On Apr 19, 2006, at 12:18 AM, David Savage wrote:
FA 100mm f2.8 Macro isn't too shabby:
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_001/pages/IMGP2152_2.html
Of course you need friendly birds :-)
Not necessarily, but you'd better be prepared to crop. A lot.
Here's a small section of a
The SMC Pentax- A 400/5.6 can sometimes be had for as little as $300.
$400 to $450 is a more typical price. There are also M and K versions
of the Pentax lens (SMC Pentax-M 400/5.6 and SMC Pentax 400/5.6), but
neither will focus close enough for bird photography without the
addition of an
On 4/19/06, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not necessarily, but you'd better be prepared to crop. A lot.
Here's a small section of a slide I just happened to be working on
this evening...
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/swans.html
That's Velvia grain you can see ;) The image is a
Kerstetter
Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
The Tokina 400/5.6 in good condition goes for around $150 then? Is
this MF or AF?
Also, about how much should I expect to pay for an A400/5.6? And
also, also for either of these lens' are there different versions
that should
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From: Don Williams
Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
That's strange. You would expect the opposite considering the sensor is
so much smaller than the film frame.
Digital sensors seem somewhat less forgiving than film in this regard.
William Robb
so lenes that are optimized for digital in addition to being smaller
are designed to have less CA?
Russell
On Apr 19, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote:
so lenes that are optimized for digital in addition to being smaller
are designed to have less CA?
No optical designer ever designed a lens to have more CA ... it's
just that film and digital sensors constitute entirely different
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Don Williams
Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
That's strange. You would expect the opposite considering the sensor
is so much smaller than the film frame.
Digital sensors seem somewhat less forgiving than film in this regard.
William
- Original Message -
From: Russell Kerstetter
Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
so lenes that are optimized for digital in addition to being smaller
are designed to have less CA?
I don't know about smaller, the two digital only lenses that I have are both
horses.
Lens design
Russell,
Not that I have any expertise whatsoever on the subject of wildlife
photography, but I'd say also that primes are definitely the way to
go. And you will always want more reach than you have. Seems like
in order to get really close for those frame filling shots that
shooting from
On 17/4/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
It's easy to shoot birds with a 200-- if they're dead.
Mark!
would that be a parrot Paul? ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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I have a Chinon 300/5.6 which looks a lot like this Tokina 400/5.6.
Maybe the same factory? Would a 300/5.6 on a APs snesor be OK ?
Isn't 5.6 a bit slow ?
--
Thibouille
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*ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Cotty wrote:
On 17/4/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
It's easy to shoot birds with a 200-- if they're dead.
Mark!
would that be a parrot Paul? ;-)
Thanks Cotty!
(Beautiful plumage, eh?)
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
Russell,
Not that I have any expertise whatsoever on the subject of wildlife
photography, but I'd say also that primes are definitely the way to
go. And you will always want more reach than you have. Seems like
in order to get really
On 4/18/06, Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is a decent lens (or a decent length) for shooting birds?
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G'day Russell
FA 100mm f2.8 Macro isn't too shabby:
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_001/pages/IMGP2152_2.html
Of course you need friendly birds :-)
The FA
When did you change your name John?
Dave S
===On 4/18/06, Jan Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:===
Paul, the Tokina focuses down to about 13 feet. That isn't close enough on
film for any but the largest birds, but on the APS sensor in the *ist-D it
is OK, as evidenced by my last parrot shot.
I've seen 3 varieties of this lens.
The oldest of them is the RMC.
Then came the SD
Finally came AF and improved optics in the AT-X SD.
Here's some general observations:
The old RMC may be limited to the K/M mount.
The SD can
What's the story on this friendly bird..taxidermy?
Jack
--- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/18/06, Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is a decent lens (or a decent length) for shooting birds?
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G'day Russell
FA 100mm f2.8 Macro isn't too shabby:
Hi Russell,
Birds are difficult because they're so small and fidgety.
They don't ever seem to sit still. You need to use some type of
blind to get close even with really long lenses. I don't like TCs
for birds because I lose too much shutter speed. I throw away
enough blurred shots as it is.
Nah! It's wild native bird that just isn't afraid of anything :-) I've
seen them fight off crows, magpies and kookaburras.
What it was doing was following behind my old man, as he was walking
on the lawn, eating all the flying insects that Dad stirred up.
When Dad stopped and sat down this
lense on the
*ist D at 40 yards has yet to produce a pleasing shot of large birds like
eagles and herons when the picture is cropped enough to show off the bird.
Tom C.
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From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One should not let a lust for toys be confused with needs. Toys are nice to
have but one should not lie to one's self about it.
graywolf
OTOH, there's no real substitute for having the right tool for the job. :-)
Tom C.
Hi Jay
that is a nice and promising photo, I would love to try that lens too :-)
greetings
Markus
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Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
I have been very satisfied
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Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
When did you change your name John?
Dave S
===On 4/18/06, Jan Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:===
Paul, the Tokina focuses down to about 13 feet. That isn't close enough
on
film for any
: Tokina 400/5.6 variations (Re: long lens for birds?)
I've seen 3 varieties of this lens.
The oldest of them is the RMC.
Then came the SD
Finally came AF and improved optics in the AT-X SD.
Here's some general observations:
The old RMC may
@pdml.net
Subject: long lens for birds?
What is a decent lens (or a decent length) for shooting birds? I read
a book about this topic, and author prefers to shoot at 200, but I
have noticed that many of the shots posted here are much longer than
that, and often with a TC. This also brings
I thought as much. But I just wanted to check.
:-)
Dave S
On 4/19/06, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No change Dave, just that I had to use my laptop while my desktop was having
a hissy fit, and the email account there is set up for my wife to use!
Reverting to my (normal) male persona
The Tokina 400/5.6 in good condition goes for around $150 then? Is
this MF or AF?
Also, about how much should I expect to pay for an A400/5.6? And
also, also for either of these lens' are there different versions
that should not be purchased?
Also, also, also. thank you for the
also, also, also, also.. I did not see Colin's other post about
the Tokina for I post may last.
Russell
- Original Message -
From: Russell Kerstetter
Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
The Tokina 400/5.6 in good condition goes for around $150 then? Is
this MF or AF?
Also, about how much should I expect to pay for an A400/5.6? And
also, also for either of these lens
Switars were great. I still have one of those terrible slides. I'll look
for it. By the way I also have the Sigma 400/5.6 APO and this is also
good. It works well with a Tokina Doubler.
Don
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Russell Kerstetter
Subject: Re: long lens
What is a decent lens (or a decent length) for shooting birds? I read
a book about this topic, and author prefers to shoot at 200, but I
have noticed that many of the shots posted here are much longer than
that, and often with a TC. This also brings to mind Tim from Norway
and having problems
On Apr 17, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote:
or should I instead be
looking at primes? (I do have a very limited budget.)
The upside with primes is that they're generally faster and sharper
than a zoom in the same price range.
I heartily recommend buying the best primes you can
I'll just offer the thought that, it all depends or your method and
style of shooting. Setting up in a likely feeding/watering site with
you and your equipment in an nonthreatening location, can make for a
fat 'folio of bird images. Flash w/long snoot is big help.
OTOH, chasing raptors in and out
I'd recommend the Tokina 400/5.6.
It's relatively inexpensive, fast enough
for general use, and decent quality.
The woodpecker I shot this past weekend
was out @ 200mm.
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/AWalkInThePark041506/
And the bird was only about 15 ft. (5 meters) away.
Given the cropping,
.
From: Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: long lens for birds?
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:23:20 -0700
What is a decent lens (or a decent length) for shooting birds? I read
a book about this topic, and author prefers
It's easy to shoot birds with a 200-- if they're dead. Otherwise you're
going to want something longer. Of course a prime is best. Fast, long
primes are very expensive. One of the best bargains is the A400/5.6. It
focuses close enough to shoot a bird full frame. With a Pentax digital
it is
what you should start looking for kind of depends on what you're
planning to do with the photos.
I am a hobbyist photographer who follows a professional bird
photographer around from time to time. For what it's worth, the
majority of the bird photos I've shot (
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Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
I'd recommend the Tokina 400/5.6.
It's relatively inexpensive, fast enough
for general use, and decent quality.
Very good quality, truth be to tell. One just went on eBay for less than
US$40.00
Before the 1960's a lot of wildlife photography was done with a Leica
and a 135mm lens, back then labor was cheap and there was not a lot of
money for equipment and photographers were willing to invest a day in
getting a decent shot. Today money is more readily available than time,
so one
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Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
I'd recommend the Tokina 400/5.6.
It's relatively inexpensive, fast enough
for general use, and decent quality.
Very good quality, truth be to tell. One just went on eBay for less
than US$40.00
William Robb
Very good quality, truth be to tell. One just went on eBay for less
than US$40.00
William Robb
I was watching that one.
It has some fungus on the front cell.
But good ones have been $150 regularly.
Sincerely,
Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.brendemuehl.net
He is no fool who gives what he
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From: Collin R Brendemuehl
Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
Very good quality, truth be to tell. One just went on eBay for less
than US$40.00
William Robb
I was watching that one.
It has some fungus on the front cell.
But good ones have been $150 regularly
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From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
What's the minimum focus distance on the Tokina? That's where some of the
less expensive primes and zooms fall short. The A400/5.6 focuses at 2.8
metres. You'll need close focus ability for birds
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:51 PM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
I'd recommend the Tokina 400/5.6.
It's relatively inexpensive, fast enough
for general use, and decent quality.
Very good quality, truth be to tell
the less expensive primes and zooms fall short. The A400/5.6
focuses at
PS 2.8 metres. You'll need close focus ability for birds.
PS Paul
PS On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:51 PM, William Robb wrote:
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Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
I'd recommend
, Australia
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: long lens for birds?
What's the minimum focus distance on the Tokina? That's where some of the
less expensive primes and zooms fall
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