snip of response from Mike Schwab
ML2 is relying on tape drive hardware compress and shows the full size
of the data set.
Thank You Mike for your response. It clarifies what I am seeing.
Sincerely;
Ken Kripke
kkri...@mindspring.com
If it is any consolation: I am using the output from dcollect migratedata for
accounting. I am using the field umallsp. Our 'accounting' is done in 'number
of tapes', so I have the (dis)pleasure of trying to compute the number of tapes
a dataset (single file, single-file-multi-volume,
You can do that with our other product (SyzSPOOL), but it's not really the same
thing, we wanted to (and did) put together an easy to read synopsis of what the
task did. Also, there are some tasks that don't have JOBLOGs, but still
require notification when/if they come down. The product is
John,
I think I would go with the UNIX route that you wanted in the first place. The
people at your site are going to have to deal with UNIX at some point. z/OS
keeps moving more and more to offloading a lot of functionality to the USS
component, so the sooner they learn to deal with it the
Hi,
That's a good idea, but SysREXX can't get to the job's control blocks by the
time the ended message comes out, many of them are already gone and/or (even
worse) in the process of being freed. I originally implemented it as a
SysREXX, but was limited to just the MAXCC, none of the
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After activting z/OS V1.12 RSU1106, an STC started to loop every now and
then. It turned out there was a bug in our assembler code reading data
set entries from the catalog using IGGCSI00. The code did not correctly
handle the case when IGGCSI00 marked an entry in the workarea to be
in error.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
--snip
In my 20 plus year career I have seen a lot more people with mainframe
backgrounds expressing a
Hi listers,
This morning I encountered with a DFSMSdss mistery, and is next:
I delete files in a batch process through ADDRSU utility, the syntax
follows:
//CLEANUP0 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//OUTDDDD DUMMY
//SYSINDD *
DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(HLQ.Q1.Q2.Q3.**)) -
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown
Just to be my usual self. In general in CS, reentrant does not mean
non-self modifying. Many programs which do not modify themselves are
still not reentrant due to uncoordinated updating of shared
I have a batch program (A) that is re-entrant. However, statically linked
to it is a program (B) that is not re-entrant.
I thought that in this situation, the entire load module would be marked
non-reentrant by the linkage editor and treated as such during
execution; e.g., a new copy
Answered in the Wikipedia article.
quote
Relation to thread safety
It must not be confused with thread-safe. A function can be thread-safe and
still not reentrant. For example, a function could be wrapped all around with a
mutex which avoids problems in multi-threading environments, and if that
Hi Alan,
It is possible that looking at the source code of some programs I wrote
recently to allow 3,000 character parameter fields, and to create
control cars with Symbolic Parameters inserted might be of interest.
The LONGPARM program uses the same ATTACH that the next generation of
JCL
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:50:21 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
Well... I don't know, but I speculate that the failure to load most
REFR modules into store-protected storage in the early days was an
attempt to avoid providing an easy to use mechanism for unauthorized
programs to put arbitrary data into
Does 'ONTOP' have some historical significance? If not, what is your speculation
as to its meaning? Is it a 'joke' name for a HLQ? Like, I'll get right on top
of that!
IBM Update 7/19/11 4:54 PM
Untersed data now available on MCEVS1-System :
Hilario G. at IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on
07/18/2011 05:18:02 AM:
I need to obtain an output file of 300 bytes from two differents files:
- FILE1 with a lenght of 80
- FILE2 with a lenght of 300
I need to merge both files, first FILE1 and after FILE2.
I have
(SDB - System Determined Blocksize)
I just coded LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0,BLKSZLIM=2G on MDL tape device in 3590
mode.
I noticed something strange for me: SDB was 229360B, but it's NOT the
largest block available! The device also accepted BLKSIZE=262080 (the
largest multiple of 80 less than
I checked it out. Japan is way out in front of the rest of the pack with an
8.0 petaflop system. In second place is China with a 2.6 PF system. The USA's
top winner puts out only 1.75 PF, yet the article states The U.S. is tops in
petaflop/s with five systems performing at that level; Japan
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:53:36 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
Does 'ONTOP' have some historical significance? If not, what is your
speculation
as to its meaning? Is it a 'joke' name for a HLQ? Like, I'll get right on top
of that!
GA22-7501-14z/OS Hot Topics issue 24:
ONTOP: In Europe, you can
Hello:
The manual 'z/OS V1R12.0 MVS Assembler Services Guide' has this statement: The
case where an SDWA is not provided
is rare.
Is there a way to force this kind of condition in order to actually test an
ESTAE that is tripped with this condition?
Thank you.
Paul
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Paul Schuster pgs4ibmm...@pacbell.netwrote:
Hello:
The manual 'z/OS V1R12.0 MVS Assembler Services Guide' has this statement:
The case where an SDWA is not provided
is rare.
Is there a way to force this kind of condition in order to actually test an
ESTAE
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:15:31 -0500, Norbert Friemel wrote:
GA22-7501-14 z/OS Hot Topics issue 24:
Sorry, it's issue 18 (Feb. 2008)
Norbert Friemel
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On 7/20/2011 7:15 AM, Norbert Friemel wrote:
GA22-7501-14z/OS Hot Topics issue 24:
ONTOP: In Europe, you can allow IBM Support to analyze your dumps remotely through
On-line Technical Operation (ONTOP), a TCP/IP-based application.
Great info. Thanks!
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Phoenix Software
Temporarily, on entry to your ESTAE routine put 12 in R0 to simulate the
situation without actually having it occur.
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That's a whollottaflops...
and a whole lot of sparcs ... regardless of what sun/oracle is doing.
recent comment (in linkedin) thread that possibly a blade
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:30:01 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote:
After activting z/OS V1.12 RSU1106, an STC started to loop every now and
then. It turned out there was a bug in our assembler code reading data
set entries from the catalog using IGGCSI00. The
On 7/20/2011 7:18 AM, Paul Schuster wrote:
The manual 'z/OS V1R12.0 MVS Assembler Services Guide' has this statement: The
case where an SDWA is not provided
is rare.
Is there a way to force this kind of condition in order to actually test an
ESTAE that is tripped with this condition?
Our
Or you could force a normal ABEND of some kind and address stop with a
tracing/debugging system, such as XDC, on the first instruction in your ESTAE
routine. Then alter the contents of R0 so that your test for no SDWA will be
successful and see if your code to handle that condition
Sir,
Forgive me for asking, but is there a real reason that
people want IBM to do their dump analysis for them ??.
Kind Regards
Jim Thomas
617-233-4130 (mobile)
636-294-1014(res)
j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)
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From: IBM Mainframe
I use a different approach. In the interest of First Failure Data Capture, I
obtain four storage cushions, above and below the line, and in high and low
private, and release them on entry to ESTAE. This allows for all normal LOGREC
recording, taking an SDUMP, etc., even if there was a storage
Sir,
I agree that in 'some' cases the SDWA address is not
provided but I don't think (or didn't know) that it was
rare.
IMHO, the only times I have not had an SDWA is when my
storage has been chewed down ... IOW, I don't have enough
storage. Given that scenario, I'd highly recommend against
On 7/20/2011 7:46 AM, Jim Thomas wrote:
Forgive me for asking, but is there a real reason that
people want IBM to do their dump analysis for them ??.
We send dumps to IBM so they can resolve bugs in their software that negatively
impact our operations. Personally, I would help analyze their
You are already paying for this support, and it is usually much less expensive
than trying to do it yourself even if you had the resources (training, code
listings, doc, etc).
More, diagnosis is usually much faster if the person is very familiar with the
code.
So, why not?
-Original
Folks,
Does anybody have or know where I can get our old MVS (and JES)
logic manuals ??.
If somebody has them and wants to sell it, I'd gladly pay for it,
else, if somebody has them and just wants to send me copies, I'll
pay for that too... if you have them on fiche .. that is fine too.
I
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:24:35 -0500, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
The new listserv. Fonts, layout, etc. Yuk. :(
Does Reply To the Poster work? I get no confirmation when I click
send. I'm trying to reply to one of my own messages as a test.
-- gil
Okay ... explanation accepted ...
Thank you.
Kind Regards
Jim Thomas
617-233-4130 (mobile)
636-294-1014(res)
j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Hal Merritt
Sir,
Forgive me, my previous post was (in all honesty) directed
at people (and companies) that do not know how to read a
dump and or will not let their employees learn.
Kind Regards
Jim Thomas
617-233-4130 (mobile)
636-294-1014(res)
j...@thethomasresidence.us
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas
Sir,
Forgive me for asking, but is there a real reason that
people want IBM to do their dump analysis for them ??.
Sure... We pay IBM for software defect support, and IBM no longer
furnishes source
As the issue has been pretty much addressed, I just wanted to add that in
addition to TMSCOPY to backup the TMC/AUDIT files, there should be at least a
daily execution of maintenance utilities like TMSCTLG, TMSEXPDT, TMSCYCLE and
TMSCLEAN. This will ensure that volumes which should be expiring
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:59:07 -0700 Starr, Alan alan_st...@calpers.ca.gov
wrote:
:The subject of an APF-authorized program invoking a program that runs
non-APF-authorized has been discussed many times here. The admonishment not to
turn JSCBAUTH on, after having turned it off, has been repeated
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:37:40 -0400 Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote:
:My understanding was that the EUT bit in PSA was added because the FRR
:stack
:was not saved. Perhaps it was not saved in EUT mode and the bit caused
:even
:EUT's to have their FRR stack saved?
:You had mentioned in an
On 7/20/2011 9:34 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:50:21 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
Well... I don't know, but I speculate that the failure to load most
REFR modules into store-protected storage in the early days was an
attempt to avoid providing an easy to use mechanism for
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 07/20/2011
10:18:06 AM:
The manual 'z/OS V1R12.0 MVS Assembler Services Guide' has this
statement: The case where an SDWA is not provided
is rare.
Is there a way to force this kind of condition in order to actually
test an
Worth noting explicitly is that the CICS alternatives are
o THREADSAFE and
o QUASIRENT.
Long before IBM COBOL compilers could generate reentrant code COBOL was made
usable for CICS APs by trickery. The pointer to working storage--There was as
yet no stack-based local storage, and COBOL
--snip---
Please forgive me ... but I simply could not resist.
Do porcupines do 'it' ?? ... really ??.
---unsnip-
YES With great care!! :-)
Rick
Sir,
True, but is not so much fun to call IBM and say ..
Heyy .. here's your problem .. now fix it .. :-)
Kind Regards
Jim Thomas
617-233-4130 (mobile)
636-294-1014(res)
j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)
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From: IBM Mainframe
Frank,
Good info, thanks. One of the issues with the graying of the MF workforce is
that this type of information is lost.
I would suggest that it would be either trainers friend or CA give training
class say once a year in TMS internals. Steve are you listening?
Ed
Sent from my iPad
On
After dis-assembling IEFIIC, analyzing several dumps and doing quite a bit of
reading, I was able to piece together a scenario that I believe to be
reasonable.
Among other things, I was able to confirm that the admonition to refrain from
resetting JSCBAUTH after turning it off has no
Hi listers,
This morning I encountered with a DFSMSdss mistery, and is next:
I delete files in a batch process through ADDRSU utility, the syntax
follows:
//CLEANUP0 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//OUTDDDD DUMMY
//SYSINDD *
DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(HLQ.Q1.Q2.Q3.**)) -
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Ed Gould
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:56 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: CA-1 TMS QUESTION - IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED
Frank,
Good info, thanks. One of the issues with the
Alvaro,
The first thing that occurs to me is that MV6X.QTTOOL.BAT1WORK.BACKUP.UNLOAD
was in use (i.e. ENQueued) at the time that DF/dss tried to delete it.
To confirm, retry the failing job and immediately afterwards try renaming it
from ISPF DSLIST (option 3.4) by typing the R line command to
Hi Alan,
I tried with the same file deleted and allocated and fails again, the second
test that I do with one more qualifier is with a new file allocated in the
same catalog, I don't try to unlock it but it would cause another problems,
in other hand, there were any RACF message.
I don't
This is actually a crucial and timely topic. To paraphrase Bob Rogers, How
do you do what you do when you're a sysprog? Back in the day when we had
access to IBM source code, when there was not much of a Support Center in
place, on-site dump shooting was a valuable skill. If sysprogs couldn't
Tapes are pretty linear. The larger the blocksize, the fewer the
blocks to write. And each block has a bit of overhead to it.
2011/7/20 R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl:
(SDB - System Determined Blocksize)
I just coded LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0,BLKSZLIM=2G on MDL tape device in 3590 mode.
I
Now we have no source, but we have a
powerful support mechanism in place, and the situation has (at least
somewhat) reversed. The skills now are in collecting appropriate doc,
getting it to IBM quickly, and supplying other relevant information to
Level 2 clearly and factually. Not just anyone can
The skills now
are in collecting appropriate doc, getting it to IBM quickly, and
supplying other relevant information to Level 2 clearly and
factually. Not just anyone can do that.
Hmmm - IBM seem to be trying to convince the world that just anyone
with z/OSMF will be able to do that, and
http://www.bitsavers.org/ could be the best place to find them. And
if you have any, they would like to receive lossless scans 400 DPI or
higher of manuals that they do not have. There are volunteers who
would receive and scan manuals for bitsavers.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Jim Thomas
LMAO !! ... please forgive me Ma'am, ... I do like you and yes,
agree with you wholeheartedly !!.
I had a former post, to JC I believe, and this is what I'd meant,
To me, it's so gratifying to call IBM and say .. nope .. don't need
your help ... but you need mind ... here is where the problem
Thank you kind Sir.
Kind Regards
Jim Thomas
617-233-4130 (mobile)
636-294-1014(res)
j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
Of Mike Schwab
Sent: Wednesday, July 20,
http://www.bitsavers.org/ could be the best place to find them. And
if you have any, they would like to receive lossless scans 400 DPI or
higher of manuals that they do not have. There are volunteers who
would receive and scan manuals for bitsavers.
Yes, I am one of those volunteers that
Thank You Kind Sir,
I do not know about anybody else but, aside from my passion,
you've also depicted my interests and foray.
I will withhold my remarks and experiences with both, IBM Lv1
and Lv2 for the moment. :-)
Kind Regards
Jim Thomas
617-233-4130 (mobile)
636-294-1014
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
On 7/20/2011 7:46 AM, Jim Thomas wrote:
Forgive me for asking, but is there a real reason that
people want IBM to do their dump analysis for them ??.
We send dumps to IBM so they can resolve bugs in their
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