[Blackbelly] Possible eye infection--running from scent glands on ewe

2008-12-01 Thread Michael Smith
to admin: I read your response to my orgiinal post request. there were no photos or attachments. only a URL to a website that shows photos that is not associated with this listserv. If that is OK, then hopefully you can post my message. I believe the gist of the message will be lost trying to de

Re: [Blackbelly] New to Sheep

2009-01-11 Thread Michael Smith
Julia Hale said: > There are only 2 real down sides to the breed-their small size, and their > flighty temperament. The second can be ameliorated somewhat, but only the > bottle babies have any chance of being docile like a Suffolk or Dorper. > regarding bottle-fed American Blackbellies My

[Blackbelly] milking?

2009-02-16 Thread Michael Smith
trying to milk my American blackbelly ewe with 2-day olds, and having no luck. One lamb is very small, and we are thinking, needs supplemental feeding. I'm new to sheep, but got to practice on a goat with smallish udders yesterday and had plenty of luck milking her. My Ewes udders are no bigger o

Re: [Blackbelly] Milking

2009-02-18 Thread Michael Smith
Thanks to everyone for their thoughtful responses. Yesterday I found BamBam, they boy, had a temperature 2 degrees lower than the rest of the lambs. Being new to shepherding, I made an appointment with the vet this morning and brought him in. His temp was back up to normal but he was still resting

Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 5, Issue 27

2009-02-19 Thread Michael Smith
> > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:09:41 GMT > From: "j...@netzero.net" > Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Milking > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Message-ID: <20090218.160941.2507...@webmail16.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > > Michael, > Yes, ple

[Blackbelly] Udderly EZ Milker device?

2009-02-19 Thread Michael Smith
I decided to do a search, took me two seconds to come up with... http://www.udderlyezllc.com/ anyone try this? (pretty expensive) Seriously, I was looking at the problem, and thinking, I could make something like this, since I have a hand-held vacuum pump for automotive use, and need a way

[Blackbelly] Simplest Milker, ever

2009-02-19 Thread Michael Smith
http://www.tvsp.org/sheep_milker.html I thought about this as well. Talk about cheap, quick, replaceable and easy. Imagine being able to get colostrum during that crucial time, and it actually not being a chore talked to the local goat expert vet and she was incredulous it would even work.

Re: [Blackbelly] The Birth of American Blackbelly Twins

2009-02-23 Thread Michael Smith
regarding: >> Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:26:12 -0800 From: Rick Krach Subject: [Blackbelly] The Birth of American Blackbelly Twins To: blackbelly Blackbelly List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" A year-old ewe of mine, born in February last year, had l

Re: [Blackbelly] Fencing

2009-02-26 Thread Michael Smith
Re: fencing: we have all ABs, 2 intact rams (yearlings) in a next-door pasture, and 4 ewes and 3 pygmy goats. We bought our ranch already equipped with a combo of T-post (not much) some steel corral panel fencing and all gates, and redwood planks and redwood posts. All is about 48" tall, with 2x4"

[Blackbelly] Underdeveloped twin, please help

2009-02-28 Thread Michael Smith
Had a ewe with one of her twins half the weight of the other. At 2 weeks, he's 4.5lbs and she is 8lbs. His name is Bam Bam. here he is on his birthday, you can see the size difference: http://picasaweb.google.com/mwsmotorsports/February_LambS213091011AM#5302876349358364882 Noticed after a few da

Re: [Blackbelly] Underdeveloped twin, (He WAS constipated)

2009-03-03 Thread Michael Smith
So, Mark was right--in that Bam Bam was seriously constipated, and I thanked him profusely already. Mark, you should post your very detailed email instructions you gave to me, on this forum, they were great! Just wanted to share the highlights: Bam bam was born Feb 12th and has never been energet

Re: [Blackbelly] Underdeveloped twin, (He WAS constipated)

2009-03-03 Thread Michael Smith
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:55:08 -0600 From: Cecil Bearden Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Underdeveloped twin, (He WAS constipated) To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: <49ada73c.6040...@copper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Michael: D

[Blackbelly] Bam Bam's living situation

2009-03-04 Thread Michael Smith
Regarding: >>> Message: 6 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:19:44 -0600 From: Cecil Bearden Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Underdeveloped twin, (He WAS constipated) To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: <49ae63d0.40...@copper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mic

[Blackbelly] Bam Bam's new digs

2009-03-06 Thread Michael Smith
Bam Bam only had two days of nomal bowel movements after getting the enema. Now he has diahrrea, and we are keeping a close monitor on him, giving him Probios and mixing Colustrum replacer that simply has acidophilus in it, in with his feed. At night I usually give him some sub-Q dextrose, since

[Blackbelly] Bam Bam's progress and healthy Lamb's First Outing

2009-03-08 Thread Michael Smith
The Lambs have been in a 10'x20' horse stall all their life. This weekend I let them out for the first time ever, and you can see how the bottle-feeding pays off: http://web.me.com/mwsmith100/Site_2/LambsFirstOuting.html there's a coupla movies, be sure to check them out. BTW: they and the goats

Re: [Blackbelly] Bottle-Baby as New Mother

2009-03-10 Thread Michael Smith
>>>Message: 2 Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:20:43 -0400 From: "Bonnie Chandler" Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Bottle-Baby as New Mother To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I have sometimes had to encourage new goat or sheep mothers to

[Blackbelly] Scours and new grass!!

2009-03-11 Thread Michael Smith
regarding: >> Message: 3 I had a bottle lamb a few years back that scoured for the first 45 days of her life. I tried everything under the sun except guava but I would have tried that too if I had known about it. Nothing worked. I found a product online and thought what the heck I'll give it a try.

[Blackbelly] Coccidiosis or E.Coli as a cause of scours.

2009-03-16 Thread Michael Smith
I'm new to this mailing list, but am curious why we don't mention Coccidia or E. Coli as a possible source of scours, more often? Especially, since, if there's an outbreak of coccidia in the lamb flock, the indications I find on the web usually say that pretty much all the scouring lambs likely hav

[Blackbelly] Hard Poops

2009-03-20 Thread Michael Smith
Mark, you should write a manual on how to raise lambs. And for the rest of you, this mailing list is invaluable thanks to everyone on it and for all your help. Hope things are going well with your new arrivals. Last night, I followed your advice about all the cravings the lambs were having that I

[Blackbelly] Bam Bam back on the Critical list

2009-03-22 Thread Michael Smith
Had Bam Bam up to 102 temp, and at 5 lbs (5 weeks old) he could do 13oz a day. Diarrhea was gone, He was making pellets no problem. now: 1] no appetite for 3 days now. temp and energy going down. force-feeding yields maybe 5oz a day. 2] constantly burping and chewing--but what? He's eaten no alf

[Blackbelly] Bam Bam's diet.

2009-03-22 Thread Michael Smith
>>>Message: 6 Could you share with us exactly what and how much solid food you are feeding Bam- Bam daily? Also how much time on fresh grass you have him on would be helpful. Dayna Denmark Half Ass Acres Bam Bam has been on formula of 1/2 Sava Lamb and 1/2 pasteurized goat's milk from the

[Blackbelly] Bam Bam Unplugged II, the Sequel

2009-03-23 Thread Michael Smith
three days of enemas with a good 10-15cc oil in each one and finally, Bam Bam became unplugged and had several blotches of runny poop last night and this morning. That is troublesome when you consider, he'd really not had milk for 1.5 days in any capacity, and no food yesterday at all (just tubed

[Blackbelly] Rest In Peace, Bam Bam

2009-03-23 Thread Michael Smith
we pregnant, so wish me luck. Michael Smith, Perino Ranch Blackbellies. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

Re: [Blackbelly] Rest In Peace, Bam Bam

2009-03-24 Thread Michael Smith
>>> Message: 4 Michael: I have 85 ewes due to start lambing April 5. I can only offer a few words of advice for your next lambing. Leave the lamb on MAMA as long as possible. If she kicks the lamb off for a good reason (no milk) then let her raise them and supplement with a bottle. Humans canno

Re: [Blackbelly] Question about noisy lamb

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Smith
>> What can I do to settle him? Should he have more sheep companions? Is this something that will pass? >> time will help. When we first got our two bottle-fed weathered Pygmy goats, it was their first time away from home and they screamed like crazy for about a week before they settled down som

Re: [Blackbelly] sick lamb

2009-04-06 Thread Michael Smith
> > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:39:25 -0500 > From: "Nancy & Tom Richardson" > Subject: [Blackbelly] sick lamb > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >        reply-type=original > > Hello, I know my jacobs are different but I have a questi

[Blackbelly] Bottle-feeding update and new ram lamb

2009-05-06 Thread Michael Smith
meet Ziggy, the late-arriving ram-lamb. This arrival date means his mother was bred here on my ranch, rather than by one of her relatives on the ranch we got his mother from. http://picasaweb.google.com/mwsmotorsports/Ziggy_Ram_Lamb54091006PM# 10 lbs. Same size as my largest ewe lamb from Februar

Re: [Blackbelly] Little info needed

2009-06-17 Thread Michael Smith
Curtis. I'd make sure they have some shadeThey can overheat and end up panting and seeking shade, but otherwise, do fine. _Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies (in Northern California, where it's hot and dry, most of the time) ___ This message is from

[Blackbelly] Rams: Horn in the eye?

2009-06-22 Thread Michael Smith
I have two intact American Blackbelly rams, Marley and Verne, who are great buddies, both a bit older than yearling. One day Verne's eyes look fine, the next, one is cloudy, has a puffy eyelid and obviously in pain. Vet comes, dyes the eye, we see deep scratches from one side to the other on his s

Re: [Blackbelly] Do Sheep Grieve?

2009-06-23 Thread Michael Smith
Message: 1 > Does anyone know if sheep in this circumstance will choose a new "leader" or should I think about replacing the lost flock member? Thoughts on how an outsider would be accepted/rejected by an existing small flock? Thanks for any input, Georgette A Placerville, CA I have

Re: [Blackbelly] Update on bottle lamb

2009-08-04 Thread Michael Smith
I use a combo of Mark Wintermutes' "Cold turkey" and his weight requirements (8 weeks and at least 25 lbs) and tapering, but I taper by cutting out say, the afternoon meal first, then the nightly, and then the morning meal. I don't dilute, but their last bottle will go down from 16 oz to 8 oz in th

Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 5, Issue 123

2009-08-29 Thread Michael Smith
tion by parasites) and give nutrients to the ground the sheep cannot provide-- to then have better grass-- which then makes for more well-fed sheep, and healthier soil. -Michael Smith, Perino Ranch Blackbellies. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mai

Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 5, Issue 124

2009-08-30 Thread Michael Smith
regarding- Message: 2 In our area, we would have to have the chickens in a coop at all times due to the number of owls that feed on the chickens. Our chickens lasted 2 days each time we tried.. Cecil in OKla yeah, that is a good one to ponder, and great feedback--thanks. We have a hu

[Blackbelly] Breeding Bottle Baby Ewes

2009-10-20 Thread Michael Smith
Here's my latest effort at building up my currently, 10-member flock. The main gist, is the fact I am breeding my bottle-baby ewes, which are fairly tame, as opposed to their mothers, who are almost as wild as deer. These potential mothers are trained to come to barn at night, etc, and I am eager

[Blackbelly] Alfalfa

2009-10-25 Thread Michael Smith
I'm going to plant one of my fenced pens with alfalfa. In northern California, it should grow like mad thru the winter and be 18" tall by spring. I have a sickle mower and can harvest it, but was wondering what the group's experience with grazing sheep on live alfalfa, under controlled conditions.

Re: [Blackbelly] 1. graizng legumes (alfalfa)

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Smith
The grasses that grow wild here include some very tall oats. It can get to 5-6' tall by late summer. the alfalfa I plan to plant is this: http://www.hearneseed.com/product-info.php?Alfalfa__Ameristand_403T__domancy_4_-pid164.html I was intrigued by the fact it is bred for high traffic, so I thou

Re: [Blackbelly] rabbits

2009-11-03 Thread Michael Smith
Peter, my 3 bottle-fed ewes do the same thing with our Aussie that they came to know through the fence. I sent this out before, http://web.me.com/mwsmith100/Sheila/with_lambs.html#grid but they do the same thing with our dog, tail wagging and all. (similar to what ewes do in heat). It's one of

[Blackbelly] Broken leg

2009-11-16 Thread Michael Smith
I've had a pygmy goat with a broken rear leg. I did all the re-wraps and dressing. Did run into a scraped ulcer, under the wraps, twice. The only thing I was going to mention with the broken leg is 1] if she's not using the splint, definitely check to see if there's a problem with the application

Re: [Blackbelly] Sheep play and sounds

2009-11-20 Thread Michael Smith
Silence of the lambs: our girls (8 month old AM Blackbellys) are almost absolutely silent. I think I've only heard one bleat in the time we've had them. Is this normal? (Not complaining, we have neighbors with some kind of wool sheep and they are constantly bleating at this or that) How long do la

[Blackbelly] Maternal Crooning sound.

2009-11-21 Thread Michael Smith
>>My Soay are the same, but they make an additional noise that I have not heard >>in the Barbs. They make a gutteral crooning sound to their babies that is >>really sweet I find-like they are purring to them when they are concerned but >>not overly stressed. Maybe someone else can comment if t

[Blackbelly] Ram sounds

2009-11-21 Thread Michael Smith
I forgot to mention the rams, which have a completely different sound and two of my three intact rams are a bit noisy. Again: the noisy ones are bottle-fed. Marley has a super low voice and sounds like he's belching when he bleats for attention or a snack or a scratch on the head. His sound is mor

[Blackbelly] Pictures and a video: Young AB ram's progress

2009-11-28 Thread Michael Smith
http://web.me.com/mwsmith100/2009_bottle_lambs/Lucy_and_Ziggy.html Just sharing a few pictures of my three intact rams, with Ziggy, who was born in May, coming along nicely. Also, some hilarious movie footage of our little pygmy/alpine goat in heat (not being bred, just the sounds she makes). Thi

Re: [Blackbelly] Pictures and a video: Young AB ram's progress

2009-12-01 Thread Michael Smith
>> Very nice pictures! Especially the three boys with different horn lengths _Almost_ makes me want a ram here... A couple of times the goat sounds like shes talking! Peter & Kathy Wallace Thanks, Peter. I am excited to watch them grow up and always look forward to Winter, when their coats

Re: [Blackbelly] rams in pasture

2009-12-03 Thread Michael Smith
Rick, you're right about no one getting hurt, for sure. Your system would work well for me if I wanted lambs every year, and if I was raising them for meat, I totally agree. In that case I would only need one sire. I'm doing this more for the pasture grazing I need, and to raise a flock of a certa

[Blackbelly] Subject: "Line" breeding

2009-12-07 Thread Michael Smith
Interesting subject, especially using Mouflons to get horns in ABBs (which I have heard before). No one out here in California appears to have Mouflons. I'd love to buy some, if I could find them local. Here in California, the breeders I've been getting ABBs from tend to talk about "Painted Desert

Re: [Blackbelly] Autumn pictures

2009-12-09 Thread Michael Smith
>>So, if anyone else has more pictures of their places, add them to the list, >>too. ?Thanks, Rick Krach Auburn, CA 95602 >> Rich, I we had a nice-looking frost yesterday and still some Autumn colors, so here's the small posting. http://web.me.com/mwsmith100/2009_bottle_lambs/Autumn_2009.html

Re: [Blackbelly] line breeding

2009-12-09 Thread Michael Smith
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:20:26 -0600 From: "Nancy & Tom Richardson" We have line bred for about 5 years to get the horn traits that we want. We started with Wingnut bred him to his daughters once. Then took a son "Junior" and bred him to those first of his dads which were basically his sister

[Blackbelly] Aggressive Ram

2010-01-12 Thread Michael Smith
regarding: >> Message: 3 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:11:36 -0700 From: "Dave Andrus" Garland, 1)Are you saying that all rams are not aggressive and some can be kept with the flock all year round. I was told that it is always a good idea to keep a ram segregated from the flock (except for breeding

[Blackbelly] Aggressive Ram

2010-01-15 Thread Michael Smith
>>> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:26:56 -0700 From: "Dave Andrus" Thanks to everyone for all the helpful input!!! I can already see things I have done wrong in trying to treat my ram like a dog instead of a ram. A mistake I will not make again and great tips for a successful future with my little fri

Re: [Blackbelly] Caring for a new flock

2010-01-16 Thread Michael Smith
regarding: >>> Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:19:51 -0700 From: Robert Jung To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Caring for a new flock If you've never given them shots before it's not as hard as it might seem. Our vet talked us through it on the phone. The

Re: [Blackbelly] Lambing kit on a budget

2010-01-25 Thread Michael Smith
and something for scours/diarrhea, especially if you get stuck with a bottle-baby. 1] I am starting to like Corrid for possible coccidia, most people use Albon. Corrid is crazy expensive. See if you can get the vet to pour you a smaller bottle of it to try. 2] some sort of pro-biotic replacem

Re: [Blackbelly] an all black blackbelly lamb

2010-02-02 Thread Michael Smith
I've seen quite a few different patterns with black, when shopping for lambs to start my flock: Look at the little guy in the top right. http://picasaweb.google.com/mwsmotorsports/New_Barbados10308857PM#5253879184549225234 this breeder had a couple different patterns going. they all looked cow

Re: [Blackbelly] putting young rams in with adult rams

2010-02-17 Thread Michael Smith
Crystal. Some amusing pictures of me pondering the same thing a few months ago. Turned out to be a big non-event. They basically just chase the newer, smaller ram, and try to mount him. http://picasaweb.google.com/mwsmotorsports/Ziggy_With_Big_rams829091018PM# -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.

[Blackbelly] Late Winter AB Ram pix

2010-03-02 Thread Michael Smith
Just got such a nice pose out of our three "boys" I thought I would share. They live together and only get to spend time with the girls when I breed them. They spend half their time sizing each other up and mounting each other, but they really like each other's company. http://web.me.com/mwsmith1

[Blackbelly] Lambing this year

2010-03-07 Thread Michael Smith
Dave Andrus said: I only have four ewes, three have had twins and the last should Lamb. today or tomorrow. This is my rookie year lambing and I attribute most of the success to folks on the forum and a very helpful local neighbor. Thanks Carolina for your diligence and all on-the-job forum fo

Re: [Blackbelly] Shepherd's crook

2010-03-11 Thread Michael Smith
>Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:59:54 -0700 From: "Dave Andrus" To: Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] shepherds Staff Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I am looking for a shepherd's staff that is a good quality, long lasting and

Re: [Blackbelly] Lamb with the runs (Julian Hale)

2010-03-18 Thread Michael Smith
>> From: Julian Hale Yes, Pro-biotics would be a good idea, also try kaolin-pectin to stop up her system a bit, and make sure she gets electrolytes. It seems like she's too young to have worms, but I always worry about coccidia in lambs/kids. Sulfadimethoxine(just about every feed store carries

Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 6, Issue 53

2010-03-26 Thread Michael Smith
> Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:47:49 -0700 > From: Julian Hale > > Sorry for the late reply, I "lost" this message in all the hustle and bustle > lately. > > This is the problem with Corid, it inhibits thiamin uptake in the rumen, and > leads to a B1 deficiency.  I've read that Rumen

Re: [Blackbelly] Shepherds tactics

2010-03-28 Thread Michael Smith
plus, how would it eat, defecate, urinate? or heal with a straight leg, since a lamb with a splint can run like a bullet, so it would "have" to be carried at all times, if the leg was not splinted and the shepherd carried it pretty much always... -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies On Sun,

[Blackbelly] First lambs from my first bottle-ewes

2010-03-29 Thread Michael Smith
The first of three yearling bottle-ewes who had lambs just this morning. http://web.me.com/mwsmith100/spring_2010/Pebbles.html I was lucky enough to stick my head in before work, and see them, so I took a bit of extra time and clipped their cords, disinfected the cords and basically checked them

[Blackbelly] New momma will not hold still to feed lamb after 10 hours

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Smith
we witnessed a ram's birth last night and it was about 10:30. He is still a bit wet and unclean this morning at 8am--but mostly dry. She's still bonding , but will NOT hold still for him to eat and it's 10 hours since birth. She keeps side-stepping like she's being invaded, but will talk to him an

Re: [Blackbelly] New momma will not hold still to feed lamb after 10hours

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Smith
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Re: [Blackbelly] New momma will not hold still to feed lamb after 10hours

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Smith
OK thanks for the response, Liz. She just started holding still for him and he's definitely feeding, eve with me standing 4 feet away. pictures, soon. _Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Michael Smith wrote: > placenta was passed. it was a big, single

Re: [Blackbelly] New momma will not hold still to feed lambafter 10hours

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Smith
Thanks everyone, all appears to be well now. This is my first time being able to witness the entire birthing process so I was a bit of a nervous wreck this morning. Sorry for the alarm. here's the nice pictures from this morning: http://web.me.com/mwsmith100/spring_2010/Ruby.html here's the med

[Blackbelly] Last Bottle ewe has twin rams (pictures and movies)

2010-04-03 Thread Michael Smith
Yesterday morning, I checked Angie and she was showing a sign she might be close to having contractions, her vulva was pink, instead of her usual grey. But I was not sure, since it was a step earlier than with Ruby, whom I was sure was going to lamb, because her mucous came out. Well, I came home

[Blackbelly] Please help me identify this discharge

2010-04-10 Thread Michael Smith
here is the link to the pictures, the heading in the web page explains everything, but I'll copy and paste it here: http://web.me.com/mwsmith100/problem/Photos.html 12 days after giving birth and I find this mass stuck to Pebbles’ tail, with a wet string of it leading to the area by her anus an

Re: [Blackbelly] Please help me identify this discharge

2010-04-11 Thread Michael Smith
thanks to everyone who responded. Pebbles the ewe, is bright, happy, hungry and lets me know when. and since I had no foul smell or obvious pus, (and she's having good stool) I concur, this appears to be normal after-birth. Thanks again _Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies. __

[Blackbelly] Cute lamb movies

2010-04-12 Thread Michael Smith
blatant cuteness for those who are a sucker for it. I know I am. Quicktime format this time. http://web.me.com/mwsmith100/spring_2010/Cute_lamb_movies.html -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit

Re: [Blackbelly] Bent legged lamb updates

2010-04-18 Thread Michael Smith
Jules, has your vet not recommended splinting, by now? I would be interested in hearing from the more experienced shepherds, here. I would think this falls somewhat under the category of an injury. Their bones are still developing and growing so fast, it seems like a splint might help head things

Re: [Blackbelly] Alfalfa for sheep?

2010-05-06 Thread Michael Smith
yup, fed my mother ewes a small flake of alfalfa at night, between the three of them... all winter, until they lambed, and now am feeding them alfalfa pellets at night. During the day, they get field grass. _MWS On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Nancy & Tom Richardson wrote: > alfalafa / orchard i

[Blackbelly] Lamb YouTube movie

2010-05-17 Thread Michael Smith
My 5 ram lambs, thriving and doing well. This is a few weeks ago. They are all at or past 20 lbs now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH6yLOOt_S8 And a cute side-note with my dog Sheila who lives with the rams. Was trying to shoot video of them, but she kept distracting me with this task she was t

[Blackbelly] Manure color

2010-06-09 Thread Michael Smith
It's drying up here in Northern California. Starting to get 80-90* days and the grass is almost all brown. There are a few green blades and a few green weeds, but mostly brown, dried plant matter. Which makes me wonder why one of my older ewes, who has no access to alfalfa pellets, is having fairl

Re: [Blackbelly] Solar lawnmower update

2010-06-11 Thread Michael Smith
Peter, in San Martin, near San Jose, we too have late-shedding sheep. A few have just started, and look exactly like you say, and others are completely shed, now. I start my mornings by coming out and releasing the younger/smaller animals from their pens and usually pay a little attention to them,

Re: [Blackbelly] Solar lawnmower update

2010-06-14 Thread Michael Smith
Peter, you made the below comment, and I finally took the time to post some pics I took last week, which show the same amount of peeling coats, for Northern California. http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/sheep/12558854_cvPzu#901314437_2Vu65 -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies. On Thu, Jun 10, 20

Re: [Blackbelly] Solar lawnmower update

2010-06-15 Thread Michael Smith
Added some pics from a month ago up front. http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/sheep/12558854_cvPzu#902143601_4zFcq Our Lily, looking mighty nappy in those pictures as well. Plus, some good examples of Groucho's nice horn growth in just one month. _MWS On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Peter C.

Re: [Blackbelly] New Here!

2010-06-16 Thread Michael Smith
Hi Krystal. I too can attest to being a newbie and working my way towards having more tame animals I can barn easily and that are not dangerous to me. I have a too-spolied bottle-fed intact ram that is very friendly, but also dangerous. No matter how many times I toss him on his back, he will enga

[Blackbelly] Ram lamb's graduation day

2010-07-30 Thread Michael Smith
The 4-month-old intact ram lambs get moved into the big-boy's pen, while their wethered siblings remain with the ewes. This process is kinda heart-breaking for a couple of days, since the ewes can bellow for a few days until they are hoarse. The movies are QuickTime Movies. http://mwsmith.smugmu

Re: [Blackbelly] Help: Need info on bottle feeding

2010-08-02 Thread Michael Smith
If you can get the ewe to hang in a VERY small pen with the babies, I bet, within a few hours, she will start feeding them. http://web.me.com/mwsmith100/spring_2010/Angie.html But watch to see if she's being violent, and kicking them. _Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010

Re: [Blackbelly] Help: Need info on bottle feeding

2010-08-02 Thread Michael Smith
From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info > [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info]on Behalf Of > Michael Smith > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:47 PM > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Help: Need info on bottle feeding > > >

Re: [Blackbelly] Help: Need info on bottle feeding

2010-08-02 Thread Michael Smith
Tom, also those teets are small, and you may want to try this, for milking, if you have a larger syringe around. http://www.tvsp.org/sheep_milker.html don't forget to bump upwards on the bag a few times to get it to let down, before you try this. _MWS On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Carol Elkin

Re: [Blackbelly] Update on bottle babies Day 2

2010-08-04 Thread Michael Smith
Great to hear, Tom. Can you confirm with a lightweight scale? were those babies really in the 1 lb weight range? Any pictures you can post? I've only had two rounds of lambs myself and would be curious to see this. My lightest lamb ever was maybe 4.5 lbs. -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.

Re: [Blackbelly] Update on bottle babies

2010-08-04 Thread Michael Smith
will try to post pictures today or tomorrow > > Tom > > > > -Original Message----- > From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info > [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info]on Behalf Of > Michael Smith > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:59 AM > To

Re: [Blackbelly] Update on bottle babies Day 2

2010-08-05 Thread Michael Smith
Tom, my wife and I were following closely as well. Sorry to hear that. We had a similar situation with a pair of twins last year, where one was born 8 lbs and the other 4 lbs. The 4 lb one did not make it, after a bit more than a month of triage. This list was great and supplied invaluable informat

[Blackbelly] California breeders: more ram lambs than ewe lambs this year?

2010-08-05 Thread Michael Smith
This year we bred three ewes and had 5 ram lambs and no ewe lambs. Our old salt neighbor lady, who used to raise sheep, commented that maybe a drought is coming and the animals can sense it, so they had boys (not planning on a lot of reproduction, is the reason) I know certain species can adjust

Re: [Blackbelly] Ewe with running nose

2010-08-09 Thread Michael Smith
I had one a few weeks ago. Running clear and green mucous. Pretty thick stuff. She had it for a good two weeks. In her case, I thought it might be because I had just started feeding her peanuts in the shell, and she might have gotten some mold, or been allergic to them. In any case, I stopped feedi

Re: [Blackbelly] Ewe with running nose You ain't gonna believe this!!!

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Smith
how did you "Knock her out"? -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Cecil Bearden wrote: > Last night my vet friend & I "knocked out" my ewe with the coated face and > found the problem.  We suspected anything from a tumor to nasal bots.   What > we found was bermud

Re: [Blackbelly] A question about grain

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Smith
I give them Alfalfa pellets and occasionally, for a treat, oat whole grain. I get them both at Tractor Supply in California. _MWS On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Tom Quinn wrote: > Before I get to the question ewe 2 just had a nice healthy little ewe lamb. > That helps counter the 2 that we lo

Re: [Blackbelly] Worming info/dosage

2010-08-23 Thread Michael Smith
Kristi, de-worming them is a good idea anyway, but these sheep tend to be skinny with (somewhat) bloated bellies after eating. Especially on dry stuff, as opposed to wet grass (at least where I live in California). Do you barn them at night, so they don't have access to a lot of food? If so, check

Re: [Blackbelly] good movie about sheep

2010-08-24 Thread Michael Smith
Carol. I watched this movie using streaming on my iPad. Fantastic! Thanks for the suggestion. Had to show some of the good parts to my wife. Beautiful scenery. The movie's pace forces you to slow down and do things on their time. Very effective. My favorite scenes were the one where the herder is

Re: [Blackbelly] Must be fall

2010-09-07 Thread Michael Smith
yeah, some of mine in San Martin, CA. are already starting to sprout a little wool for winter. Kinda funny, since the Bison down the street have not finished shedding their thick wool from LAST winter. Unusually cool summer here, with only a handful of days above 100*F and the same amount in the 90

[Blackbelly] Ram pix for Fall, 2010

2010-09-30 Thread Michael Smith
Have not seen many posts. Thought I would share some pix of The Boys a few weeks ago. http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/RamsSept2010/13988192_MQs45#1028603433_Jp6cf _Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing lis

Re: [Blackbelly] Ram pix for Fall, 2010

2010-10-01 Thread Michael Smith
Thanks, Carol. I love looking at other people's animals as well, so please let us know if there's any updated pictures. _MWS On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Carol Elkins wrote: > Michael, absolutely stunning rams. I really enjoy your photos. Thanks for > posting. > > Carol > > At 12:41 PM 9/30/2

Re: [Blackbelly] Ram pix for Fall, 2010

2010-10-01 Thread Michael Smith
Peter, thanks! I could dress them in tuxedo collars and a bow-tie, if you like ;-) _MWS On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Carol Elkins wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:43:12 -0600 >> From: Carol Elkins >> Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellys

Re: [Blackbelly] Ram pix for Fall, 2010

2010-10-01 Thread Michael Smith
you know, the one thing my rams don't get, which some other local rams do, is a huge mane on their shoulders and sides of the neck, like this guy, who is in Hollister (a bit south, a bit less sun and more ocean breeze). not sure if it's the weather, or breeding or age, or what? None of them are 3

Re: [Blackbelly] Am. Blackbelly Sheep manes, etc.

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Smith
Yeowsa, thanks for those pix, Beth. Bradley is amazing in that picture by himself, and Badger, Andy and Mickey are also impressive. So, I know it's definitely not an age thing. Thanks for that. _Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies. On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:24 PM, GARLAND STAMPER wrote: > Hi Mich

Re: [Blackbelly] Dolly our sick sheep.

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Smith
Bill and Ginger, really sorry to hear about Dolly. I was following along, but frustrated, since I am new to sheep and have had no adult sicknesses or mortalities, yet, to draw experience from. Michael Smith Sent from my iPad On Nov 20, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Bill & Ginger Haynes wrote: &

Re: [Blackbelly] Peter's winter report

2010-11-27 Thread Michael Smith
soon enough. Sometimes more than others. I also find one of my girls does this 100% of the time with our dog. She just loves the dog and does not need to be in heat to do the droopy dopey face and wagging tail thing. Funny thing is, the dog is a girl, as well. Michael Smith Sent from my iPad

Re: [Blackbelly] Peter's winter report

2010-11-28 Thread Michael Smith
th100/Sheila/with_lambs.html#grid all the 2009 lambs used to really flock around her, now it's only Ruby and Ziggy who do. _MWS On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2010, Michael Smith wrote: >> > >> I also find one of my girls does this 1

Re: [Blackbelly] Peter's winter report (fwd)

2010-11-29 Thread Michael Smith
same for me, I work at Apple Inc. in California. I work in the design and engineering center for iPods and iPads and iPhones and such. The young city-slickers (of which I was one only 5 years ago) are fascinated by sheep and goat stories and send me links about fainting goats, dancing Barbado shee

Re: [Blackbelly] Grilled onions, sheep gangs

2011-02-04 Thread Michael Smith
you mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgSP4QveeRA this is a new cat we adopted. the sheep follow him and wag their tails. The cat is better at herding than our dog. Although, he does it by getting them to follow him. my sheep are also attracted to our Aussie dog like this as well. A

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