or certain aspects of FreeCard, so if you're interested in one of these
parts, ask here and one of us who knows will answer.
If something isn't clear from the way it's stated on the web pages, ask
and we'll clarify it.
Cheers,
-- M. Ul
every half-baked programmer can do as well. This could be a value-added
service.
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for them and
everything'd be fine ... ?
Sounds a bit of a kludge, but since that code would mostly be
platform-specific anyway it should be easy. And the code that isn't
platform-specific would probably be FreeSript anyway, right ? Heh :-)
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o be proof
for Murphy's Law.
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be running on a box with the same linker? Wouldn't
the user have the choice between three or four linkers (not to mention
different revisions)?
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carefully or we'll have problems porting or would decrease
stability.
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cially as I
doubt all Unix or Linux computers have a compiler installed. I know most
Linuxes ship with one, but I'd guess the average SysAdmin in a company
would just leave it out to save disk space.
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!!! G
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ties are the way
to go. So you don't have just one container for the
stack ... you have as many containers as you want! And
no external files, no hidden parts, etc. Clean and
automatic. You gotta love it!
I do :-)
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I think we will need this for the editing environment (FreeUI,
which Eric is working on) anyway.
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fake controls) on platforms other than the MacOS.
However, I'm still looking into this and might find another solution to at
least support "skins" and such things correctly if it's possible.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
am is not restricted, and the output from the
Program is covered only if its contents constitute a work based on the
Program (independent of having been made by running the Program). Whether
that is true depends on what the Program does.
- end of snip -----
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I sent (which have new menus which work and
submenus which are skeletal because I have no license) that would be really
appreciated.
Although I got a full version of MC once, I doubt I'll be able to help
much with submenus -- my version is a pre-submenus variant of MetaCard :-(
Cheers,
-- M. Uli
ounter problems on SF.
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PS: Can't say that I'll miss them: maintaining the opencard list is
about an order of magnitude more trouble than the much larger xtalk
list because you all seem to move around so much more often.
Heh, heh :-) Poor dear Scott.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
l 'Late Show:Desktop
Folder:headerdoc:ExampleHeaders:CFArray.h'
And I didn't even get an error message this time...
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ons. That's why it's a problem with standalones but not with
stacks. Stacks are considered output here.
Cheers,
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work fine with Explorer?
Alain,
it's simple: Netscape does as it's supposed to and uses the MIME types to
identify files, why IE goes by the suffixes. The bug in Netscape fixes the
glitch in your server's MIME settings.
Cheers,
-- M. Ul
anything about Perl, and thus I'd like to ask whether we have
anyone here who is well versed in Perl and could take the time to download
HeaderDoc and MacPerl (http://www.macperl.com) and try to convince them to
like each other?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
if they
buy it.
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sure
people know about it. The URL to my 'inofficial' page is:
http://home.t-online.de/home/witness/freecard
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-- M. Uli Kusterer
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. Uli Kusterer
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author's part before we can release it
under another licence if that person doesn't agree.
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as already been compiled, and is thus a lot faster.
I hope this (simplified) example illustrates my reasons why I think the
current road we're taking is better than trying to jump on board Squeak.
Cheers,
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I have uploaded a snapshot of the Dave/HAL source code at
http://ufp.uqam.ca/opencard/Downloads/Uli/Dave_HAL_Snapshots/Dave_HAL.sit
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stdout - message box? Message box is probably a tad too small.
Bringing up a window for standard output/input could work, though.
MC has a multi-lined message box.
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a bit faster than CopyBits (e.g. if we can be sure
the palettes are the same, we can leave out the color palette conversion
code).
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If it's faster than ext2, everyone will g.
running away screaming g
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. Right now, I'm waiting for a phone call and trying to
stay off the modem.
Happy phoning!
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
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'The Witnesses of TeachText are everywhere...'
just making changes needs an administrator.
So, would we have any volunteers to become admins? Anthony and me would
have to or we wouldn't be able to upload source code. Anyone who'd like to
manage polls etc.?
Cheers,
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now what I should do in time.
3) A project name. FreeCard! (one down...)
Adrian: I have just emailed Tony Guntharp, the project manager of Source
Forge to discuss possibilities - I will keep you all posted.
Good initiative :-)
Cheers
ther forum
where I want to ask first - and I'll wait for that to run its course.
Mark,
it'd be great if you could keep us informed about this thread -- what they
consider bad, what good in license exceptions, and if they bring up any
legal problems etc. that might bite us later on.
Cheers,
-- M. Ul
and reliability before we introduce additional
bugs by glueing them together g.
Alain: Sounds good. We could feed it hundreds of
existing HyperCard stacks. That should give it XBF a
thorough testing.
gulp and I'll have some work getting the kinks out of it :-S
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
(and don't forget printing).
And finally, I might be mistaken, but some platforms don't support scaling
images that are copied using their equivalent to CopyBits(). I think there
were some Unix dialects, maybe even Linux, which means faking this might
really get hard.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
.
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?
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At 3:05 PM +0100 on 3/2/00, M. Uli Kusterer wrote:
put "hello" after standardOutput
You can't use put with standard output because standard output is NBOT
seekable, and explaining to users why they can only put to the end of
standard out is a mess. Write, OTOH, only allows append.
.
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ease substitution a bit as we could
just force characters to be a certain height or width. It might look a bit
ugly with small fonts and won't stay true to the font's original look, but
at least stacks would remain viewable even with some fonts missing.
Cheers,
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it out and notified you of some problems I had back then.
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The proper URL (for those too busy to try out):
http://ufp.uqam.ca/opencard/fclicens.htm
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users "put" into it. I'm for making files regular objects anyway (in 2.0 or
whatever). I.e.:
put "hello" into line 2 of file "textfile.txt"
or whatever.
put "hello" after standardOutput
won't be that bad either. Whether there's a space or not, I don'
be an additional bonus. We'd see how well the XBF file format
lends itself to storing stacks or retrieving them again.
It's not too bad (ok, I confess: it's a PITA)
Well, I haven't gotten it to work properly yet.
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instead of pestering g you.
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hind the scenes" to
ensure the two works fit together. Maybe a little status report might be in
order regarding voting, though.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
http://www.weblayout.com/witness
'The Witnesses of TeachText are everywhere...'
something like that would work. This way you could handle about 3
menu items per object, I guess that would work, even though it'd be a
hassle to write. I guess MC doesn't support the menuMessage ...
BTW - your progress on menus sounds great. Can't wait to se it.
Cheers,
-- M. Ul
use fonts that are just about right in width and
height. We'd just have to give them some leeway.
Cheers,
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--
MetaCard has stdin and stdout (as well as long forms standardInput and
standardOutput in preparation), and Joker uses those, too. We could use
that, as I don't have an idea what better term one could use.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
ils (I don't expect you to
make every dialog window have bondi-blue corners, it might look cool but
it's unnecessary), however, I think MetaCard's menus really might profit
from being reworked.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
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'The Witnesses of TeachText are everywhere...'
I still need to know a list of cross platform fonts. So far I have chicago,
arial and helvetica. What other fonts are available on all systems?
Eric,
Chicago is standard on Mac, however it's Apple-only. Few Windows or Linux
users will have it.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
Of course. But it working without X is very, very, very important for
CGI's on Unix.
Anthony,
only NuInterpreter itself would be useful in that context. The whole
stack/UI stuff wouldn't be needed for that. Would it?
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
every aspect of
the interface.
Not only that, but it allows FreeCard to run in a text mode console.
Anthony,
this would be possible, but someone would have to port FreeCard to a
console API for that, since the buttons etc. would be C GUI API calls after
all.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
advertising
these features (and telling people they can use them) should be left for
1.1.
It would distract too much if we allowed adding new stuff before the old
stuff is in there.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
http
FreeCard that would be prohibited by that licence?
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'The Witnesses of TeachText are everywhere...'
Eric,
when you have finished what you have in mind so far for FreeUI, could you
possibly look into changing MC's error report window? It'd be cool if it
did like HC and opened a script editor for the errored script and selected
the problematic line or something like that.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli
is openly available on a widely used network, and
where you can reasonably expect it to remain available for at
least one year after you first publish the combination.
Please re-read this licence carefully as I'd hate if we missed a loophole.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
iCab comes with a javascript plugin
Since when? My 1.8 doesn't have one. Is this new in 1.9 (I always get
errors downloading it)?
I know that it supports Apple's MRJ (given you use a decently debugged
release), but JS must be new.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
with the terms of the GNU General Public License. If you make any
changes to the FreeCard source, you must release those changes under
the terms of the GNU General Public Licence.
Anthony,
I'll pass it by Richard to make sure that's equivalent.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
at they must
upgrade instead of pestering us. None of them have had
any 3.x problems, though ... so far as I know.
Cheers,
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more than addition on my machine :)
Anthony,
paranoia! I'm all for it.
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) and
addition of more OOP-like features (a concept similar to classes would be
cool).
Anybody have a different vision or would like to add something?
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
http://www.weblayout.com/witness
Read the gnu website -- especially the part about the BSD advertising
clause -- before asking.
Anthony,
yeah, I just remembered that and so didn't ask :-)
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
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by "" and "".
Download manager contains a filtertext() function that encodes plain text
to HTML (and Elektra has it, too). You (or anyone else) might find that
useful the next time.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
--
the page? Manually, with a stack, with
a Perl script ... ? Depending on what you did we might be able to 'port' it
to a different tool (such as my Elektra) which will at least rescue the
contents, and maybe even some of the design.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
I don't understand the reference to VB -- never used (or heard of) "VB
for applications." Could you please elaborate?
Visual basic for applications. MS's excuse for a macro language that makes
writing cross-platform viruses using Word much easier.
Cheers,
-- M. Ul
throws.
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.
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ing to calling XCMDs
to do the work.
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. Maybe we should check what browsers
people are running ... ? Anthony has Netscape 4.08, I have Netscape 4.7,
anybody had success to view it with anything else?
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-- M. Uli Kusterer
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Not that I mind seeing them go, but what was so bad about R/B trees and
multimaps? They are pretty standard, well-tested stuff and they are fast.
No, multimap was a guest. So to say the person who's just been waiting to
take over R/B tree's job.
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free software anyhow. I'll throw it into the discussion.
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concern is private users needing standalones. Adding it to non-GPL
applications usually means they want to make money off it, and I think we
needn't risk free availability of FreeCard to allow this. How are the
others thinking?
Cheers,
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up a small window
whenever the program quits that says "Created using FreeCard 1.0, available
*at no charge* at http://ufp.uqam.ca/freecard" or something like that).
I'll see what Richard says.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
not such a big deal. We can make an
exporter stack.
X-actleee!
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a
FreeCard standalone competes with FreeCard itself?
As I said, I'm still investigating this. Maybe Eric can help here, him
being our only legalese-spoken person.
Cheers,
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and/or to get more programmers to join in.
I am sure Anthony will try to find a symbiosis between readable and
efficient (and if not, we can still re-write FreeInterpreter g). As long
as he keeps commenting everything with tons of //s, I think we'll be able
to live with it.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
(s). Prank or not,
millions were lost. And I believe that they have
apprehended someone recently in this regard.
Oh, that! I thought he meant our site of the atlantic since he was talking
about France earlier...
Cheers,
-- M. Ul
. Uli Kusterer
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Agreed. Wonder how mad the ISEF will get that I didn't give them a
social "security" number? Do they have an ISEF in Germany?
Dunno. What is ISEF? incredibly stupid e-mail faults?
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think I'm going to do it. I tried for two weeks and
then I decided it wasn't worth the effort. OK, that was a couple of years
ago, so maybe someone with more knowledge than I had then and enough time
could get it sorted out.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
. Here's proof what a good marketing
dept gets you...
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? It will still look nice
MacOS-like, right? I don't really understand what tab stops you're talking
about? The tabbing order of fields?
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have to use a
multimap instead which requires a couple of code changes) I'll whip up a
quick program that can be controlled from MetaCard via AppleEvents. That
should make the conversion rather easy. Figuring out the HC file format is
beyond our heads right now, I think.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
...
Heck, Paranoia saved all my e-mails from being eaten by the big bad Eudora
demo version bug -- it's a good thing, cultivate it!
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
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o. Writing security privacy aware apps can be a pain.
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range logo isn't on the first page g.
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t; command, but nonetheless it's a valiant effort) and
expand upon it, I think we will be walking a similar path. That's why
I said "where feasible": There are mistakes they made from which we
can learn.
Cheers
the web uses read/write
or similar commands, we will simply restrict it to one folder, so the
user's files aren't jeopardized.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
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'The Witnesses of TeachText
I have yet to see
a use of colors that I don't find too toy-like. If you use colors,
you might want to make sure they're not too bright, or "loud".
Oh, the computer lab is open ! am happy.
Let us rejoice with brother Eric :-))
Cheers,
-- M. Ul
. The file was created during another
session of XBF. Now I just have to get the compact routine up-to-date
and everything will be fine :-)
--
XBlockFile Demo 1.0
Created by M. Uli Kusterer
WARNING:
The buffers in this
be 20 x 20). It's
always convenient if you can bring up the online help chapter on the
current window by clicking at the same location.
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ight split off to do their own thing. Of course, there
could still be collaboration. I think in most cases we *will* arrive
at a decision that makes everyone happy. Often you can ease a
decision by just adding a compiler flag that lets you turn off
certain feature
HTML works.
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
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I
get the chance to work on NuParser NuInterpreter again.
Hope it'll be soon :-)
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-- M. Uli Kusterer
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'The Witnesses of TeachText are everywhere...'
web. I would just download the file header (which
contains the position of the main map) and then use the info from
that to download only the main map, and then that would be used to
download the blocks currently needed (i.e. the main stack of the
file, it's first backgroun
page? After all, we have to make sure they can just click on a
"Decisions made so far" link and know what's going on.
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them in NuParser etc. That's the main reason I sent
you the source code.
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the
opencard folder to its index page again. As I so rarely visit our
page, I often don't realize that there are people working behind the
scenes to get the server on-line again. Be sure of my gratitude!
Now, back to XBF ...
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
help on dealing with the mailing list software send the message "help"
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just do what it says:
Send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You sent it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-- M. Uli Kusterer
last line that provides a URL for
signing the petition. This resource has been
permanently removed.
Alain,
sorry, I had almost forgotten about it :-(
Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
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