[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-12-02 Thread Roman Turovsky
The overall incidence of Polycythemia Vera in the Minnesota population is 1.9 per 100,000 person-years. Nowhere near the incidence of lutenism. RT On 12/1/2012 10:47 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: On 12/1/2012 7:20 PM, Edward Martin wrote: Blood letting? It still works as the primary therapy for

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-12-01 Thread William Samson
: Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2012, 5:15 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room 'I'm not too familiar with Gamut's terminology. I know that Mace

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-12-01 Thread Stephan Olbertz
: Saturday, 1 December 2012, 5:15 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room 'I'm not too familiar with Gamut's terminology. I know that Mace describes pistoys as none other than thick Venice-Catlins, which are commonly dyed, with a deep dark red colour

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-12-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Mimmo Peruffo (Aquila strings) and Nicholas Baldock have done work on softer strings. MH --- On Fri, 30/11/12, William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Gut strings - The elephant in the room To: Lute List

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-12-01 Thread Edward Martin
Blood letting? It still works as the primary therapy for Polycythemia Vera. ed At 12:00 PM 12/1/2012, Dan Winheld wrote: On 12/1/2012 5:07 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: On 12/1/2012 3:30 AM, William Samson wrote: After all, what we are seeking is true authenticity (aren't we?) rather than a

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-12-01 Thread Dan Winheld
On 12/1/2012 7:20 PM, Edward Martin wrote: Blood letting? It still works as the primary therapy for Polycythemia Vera. Kindly translate for us layluters, please- is it worse than Lachrimae Vera? ed At 12:00 PM 12/1/2012, Dan Winheld wrote: On 12/1/2012 5:07 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: On

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-12-01 Thread Edward Martin
Much worse. It is a condition where the body makes too many red cells, and the treatment is to remove blood periodically. Otherwise, many complications. It is the only condition that I know of, where actual blood-letting is an accepted, effective treatment. Those authentic barbers from the

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-11-30 Thread Dan Winheld
Bill- In fact, some of the string makers are well aware of the stiffness factor; and have been trying to cope with it, and are coming up with increasingly flexible bass (where of course it matters most) strings. I have recently been able to go to an all gut Pistoy of Dan Larson for the 8th

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-11-30 Thread William Samson
, 19:10 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room Bill- In fact, some of the string makers are well aware of the stiffness factor; and have been trying to cope with it, and are coming up with increasingly flexible bass (where of course it matters most) strings. I have

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-11-30 Thread Edward Martin
...@lmi.net To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012, 19:10 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room Bill- In fact, some of the string makers are well aware of the stiffness factor

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-11-30 Thread David van Ooijen
November 2012, 19:10 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room Bill- In fact, some of the string makers are well aware of the stiffness factor; and have been trying to cope with it, and are coming up with increasingly flexible bass (where of course it matters most

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room

2012-11-30 Thread Dan Winheld
progressing. Bill From: Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012, 19:10 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - The elephant in the room Bill- In fact, some of the string makers

[LUTE] Re: gut strings in Morocco

2011-11-21 Thread wikla
Bruno, this is great news! Arto On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:32:20 -0500, Bruno Fournier br...@estavel.org wrote: Dear lutenetters of America, A I have found out throught the french lutenet, that gut strings are still being made in Morocco: A

[LUTE] Re: gut strings in Morocco

2011-11-21 Thread David van Ooijen
On their website they say they make a limited number of gauges only. If you buy sets from them, they add Kuerschner, Kathedrale or Aquila (!?). They don't make 0.40mm. Pity, but they might be coaxed into expanding their business? David David van Ooijen

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings: 2 online petitions

2011-11-20 Thread Anthony Hind
Anthony De : Edward Martin [2]e...@gamutstrings.com A : Anthony Hind [3]agno3ph...@yahoo.com Cc : [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoye le : Samedi 19 Novembre 2011 19h07 Objet : [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings Dear Anthony, Thank you

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-19 Thread Anthony Hind
A : Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com Envoye le : Vendredi 18 Novembre 2011 18h08 Objet : Re: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings I play lute music on a classical guitar. I've never played an instrument that was strung with gut. It's difficult to imagine how the strings are made. In what form

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-19 Thread Edward Martin
: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings Hi, Taco. Dan has a very cordial relationship with Mimmo. Although they might seem to be competitors, I do not believe there is any animosity between them, and neither party has suffered due to efforts of the other. Mimmo is also a friend of mine, as I

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-18 Thread Anthony Hind
...@science.uva.nl; Edward Martin [3]e...@gamutstrings.com Cc : [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoye le : Jeudi 17 Novembre 2011 1h04 Objet : [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings Hi, Taco. Dan has a very cordial relationship with Mimmo. Although they might seem

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-18 Thread Edward Mast
[3]e...@gamutstrings.com Cc : [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoye le : Jeudi 17 Novembre 2011 1h04 Objet : [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings Hi, Taco. Dan has a very cordial relationship with Mimmo. Although they might seem to be competitors, I do not believe there is any

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-18 Thread R. Mattes
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:11:01 -, Monica Hall wrote That must be why it develops a buzz in the summer which always disappears come September when the wasps swarm in this part of the world. If that's really the case you should consult an instrument maker. Such buzzes are a clear symptom og

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-18 Thread Monica Hall
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:11:01 -, Monica Hall wrote That must be why it develops a buzz in the summer which always disappears come September when the wasps swarm in this part of the world. If that's really the case you should consult an instrument maker. Such buzzes are a clear symptom og a

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread simon.lambert
Does anyone know if Kuerchner in Germany is still making gut strings? Or Kathedrale (?). Simon Lambert Oxford, England -- Scanned by iCritical. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Albert Reyerman
see here: http://www.kuerschner-saiten.de/english/start.php?spr=e TREE EDITION Albert Reyerman Finkenberg 89 23558 Luebeck Germany albertreyer...@kabelmail.de www.Tree-Edition.com ++49(0)451 899 78 48 More music books available at http://tree-edition.magix.net/public/ Am 17.11.2011 13:16,

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Albert Reyerman
see: http://www.kuerschner-saiten.de/english/start.php?spr=e TREE EDITION Albert Reyerman Finkenberg 89 23558 Luebeck Germany albertreyer...@kabelmail.de www.Tree-Edition.com ++49(0)451 899 78 48 More music books available at http://tree-edition.magix.net/public/ Am 17.11.2011 13:16,

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread bh
Does anyone know if Kuerchner in Germany is still making gut strings? Or Kathedrale (?). It is quite funny - and also a little bit alarming- to see, how the EU bureaucracy becames the projection area for the strangest ideas and fears. A reputation well earned, some may say, but

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Anthony Hind
. We should of course support any such action. Best wishes Anthony __ De : simon.lamb...@stfc.ac.uk simon.lamb...@stfc.ac.uk A : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoye le : Jeudi 17 Novembre 2011 13h16 Objet : [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Anthony Hind
A : simon.lamb...@stfc.ac.uk Cc : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoye le : Jeudi 17 Novembre 2011 15h00 Objet : [LUTE] Re: Gut strings Does anyone know if Kuerchner in Germany is still making gut strings? Or Kathedrale (?). It is quite funny - and also a little bit alarming- to see

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Bruno Fournier
Hi All,A One thing for sure, when I spoke to the Sofracob owner last year before he closed, he mentioned that one of the main reasons and problems, was the mad cow disease issues in France over the last few years, and that it was becoming more and more difficult to obtain gut. A So

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Francesco Tribioli
To: b...@symbol4.de Cc: simon.lamb...@stfc.ac.uk; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings Hi All,A One thing for sure, when I spoke to the Sofracob owner last year before he closed, he mentioned that one of the main reasons and problems, was the mad cow disease

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Anthony Hind
...@stfc.ac.uk; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoye le : Jeudi 17 Novembre 2011 15h39 Objet : [LUTE] Re: Gut strings Hi All,A One thing for sure, when I spoke to the Sofracob owner last year before he closed, he mentioned that one of the main reasons and problems

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Francesco Tribioli
...@symbol4.de Cc: simon.lamb...@stfc.ac.uk; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings Mimmo confirmed me a few days ago, when I phoned him, that the problem with Sofracob was indeed related with this EU law about gut. Then, as far as I know, it is the same company that sells gut stripes

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Monica Hall
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Bruno Fournier Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:39 PM To: b...@symbol4.de Cc: simon.lamb...@stfc.ac.uk; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings Hi All,A One thing for sure, when I spoke to the Sofracob owner last year before he closed, he

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Daniel Winheld
I have used .42 beef gut for the best trebles- for durability strength- from Toro, obtained through Universale- I got them directly from the Viola da Gamba builder Marco Ternovec of Belgium when he came to the Berkeley Early Music Festival Exhibition several years ago. If these strings are

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Taco Walstra
On 11/17/2011 05:32 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote: I have used .42 beef gut for the best trebles- for durability strength- from Toro, obtained through Universale- I got them directly from the Viola da Gamba builder Marco Ternovec of Belgium when he came to the Berkeley Early Music Festival

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Daniel Winheld
Another measure of far we have come, and still are- despite the recent ridiculous alarming developments- from the capricious perilous circumstances of yesteryear is to consider that Syvestro Ganassi in his mid-16th century treatise Regola Rubertino (mostly for the viols, some lute tab.)

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Craig Robert Pierpont
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings To: Francesco Tribioli tribi...@arcetri.astro.it Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, November 17, 2011, 9:39 AM Kuerschner - from the catalog they say: plain gut (polyester) so I wonder if those strings are gut or polyester

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Lex van Sante
...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings To: Francesco Tribioli tribi...@arcetri.astro.it Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, November 17, 2011, 9:39 AM Kuerschner - from the catalog they say: plain gut

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Lex van Sante
...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings To: Francesco Tribioli tribi...@arcetri.astro.it Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, November 17, 2011, 9:39 AM Kuerschner - from the catalog they say: plain gut

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Monica Hall
. Craig Craig R. Pierpont Another Era Lutherie www.anotherera.com --- On Thu, 11/17/11, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings To: Francesco Tribioli tribi...@arcetri.astro.it Cc: Lutelist lute

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Monica Hall
/17/11, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings To: Francesco Tribioli tribi...@arcetri.astro.it Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, November 17, 2011, 9:39 AM Kuerschner - from

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread howard posner
On Nov 17, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Monica Hall wrote: Light the end of one with a match. It will be obvious pretty quickly if they are gut or synthetic. My guitar didn't go up in smoke when I tried it so presumably they are genuine. Sigh of relief. I'm pretty sure that when he wrote,

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Monica Hall
Light the end of one with a match. It will be obvious pretty quickly if they are gut or synthetic. My guitar didn't go up in smoke when I tried it so presumably they are genuine. Sigh of relief. I'm pretty sure that when he wrote, Light the end one he meant the strings, not the

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Lutenists It does seem that Aquila has decided to stop gut string production, which is catastrophic for those of us who use loaded guts. There appears to have been but one remaining legal European source for gut, and EU laws are making even this problematic, and are

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread David van Ooijen
A very serious blow. How are other string makers affected? David On 15 November 2011 21:43, Orphenica wer...@orphenica.de wrote: Dear collective lute wisdom, is it true that the production of gut in Europe will be prohibited by European law? As stated on Aquila's web page the production of

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread research
Here is an interesting article: http://gamutmusic.squarespace.com/news/new-beef-gut-strings.html The beef gut comes from Ireland. Dear collective lute wisdom, is it true that the production of gut in Europe will be prohibited by European law? As stated on Aquila's web page the

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Hubert Kwisthout
the actual situation is? Any volunteers? Best wishes, Hubert Kwisthout -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Hind Sent: 16 November 2011 09:10 To: Orphenica; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Franz Mechsner
It seems fear of BSE transmission. F __ Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von Hubert Kwisthout Gesendet: Mi 16.11.2011 10:37 An: 'Anthony Hind'; 'Orphenica'; lute Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Luca Manassero
Dear List, as Mimmo explains in a video (unfortunately in Italian) on his facebook page, the original beef gut regulation in EU was due to fear of the so-called mad cow disease transmission. In the meantime thou we have discovered that this disease is NOT transmissible and

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread R. Mattes
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:08:14 +0100, Luca Manassero wrote Dear List, as Mimmo explains in a video (unfortunately in Italian) on his facebook page, the original beef gut regulation in EU was due to fear of the so-called mad cow disease transmission. Excuse my ignorance, but since

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Taco Walstra
On 11/16/2011 11:26 AM, R. Mattes wrote: Yes, I had exactly the same question. Apart from this: is gut not used in many medical situations to string people together after cutting by a surgeon for example, or is this perhaps done these days with other materials (nylgut? ;-) ) Taco On Wed, 16

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread David van Ooijen
Apart from this: is gut not used in many medical situations to string people together after cutting by a surgeon for example, or is this perhaps done these days with other materials (nylgut? ;-) ) Finally we found a good use for nylgut! (And a reason why we can choose different colours. ;-)

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
:27 An: lute list Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:08:14 +0100, Luca Manassero wrote Dear List, as Mimmo explains in a video (unfortunately in Italian) on his facebook page, the original beef gut regulation in EU was due to fear of the so-called mad cow

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Francesco Tribioli
. Francesco -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Taco Walstra Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:35 AM To: R. Mattes Cc: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings On 11/16/2011 11:26 AM, R. Mattes wrote: Yes, I

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread William Samson
November 2011, 11:46 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings Well, with sheep, prion disease is called scrapie, isn't it, and it was known long before mad cow disease turned up. Mathias -Urspruengliche Nachricht- Von: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Taco Walstra
On 11/16/2011 01:08 PM, William Samson wrote: So - I wonder how many people have actually contracted mad cow disease, scrapie, CJD or other related problems? Of them, I wonder how many caught it from the production processes for musical strings? That's my first question. My

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread A.J. Padilla MD
And the patients then emerge from surgery with their problems rectified. AJP -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Taco Walstra Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 5:35 AM To: R. Mattes Cc: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Edward Martin
Dan is in the UK at the moment, but I am unaware of any stoppage of gut string making from his shop. He has 4 employees making gut strings, and one is my daughter. I am aware of no lay-off plans. Dan does use beef gut for trebles, simply because they are better, stronger, longer lasting. ed

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread William Samson
: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings On 11/16/2011 11:26 AM, R. Mattes wrote: Yes, I had exactly the same question. Apart from this: is gut not used in many medical situations to string people together after cutting by a surgeon for example, or is this perhaps done

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Martin Eastwell
On 15/11/2011 20:43, Orphenica wer...@orphenica.de wrote: Dear collective lute wisdom, is it true that the production of gut in Europe will be prohibited by European law? As stated on Aquila's web page the production of gut strings and import of raw materials will be prohibited:

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Martin Eastwell
My apologies for my last (empty) message-I pressed the wrong button! It is certainly very bad news that Aquila has stopped gut string production. Mimmo certainly deserves our heartfelt thanks for his heroic researches, and I for one feel that the lute world in general could have been more

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Taco Walstra
On 11/16/2011 01:41 PM, Edward Martin wrote: Dan is in the UK at the moment, but I am unaware of any stoppage of gut string making from his shop. He has 4 employees making gut strings, and one is my daughter. I am aware of no lay-off plans. Dan does use beef gut for trebles, simply because

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Daniel Shoskes
We still use gut in the operating room, usually following treatment with chromic to slow the absorption by the body. I use chromic gut all the time. Mind you, I'm already banned from donating blood in the USA for life because I lived in the UK for 2 years. From the suture supplier

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Daniel Winheld
And fret gut? It is ironic that I can find acceptable synthetic string material, but so far not for frets. Nylon out of the question. Once I tried KFG, figuring that density was part of the problem- transmission of sound through to the neck (gut denser than nylon, KF KFG denser than gut;

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
, November 16, 2011 2:57 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings And fret gut? It is ironic that I can find acceptable synthetic string material, but so far not for frets. Nylon out of the question. Once I tried KFG, figuring that density was part of the problem- transmission of sound through

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
From: Martin Eastwell eastwe...@mac.com It is a major problem for anyone who wants to play on real lute strings (as opposed to just making a nice noise!). Are you implying that Barto makes a nice noise? RT To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Bruno Fournier
luckily I bought a supply of gut strings and fret gut from Sofracob, just as they closed, to last me the rest of my lifeor at least my playing life I am 53. A good luck to everyone in finding affordable gut.A Maybe the chinese will come up with something,A I'm sure

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Edward Martin
Hi, Taco. Dan has a very cordial relationship with Mimmo. Although they might seem to be competitors, I do not believe there is any animosity between them, and neither party has suffered due to efforts of the other. Mimmo is also a friend of mine, as I have (and continue to) advocate his

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-15 Thread William Samson
I can't see ANY music-loving nation putting up with this pompous stupidity (No - I checked - It's not April 1st). Haven't they got better things to do when the world, and particularly Europe is going down the tubes? Makes the rearranging of the deckchairs on the Titanic seem a

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2009-08-26 Thread demery
Do you who use gut trim it, leave it, or wind most of it on the pegs to keep things neater? Dont wind on the peg, minimize the windings to enough to hold well. Loose winding dont look much better than dangling hanks (which is what you should do initially). To many risks wedging up

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2009-08-26 Thread Nedmast2
Thanks, Dana. The reasons you mentioned are exactly the ones that occur to me for not winding more string than necessary on the pegs. I'll trim and save the trimmings that may be the right size for frets. (Though I'm beginning to think that frets will last a good deal longer than

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - Tennis-

2007-08-28 Thread Robert Clair
the rebound speed would be the same as the inbound speed no matter how long the collision took. Even if someone is swinging the racket (which is highly likely)? I was thinking of the case of an incompetent player (such as myself) who is just going to hold the racket up to the ball. Of

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - Tennis-

2007-08-28 Thread howard posner
On Aug 28, 2007, at 6:22 PM, Robert Clair wrote: A stretchier stringing (weaker spring constant) will take longer to slow the ball down and accelerate it back in the other direction but it won't affect the return speed. (Again, assuming it is mostly elastic which means it eventually returns

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2007-08-27 Thread Robert Clair
Since power for his purposes is nothing more than ball speed off the racket, any absorbtion of energy from the ball Right - any inelasticity in the collision (the missing energy going into heating up the racket, the ball and making satisfying thwock sounds) will reduce the rebound speed

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - Tennis-

2007-08-27 Thread howard posner
On Aug 27, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Robert Clair wrote: Wrong - if by delay you mean the time it takes for the ball to squish into the racket, reverse direction and come off. This time interval depends on the spring constant involved (essentially the elastic characteristics of the ball and the

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2007-08-26 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Ed, Martin, Daivid, Ariel, and all That was very much what I tried to say to Ariel, a little while ago. Thanks for being so much clearer than I was, Ed. May I tell you an anecdote, I don't really know how relevant this might be for lute playing, however, One of my friends,

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2007-08-26 Thread howard posner
On Aug 26, 2007, at 3:35 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: Initially, he was slightly disappointed, thinking his strokes were less powerful, but gradually he realized the racket absorbs the vibrations from the attacking ball far better. He reports there is almost a slight delay in rebound, between the

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2007-08-26 Thread Anthony Hind
Bernd Funny, my friend was playing in Britanny (on the Norther coast côte rose) and you can't get much more humid than that, especially this year. When I go there my hygrometer registers well above 60. The strings have lasted him the summer vacation. He was worrying more about the

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - Tennis-Lute loveALL

2007-08-26 Thread howard posner
On Aug 26, 2007, at 8:54 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: You may be right, about the speed (except pehaps the greater movement back gives greater power forward, I have no idea) , but more control, and subtlety is surely what we all want, wouldn’t you say? Not if you're playing continuo in an

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - Tennis-Lute loveALL

2007-08-26 Thread The Other
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gut... Good for Lute.Bad for tennis racket. In 1970, gut strung Poncho Gonzalez tennis racket (from Spaulding) in the rain... 10 minutes--severe fraying; 11 minutes--broken gut and match forfeit. (only had the 1 racket.) The Other. -BEGIN

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - Tennis-Lute loveALL

2007-08-26 Thread Anthony Hind
Well if you do insist on playing tennis with your theorbo, gut strung or otherwise … Le 26 août 07 à 19:57, howard posner a écrit : On Aug 26, 2007, at 8:54 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: You may be right, about the speed (except pehaps the greater movement back gives greater power forward, I

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
www.aquilacorde.com Phone +39 0444 986972 Fax +39 0444 989399 - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind To: Martyn Hodgson ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali' Martyn I just had a thought. If price

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2007-08-25 Thread Anthony Hind
0444 989399 - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind To: Martyn Hodgson ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali' Martyn I just had a thought. If price is your main concern, for whatever

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-25 Thread Anthony Hind
Fax +39 0444 989399 - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind To: Martyn Hodgson ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali' Martyn I just had a thought. If price is your main concern, for whatever

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2007-08-25 Thread Anthony Hind
- Original Message - From: Anthony Hind To: Martyn Hodgson ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: [LUTE] Rep : [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali' Le 25 aout 07 =E0 08:49, Martyn Hodgson a ecrit : Dear Anthony, I do, of course

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
_ Aquila Corde Armoniche S.a.s www.aquilacorde.com Phone +39 0444 986972 Fax +39 0444 989399 - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind To: Martyn Hodgson ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-25 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear All, My experiences with Sofracob gut are much the same as David's - fine for everything except a top string. I recently tried to order some fret gut from them and they wrote back to say that they no longer supply fret gut - dommage! Anyone know of a good source of fret gut? By the

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-25 Thread Anthony Hind
Glad to see you are back, Martin (perhaps you weren't away). The Purr'll strings are strong, but how do they sound? Regards Anthony Le 25 août 07 à 16:44, Martin Shepherd a écrit : Dear All, My experiences with Sofracob gut are much the same as David's - fine for everything except a top

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-25 Thread Edward Martin
Dear Martin, Best wishes to you... we have not corresponded for a while. I wholeheartedly agree on your statement about different string types requiring a different technique or playing style. I have not played wound strings in many years, but when I do play someone else's lute with wound

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-24 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Martyn I don't know whether they are similar to Aquila Venice which are a twine of two elements, and not a tress of three like Pistoys. This according to Mimmo Perfuffo results in a more flexible string; but I suppose flexibilty may not be everything. I found the Venice very

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Many thanks for this Anthony. My main motive for asking was the increasing cost of gut (especially fret gut oddly enough) and Universale's prices seemed very competitive - hence if their quality was OK then I'd order from them rather than MP or Sofracob or Kurschner or others. In

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-24 Thread Anthony Hind
Martyn I just had a thought. If price is your main concern, for whatever reason, you could look at Banjo strings. Martin Shepherd, I think, told me he sometimes uses Purr'll Gut Strings for his top string. Their prices look very cheap, but I don't know about the quality. Perhaps

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-24 Thread Anthony Hind
_ Aquila Corde Armoniche S.a.s www.aquilacorde.com Phone +39 0444 986972 Fax +39 0444 989399 - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind To: Martyn Hodgson ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-24 Thread Anthony Hind
www.aquilacorde.com Phone +39 0444 986972 Fax +39 0444 989399 - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind To: Martyn Hodgson ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali' Martyn I just had a thought. If price

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-24 Thread Leonard Williams
On 8/24/07 12:49 PM, Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martyn I just had a thought. If price is your main concern, for whatever reason, you could look at Banjo strings. Martin Shepherd, I think, told me he sometimes uses Purr'll Gut Strings for his top string. Their prices look very

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings - 'Universale corde musicali'

2007-08-24 Thread Edward Martin
Toyohiko gave me a .40 Universale string, but I have not yet tried it. He told me they are made from beef, and they are incredibly strong long lasting. He uses them as trebles. I was unaware that some were made from oxen. David states they are not as warm sounding as sheep gut. In terms

[LUTE] re gut strings

2007-02-08 Thread Anthony Hind
Andrew, Edward, Stephen and All I agree whole-heartedly with Edward's message, I am but an amateur, and in a way amateurs have an advantage over professionals. The difficulty with gut (as suggested by Ed.) is mainly when a large concert room fills up with people and the humidity

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2006-08-08 Thread Craig Allen
Rebecca wrote: I have done some research on the Internet and found AquilaU.S.A. makes gut and silk strings Isn't Dan Larson working on silk strings now? His latest addition to the world of gut strings was his Pistoy which I've heard many good things about. www.gamutstrings.com

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2006-08-08 Thread Paul Pleijsier
Never mind. Aquila's gut silk is a high tension set for modern guitars. Aquila won't make low tension silk strings. PP - Original Message - From: Rebecca Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:19 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2006-08-08 Thread Craig Allen
Dear Paul, I may be out of date then. I thought I remembered hearing something of this at the recent LSA festival but I may very well have been recalling an earlier mention. If anyone in the US is making silk strings it would likely be Dan since he's already in the string business. I've been

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2006-08-08 Thread Ron Andrico
@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:19 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Gut Strings August 7th, 2006 Dear Lutenists: I have done some research on the Internet and found AquilaU.S.A. makes gut and silk

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