[gentoo-user] Re: XEmacs build hangs loading update-elc.el
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:23:38 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: I'm trying to build XEmacs on my laptop (Hardened ~amd64), and it appears to be stuck near the end trying to load and/or execute update-elc.el (it's been on this step for approaching 6 hours now). This happens every time I attempt to build xemacs (I've re-synched and restarted the build multiple times.) I thought it might be related to having PaX in my kernel, but when I switched softmode on, the build actually segfaults almost immedately! https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75028 Hans
[gentoo-user] Re: why a manual dhcpcd eth0 is needed?
On 10/22/2011 08:08 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, On a recent gentoo install using wicd for network configuration, no connection is established during boot. After logging in, I need to issue dhcpcd eth0 to obtain an IP address and access the internet via ethernet. I thought wicd would take care of that. I did not emerge dhcpcd, it was emerged as a dependency of wicd. What am I missing? I have wicd starting during the boot runlevel. You probably don't have a correct /etc/conf.d/net file. Try: modules=dhcpcd config_eth0=dhcp
Re: [gentoo-user] Issue 3 - CD Playing
On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 01:19:15 Colleen Beamer wrote: This is solved. The solution came from posting to KDE forums. It was a configuration issue: In System Settings, I had to select Device Actions, Play Audio CD with KsCD, select Edit, select the devices property Available Content must equal Audio, choose Property Matchfor the parameter type, Optical Disk for the Device type, Available Content for the Value name and Equals Audio. That did the trick! Thanks for letting us know! I recall having problems in the past with kscd on a KDE desktop and I couldn't remember if I ever fixed it. Now I know how. ;-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] webalizer broke: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file
Am 22.10.2011 01:29, schrieb Grant: After updating world, webalizer fails like this: webalizer: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory revdep-rebuild wants to emerge webalizer but it fails with: configure: error: GeoIP library not found... please install GeoIP. geoip emerges fine. Does anyone know how to fix this? - Grant Install libpng-1.2, libpng 1.2 and 1.5 can co-exist. Thank you. I did that and webalizer now runs without error, but re-emerging webalizer still fails with: configure: error: GeoIP library not found... please install GeoIP. Actually, the ~amd64 version of webalizer emerges fine. - Grant Sorry, one more note. I noticed this at the end of the webalizer emerge output: * Running /usr/sbin/webapp-cleaner -p -C /webalizer /usr/sbin/webapp-cleaner: line 14: /sbin/functions.sh: No such file or directory * Nothing to clean Do I need to fix that? - Grant Can you try a newer version of app-admin/webapp-config? Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 回复： [gentoo-user] Why iwconfig wlan0 enc can't work?
On Friday 21 Oct 2011 16:40:01 Lavender wrote:
What!!! I know wpa_supplicant don't support
AES encryption method ,so I use wireless tools..
Who told you that?
So it seems that I have to use wpa_supplicant and
change AES encryption method into TKIP.
No you don't, unless the AP is configured to work with WPA only and not WPA2.
The latter uses CCMP.
I feel a little depressed :-(
Instead of feeling unnecessarily depressed, you may want to spend a few
minutes studying the manual files and looking at the example or configuration
files of applications that you intend to use:
Why do you think that wpa_supplicant does not support AES encryption? The
config file which is nicely commented shows:
=
# pairwise: list of accepted pairwise (unicast) ciphers for WPA
# CCMP = AES in Counter mode with CBC-MAC [RFC 3610, IEEE 802.11i/D7.0]
=
So to make your wireless connection work, emerge wpa_supplicant and add
something like this in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf:
network={
ssid=Rebellion
bssid=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX --enter the AP MAC address
proto=RSN
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=CCMP
auth_alg=OPEN
group=CCMP
psk=ascii key goes in here --use wpa_passphrase to create it
priority=5
}
To learn how to use wpa_passphrase run:
man wpa_passphrase
in a terminal.
HTH.
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Issue 3 - CD Playing
Mick wrote: On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 01:19:15 Colleen Beamer wrote: This is solved. The solution came from posting to KDE forums. It was a configuration issue: In System Settings, I had to select Device Actions, Play Audio CD with KsCD, select Edit, select the devices property Available Content must equal Audio, choose Property Matchfor the parameter type, Optical Disk for the Device type, Available Content for the Value name and Equals Audio. That did the trick! Thanks for letting us know! I recall having problems in the past with kscd on a KDE desktop and I couldn't remember if I ever fixed it. Now I know how. ;-) I finally got mine to open too. I did a emerge -e world since I could tell it was just some dep that got missed. Anyway, is it just me or is KSCD just got plain ugly? I went back to Smplayer. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re:Re: [gentoo-user] 回复： [gentoo-user] Why iwconfig wlan0 enc can't work?
Who told you that? I searched information though internal search engine, all I got was that wpa_supplicant don't support AES and once I had tried it just like the configuration you gave , it failed ,so I thought wpa_supplicant still don't support AES . Sorry, I made a mistake :-( , but finally I make it ,I can connect the Internet .
[gentoo-user] Can I send email under linux terminal?
Actually the subject is not correct . The emails I sent before were writtern on a web page , not on linux system , because I haven't install a KDE desktop which means I only can work under linux terminal. So whenever I want to write a email I have to reboot my computer and boot the windows system. I'm thinking that if I can send or receive mails just under terminal, no need web pages or windows. Also at the same time could I send mails though the mail server what I use right now under terminal?
Re: [gentoo-user] Can I send email under linux terminal?
Am 22.10.2011 11:47, schrieb Lavender: Actually the subject is not correct . The emails I sent before were writtern on a web page , not on linux system , because I haven't install a KDE desktop which means I only can work under linux terminal. So whenever I want to write a email I have to reboot my computer and boot the windows system. I'm thinking that if I can send or receive mails just under terminal, no need web pages or windows. Also at the same time could I send mails though the mail server what I use right now under terminal? Take a look at mail-client/mutt. http://wiki.mutt.org/index.cgi?MuttGuide Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 回复： [gentoo-user] Why iwconfig wlan0 enc can't work?
On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 10:30:34 Lavender wrote: Who told you that? I searched information though internal search engine, all I got was that wpa_supplicant don't support AES and once I had tried it just like the configuration you gave , it failed ,so I thought wpa_supplicant still don't support AES . Sorry, I made a mistake :-( , but finally I make it ,I can connect the Internet . I'm glad you can now connect! :-) CCMP which stands for Counter Mode with Cipher Block Chaining Message Authentication Code Protocol uses the Counter Mode with CBC-MAC, which from what I understand uses 128bit AES ciphers. So, as long as you set up wpa_supplicant to use proto=RSN with pairwise=CCMP and group=CCMP you will always connect with the AES encryption standard. NOTE: It is not necessary to specify CCMP because it is used by default as the first option, but if you don't specify it and the AP uses WPA/TKIP only, then instead of the connection failing wpa_supplicant will switch from CCMP to TKIP. I'm stating the obvious here, but if having a wireless connection is more important than *always* using AES, then of course you do not need to specify CCMP. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Can I send email under linux terminal?
On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 10:47:55 Lavender wrote: Actually the subject is not correct . The emails I sent before were writtern on a web page , not on linux system , because I haven't install a KDE desktop which means I only can work under linux terminal. Well, there's more than one ways to achieve the same result. You can continue to use a webmail account with a text mode web browser. There are a few to choose from - some will work better than others: www-client/elinks www-client/links www-client/lynx If your webmail provider has a correctly coded their webmail page then you should not have a problem accessing your messages with any of the above browsers, using SSL connection. Alternatively, you can use a mail client from within a console or an X terminal like: mail-client/mutt mail-client/alpine mail-client/pine Most of these require that you learn their respective key-binding commands, but have extensive documentation. mutt is probably used more widely these days and there are a few users in this M/L familiar with it. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Which desktop antivirus?
On Sat 22 Oct 2011 04:57:33 PM IST, Mick wrote: Hi All, I'm asked for a desktop antivirus (the box is running KDE) but I have never used an antivirus on Linux. This page that I googled up shows a number of them: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ Meanwhile, portage only lists clamav under app-antivirus/. The machine in question is running kmail to receive/send messages from ISP mail servers and ssmtp to send log messages for relaying via said ISP. What have you tried and what would you recommend for such a desktop setup? IMHO, you don't need antivirus on a Linux box, unless you're going to run a mail relay, where you are responsible for saving recipents from viruses. The simplest reason of all is, Linux doesn't know how to execute Windows binaries. -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
[gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
On 10/22/2011 02:27 PM, Mick wrote: Hi All, I'm asked for a desktop antivirus (the box is running KDE) but I have never used an antivirus on Linux. This page that I googled up shows a number of them: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ Meanwhile, portage only lists clamav under app-antivirus/. The machine in question is running kmail to receive/send messages from ISP mail servers and ssmtp to send log messages for relaying via said ISP. What have you tried and what would you recommend for such a desktop setup? You don't need one. Linux anti-virus programs are there to protect Windows installations (Windows executables passing through a Linux box). Since you said Desktop, I assume you meant protect against Linux viruses. Since there aren't any Linus viruses, there's no need for something like that.
Re: [gentoo-user] Which desktop antivirus?
Am 22.10.2011 13:29, schrieb Nilesh Govindarajan: On Sat 22 Oct 2011 04:57:33 PM IST, Mick wrote: Hi All, I'm asked for a desktop antivirus (the box is running KDE) but I have never used an antivirus on Linux. This page that I googled up shows a number of them: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ Meanwhile, portage only lists clamav under app-antivirus/. The machine in question is running kmail to receive/send messages from ISP mail servers and ssmtp to send log messages for relaying via said ISP. What have you tried and what would you recommend for such a desktop setup? IMHO, you don't need antivirus on a Linux box, unless you're going to run a mail relay, where you are responsible for saving recipents from viruses. I agree. Check that your ISP performs virus checks. If not or if you want to be extra sure, I think kmail can work with clamav -- at least it could in the old 3.x days when I still used it. The simplest reason of all is, Linux doesn't know how to execute Windows binaries. Well, this is an oversimplification. 1) Any box running Wine is possibly as exposed to your classic pretty-women.exe mail attachments as any windows systems. 2) You should also be worried about Open/LibreOffice macro viruses as well as PDF vulnerabilities. Not to forget Flash, Java or Mozilla based exploits. Still, keeping your system up-to-date and observing the freshly revived GLSA notifications is more likely to save your butt than clamav. Cheers, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re:Re: [gentoo-user] Can I send email under linux terminal?
Well, there's more than one ways to achieve the same result. You can continue to use a webmail account with a text mode web browser. There are a few to choose from - some will work better than others: www-client/elinks www-client/links www-client/lynx Ha , the language I use is Chinese ,although I can install some kinds of software to show Chinese under console I wouldn't like do it . Alternatively, you can use a mail client from within a console or an X terminal like: mail-client/mutt mail-client/alpine mail-client/pine Most of these require that you learn their respective key-binding commands, but have extensive documentation. mutt is probably used more widely these days and there are a few users in this M/L familiar with it. So I think I should read documentation about mutt. Thank you very much !
Re:Re: [gentoo-user] Can I send email under linux terminal?
Take a look at mail-client/mutt. http://wiki.mutt.org/index.cgi?MuttGuide Regards, Florian Philipp Thanks a lot , I will try it out.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
there aren't any Linux viruses, Except for the ones listed on the page below, which is probably incomplete. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware But yeah, on a linux desktop (especially a Gentoo one) you don't need a virus scanner. Yet.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why a manual dhcpcd eth0 is needed?
On 10/22/2011 02:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/22/2011 08:08 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, On a recent gentoo install using wicd for network configuration, no connection is established during boot. After logging in, I need to issue dhcpcd eth0 to obtain an IP address and access the internet via ethernet. I thought wicd would take care of that. I did not emerge dhcpcd, it was emerged as a dependency of wicd. What am I missing? I have wicd starting during the boot runlevel. You probably don't have a correct /etc/conf.d/net file. Try: modules=dhcpcd config_eth0=dhcp I have other gentoo laptops/machines and I typically leave this file empty. They all work with wicd in wired and wireless mode. -- Valmor
[gentoo-user] Gtk-Message: Failed to load module gnomesegvhandler
# gvim Gtk-Message: Failed to load module gnomesegvhandler # chromium Gtk-Message: Failed to load module gnomesegvhandler Both of them can work properly,but what's the problem with the warning?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
On Oct 22, 2011 9:10 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: there aren't any Linux viruses, Except for the ones listed on the page below, which is probably incomplete. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware But yeah, on a linux desktop (especially a Gentoo one) you don't need a virus scanner. Yet. That IMO is one aspect where Gentoo is 'naturally hardened' even when compared to other Linux distros: malware writers can't be sure that the vectors they need exist in a target box. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Which desktop antivirus?
Am Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:43:53 +0200 schrieb Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net: Am 22.10.2011 13:29, schrieb Nilesh Govindarajan: On Sat 22 Oct 2011 04:57:33 PM IST, Mick wrote: Hi All, I'm asked for a desktop antivirus (the box is running KDE) but I have never used an antivirus on Linux. This page that I googled up shows a number of them: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ Meanwhile, portage only lists clamav under app-antivirus/. The machine in question is running kmail to receive/send messages from ISP mail servers and ssmtp to send log messages for relaying via said ISP. What have you tried and what would you recommend for such a desktop setup? IMHO, you don't need antivirus on a Linux box, unless you're going to run a mail relay, where you are responsible for saving recipents from viruses. I agree. Check that your ISP performs virus checks. If not or if you want to be extra sure, I think kmail can work with clamav -- at least it could in the old 3.x days when I still used it. The simplest reason of all is, Linux doesn't know how to execute Windows binaries. Well, this is an oversimplification. 1) Any box running Wine is possibly as exposed to your classic pretty-women.exe mail attachments as any windows systems. 2) You should also be worried about Open/LibreOffice macro viruses as well as PDF vulnerabilities. Not to forget Flash, Java or Mozilla based exploits. or image rendering library bugs. or mono. or tricky multi-platform viruses/worms. saying that linux based viruses don't exist is simply wrong. there may not be much in the wild, but they definitely are out there. it is probably more difficult to write a successful virus for linux than for windows for a number or reasons but in principle the problem is the same as on windows. i think the main technical reason is the heterogeneity of the installations. one or two local exploits and you can hit almost any windows XP installation. in linux you have to deal with n combinations of kernel-version, glibc-version, etc. and there is very little you can depend on to be in a fixed location in memory since different compiler options may already change that. there are ways around all this of course[1], but its a lot of work. too much for the limited impact. also, a lot of malware seems to depend on social engineering for infection these days. i think thats going to work less good on a lot of linux users because the system conditions you to think before you act. that aside, i predict that we will see some linux viruses or worms with larger infections in the future. i guess the first ones will be for ubuntu because it has a large base of rather consistent base installations. /jonas -- [1] fun idea: something exploiting bugs in the usb storage subsystem or file system handling code spreading to usb sticks. you could probably even make that multi-platform if you find the needed bugs for different OSes. Still, keeping your system up-to-date and observing the freshly revived GLSA notifications is more likely to save your butt than clamav. Cheers, Florian Philipp
[gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
On 10/22/2011 05:07 PM, Adam Carter wrote: there aren't any Linux viruses, Except for the ones listed on the page below, which is probably incomplete. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware But yeah, on a linux desktop (especially a Gentoo one) you don't need a virus scanner. Yet. There are literally *millions* of Windows viruses. The Wikipedia page just proves Linux has virtually no viruses, and those listed don't even work anymore (exploits have been patched long ago.) Most existing Linux malware targets servers (like PHP software exploits in forums, wikis, etc) and desktop users don't need to worry. Furthermore, even if there were enough Linux viruses to worry about, there isn't a good way of getting infected. On Windows, you download random executables from the net. On Gentoo, you install your stuff through portage. It's nearly impossible to get infected.
Re: [gentoo-user] Which desktop antivirus?
On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 15:22:20 Jonas de Buhr wrote: Am Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:43:53 +0200 schrieb Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net: Am 22.10.2011 13:29, schrieb Nilesh Govindarajan: On Sat 22 Oct 2011 04:57:33 PM IST, Mick wrote: Hi All, I'm asked for a desktop antivirus (the box is running KDE) but I have never used an antivirus on Linux. This page that I googled up shows a number of them: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ Meanwhile, portage only lists clamav under app-antivirus/. The machine in question is running kmail to receive/send messages from ISP mail servers and ssmtp to send log messages for relaying via said ISP. What have you tried and what would you recommend for such a desktop setup? IMHO, you don't need antivirus on a Linux box, unless you're going to run a mail relay, where you are responsible for saving recipents from viruses. I agree. Check that your ISP performs virus checks. If not or if you want to be extra sure, I think kmail can work with clamav -- at least it could in the old 3.x days when I still used it. The simplest reason of all is, Linux doesn't know how to execute Windows binaries. Well, this is an oversimplification. 1) Any box running Wine is possibly as exposed to your classic pretty-women.exe mail attachments as any windows systems. 2) You should also be worried about Open/LibreOffice macro viruses as well as PDF vulnerabilities. Not to forget Flash, Java or Mozilla based exploits. or image rendering library bugs. or mono. or tricky multi-platform viruses/worms. saying that linux based viruses don't exist is simply wrong. there may not be much in the wild, but they definitely are out there. it is probably more difficult to write a successful virus for linux than for windows for a number or reasons but in principle the problem is the same as on windows. i think the main technical reason is the heterogeneity of the installations. one or two local exploits and you can hit almost any windows XP installation. in linux you have to deal with n combinations of kernel-version, glibc-version, etc. and there is very little you can depend on to be in a fixed location in memory since different compiler options may already change that. there are ways around all this of course[1], but its a lot of work. too much for the limited impact. also, a lot of malware seems to depend on social engineering for infection these days. i think thats going to work less good on a lot of linux users because the system conditions you to think before you act. that aside, i predict that we will see some linux viruses or worms with larger infections in the future. i guess the first ones will be for ubuntu because it has a large base of rather consistent base installations. /jonas -- [1] fun idea: something exploiting bugs in the usb storage subsystem or file system handling code spreading to usb sticks. you could probably even make that multi-platform if you find the needed bugs for different OSes. Still, keeping your system up-to-date and observing the freshly revived GLSA notifications is more likely to save your butt than clamav. Thanks guys, good points. The USB vector reminds me of stuxnet, although this I understand was designed to infect Iranian MSWindows boxen. Anyway, the use case in point is to protect other MSWindows OS' when sending/forwarding office and pdf documents. So the user would like to be able to scan emails as they come in/sent out. Will clamav do this with KDE4? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
On 10/22/2011 06:40 PM, Mick wrote: [...] Anyway, the use case in point is to protect other MSWindows OS' when sending/forwarding office and pdf documents. So the user would like to be able to scan emails as they come in/sent out. Will clamav do this with KDE4? ClamVM has poor detection rates. You might want to look into AVG Free for Linux.
Re: [gentoo-user] Which desktop antivirus?
Mick wrote: Hi All, I'm asked for a desktop antivirus (the box is running KDE) but I have never used an antivirus on Linux. This page that I googled up shows a number of them: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ Meanwhile, portage only lists clamav under app-antivirus/. The machine in question is running kmail to receive/send messages from ISP mail servers and ssmtp to send log messages for relaying via said ISP. What have you tried and what would you recommend for such a desktop setup? I have to agree with most everyone else on this one. You don't really need a anit-virus software to protect yourself. I do think it is good that you want to protect others by catching them while on your machine and then you know not to spread them around to others who can be infected. I used to do this a long time ago but I have policies here about sending messages to others. Mostly, I don't do it unless I know it is virus free. If I get a video that is funny or something, I find it on youtube and just forward a link to that. I'm sure youtube checks its stuff to be sure it is clean. If you set up a process like this, you shouldn't spread anything but you do have to think before hitting forward too. I think people have figured out I don't forward just anything so I don't get a lot of junk anymore. I do agree on using AVG as someone else posted. I have that on my brothers XP box. He likes it better than Norton that he used to pay for. If you can get that running on Linux, then that would be great. Another pretty good one that I used to use was f-prot but I think AVG would be better still. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Issue 3 - CD Playing
On 10/22/11 04:14, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 01:19:15 Colleen Beamer wrote: This is solved. The solution came from posting to KDE forums. It was a configuration issue: In System Settings, I had to select Device Actions, Play Audio CD with KsCD, select Edit, select the devices property Available Content must equal Audio, choose Property Matchfor the parameter type, Optical Disk for the Device type, Available Content for the Value name and Equals Audio. That did the trick! Thanks for letting us know! I recall having problems in the past with kscd on a KDE desktop and I couldn't remember if I ever fixed it. Now I know how. ;-) I finally got mine to open too. I did a emerge -e world since I could tell it was just some dep that got missed. Anyway, is it just me or is KSCD just got plain ugly? Yeah, used to be much easier to use. Like I said in a previous post, I'm a bit anal and this bugged me 'cause I've always had it working before. For me, kaffeine works fine and I've discovered that I like it better than kscd anyway. Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why a manual dhcpcd eth0 is needed?
On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:13:53 -0400 Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/22/2011 02:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/22/2011 08:08 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, On a recent gentoo install using wicd for network configuration, no connection is established during boot. After logging in, I need to issue dhcpcd eth0 to obtain an IP address and access the internet via ethernet. I thought wicd would take care of that. I did not emerge dhcpcd, it was emerged as a dependency of wicd. What am I missing? I have wicd starting during the boot runlevel. You probably don't have a correct /etc/conf.d/net file. Try: modules=dhcpcd config_eth0=dhcp I have other gentoo laptops/machines and I typically leave this file empty. They all work with wicd in wired and wireless mode. Correct. wicd does not use /etc/conf.d/net at all, it has it's own mechanisms. /etc/conf.d/net is used by the Gentoo network scripts, an entirely different thing from wicd -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Which desktop antivirus?
On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 18:27:02 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, I'm asked for a desktop antivirus (the box is running KDE) but I have never used an antivirus on Linux. This page that I googled up shows a number of them: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ Meanwhile, portage only lists clamav under app-antivirus/. The machine in question is running kmail to receive/send messages from ISP mail servers and ssmtp to send log messages for relaying via said ISP. What have you tried and what would you recommend for such a desktop setup? I have to agree with most everyone else on this one. You don't really need a anit-virus software to protect yourself. I do think it is good that you want to protect others by catching them while on your machine and then you know not to spread them around to others who can be infected. I used to do this a long time ago but I have policies here about sending messages to others. Mostly, I don't do it unless I know it is virus free. If I get a video that is funny or something, I find it on youtube and just forward a link to that. I'm sure youtube checks its stuff to be sure it is clean. If you set up a process like this, you shouldn't spread anything but you do have to think before hitting forward too. I think people have figured out I don't forward just anything so I don't get a lot of junk anymore. I do agree on using AVG as someone else posted. I have that on my brothers XP box. He likes it better than Norton that he used to pay for. If you can get that running on Linux, then that would be great. Another pretty good one that I used to use was f-prot but I think AVG would be better still. Dale Is there an overlay that offers AVG or bitdefender? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Which desktop antivirus?
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 13:27, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, I'm asked for a desktop antivirus (the box is running KDE) but I have never used an antivirus on Linux. This page that I googled up shows a number of them: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ Meanwhile, portage only lists clamav under app-antivirus/. The machine in question is running kmail to receive/send messages from ISP mail servers and ssmtp to send log messages for relaying via said ISP. What have you tried and what would you recommend for such a desktop setup? I have to agree with most everyone else on this one. You don't really need a anit-virus software to protect yourself. I do think it is good that you want to protect others by catching them while on your machine and then you know not to spread them around to others who can be infected. I used to do this a long time ago but I have policies here about sending messages to others. Mostly, I don't do it unless I know it is virus free. If I get a video that is funny or something, I find it on youtube and just forward a link to that. I'm sure youtube checks its stuff to be sure it is clean. If you set up a process like this, you shouldn't spread anything but you do have to think before hitting forward too. I think people have figured out I don't forward just anything so I don't get a lot of junk anymore. I do agree on using AVG as someone else posted. I have that on my brothers XP box. He likes it better than Norton that he used to pay for. If you can get that running on Linux, then that would be great. Another pretty good one that I used to use was f-prot but I think AVG would be better still. Nod32 is nice, but you need to patch dazuko into your kernel for it to work in real-time.
Re: [gentoo-user] Which desktop antivirus?
Mick wrote: Is there an overlay that offers AVG or bitdefender? I found this: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/AVG_Anti-Virus There is a ebuild for it but it looks like it is not maintained. The last changelog was in 2008. It is here: http://gpo.zugaina.org/app-antivirus/avgfree Just to cover all the bases here, I have not followed the instructions or anything for either of those links so I can not say if it works or not. So, don't jump in if the water is to deep and you can't swim. o_O I can't swim either. Well, I swim like a lead ball is more like it. Even tho I don't use a AV tool, I do wish AVG was in portage. I know it works well on windoze and that says a lot. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Which desktop antivirus?
On Oct 23, 2011 12:32 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mick wrote: Hi All, I'm asked for a desktop antivirus (the box is running KDE) but I have never used an antivirus on Linux. This page that I googled up shows a number of them: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ Meanwhile, portage only lists clamav under app-antivirus/. The machine in question is running kmail to receive/send messages from ISP mail servers and ssmtp to send log messages for relaying via said ISP. What have you tried and what would you recommend for such a desktop setup? I have to agree with most everyone else on this one. You don't really need a anit-virus software to protect yourself. I do think it is good that you want to protect others by catching them while on your machine and then you know not to spread them around to others who can be infected. I used to do this a long time ago but I have policies here about sending messages to others. Mostly, I don't do it unless I know it is virus free. If I get a video that is funny or something, I find it on youtube and just forward a link to that. I'm sure youtube checks its stuff to be sure it is clean. If you set up a process like this, you shouldn't spread anything but you do have to think before hitting forward too. I think people have figured out I don't forward just anything so I don't get a lot of junk anymore. I do agree on using AVG as someone else posted. I have that on my brothers XP box. He likes it better than Norton that he used to pay for. If you can get that running on Linux, then that would be great. Another pretty good one that I used to use was f-prot but I think AVG would be better still. I prefer Avast to AVG. It has versions for both Windows and Linux. Here's the link for the Linux version: http://www.avast.com/linux-home-edition#tab1 Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Issue 3 - CD Playing
Colleen Beamer wrote: On 10/22/11 04:14, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 01:19:15 Colleen Beamer wrote: This is solved. The solution came from posting to KDE forums. It was a configuration issue: In System Settings, I had to select Device Actions, Play Audio CD with KsCD, select Edit, select the devices property Available Content must equal Audio, choose Property Matchfor the parameter type, Optical Disk for the Device type, Available Content for the Value name and Equals Audio. That did the trick! Thanks for letting us know! I recall having problems in the past with kscd on a KDE desktop and I couldn't remember if I ever fixed it. Now I know how. ;-) I finally got mine to open too. I did a emerge -e world since I could tell it was just some dep that got missed. Anyway, is it just me or is KSCD just got plain ugly? Yeah, used to be much easier to use. Like I said in a previous post, I'm a bit anal and this bugged me 'cause I've always had it working before. For me, kaffeine works fine and I've discovered that I like it better than kscd anyway. Colleen I use smplayer for mine. It's nothing fancy but it plays music. I clicked on the pop up and tried to play a CD with amarock, (sp?), and I never could get it to even play the CD. It wanted to build some database or something. I'm in the mood to get rid of that thing. I'll check into this Kaffeine thing tho. Ma'am. tip hats Yea, I been in the garden so I'm wearing a hat today. Deer got into my greens. :-@ Electric fence or sling lead. They better pick the first one. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: There are literally *millions* of Windows viruses. I use Kaspersky in my Windows VMs. 6,028,900 virus signatures as of an update run 1 hour ago... 6,029,804 now... Go figure... - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Balky mounting of external devices
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:03:21 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: * Attach a device to the PC's USB port, and you'll see a bunch of stuff spewing out. In my case, the last 3 lines are... Oct 7 20:50:23 localhost kernel: [114416.426175] scsi 26:0:0:0: Direct-Access HTC Android Phone0100 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 Oct 7 20:50:23 localhost kernel: [114416.426336] sd 26:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 Oct 7 20:50:23 localhost kernel: [114416.432119] sd 26:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk * If I try mounting /dev/sdc1 (either as ordinary user or root), it's not found * fdisk -l doesn't even see /dev/sdc This came up recently with a different subject. Your device does not have a partition table, instead the filesystem occupies the whole device (sometimes referred to as a superfloppy format). There's nothing wrong with this, I have a couple of USB sticks like it, and my Nexus S is the same. Your automounter should still pick it up. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 33: American history signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:03:44 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ClamVM has poor detection rates. You might want to look into AVG Free for Linux. Do you have any documentation for this? I'm not saying you're wrong, rather that I'd like to know more. -- Neil Bothwick Assembler: (n.) a minor program of interest only to obsessed programmers. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
Am 22.10.2011 17:14, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 10/22/2011 05:07 PM, Adam Carter wrote: there aren't any Linux viruses, Except for the ones listed on the page below, which is probably incomplete. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware But yeah, on a linux desktop (especially a Gentoo one) you don't need a virus scanner. Yet. There are literally *millions* of Windows viruses. The Wikipedia page just proves Linux has virtually no viruses, and those listed don't even work anymore (exploits have been patched long ago.) Most existing Linux malware targets servers (like PHP software exploits in forums, wikis, etc) and desktop users don't need to worry. Furthermore, even if there were enough Linux viruses to worry about, there isn't a good way of getting infected. On Windows, you download random executables from the net. On Gentoo, you install your stuff through portage. It's nearly impossible to get infected. Unless you hijack one of the portage mirrors or stage a man-in-the-middle attack. Only a few manifest files in the official portage tree are signed with PGP and even there I don't think emerge checks the keys, only the normal hash keys. That is something that bugs me for ages. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Issue 3 - CD Playing
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 15:28, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Colleen Beamer wrote: On 10/22/11 04:14, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 01:19:15 Colleen Beamer wrote: This is solved. The solution came from posting to KDE forums. It was a configuration issue: In System Settings, I had to select Device Actions, Play Audio CD with KsCD, select Edit, select the devices property Available Content must equal Audio, choose Property Matchfor the parameter type, Optical Disk for the Device type, Available Content for the Value name and Equals Audio. That did the trick! Thanks for letting us know! I recall having problems in the past with kscd on a KDE desktop and I couldn't remember if I ever fixed it. Now I know how. ;-) I finally got mine to open too. I did a emerge -e world since I could tell it was just some dep that got missed. Anyway, is it just me or is KSCD just got plain ugly? Yeah, used to be much easier to use. Like I said in a previous post, I'm a bit anal and this bugged me 'cause I've always had it working before. For me, kaffeine works fine and I've discovered that I like it better than kscd anyway. Colleen I use smplayer for mine. It's nothing fancy but it plays music. I clicked on the pop up and tried to play a CD with amarock, (sp?), and I never could get it to even play the CD. It wanted to build some database or something. I'm in the mood to get rid of that thing. I'll check into this Kaffeine thing tho. amarok And why not just use mplayer? We're gentoo users, so it's expected that at least one xterm is active. So just ^+T (for +=shift) and run mplayer. Also, amarok segfaults on my box on startup. Couldn't be arsed to look at the backtrace.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
Am Samstag 22 Oktober 2011, 18:14:32 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 10/22/2011 05:07 PM, Adam Carter wrote: there aren't any Linux viruses, Except for the ones listed on the page below, which is probably incomplete. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware But yeah, on a linux desktop (especially a Gentoo one) you don't need a virus scanner. Yet. There are literally *millions* of Windows viruses. The Wikipedia page just proves Linux has virtually no viruses, and those listed don't even work anymore (exploits have been patched long ago.) Most existing Linux malware targets servers (like PHP software exploits in forums, wikis, etc) and desktop users don't need to worry. Furthermore, even if there were enough Linux viruses to worry about, there isn't a good way of getting infected. On Windows, you download random executables from the net. On Gentoo, you install your stuff through portage. It's nearly impossible to get infected. except when someone puts up or takes over a rsync server and starts providing malicious ebuilds. Hilarious. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why a manual dhcpcd eth0 is needed?
On 10/22/2011 02:18 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 10:13:53 -0400 Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/22/2011 02:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/22/2011 08:08 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, On a recent gentoo install using wicd for network configuration, no connection is established during boot. After logging in, I need to issue dhcpcd eth0 to obtain an IP address and access the internet via ethernet. I thought wicd would take care of that. I did not emerge dhcpcd, it was emerged as a dependency of wicd. What am I missing? I have wicd starting during the boot runlevel. You probably don't have a correct /etc/conf.d/net file. Try: modules=dhcpcd config_eth0=dhcp I have other gentoo laptops/machines and I typically leave this file empty. They all work with wicd in wired and wireless mode. Correct. wicd does not use /etc/conf.d/net at all, it has it's own mechanisms. /etc/conf.d/net is used by the Gentoo network scripts, an entirely different thing from wicd Any inputs on why I need to issue dhcpcd eth0 for this particular install. The ethernet card is Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe. I have the right driver built into the kernel. All works but as I said, wicd does work from boot. After logging in I need to get an IP address manually. Don't know what I am missing. Thanks, -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] Issue 3 - CD Playing
On 10/22/11 15:28, Dale wrote: Colleen Beamer wrote: On 10/22/11 04:14, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Saturday 22 Oct 2011 01:19:15 Colleen Beamer wrote: This is solved. The solution came from posting to KDE forums. It was a configuration issue: In System Settings, I had to select Device Actions, Play Audio CD with KsCD, select Edit, select the devices property Available Content must equal Audio, choose Property Matchfor the parameter type, Optical Disk for the Device type, Available Content for the Value name and Equals Audio. That did the trick! Thanks for letting us know! I recall having problems in the past with kscd on a KDE desktop and I couldn't remember if I ever fixed it. Now I know how. ;-) I finally got mine to open too. I did a emerge -e world since I could tell it was just some dep that got missed. Anyway, is it just me or is KSCD just got plain ugly? Yeah, used to be much easier to use. Like I said in a previous post, I'm a bit anal and this bugged me 'cause I've always had it working before. For me, kaffeine works fine and I've discovered that I like it better than kscd anyway. Colleen I use smplayer for mine. It's nothing fancy but it plays music. I clicked on the pop up and tried to play a CD with amarock, (sp?), and I never could get it to even play the CD. It wanted to build some database or something. I'm in the mood to get rid of that thing. I use amarok, but not for playing CD's. I use it as a jukebox ... yes, I know KDE offers juk, but I like amarok better. Amarok is great for that purpose. Be kind to those deers, Dale. It's getting close to winter and they're hungry! :-) Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Issue 3 - CD Playing
Colleen Beamer wrote: I use amarok, but not for playing CD's. I use it as a jukebox ... yes, I know KDE offers juk, but I like amarok better. Amarok is great for that purpose. Be kind to those deers, Dale. It's getting close to winter and they're hungry! :-) Colleen I guess if I had a bunch of music then I would see the need but I only have a few CDs. When they started suing Grandma and little kids, I stopped buying and canceled my membership. I'm thinking about starting again tho. Maybe. Youtube works pretty well tho. If those deer ain't careful, they will be the ones getting eat. I like cows, pigs and chickens but deer will fit in the skillet too. :/ Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] webalizer broke: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file
After updating world, webalizer fails like this: webalizer: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory revdep-rebuild wants to emerge webalizer but it fails with: configure: error: GeoIP library not found... please install GeoIP. geoip emerges fine. Does anyone know how to fix this? - Grant Install libpng-1.2, libpng 1.2 and 1.5 can co-exist. Thank you. I did that and webalizer now runs without error, but re-emerging webalizer still fails with: configure: error: GeoIP library not found... please install GeoIP. Actually, the ~amd64 version of webalizer emerges fine. - Grant Sorry, one more note. I noticed this at the end of the webalizer emerge output: * Running /usr/sbin/webapp-cleaner -p -C /webalizer /usr/sbin/webapp-cleaner: line 14: /sbin/functions.sh: No such file or directory * Nothing to clean Do I need to fix that? - Grant Can you try a newer version of app-admin/webapp-config? I did that and now I get: * vhosts USE flag not set - auto-installing using webapp-config * This is a re-installation * webalizer-2.21.02 is already installed - replacing * Running /usr/sbin/webapp-config -I -h localhost -u root -d /webalizer webalizer 2.21.02 * Fatal error: Package webalizer-2.21.02 is already installed here. * Fatal error: Use webapp-config -C to uninstall it first. * Fatal error: Install directory already contains a web application! * Fatal error(s) - aborting I don't have a good understanding of how webapp-config works. Is this sort of output to be expected whenever re-emerging a webapp package? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended printer?
Cheapest laser you can find at Office Depot tends to be a Brother. I've got two...an HL-2040 and an HL-2140. Both work perfectly with CUPS. +1. Every Brother laser printer I've tried works perfectly. I don't even bother with linuxprinting.org any more. When I wear one laser printer out, I just buy the latest Brother. - Grant On Oct 20, 2011 8:35 PM, Michael J. Barillier blackw...@blackwolfinfosys.net wrote: I've wasted enough time beating on my current boat anchor of a printer hoping it'll start working. linuxprinting.org is currently offline, so in the meantime does anyone have a suggestion for an inexpensive printer that is known to work with cupsd and Gentoo?
Re: [gentoo-user] Issue 3 - CD Playing
Andrey Moshbear wrote: amarok And why not just use mplayer? We're gentoo users, so it's expected that at least one xterm is active. So just ^+T (for +=shift) and run mplayer. Also, amarok segfaults on my box on startup. Couldn't be arsed to look at the backtrace. I guess it is just a personal preference. I tried Kmplayer but didn't like it much and was having issues with it so I tried smplayer and it has yet to fail me. It works so sort of tend to stick with what works for me. I sort of like GUI stuff when possible. Point and click works. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended printer?
Grant wrote: Cheapest laser you can find at Office Depot tends to be a Brother. I've got two...an HL-2040 and an HL-2140. Both work perfectly with CUPS. +1. Every Brother laser printer I've tried works perfectly. I don't even bother with linuxprinting.org any more. When I wear one laser printer out, I just buy the latest Brother. - Grant I used to work for a computer place and we sold and serviced Brother stuff. They were well made back then. I haven't used one in a long while but it sounds like they still make good stuff. I always liked that they had metal gears and stuff when everyone else had went to plastic. Epsons were good at going with plastic, even on their higher end stuff. They would strip out regular too. Get a good paper jam, you need a set of gears. My fav was the Genicom line printer tho. We had several 4440s and they were blazingly fast. A case of paper was like pouring water out of a jug. o_O Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Superfloppy (was Re: Balky mounting of external devices )
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: (sometimes referred to as a superfloppy format) I've never heard a whole-device filesystem called a superfloppy format. I've used the 'superfloppy' command to get about 1.8MB from 1.44MB floppy disks, though. Never got my hands on a 2.88MB drive and set of disks, though; it would have been fun to see how much uncompressed data I could stuff into one. -- :wq
[gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Balky mounting of external devices
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 09:21:50PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote This came up recently with a different subject. Your device does not have a partition table, instead the filesystem occupies the whole device (sometimes referred to as a superfloppy format). There's nothing wrong with this, I have a couple of USB sticks like it, and my Nexus S is the same. Your automounter should still pick it up. I don't use an automounter. I like to be in control of what gets mounted when. Thanks for the explanation. With it in mind I've finally come up with a plan that works. In /etc/sudoers.d/001 I've included... waltdnesi3 = (root) NOPASSWD: /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sdc And there's an entry for a vfat device in /etc/fstab for directory /mnt/extc. The command /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sdc seems to read in the partition table into the system and things work from there on in. fdisk only works as root, hence the sudo command. Here's a sample session... === waltdnes@i3 ~ $ mount /mnt/extc mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist waltdnes@i3 ~ $ sudo /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sdc Disk /dev/sdc: 16.0 GB, 16012804096 bytes 256 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1939 cylinders, total 31275008 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 *20483127500715636480c W95 FAT32 (LBA) waltdnes@i3 ~ $ mount /mnt/extc waltdnes@i3 ~ $ === The mount after sudo /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sdc is successful. So all I need is a short script ~/bin/mntc like so... #!/bin/bash sudo /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sdc mount /mnt/extc -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which desktop antivirus?
Furthermore, even if there were enough Linux viruses to worry about, there isn't a good way of getting infected. On Windows, you download random executables from the net. On Gentoo, you install your stuff through portage. It's nearly impossible to get infected. except when someone puts up or takes over a rsync server and starts providing malicious ebuilds. And most malware runs an exploit to install itself, it doesn't require the user to run an installation program. So typical attack vectors are: network services, documents/media files (.pdfs flash etc), and all the usual web stuff. As stated earlier buffer overflows against Gentoo would be a nightmare to write due to the system variabilityRHEL not so much.
[gentoo-user] How to install music player without graphic ?
I added USE=-KDE to /etc/make.conf , but when I use emerge like below : # sudo emerge mplayer OR #sudo emerge amorok I found that the emerge always download something which contact with X11/lib . I don't know why the USE I set have no effect. I only want to listem music under console , no more fuither , so how to figure this out ?
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install music player without graphic ?
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:05:57 PM Lavender wrote: I added USE=-KDE to /etc/make.conf , but when I use emerge like below : # sudo emerge mplayer OR #sudo emerge amorok I found that the emerge always download something which contact with X11/lib . I don't know why the USE I set have no effect. I only want to listem music under console , no more fuither , so how to figure this out ? Try installing mpg123 -- Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC.http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. Then, when you do, you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their shoes.
Re:Re: [gentoo-user] How to install music player without graphic ?
Try installing mpg123 Ha, I think I'd better solve this problem first Thank you all the same :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: How to install music player without graphic ?
On 10/23/2011 07:05 AM, Lavender wrote: I added USE=-KDE to /etc/make.conf , but when I use emerge like below : # sudo emerge mplayer OR #sudo emerge amorok I found that the emerge always download something which contact with X11/lib . I don't know why the USE I set have no effect. Well, these are X applications (and Amarok is a KDE application.) Obviously they need X to work. USE flags are there to configure *optional* dependencies and behaviors. For mplayer and Amarok, these dependencies are not optional. As others mentioned, you should install a command line player. There are a few. mpg123 is not really a media player though. You might want to look at this: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/04/several-powerful-console-music-players.html
Re:[gentoo-user] Re: How to install music player without graphic ?
Well, these are X applications (and Amarok is a KDE application.) Obviously they need X to work. USE flags are there to configure *optional* dependencies and behaviors. For mplayer and Amarok, these dependencies are not optional. As others mentioned, you should install a command line player. There are a few. mpg123 is not really a media player though. You might want to look at this: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/04/several-powerful-console-music-players.html Thank you ! No wonder it didn't work . Maybe I indeed need to install a KDE desktop .
Re:[gentoo-user] Re: How to install music player without graphic ?
Well, these are X applications (and Amarok is a KDE application.) Obviously they need X to work. USE flags are there to configure *optional* dependencies and behaviors. For mplayer and Amarok, these dependencies are not optional. As others mentioned, you should install a command line player. There are a few. mpg123 is not really a media player though. You might want to look at this: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/04/several-powerful-console-music-players.html Wait ! I remember once when I used Federa , I also installed mplayer from source code . Mplayer afforded an option looked like --without-graphic , Then I could use mplayer under console and it didn't contact with graphical desktop. It seems that documentation about mplayer is needed .
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to install music player without graphic ?
On Sunday 10/23/11 13:31:13 CST, Lavender wrote: Well, these are X applications (and Amarok is a KDE application.) Obviously they need X to work. USE flags are there to configure *optional* dependencies and behaviors. For mplayer and Amarok, these dependencies are not optional. As others mentioned, you should install a command line player. There are a few. mpg123 is not really a media player though. You might want to look at this: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/04/ several-powerful-console-music-players.html Wait ! I remember once when I used Federa , I also installed mplayer from source code . Mplayer afforded an option looked like --without-graphic , Then I could use mplayer under console and it didn't contact with graphical desktop. It seems that documentation about mplayer is needed . You can use mplayer -vo fbdev to play videos under console, but you should have framebuffer enabled in kernel and use flag fbcon enabled. -- oooO: (..): :\.(:::Oooo:: ::\_)::(..):: :::)./::: ::(_/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
