thanks will wait for your email.
At 09:22 AM 4/21/2013, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Glad to hear that. Tell you what. I'll write you off list about this
subject and we willsee if you can arrange for a download so Audyssey
can upload and share these games when Blindsoftware.com goes out of
business.
On the wikipedia page about the board game, at the bottom, they have links
to a few online versions - but haven't tested them to see if they're
accessible as such:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico_%28board_game%29
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body,
Hi where did you find the joke game audio version of The hobbit, the true
story? since I was just wondering since I would love to hear it. from Mich.
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Hi tom.
that is the usual practice with D100's, indeed as I said most of my friends
don't use them anyway. however doing it witha d10, a coin toss and another
D10 for a d20 was doable, but somewhat ircsome, for all it was necessary
being that the faces on the d20 were too small to braille.
Ok, this isn't an audio version, but, it lets you play the hobbit, the true
story either online, or seems to also offer downloads for other versions of
this version of the game story:
http://www.solvalou.com/misc_hobbit.php
Jacob Kruger
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Hi tom.
heroes of the maze was incredibly cool, though I haven't found any
references to it since (even on wikipedia). It was indeed quite surprising
that a specialist boarding school would have such a game, and is one of the
few good memories I have of that school when i was 9-10.
Then
Hi tom.
that is true, especially where you have to have really small lables such as
on the d10's. mine are still okay, but then again I switched to using gma
dice because it's simply easier.
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Hi Tom.
that sounds more along the lines of tabeltop wargames than the sort of
tabletop rpg I was thinking of. I've never really had access to such things
myself simply because overview o the board and the various units is a
pain, plus, while it's something I'd like to try, I will
Hi Decota.
would love to try talisman, but sadly all the printed cards etc put me off
rather which is a shame since I love the rules and so on (as I said, my
brother is an avid fan and owns the base game plus several expantions).
I actually contributed 20 usd to the project, but i agree the
Hi Tom.
As regards cannon this is unfortunately true. Much as I enjoy the super
starwars trilogy of games on the Snes, it is unfortunately truet hat a lot
of liberties were taken.
for example, the first level sees you playing as Luke sky walker wandering
through the dune sea of tatueen
Hi Folks
Shalva put a link to my 2005 beta of Sarah in the Audio Games forum.
So I am also including it here:
It is on my web site at,
http://www.pcsgames.net/Sarah10Beta.exe
Sarah10Beta.exe 81,393 MB
Be aware that it installs in the same folder as the current Sarah game so
during
I think it was the old TDLGames web site but I'm pretty sure that site's
long since been taken down.
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Hi where did you
Hi, How and where can I obtain a copy for myself? Thanks.
Jesse G
On 4/20/13, Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com wrote:
Hi Lindsay.
My sincere apologies, I've been having issues with Livedrive of late, plus
with other commitments haven't had the time to reupload the file, however
The Boston situation? Are you for real?
At 05:32 PM 4/20/2013, you wrote:
I think we might have a bigger problem on our hands.
I read in the audiogames.net forum that some
people actually bought this new package and got
a partially strange order confirmation mail, but
no further messages in
Oooh, thanks!
Christina
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On the wikipedia page about the board game, at the
I believe Justin's in Ohio same as Thomas is.
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The Boston situation? Are you for real?
At 05:32 PM
This seems reasonable to me.
Christina
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Hi Decota.
would love to try talisman, but sadly all the
Yes, this seems reasonable to me as well.
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This seems reasonable to me.
Christina
Hi Phil.
I'm always a little confused as to why people have such an obsession with
old betas. I can understand why people want to preserve games that aren't
available anymore, but in the case of Sarah, there have been so many good
changes since that original version (sarah's voice acting not
I was just wondering if anyone has thought of 3D printing as a possible
way to get brailled dice? There is a lot of experimentation being done
using 3D printers. It might be possible to have someone print dice with
the brailled numbers on them. I have no idea about how much that would
cost,
Hello
Sounds like fun.
Thank you
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Why shouldn't I be?
I live in Germany, but that doesn't mean that I know where audio game
developers live.
And even I know what lockdown and manhunt mean.
Besides, we have reports of some people who say that they bought the package
and got no link or damaged files while atempting to get said
Hi all,
I'm happy to report that all seems well with the BSC ordering process.
Everything worked fine, and nothing was nrrupt or missing.
The bad news is that most of his main games have serious compatibility issues
with Windows 8. the only games that work with Windows 8 that I've found are the
hI there
Very well put. I don't think anybody has the right 2 pick on any1 4 any
reason. Being born and rased in the uS I still had a lot of truble with my
English as far as spelling and grammer. I was picked on my hole life 4 it
people can b so mean sometimes.
Happy gaming
James
Hi Eleanor.
i've not actually heard of 3D printing as applied to braille, if however it
resolved in paper dice there might be a problem since obviously they are
dice and do need to roll, though i suppose if you could print the numbers
and then put them on a plastic or similar frame that would
Hi Eleanor,
Perhaps, but once again the raised print or braille would have to be
large enough to feel. A lot of the d10 and d20 dice I've scene are too
small to make 3d printing a workable solution in my opinion.
Cheers!
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I was just wondering
Hi Dark,
That is what it was. A tabletop war game. I never suggested it was
anything else. :D
I had a couple of games like that. One was called World At War or
something like that and you could command units of infantry, tanks,
and so on. Kind of like the game of Risk only instead of a board you
Hi Charles,
Yes, but that creates a secondary problem. When I label things I
always try to use clear label tape so that someone sighted such as my
wife or son can read it if need be. However, if I use super glue on it
that will pretty much nicks that idea as the glue will put a coding of
white
Hi Dark,
Interesting. That Heroes of the Maze sounds a lot like the RPG board
game Dark World.
In Dark World you could choose your champion from a dwarf, ranger,
knight, or I think it was an elf as I recall. Anyway the board is a
giant castle and your champion goes through the board room by
Hi Dakotah,
Well, in terms of buying a set I'd definitely pay at least $20 USD
perhaps $25 USD for a full set of brailed gaming dice. Probably $30
USD max. Beyond that I would probably make do with the GMA dice
rolling program simply because anything more than $30 is too much for
a set of dice
Um, phil, just curious, why did you put the beta version of Sarah up on the
website?
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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:34 AM
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Subject: [Audyssey] Sarah beta from 2005
Hi Folks
Shalva put a link to my 2005 beta of Sarah in
Hi Tom.
well wargaming is pretty much it's own genre anyway, indeed I know people
that buy specific minitures and rule books for specific games, paint their
own miniatures etc.
The only war game I've ever really fancied has been battletech, since that
was based on having four or five mech
Hi tom.
that sounds a little more complex than heroes of the maze was, in heroes of
the maze there were no items and no melee wrating, merely a standard set of
rules for each battle. it was really just a giant game of chance, but a
rather fun one for all of that.
That darkworld game is
Hi Dark,
Well, not everyone is a purest, and that is another issue to consider
when writing games. Some customers are not going to care about cannon
or be a die-hard purest just as long as they can play their favorite
character. Others such as yourself get upset if a game developer or a
producer
Hi Dark,
Right. I'm interested to see what the next generation of Time of
Conflict will be like since it sounds like we will be able to create
custom units, maps, and campaigns which would rock.
However, that said, I plan to upgrade my Toshiba to Windows 8 in the
next couple of months and since
Sorry for these messages people. These were sent days ago and for some reason,
have just shown up now.
Oops!
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I tink the problem is that the wording of Justin's Email made it seem thhat
way. LOL.
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Actually you're
Hi Sky,
Shalva helped me with a voice for the Three broomsticks owner, so as thanks
I put it up from a request.
It will not stay there long as I need the space for the 1.2 beta that will
not be public.
Phil
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Hi Phil, I was just wondering if you'd planned to ass Hagrid's dog Fang to
the game? I wondered how he'd get on with Mrs Norris. I'm looking forward
to the new release and to playing in the new Dumbledore's office. From
Lori.
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no reason why not ofcause you would have to have the 3d printer, and
then ofcause how big could a home 3d printer print dice.
pluss printing with the braille dots.
it would be easier and probably cheaper for those of us to buy the dice.
At 02:29 AM 4/22/2013, you wrote:
I was just wondering if
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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sarah beta
I'd love to see him chacing the cat or better still, scaring off the
caretaker. I also want to cast the cheering charm on Filtch, wonder what
he'd sound like laughing.
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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:43 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject:
Hi Dark, 3D printers are coming way down in price now and they print from a
plastic material. So the dice you would get are solid 3D plastic (or some
polymer) objects just like normal dice.
So you can print Braille right on the dice in the same material…
HTH
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Hi tom.
I do take your point, and it is certainly true in terms of Doctor who and
starwars I've seen a lot of things slide and it is also true I can enjoy a
game as a game just as well as the next person. one intrinsic problem in
lotr however, is that you are dealing with something far more
Well tom leaving aside the microsoft issues (since as you know i've yet to
find a good use for windows 7, let alone 8), I am very impressed with Time
of Conflict's ability with map overview, and i look forward to seeing what
the next version does.
If yu'd asked me a few years ago to pick
Hi Lori.
that's a really nice idea, fang could hang around you and scare Mrs. norris
away :d.
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Hi charles.e
Last I checked it was fluffy who had the three heads, and who I think is
already in the game :D.
Fang is Hagrid's large black boar hound, similar to an Irish wolf
hound, and while reputedly very bouncy with a fondness for licking people,
he only had one head the last I
Interesting Kara, not something I've heard of before, though I'd be
surprised if the 3D printer could actually create a shape as complex as a
tesolated dodeckahedron.
Sadly though I doubt I'd have the money to buy such a printer just for the
dice, indeed if they cost similar to current access
Hi Cara,
That's my fault. Your messages were just slightly over the 10 KB limit
and were held for moderator approval. Since traffic is up I didn't get
to it until the weekend, and because they were just slightly over 10
KB let them through a little late.
Cheers!
On 4/20/13, Cara Quinn
Hey, Phil.
Are you going to have Diagon Alley, Hawarts Express, and the Forbidden
forrest in the new version?
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Hawarts Express? Forbidden Forrest? Can't say I remember those in Harry
Potter. LOL.
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Hey, Phil.
Are you going to have
I know that in the old War in Middle-Earth game Gandalf could be killed, but
he would always return sooner or later, almost instantaneously as I recall
from the one time I saw it happen when my brother played the game.
But thou must!
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From: dark
Sent: Sunday,
Hi guys,
Please, stop with the teasing and jesting over peoples spelling. I
know it is irritating and sometimes funny when people misspell
something, but we need to try and be considerate of other peoples
feelings as well.
Cheers!
On 4/21/13, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
It can.
They can print complex parts with the printer. I've seen figurines that
came out of the printer and they can also make gun parts.
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Hey, Brian.
The train in Harry Potter was called Hawarts express, and the forrest
that Harry Potter had to go through to before he went to the bottom of
the school in the first book and movie.
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It was actually the Hogwarts Express though, not Hawarts. And there's only
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person's name like Forrest Gump.
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Interesting christina, though as Tom said even if you could create the dice,
labeling them might be another matter, plus obviously not everyone has
access to one of these printers.
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Hi all,
In light of what is happening with Blindsoftware.com, formally BSC
Games, I thought I would throw an offer out here that some of you
could consider and think about. Perhaps offer up your advice or
suggestions regarding this matter.
Based on my discussions with Justin via email he does
Hi Tom,
I personally would say scrap those old games, and proceed with your own ideas.
I mean as it is, you have a game that is not finished.. I don't know if you're
planning to go on with MOTA, or if it's in the trash can, but I was highly
interested in that title. We do not have enough
Well, Thomas.
I think the games are fine the way they are.
However if they could be ported to iOS, and Mac it might be something
worth investing into.
However I have some questions that I would like to ask you off list
concerning the matter of game developement of games.
I think it would also
Hi Tom, I think this is a great idea, there are some good games as you say that
have been ether abandoned or just not written due to developers going and other
things. Castle quest got abandoned due to justin and bsc games being let down
and it sounded like it was going to be a great title. I
Remember, they would have to be rewritten from scratch inorder for that to
happen.
But thou must!
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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:31 PM
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Well, Thomas.
I think the
Hi Ryan,
Agreed. Although, I must say MOTA is not scrapped. Its being updated
as we speak, and I am hoping to hear back from my voice actress soon
with a batch of voice work for the game. So its not scrapped just a
bit different.
Cheers!
On 4/21/13, Ryan Conroy staindadd...@juno.com wrote:
Hi
Agreed. I'll certainly donate wheI can. Unlike some I feel games like these
are worth saving.
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Hi Tom, I think
well they are old classics, I say keep the classics alive myself.
the rest can come as they do.
At 10:27 AM 4/22/2013, you wrote:
Hi Tom,
I personally would say scrap those old games, and proceed with your
own ideas. I mean as it is, you have a game that is not finished.. I
don't know if
Hi Michael,
Which is why they would have to be rewritten from scratch to begin
with. The language used for the original versions isn't compatible
with iOS or Mac OS. So something like Object C would be needed for
versions running on Mac OS and iOS.
Anyway, you can certainly write me off list and
hi tom.
I don't think I'd spend cash on remakes, these games are classics, we
have enough space invadors clones out there for troop 1 2 etc.
alien outback is almost the same format as troop2.
good old games but.
pipe 1 and 2, had their day, sure I'd like to keep them alive for as
long as I can
Agreed. They were and are good games that shouldn't be allowed to die if
that can be prevented.
But thou must!
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well they are
Hi Lori,
I do have Fang in the update but he is not able to get into the castle.
Phil
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Hi
Right. But, someone can print them and sell them.
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Interesting christina, though as Tom said even if
I also aggree however I don't know if I'd actually would shell out
for them again.
the reason I even thought like I did origionally was before I read
the offer email properly.
if these were just straight ports with modification thats fine but rewrites?
that would take ages to do and new sounds
Hi,
since these games work under Windows 7, and since Windows 7 has a good bit
of years ahead of it, I'd say don't invest so much time for rewriting these
titles. Everyone who wants to keep playing them can do so for years to come,
and after that time I hope we have more things to play than
Hi,
This is a really tough call. On one hand, I do think that these games
will always have their place, even just for nostalgia's sake. But is
that enough to update them to run on modern systems? My gut reaction
is to say no.
I think that part of the nostalgia of these games may be just
Hi Shaun,
Which is why the questions. As far as I am concerned Alien Outback is
as good as Troopanum and its always possible Draconis will produce a
new version for Windows, Mac, and iOS which would make the time and
money spent on a Troopanum remake kind of pointless. Hunter is OK, but
I could
Hi Tom,
For my two cents...
I would say that many of the old games would not be worth a remake.
However, why not get a more detailed opinion from the list. I am sure when
people talk about wanting an old game remake, that they are thinking of maybe
two or three games on average.
So maybe it
Hi Shaun,
Well, I don't know that it would take ages to do. Games like Troopanum
are actually pretty simple from the perspective of an experienced
programmer. I'd say six months tops for a game like that. So time
isn't really the issue. It is the issue of having to invest in new
sounds and music
Here's my thoughts:
I dont personally feel that I would spend money on these
games at the current time, though this may change, especially
given how much I'm on muds lately. I would really like to see
them stay available in their current form, though. Perhaps a
developer could host them on
Thomas.
Can I get a email for you?
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Following on from the point Sarah just made, I'd say that if and when
these titles become less easy to acquire or less easy to get up and
running, there will be some advantages. People who're just starting
out and experimenting with development need challenges. At the moment,
if someone knocks out
Hi Al,
Yes, the wrestling game started out as a remake of the old Piledriver
game for Dos, and obviously is still in active production. However,
that is a good case in point.
The reason I began rewriting Piledriver is my new laptop is a 64-bit
machine and Piledriver will not run on it because it
As soon as I sent that post, I realized my mistake. (grin)
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sarah
Hi Scott,
All good points. The only reason I was tossing this offer out there
was to see how people felt about it. I know there is a lot of anxiety
over Justin leaving. People worried if their games are compatible with
Windows 8, people wondering what will happen if they can't afford the
key
It's not a case of labeling them either, as the braille patterns would
be part of the design from the word go. A 3d printer spits out the
design it's given, it doesn't matter to the machine whether those
bumps in the design happen to be in the right places to form braille.
Definitely one of the
This is where braille beats speech by a mile. The train to the school is
The Hogwarts Express. The name of the school is Hogwarts. For
understandability with speech, it is hog warts, written as one word.
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Well they'd have to be. As Tom said Justin either lost or deleted the source
code. And anyway the original language would be incompatible with IOS and,
from what I've heard, there are serious compatibility issues with newer
versions f WIndows.
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Except nowadays there are NES style controllers that ca conect to a PC. So
you can still get that controller feel on an emulator without having to
worry about the NES messing up on you, which they do from time to time (the
dreaded blinking screen anyone?)
But thou must!
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Hi Michael,
Actually, the train in Harry Potter was called the Hogwarts Express
not the Hawarts Express, and there is only one r in forest. That's
what Bryan was commenting on.
Cheers!
On 4/21/13, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote:
Hey, Brian.
The train in Harry Potter was called Hawarts
Why is there so much focus on the fact that these are old games? The
question should be, Are they good games? Just because they have been
around for a while, does that mean that they should not be updated if
someone is willing to take the time and effort? I do think, however, that
Ark of
Hi Phil,
Too bad. I was hoping to see Fang eat Mrs. Norris for a snack, and
then have him drop a crap in the caretaker's office. As you can see I
am still thinking of my psycho Sarah game idea. :D
On 4/21/13, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote:
Hi Lori,
I do have Fang in the update but he is
And I'm sure Thomas wants them off his back as quickly as reasonably
possible. LOL.
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Why is there so much focus
Me, I'd develop a Harry Potter style game but with a more Beavis and
Butthead style objective, namely cause as much chaos as possible without
getting caught. Maybe even do a game where Beavis and Butthead themselves
invade Hogwarts. Shudder...
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Hi Michael,
To a small extent Diagon Alley, is already in the game as you can get there
by using the floo powder.
However I think you are asking can you explore the shops and buy things. No,
unless someone twists my arm, as it would take a whole level in itself.
The Hogwarts Express is in the
Well Thomas, what I really want to see from you is the completion of
the projects you've already committed to doing. You simply shouldn't
take on yet more endless stuff right now. I even question the wisdom
of your involvement with whatever will become of Audyssey Magazine.
You've come close to
Hi Charles and all,
Correct. My current projects such as Raceway would absolutely have to
come first. No question about that. At this point I was merely gauging
interest in the idea of updating and reselling the BSC games at some
unspecified future point in time.
As to your question about why
Really? I didn't know that. That's something I'll have to take a look
into. Lol, yes, the blinking screen. that and the fact that it usually
takes about 8 tries to get any game to work properly.
On 4/21/13, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
Except nowadays there are NES style
LOL I know. It's because the connecter inside starts to come loose. There
are even systems that can play games from multiple consoles I.E. NES and
Super NES together. I own one but it has some quirks that I don't like. For
one thing it's extremely hard to remove the games once they're inserted.
I would be willing to support you on up grading the games since windows is
being up dated to win 8.
Tom and for the rest of the game and simulator companies out there.
I like something that is as real as possible.
When I work on a project with sighted partners I alsays ask them to close
their
I'll tell you this. If I was able to get the program started, I would
be using casting. The mold would be pretty expensive, and the material
wouldn't be too bad, but it wouldn't be remarkably cheap either.
I wouldn't gouge, but I'd also want to make at least a little profit,
because I love you
One more thing.
In most cases with an intellectual development, people offer discounts
because they want to make less of a roffit. So, let's say, someone
offers a pack whereby you buy two games for, let's say, the price of
one and a half games.
I wouldn't be able to do that very easily with the
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