limit on FAT16 so nobody would end up with 448K clusters.) HFS+ and FAT32 don't have the 65,536 block/cluster limit. ;-) FAT32 still has a limit though. A 10gig partition will have smaller blocks than a 30gig. Not so with HFS+. Everything over 2gig (iirc - could be 0.5gig) has 4k. Presumably FAT32 has 2^32 clusters? http://www.macworld.com/1998/04/secrets/4241.html (They're wrong about floppies having 65,536 blocks.) http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n24372 http://www.healthtology.com/computerguys/FAQS/clustersize.htm Up to 4.92 billion blocks on an HFS+ formatted disk. Still don't know the maximum number for FAT32. Looks like when Apple decided to fix the limitations of HFS, they looked way into the future. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IPNetSentry: no 68k version :(
--- MC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if a significant amount of fellow 68k users clearly tells them that they're interested in a firewall solution for their 68k Macs, maybe they'll reconsider their position... Whats the correct email address to send a query? There is NO direct email address... But a form on their website: http://www.sustworks.com/site/sup_problemform.html Shouldn't we agree on a common demand before ? Maybe Dan would accept to post an article on LEM to gather a good ammount of people ;) And while Dan is doing that, how about a petition to Jump Development for a new version of RAM Charger? :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Where to get Ram
--- R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought four 16 mg 30 pin simms from Macsolutions.com about two years ago and they are functioning perfectly in my Quadra 700. They were inexpensive for the date, too. I think I paid $17.95 a stick. They got them to me one day earlier than promised as well. I have no affiliation with them, and that has been my only purchase from them. I bought four 16meg ones off eBay a couple years ago from a guy who had them in the musical instruments category or somesuch. Was pitching them for use in a synthesizer. He had 8 but I only got 4 because I only had a IIsi at the time. Doh! After I got my IIci I was wishing I'd bought them all for the cheap price. :P (I even told the guy he'd get a better price out of the others in the Macintosh category.) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Outlook/Windows users on this list?
--- Michael J. Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thare are about a half dozen people out there who's computers have the latest Outlook/Outlook Express virus and I keep getting junk attachments from them. What are they ? .exe files ? The virus grabs a random file off the infected computer then mails it out as an attachment and I think it includes a copy of the virus so when you try to open the attachment (in Outlook of course) you're infected. (Now if the virus kiddies would get smarter and figure out how to package along a nasty AppleScript instead of a Visual Basic Script...) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Outlook/Windows users on this list?
That is the one. :P --- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thare are about a half dozen people out there who's computers have the latest Outlook/Outlook Express virus and I keep getting junk attachments from them. What are they ? .exe files ? I'm wondering if they got hit by W32.Sircam since I'm getting a lot of them as well. Is it something like, ** Hi. How are you? I send you this file in order to have your advice. [this line varies] See you later. Thanks ** It can also say this in Spanish, and there is a viral payload attached. If so, watch out. See http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Symantec grades this as a severity 4 (5 = highest) security threat. It is also annotated on the CERT.org site. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Virus proof. Re: Outlook/Windows users on this list?
--- Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My estimation is that yes, it's a very bad infection this time. I've received about a dozen copies of it in the past couple days. Fortunately I drive a Mac... That's why I use Yahoo mail for mailing lists. Ain't gonna get no viri that way. For my normal mail I use Netscape. No version of Outlook on any of my PC boxes, no Windows Scripting Host either. WSH was the MS answer to AppleScript, unfortunately the only people who use WSH are the virus creators. :P Is Outlook 5.0.2 for Mac AppleScriptable? If so I'll bet an enterprising cracker could do the same junk to Macs. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Outlook/Windows users on this list?
--- Steve Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 9:17 PM -0400 7/27/2001, Amber Rhea wrote: What was the statistic? Over 10,000 known Windows viruses and fewer than 10 for the Mac? Closer to truth is 15,000 for Windows/DOS and 700 for Mac. The chance of an effective worm for a Mac would be for it to be cross platform. Possible? Likely? I figure it should be possible for some enterprising little @$#%nut to infect PC Exchange or File Exchange with a double virus, one PC boot sector virus code and one to make Exchange write the PC virus to any PC floppy you use in the Mac. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Outlook/Windows users on this list?
--- Steve Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Closer to truth is 15,000 for Windows/DOS and 700 for Mac. The chance of an effective worm for a Mac would be for it to be cross platform. Possible? Likely? Any that would affect the Mac nowadays (OS X) would have to also affect Unix/Linux/BSD operating systems to be truly affective. Some a-hole actually went and wrote a cross platform Linux/Windows virus. It doesn't actually do anything nasty, just infects stuff. But of course someone will take the code and create something real bad based on it. :P = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: My Stash of Macs
My list is incredibly short and easy. One IIci with DayStar Turbo 601 and 80 megs RAM. One Radius 81/110 with a paltry 56 megs RAM. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
monitors Re:
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 15:21 -0400 on 05/08/01, gary srygler wrote: I have many Mac monitors. I want to connect one to a windoze box (Flame retardant suit on) Which one would work easiest and what adapters will I need? Please reply off list, I don't want to start another flame war. 100 Mac 12 in rbg displays few dozen 14 and 15 in Mac color displays Nokia microemission 17 in portrait 17 in Macintosh 21 in color display Good God. Get rid of the 12 inchers. They're awful monitors. Unless he wants to hack them all to do 640x480. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Small monitor gloat. ;)
--- Alex Allee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/01 9:50 PM, Gregg Eshelman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine too, works beautifully at 640X480. Freaks out at 512X384 won't centre right at 832X624. Design flaw? Yup, same monitor. Its the Apple Multiple Scan 14 Display model M4222. Anyone have one of these working right at 832x624? According to both AppleSpec and the Apple Online Museum, that monitor's max resolution is 800x600. Huh. Then why am I offered only 512x384, which it can't synch to, 640x480, which works, and 832x624, whiich it can synch to but is shifted down and to the right? BTW, holy crap, the TIL really is gone now. :( til.info.apple.com redirects to the Knowledge Base. Those (various expletives deleted) idiots. Not even Microsoft expects people to create an ID to sign in to dig through their support info. :P = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Small monitor gloat. ;)
--- Alex Allee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/01 11:55 PM, Gregg Eshelman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, same monitor. Its the Apple Multiple Scan 14 According to both AppleSpec and the Apple Online Museum, that monitor's max resolution is 800x600. Huh. Then why am I offered only 512x384, which it can't synch to, 640x480, which works, and 832x624, whiich it can synch to but is shifted down and to the right? Maybe the OS can't identify the monitor correctly, and is covering itself. (Like if you plug in a VGA monitor, it spews tons of resolutions at you) Are those three resolutions under Recommended or All? See if you can switch to All, 800x600 might be listed there. Then again, AppleSpec (how long till they ditch that?) lists two 800x600 modes, both as SVGA. The only Macintosh mode is 640x480... I installed the AppleVision software, which installed Control Strip and modules for the displays. That gives me only 640x480 and 832x624. Monitors Sound also shows 512x384 and only recommended, won't show All. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Drain Crawler
--- tesla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam: I have to wonder if perhaps you could generate those tones with your trusty touchtone phone? If it responds to DTMF tones there might be a DTMF tone generator program for Mac. There are several PC ones. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Searching the old TIL articles.
Articles prior to November 1997 can be searched without signing in by going here. http://karchive.info.apple.com/ I also sent them a feedback about how I dislike their new setup, especially the signing in bit. :P = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Small monitor gloat. ;)
--- Dana Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speakers worked but of course were cheezy (not talking KRK or JBL here!). Best regards, Dana They sound better than the mono built in speaker of most Macs. :) 'Course most of the all in one Performas had decent stereo speakers built in. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DTMF Re: Drain Crawler
--- Alex Allee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/7/01 1:42 AM, Adam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rotary phone (Geez, I'm 18 and I remember these) Don't worry about it, I'm 19 and *use* a rotary phone. Heh, I'm 30 and remember when there was ONE style of phone available, supplied by Ma Bell. They had about 3 colors to choose from. They were rented, not sold. Eventually, if you wanted, you could buy your own phones, but they still had the same old Ma Bell supplied innards. Finally the companies that wanted to make their own complete phones got the government to make the telcos allow equipment not supplied by them to be connected to the phone system. Of course that all happened in the 1970's before you were born. ;) When that change happened, magazines like Popular Science ran articles on all the neat custom phones you could now buy. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: monitors Re: Awful?!!?
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:35 -0700 on 07/08/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Good God. Get rid of the 12 inchers. They're awful monitors. 'SCUSE ME?!!?? There's NOTHING awful about those little gems. Their pictures are sharp and crisp, and there's nothing else that looks quite as tidy sitting on top of the older-style pizzabox than those little dudes... Hack them all to do 640x480! :) That's a lot more trouble than you might expect from the description on Cozy's site... Which is why I haven't tackled the upgrade on my 12 monitor yet. Someone brave needs to do it then make a website with a lot more details of the hack. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Bottom Suckers
--- dhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were on a party line in the 80's. Can you imagine how that would have affected an Internet connection. Its actually illegal to use a modem, FAX or similar device on a party line. The last party line in Idaho was done away with several years ago, early 90's at least. It was cheaper to run all new wire and install a computerized switch for about 12 phones than it was to pay one human operator. :) Later at the same town of Atlanta, their old wooden dam was leaking bad. It had filled up with so much silt over 100+ years that the water was only about 2 feet deep behind it. So what does the Army Corps of Engineers do? They pour a heavy concrete cap on top of the crumbling thing. About a week later *FWOOSH*! No more dam, no more bridge. Then the environazis tried to block the building of a new dam and generator but they were told to go @#%# themselves. Its all privately owned land there in spite of the nutters attempts to eliminate Atlanta. :) The second time around the ACoE built a completely new concrete dam like they should've done to start with. At least the residents were prepared to live without electricity and phones while the new dam was under construction because the old old generator wasn't the most reliable thing anymore. ;) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hello
--- Kevin Haryett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generally all you have to do is get a router for the cable modem (if you don't already have one) that is capable of doing DHCP or static IP masking. Make sure you have Open Transport on the IIsi and you're basically all set. Just thinking about this, I have no Router, but my win2k box can be converted to multi-homed and I can setup NAT on it, would that work? Or would I need to go a little deeper? Yeah, that works. Get an ethernet crossover cable for 10 Base-T or a bit of coax, two T connectors and terminators for 10 Base-2. Then if you have Win 98SE install Internet Connection Sharing. See www.annoyances.org and www.macwindows.com for more useful info. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Just not cricket...
http://www.bossmonster.com/e4/cricket/cricket.html Really, it isn't. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: GD-ROMs (Dreamcast) and the Mac
--- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a program that burns GD-ROMs (no, that's not a typo) on the Mac, like DiskJuggler does on the PC? I want to burn NetBSD/dreamcast onto a CD to play with it, but the bootable CD image is not iso9660. (For info on NetBSD/dreamcast, see http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/dreamcast/ .) Dunno about for Mac, but Nero Burning ROM for Win will write anything you want to a CD-R as raw data if you tell it it is an image file. :) You just need to make sure you know the block size and if its mode 1 or 2. Usually a size of 2048 and Mode 1 will do the trick. That works with Disc Copy images of a size that will fit onto a CD. :) Doesn't matter that the resource fork is gone, that is only for Disk Copy's use anyway. Apple coulda made Disk Copy a bit smarter so it could handle image files with missing resource forks. Would just lose the ability to have the CRC check against the CRC value stored in the resource fork. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Printer question
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that the mac printer port was a serial port. How did they do that? I hope not by also delivering a nubus parallel printer port card, because that wouldn't be much help on a Classic II. Well there were the Hurdler and Hurdler II parallel port NuBus cards. The outfit that made them is still around, their URL was posted here a while back. They appear to still have some old stock of their NuBus stuff. Unfortunately they still want early 1990's prices, OUCH! Probably no System 7+ support either. Certainly not for late 90's to current printers. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: About Mac Linux (Debian 2.2)
--- Etienne Le Sueur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to put debian on mac LC 2 I've got penguin 19, and it boots ok, but the kernel panics, and says VFS: unable to mount root fs on 00:00 I'm not sure what to do.. Any ideas on what the problem is? Did you solder in an FPU socket then install an FPU? Or are you trying to compile it with the FPU emulation? (In which case you win a prize for Best self torture with an old Mac.) ;-) Heck, you win it just for trying to install Linux on an LC 2. P.S. Why does everyone say linux with a short i sound when Linus Torvalds says lee-nucks? It also goes against common rules of English which says it should be a long i sound. Nobody calls Unix oonix. ;) Its you-nicks. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: GD-ROMs (Dreamcast) and the Mac
--- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a program that burns GD-ROMs (no, that's not a typo) on the Mac, like DiskJuggler does on the PC? I want to burn NetBSD/dreamcast onto a CD to play with it, but the bootable CD image is not iso9660. (For info on NetBSD/dreamcast, see http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/dreamcast/ .) Dunno about for Mac, but Nero Burning ROM for Win That's the problem -- I don't own a Windows system. Closest I come is two DOS boxes I use for RD and old DOS games. OK, how about Linux on a Mac? There is a set of CD-R apps that have been ported to lots of platforms. They're command line only. Look up CDRECORD. I had to use them in a DOS box under Win95 (they're win32 command line apps) to create a custom, bootable, Win2K .iso image file. The actual recording bombed out partway through but I didn't care cuz I just needed the image file. I've heard of people burning a CD from within Basilisk II using Toast on a PC but I haven't heard of anyone burning a CD from Win9x running on SoftPC or VirtualPC. Might give that a try. :) (IIRC, both those emulators will run Linux.) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: just curious...
--- Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, When I was doing my usual thrift-store rounds, I happened to come across an Apple Adjustible Keyboard, still in box; just not shrinkwrapped. Of course, I snapped it up; it was only $5. I was wondering what it's original value might have been; according to the packing list, it's complete, and I tested it on my IIcx - it worked! It has these funny keycaps on the D and K keys. Does anyone know what these were (are)? Pickle? Did you also get the numeric keypad that can be used on either side of the main keyboard? The bumps on the D and K are touch typing aids that for some reason Apple chose to place on D and K instead of the (by then) industry standard F and J keys. You'll want to avoid excessively moving the keyboard halves, see the Road Apples page on LEM. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HP Deskwiter 600 Color Kit
Yup, just swap out the black for color, but then it has to mix all three colors for black and dark parts of color pictures. http://www.noet.at/sss/hp/77.htm http://www.hp.com/cposupport/printers/support_doc/bpd02585.html The cartridges you want have the blue tops. (Green tops are for the 500 series). You'll also want to get the humidor cartridge storage case for whichever one you don't have in the printer. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Famous PC parts company does a funny. :)
--- Sam Burrish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my coworkers is building a PC with an ASUS A7A266 motherboard. Visible as part of the box art is a corner of that PowerMac that had the floppy drive on the left side! You mean the 4400? It's mostly hidden behind the picture of the motherboard. LOL. I'll try and get a scan of it later. :) Please do! OK, here's a picture I took with a camera. Didn't have a flatbed scanner handy. Its a bit hard to see since they tinted it blue but that is definately the same floppy slot as on the Beige G3 at work. :) http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~gregg/pcmac.jpg = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 6800, was Re: OT: Famous PC parts company does a funny. :)
--- Robert Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did 6800's exist btw? I do tech support for state schools, and some have referred to them often enough for me to wonder if some special educational version existed, however they've all been replaced and seem to only exist in memory now - been meaning to ask that, and thought you, pickle, may have an idea there if anyone would :D 6800, 6801, 6802 and 6809 DID exist. I built a kit computer (SWTP) in the late 70;s that used 6800 and later the 6809. It came out around the time the Apple I was released. When I sold it, it had over 700K of ram. The 6800 family was made by Motorola. We (Engineering Measurements Co.) sold thousands of traffic controllers using them. Clock speed was in the range of 1 to 2 Mhz. Did they run software from Traf-O-Data? :) (Traf-O-Data 2000 Professional is a pretty good OS. ;-) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Where can I find a FTP program for the Mac II and a power PC I need both?
--- astrobuoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can also ftp from your browser by entering ftp://; instead of http://;. but Fetch is great. Also, Cyberdog is dirt free and it ftps just fine... all the best Unfortunately, IE and Netscape for Mac don't handle FTP _uploading_ well. :( To login to an FTP with a username and password enter ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The windows versions do OK, just drag files into the browser window after logging in and they ask if you want to upload or copy. IE even lets you delete/rename/move files and folders. Netscape only uploads/downloads. I tried that with IE5 Mac today and instead of uploading the image file it just displayed it. :P I'd have to check to make sure but I don't think Netscape Mac will do that either. One caution with IE Win, it remembers the whole FTP URL with the username and password in plaintext. Netscape on both and IE on Mac remove the password from their autocomplete history. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 64MB SIMMs
--- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the max RAM for a Performa 6214CD (such a well-known model, I know...) 64MB, orcan it take 128MB? Thought with the cost of 64MB 70-pin SIMMs, I suppose it would hardly be worth it... It is not worth it. Throw into street now, or give it to your worst enemy as a truce present. Horrid, horrid machines. We have several sitting in the bunker here (the old computer graveyard) and no one liked them when they were new, much less now. They do break down nicely, though, like in trash compactors and steam presses. Good stress relievers. Apple took all the worst bits from their design bin to make the 62xx series, with the exception of the 6360. Just read the Road Apple page on them. I think they deserve a dishonorable mention un-award. ;) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Enhanced LC PDS expansion cards
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:02 +0800 on 16/08/01, Andrew W. Hill wrote: I think it was mostly for accelerators and video cards. ...and I don't know of a single accelerator that used 'em. All the accelerators I know of for the LC-class Macs were compatible with all of 'em, so they couldn't have used the extra pins. I haven't seen a video card that did either, but info on LC video cards is a bit sparse. What about those MediaVision PAS-16 sound cards for the LC slot? National Instruments boards for the LC slot? It's the obscure stuff that might have needed it.. The MacCon LC NIC in the Performa 550 I don't have anymore had _holes_ for the extended PDS connector and some other missing bits. Dunno what kind of extra features it would've had if those parts were installed. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: (solution!) GD-ROMs (Dreamcast) and the Mac
--- Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno about for Mac, but Nero Burning ROM for Win That's the problem -- I don't own a Windows system. Closest I come is two DOS boxes I use for RD and old DOS games. Don't worry about that! Nero exists for MacOS! =2))) Just search for it with Google.com Yes, Nero MAX for Mac. Unfortunately, compared to Nero Burning ROM, MAX is quite braindead when it comes to handling non-MAX created CD images. :P It won't even touch an image from the Windows version or even standard .iso ones. However if you can mount the non-MAX image with some other app then MAX will happily burn it after you drag the mounted image onto MAX. So I doubt there's currently any way to use Nero MAX or Toast to burn GD-ROM images on a Mac. MAX and Toast may be able to do a direct drive to drive copy of them though. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Famous PC parts company does a funny. :)
--- Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Allee wrote: on 8/16/01 12:53 AM, Luc Verhelst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, here's a picture I took with a camera. Didn't have a flatbed scanner handy. Its a bit hard to see since they tinted it blue but that is definately the same floppy slot as on the Beige G3 at work. :) http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~gregg/pcmac.jpg The button on the monitor is on the left too. I bet the foto was mirrored... My first thought when I saw the picture was Looks like a 7100 to me. The photo being mirrored would explain this. :) 4400's have the words PowerPC just to the left of the floppy slot as well as ventilation holes below the leading edge of the machine on the front. I doubt this pic is one of a 4400. The artist who did the box design would have airbrushed out any identifying marks. Trying to pass off an image of a Mac on a PC motherboard box is ballsy enough without them thinking people wouldn't notice PowerPC on it, even backwards. ;-) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Famous PC parts has a 6100
--- William Ahearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys If you have Photoshop or Graphic Converter, download the jpeg and flop it. I just did. It's a 6100. Definitely. LOL! A 6100 is even worse. ;-) Gonna stuff a 1.2Ghz Athlon in a 6100 from the mirror universe, eh? = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Photoshop 2.5 to 2.5.1
--- Gene Osburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Don't have a specific answer for you on that. But it seems to me thatmost .1 updates tend to address stability issues, rather than any significant feature enhancements. I routinely apply .1 updates to any software I have installed, SOP. I have the updater, 1.1 MB file on diskette - I can make a copy and send it to you for the cost of postage (If you wanna add an extra $ or two, cool). How about e-mailing to pickle or someone so that it will be available to lots of people? :) Adobe has nothing for versions of PhotoShop prior to 4.0. :P = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Photoshop 2.5 to 2.5.1
--- William Ahearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - BTW, 2.5.1 was the 1st Pshop to be PPC-native (via a plug-in), if you're using a PPC, it's at: ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/systems/mac/info-mac/gst/grf/pshp/photoshop-ppc-plugin.hqx But delete the or you ain't going anywhere. Yahoo Mail and some other webmail and normal mail apps are a bit funky on their auto hyperlinking. For some reason they'll assume a trailing or ? or other character is part of the URL on ftp ones, but not http ones. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: linux m68k
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 23:44 -0600 on 16/08/01, Steve Conrad wrote: Ok, I've had enough and now I have to add my $.11. Why are you bothering with Linux? NetBSD is the one to go with on 68k Macs. I've put it on my IIci and Q800 and both run flawlessly. Why go with linux? NetBSD is a mature UNIX for 68k Macs. The only drawback to it is the non-support for the oddball machines, IIvx and Q950, and non-FPU Quadra/Centris/LC machines. For further reference try here: http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/ Randy OS X - UNIX for the rest of us NetBSD - I got it up and running! Or be a true 100% Apple supporter and go with A/UX *Ducks* Rather ironic, I must say, that the only way to get A/UX off the 'net requires a peecee to burn the necessary install CD... Oh, I dunno about that. I snagged A/UX off that german site posted here a while back, they're Toast images. I have them archived on a CD-R. ::shuffles through 104 CD case:: Nope, left that one at home. I should bring it to work and burn them with Toast 5.0.1. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 7.6.1
--- Steve Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody have a copy of 7.6.1 for an LCIII? I'm using 7.1, but want to move up to a version that has OT so that I can network it with a newer Mac. You don't need 7.6.1 for that. :) Hit this, http://devworld.apple.com/sdk Get the Drag Manager, Thread Manager and CFM 68k. Then get Open Transport 1.1.1 and install it then get Open Transport 1.1.2 and install it. I don't know why Apple says to install 1.1.1 then 1.1.2 instead of just installing 1.1.2. Open Transport will disable MacTCP and make the Network control panel invisible. OT uses the AppleTalk and TCP/IP control panels. To make it work on an Ethernet LAN you need to set both of those control panels to connect via Ethernet. If you have TCP/IP setup manually and boot up without another computer (even a PC!) active to talk to, it usually switches AppleTalk back to the Printer port. :P Gets annoying when I forget and boot the Mac before the PC. At least I can switch it to Ethernet and don't have to reboot. But it would be nicer if (like Windows) it wouldn't just decide on its own that since there isn't _any_ activity on the ethernet port that it will help and switch AppleTalk to the printer port for me. :P (Is there any extention or control panel that will tell Mac OS to leave my network setings the $#^$#$ alone how _I_ set them?) If for some reason you want to switch to MacTCP there is a Network Software Selector control panel on the net somewhere. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Speaking of OS's
--- Steve Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a list of new features for each new release of Mac OS? If I wanted to know what version was first to have the clock on the menu bar or the first to have the menus stay open without holding the mouse, where would I look? Wasn't 7.5 the first with the menubar clock? Apple licensed a stripped down version of SuperClock! and around the same time also licensed a stripped down version of Extentions Manager. Mac OS 8.1 was the first with sticky menus. (But Windows had them before that.) P.S. The Basilisk II Mac emulator can give sticky menus to any version of System or Mac OS it runs. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 7.6.1
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use a dialup connection, download ot ppp too. Same directory. I saw some site (while digging up info on the 6200) that FreePPP is a much better performer on the internet than OT-PPP. Somehow FreePPP can operate the 6200's serial ports (and maybe other old Macs') at 56K speed when normally they top out at 19.2K or 9.6K for the 6200 series. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Blinking ? on disk
--- Alex Allee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/18/01 1:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did those HD hum and make seeking noises when turned on? If not, slap hard on sides of the Macs few times asap when turned on. If that trick did work and hear HD spin up and make seeks and boots fine, replace HDs. That's signs of dying HD and sticking heads to the platters is also worn HD. This is caused by poor cooling on those HD especially those that runs hot. Sounds like good advice, but this should be a last resort. Check everything software wise and all the connections before you resort to beating your Macs. :) If the drives aren't spinning at all, then try a game of Whack-a-Mole with them. Remove drive from Mac. Hold by edges firmly with thumb and fingers of one hand. Two firm whacks with the edge of your other palm, allowing the hand holding the drive to rotate at the wrist, will usually unstick the motor bearings. Plug drive back in and see if it spins up. This is a good basic physics demonstration on the principles of inertia. :) (Inertia tries to hold the platters still while the rest of the drive rotates around them.) Old dead hard drives (that will still spin) also work great for demonstrating the principles of gyroscopic forces. P.S. Do not hit the drive so firmly as to knock it out of your hand. That would be bad. ;-) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: My ISP
--- Steve Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interestingmy ISP says that unless you are running Eudora 5+ or running the latest and greatest there is no support for you as older stuff is simply not supported. Now I am on a IIci running 7.5.5, 32M RAM and I use Eudora Light 3.1.3, the last one that will run on an 030. My ISP says I should be using Outlook as they support all versions of it (funny, they must have a deal with M$). Also, I am leaing that Macs are not really supported at any ISP in this area as they ays assume I am on a PC and when I mention its a Mac they have to go find an employee that knows Macs. I work at a small ISP. I'm the daytime helpdesk person and the one and only Mac person there. (Well, there was another but he went of to college.) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Spectre Classic?
--- Erik Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a game I used to play back in the early '90's called Spectre Was a Battlezone/Tank style game, and I understand there were a couple of iterations - Spectre Supreme and Spectre VR. However, I'm trying to track down a copy of the original. I believe it was Shareware, because we had some unregistered versions. I've checked everywhere I can find on the 'net. Anyone know where I can find this gem? It was part of the extra goodies package with many of the Performas. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MP3 Player for LC III
Either MacLaunch (like most listservs) uses a FILO (First In - Last Out) buffer or e-mail travels faster than light so you see all the replies before ever seeing the original message. ;) P.S. If you do plug 36 megs into that LCIII and try playing an MP3 with SoundApp, you'd better have a tape recorder handy cuz I'll bet you won't want to try playing a second MP3 on it. ;) MP3 on a 68k Mac definately falls into the Do it just to prove it CAN do it! box. --- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:09 +0700 on 23/08/01, Suwartono wrote: I'm a new member here. Hmmm...I noticed. Does anyone know MP3 player for Apple LC III ? If you had read the FAQ first, you would know... :) The FAQ: http://macfaq.binhost.com/ = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ram for IIsi
--- David Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What type/size of memory chip do I need for a IIsi? Many thanks. dprice Four 30 pin SIMMs from 1 to 16 meg each. They must all be the same. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Old cars VS old Macs. Re: Musings
The difference with Ford, GM and MoPar is they are actively persuing owners of their classics with plenty of parts and services for the more popular models. You can go into any Ford dealer and order many parts for an old Mustang, even a complete engine. You can't call up Apple and order all the innards of an LCIII. (Unless you are the original owner of the Performa variant in California.) --- Dan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. Chrysler must feel the same way about MoPar Madness -- all those car junkies keeping those 1960s and early-70s cars running like new. Sure, Chrysler would benefit if they all bought a new Chrysler 300, but their mania certainly does nothing to diminish Chrysler's reputation. I'm sure there are plenty of other analogies -- Harley owners, tube electronics mavens, etc. Like the MoPar crew, it doesn't really matter to our passion for older Macs whether Apple loves us, hates us, or ignores us. At the very least, we advocate for the Mac -- new and used -- and do what we can to keep the installed base from shrinking. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Powerbook 190 issues
--- Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another customer's computer which is, well, full of problems. (Aren't they all?) I upgraded the RAM to 24MB (thanks to Dan Randall for sending me a 16MB card!) and it really flies. Or should I say, flew. I was downgrading it to system 7.5.2, and after it finished successfully installing the system, it didn't want to boot anymore. It just gives me the Sorry, a system error occurred bomb a few seconds after the happy Mac. Yup, go back to 7.5.5 after a nuke and pave on the drive. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Note to Yahoo users
--- Dan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Artie Johnson used to say, Very interesting -- but stupid. Some Yahoo users have noted problems posting to the lists. One member forwarded his email and asked why the problem. What I discovered was quite interesting. This person's email address was of the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- or so he thought. But his subscription to the list read [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- not quite the same, at least as far as the list server is concerned. I think yahoo has something where if you pay them money or allow them to spam you, you can get your mail via their POP server with a normal mail client. I use Yahoo Mail because of the 6 megs of space, more than I get from my ISP for mail. It's also immune to those stupid Outlook viruses. :) _I_ have to be stupid and download then try to run attachments that would infect my computer, which I'm not. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Syquest info?
--- Bob C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was given a SyQuest 5.25 external cartridge drive today, much to my surprise and delight, but I know very little about them. Is there a web-site dealing with these somewhere? When I connected it to my LCIII+ running System 7.1 and started up, I immediately saw LED-activity on the drive, and I was presented with a notice that the drive needed to be formatted, so I clicked OK and about a minute later, the drive appeared on my desktop. And I had thought I'd need to install a driver! :-) The drive seems to have been packaged by Mitac in a very sturdy little metal case, but it's a branded SyQuest 5.25 mechanism with the designation 200 MB C marked under the media door. Does this mean it can take 200MB cartridges? The drive came with only one 88MB cartridge. Are these (and other sizes) readily available? Any information on this baby will be appreciated! Thanks. Some part of SyQuest is still alive and kicking, in spite of Iomega trying to kill them off. Hit http://www.syqt.com for info. Best thing to do is open the case so you can get the model number of the drive. Some of the older 88meg drives cannot write to the 44meg disks. That was fixed in later versions. I think all the 5.25 drives other than the early 88's are fully backward compatable. (Could be the larger capacities won't write to the 44/88 disks.) Don't bother trying the SyQuest software. It looks like it would be nice, if it actually worked instead of causing crashes. Just use whatever formatter you used on your hard drive(s). Most non-Apple hard disk drivers will also support removable drives so you don't need an extention loading at boot. That comes in handy should you need something off the removable when you have booted with extentions off. :) Otherwise you can just pop a removable disk in the drive (even Zip disks) before the Happy Mac appears and it will load the driver off it for use with all disks in that drive for that session. You should format ALL of the disks you use in the SyQuest (or Magneto Optical etc.) with the same software. Some disk drivers have nasty crash causing conflicts with each other. Iomega's Zip and Jaz don't seem to conflict with anything so you can use the Iomega software on them OK. Personally, with the exception of my Zip 100 and floppies, I format everything with FWB 3.0.2 just to ensure there won't be any conflicts. (I tried FWB 4.something but it clashed horribly with 3.0.2.) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD burning on a Performa 466
--- Sean McGroty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to use my CD-RW on my Performa 466 with Toast 4.1, but the system crashes whenver I insert a CD. The Performa is running System 7.6.1 I'm thinking of using an earlier version of Toast, but I can't find anything before 4. Can someone point me in the right direction? Is there anything for CD-R/RW on Mac other than Toast or NeroMAX? NeroMAX is currently available only bundled with some CD-R/RW drives. It's an OK program but needs some more work, especially with handling CD image files other than its own format, which is not the same as Nero Burning ROM for Windows. I recently found out why NeroMAX is so different. Ahead either bought or licensed B's Recorder then revamped it. The only sites or info I can find on B's Recorder are all in Japanese or other asian languages. B's Recorder is/was available for Windows too. So other than those, anything? The ideal Mac CD-R/RW app should be able to directly mount ISO, Disk Copy, ShrinkWrap, NRG, WinImage, HFV, you name the disk image it should be able to mount it and fry it to a CD! Nero Burning ROM will take _any_ file and burn it as raw data, you just tell it a few specs and off it goes. It can even burn Disk Copy images, even bootable ones, and they work on a Mac. Heck it even burns straight from any HFS partition (small enough to fit) on a SCSI hard drive plugged into a PC. That is the versatility missing from all the Mac CD-R/RW apps! (Of course you can do silly things like burning a JPEG or a program file as an image. You'll get a useless disc but at least on that program the authors aren't making it dumb by trying to make it smarter than the users!) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Silverlining Lite SQ?
--- Bob C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. - As an aside, the only way I've found to currently format the cartridges is by using Lido 7.56, and then using OnTrack Software's Disk Manager Mac v. 2.25 to update the driver. Both Lido and the current version of SyQuest Utilities install a driver that causes my Mac Plus (System 6.0.5) to bomb quite dramatically with a dynamic and loud buzzing sound! :-O No surprise there! The SyQuest Utilities cause everything to bomb, even your TV, car and stove. ;-) There _may_ be one or two specific System versions that actually works with, as long as you don't install anything else. :P = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stuffit Expander
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:46 -0400 on 27/08/01, Receipts wrote: Stuffit Expander Does anyone know what the latest version of Stuffit Expander is that can be used with OS 7.1??? IIRC, it's 5.5. I thought 5.5 required 7.1P or 7.1.1? It will work fine on 7.1 if you install the Drag Manager setup. (Though it may take some extra work to get it to install, unless the latest version will install without complaining.) Anyway, since Apple has moved everything around, I don't know the direct URL to get to the SDK downloads. They're still on the FTP if you like to hunt for stuff. They just couldn't leave http://devworld.apple.com/sdk alone. :P = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Even more paper Macs! :)
These are the more current generations of Mac. http://www.theapplecollection.com/Collection/PaperMac/index.shtml = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stuffit Expander
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 19:26 -0700 on 27/08/01, Cameron Kaiser wrote: But I didn't do anything of the kind, though. It just worked. Although I have a lot of funky extensions on that system, so it wasn't exactly a clean 7.1 -- several stolen from 7.5.5, in fact -- maybe that's why. Betcha it's the Thread Manager and Drag Manager add-ins that fix things... I have too much other stuff to work on at the moment. Who wants to test this theory? It's probably Finder 7.1.3, which only System 7.1P, 7.1.1 and 7.1.1P _and_ 7.1 with the full Drag Manager package installed have. Stock 7.1 has Finder 7.1, which isn't scriptable. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Download .sit file via PC
--- Andrew Michael MacTao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gregg Eshelman wrote: No problem at all. .sit is a compressed archive like a .zip or .rar. If you have Stuffit Expander and PC Exchange (or Apple File Exchange or File Exchange) This is an interesting point... (pickle please excuse if this is already in the FAQ) What is the first Mac OS to come with PC exchange? and... What is the earliest version of Mac OS that PC exchange will work with? Prior to PC Exchange there was Apple File Exchange. After PC Exchange came File Exchange. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Deltis 230MO
--- Andrew W. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a 230MB Deltis Magneto-optical drive. I need a driver or soemthing to use it right? Where do I get this? PEace Aqua Grab this. http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~gregg/TutboMO.sit If you put a properly Mac formatted disk in the drive before booting the Mac, it should load the driver off the disk and use that driver for all disks used in that drive for that session. (Without needing TurboMO.) However, if you have MO (or Syquest or Bernoulli etc) didks formatted with a variety of drivers then you're just asking for a conflict and crash somewhere. (Iomega's Zip driver doesn't seem to conflict with anything, at least nothing I've encountered.) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stuffit Expander
--- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I didn't do anything of the kind, though. It just worked. Although I have a lot of funky extensions on that system, so it wasn't exactly a clean 7.1 -- several stolen from 7.5.5, in fact -- maybe that's why. Betcha it's the Thread Manager and Drag Manager add-ins that fix things... I have too much other stuff to work on at the moment. Who wants to test this theory? It's probably Finder 7.1.3, which only System 7.1P, 7.1.1 and 7.1.1P _and_ 7.1 with the full Drag Manager package installed have. Stock 7.1 has Finder 7.1, which isn't scriptable. No, it's just 7.1. I have the 7.1.3 update disk but never got off my lazy butt :-P You're certain of that? :) The current Drag Manager package's docs say it doesn't come with Finder 7.1.3, but then there is a folder with (surprise surprise) Finder 7.1.3 and a doc file saying that it is only for use with the ordinary 7.1 because all other versions of 7.1 and 7.1.1 have it already. Check your Finder version. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Is there a Mac Rehab facility out there??
--- Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/28/01 8:55 AM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sturdy too! And now, auto accessories: a gutted Perf 6200 case affixed to the under-dash of an '84 CHevy Cavalier makes for a great add-on glovebox! Dana Wow, that's about one of the best uses I have heard of for a 62xx! Last week, I (unfortunately) had to visit again with my current customer's Performa 6214CD. He had complained of Netscape being unbearably slow on it... I upgraded the RAM to 64MB and took him down to Netscape 3.0, but it didn't help *that* much... I then tried to explain to him, as gently and tactfully as I could, so as not to turn him off to Macs altogether, that the 62xx series were severely crippled in terms of, well, everything, and that he shouldn't rely on it too much for web surfing. (He has a beige G3 that's *his* computer; the Performa is his kid's; they also have an LCIII with 36MB, which actually seems faster than the Performa... go figure...) I know this is way off topic now! Sorry!! :O (And while we're off topic... This is from the LEM page about the Performa 6200... 32-bit memory - what exactly does this refer to? Everymac.com says is has a 64-bit bus but I had a hunch they were wrong... ?) Sure, it's 64bits, right out to the pins on the CPU. :P From there it splits into two 32bit busses. Could be that was one of the Macs I dinked with at Wal-Mart and saw how slow it was compared to the snazzy and fast Packard Bell (Packaged Hell) sitting next to it. Earlier than that, Wal-Mart had Macs like an LC-II next to a 486/25 running Windows 3.1 with 16bit color. Let's see, which would a newbie buy? A Mac that can only do 256 colors and is slow enough that the demo can be seen blitting the graphics to the screen or the PC showing a slideshow of TIFF images in brilliant thousands of colors and switching them fast enough that you can't see the screen redraw? (And the PC has double the RAM, standard.) Yup. Apple hurt their percived reputation with all those slower and limited models that were sold in places like Wal-Mart next to the Packaged Hells which were the pi$$-poor end of the PCs but certainly appeared faster. :P = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Portrait Display screenshot?
Would someone with an Apple Portrait Display be so kind as to get a fullscreen screenshot with plenty of stuff open? I need it in PICT, bitmap uncompressed TIFF or some non lossy format so when I size it to fit the paper version of the monitor it won't go all fuzzy. :) Gotta have that crisp computer look. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stuffit Expander
--- rlf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vintage Macs wrote... From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stuffit Expander Stock 7.1 has Finder 7.1, which isn't scriptable. If I'm using the 7.1.3 Finder and an app won't open but instead displays a message saying it can't run without a scriptable Finder, does that reflect a defect in the app in question or possibly something else? Got AppleScript installed too? = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Deltis 230MO
--- Andrew W. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Andrew W. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a 230MB Deltis Magneto-optical drive. I need a driver or soemthing to use it right? Where do I get this? PEace Aqua Grab this. http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~gregg/TutboMO.sit That should be TurboMO.sit right? Peace Aqua Yes. :P http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~gregg/TurboMO.sit = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: kill teh frames kill the frames!!
Frames?! You want frames?! HERE! http://www.zark.com/headscape/frames.html ;-) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Apple File Exchange was Re: Download .sit file via PC
--- Randy Beaudreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You get the Bill Gates award for misinformation there pickle. :) I have used Apple File Exchange to deal with PC disks on my IIcx. It actually deals with Apple ][ and PC disks. This is the version that comes with 7.1 btw and I don't have that machine handy to grab the version of Apple File Exchange on it. The version that shipped with System 6 didn't do a damn thing with PC disks, or didn't the couple times I tried it back in 8th or 9th grade on a Classic and SE... p As I stated, that was with System 7.1. System 6 Apple File Exchange I don't know about. We can split the difference. System 7.1 Apple File Exchange will read PC disks. System 6's AFE won't. Sure it won't read 1.4M PC disks in a SuperDrive? = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stupid email trick warning.
--- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I got an email from one Steven Pinette entitles Dialog letter june. The text of this letter reads: Hi! How are you? I send you this file in order to have your advice See you later. Thanks This is SirCam. Symantic's SARC has a rather nice explanation of it. A friend of mine was hit by it recently. Macs have nothing to fear. Except for having your inbox clogged with people's private files, each with a copy of the virus attached. :P Some of these are apparently even working on Outlook Express for Mac now. Won't bother your apps etc but can forward themselves to everyone in your address book or inbox etc. Microsoft. Helping computer viruses go cross platform since 2001. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: kill teh frames kill the frames!!
--- Dan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the pickle writes: frames should be outlawed!!! For once, Jag and I agree. Frames suck. I can't think of a single instance where a table-based layout doesn't work just as well and is more broadly supported. The FAQ will NEVER use frames. Ditto for Low End Mac. ;-) Aw, how about putting up a news item saying so and use http://www.zark.com/headscape/frames.html as an example of why not? :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Auto inject?
--- Steve Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm always seeing eBay auctions for an auto inject floppy. Is this a typo, or does such as animal exist? Does the seller mean auto eject. Nope. All Mac floppy drives are auto eject, so no need to say so. The older Auto Inject drives snap the disk into the drive after you have it shoved in about 2/3 of the way. The later Manual Inject drives require the user to push the disk completely into the drive until it is fully seated and locked. Macs with a big dimple in the middle of the floppy slot use manual inject drives. Macs with a plain slot use auto inject. Manual inject drives also have a feeble attempt at a dust flap that doesn't do a @#%#%@ worth of good at keeping out dust. But they also _don't_ have the dust shield plastic cover of the auto inject drives that does nothing but ensure that anything sucked through the slot stays inside the drive. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stupid email trick warning.
--- Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised you haven't gotten it sooner or at least HEARD of it before now. It's the Sircam virus that everybody's been whining about. I have gotten it about four times. And I just sit back and feel very smug and superior, since I use a Mac and am therefore immune. Ha! I use Yahoo Mail and don't have to worry about any viri because they have it fixed so no attachment can do anything unless the user is dumb enough to download it and run AND bypass their virus scanning. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stupid email trick warning.
--- Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/29/01 5:38 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft. Helping computer viruses go cross platform since 2001. Mind if I quote you on that one, Gregg? ;) Go ahead, have fun with it. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Best web-mail for Mac, was RE: Stupid email trick warning.
--- Flicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Visto, ZDNetOneBox and Yahoo all used to give you web space. Big move away from that for some reason. They discovered that there's no money in providing a free service for thousands of people to suck up bandwidth, even paid for by advertising that nobody clicks on. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: What is Versa Term?
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 22:10 -0400 on 29/08/01, Tracy Keirns wrote: I found a box, unopened, of Versa Term software. Includes disks, manuals, etc. What uses are there for a terminal emulator? I seem to be kind of You can hook two Macs together through their serial ports with it (and a cable); you can use a Mac as a *nix console; you can control various bits of hardware with serial configuration modes (like routers and such). Lotsa uses, most of them esoteric and archaic but still uses. You can telnet into a DSL router via serial cable to adjust settings or telnet into a Win2K box that has the telnet server running and have a bunch of fun. Of course, for once, M$ wasn't being dumb. The telnet server is _not_ turned on by default. Lots of things you can do with telnet. Download your e-mail, read usenet groups, play MUDs, MOOs and MUSHes. Some people have even revived the old style BBSes with telnet access instead of a bunch of dialup lines. Before the WWW there was Telnet! Wasn't Compuserve originally a telnet based service? Also check out Better Telnet, it's a free app. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: What is Versa Term?
Ohyeah, you can also use it to access your companie's IBM AS/400 mainframe to access their customer database... (Yup, we have an AS/400 where I work. For some reason most of us there really don't like working with it too well. We're getting a new GUI interface to replace the old terminal emulation software. Of course its most likely Windows only. I use the one and only Mac (Beige G3 Desktop) in the whole place.) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: My first paper Mac. :)
--- Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: My first paper Mac. :) http://home.rmci.net/gregg1/paper2ci1.jpg http://home.rmci.net/gregg1/paper2ci2.jpg I used the poster mode of the Xerox DocuPrint M750 to print each page over four 8.5x11 sheets of heavy card stock. Came out to what looks like 1/4 scale. The only bigger option I have is a nine sheet poster. Probably still won't be full size. It would be kind of neat to print out something like the Color Classic from here http://www.zdnet.co.jp/magazine/macuser/craft.html then glue it onto real heavy cardboard or even thin plywood and install the innards of a real Color Classic. :) Yup, I built the whole thing myself! Now if only used HP DesignJet printer/plotters weren't so dang expensive... Good one, Greg! This begs to be reshot, made clearer, so we can have yet another site for new uses of old Macs. Actually I printed it from a PC. ;) What it needs is for someone with access to a really W I D E printer to make up a batch at full size. :) That is about as good as a Vivitar Vivicam 2700 gets. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: manuals
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 22:54 -0700 on 29/08/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Sorta like the Apple Recovery Archive on apple's FTP with all the empty directories. If you know the exact name of what you're after and know the path, you could get all kinds of goodies. ...which makes it totally worthless without a list of files... You are correct sir! :( = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
