DO NOT REPLY [Bug 22743] - A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense.

2003-09-10 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=22743 A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense. --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 11:50 --- JSTL EL expression manager is specific to a server-side application. Commons Validator could use JEXL to accomplish this goal

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 22743] - A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense.

2003-09-10 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=22743 A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense. --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-10 13:50 --- AFAIK, this proposal applies to Struts and not Validator so using EL is no big deal. Currently, Validator provides a framework and low-level

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 22743] - A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense.

2003-09-07 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=22743 A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense. --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-09-08 00:15 --- Being able to use scripting expressions within XML seems like an interesting idea. Expecially if the idea were to support any BSF scripting language

Re: Tiles-el and nested-el tags (was Re: Support for non-JSTL tags)

2003-09-04 Thread David M. Karr
appreciate it if motivated Tiles/JSTL users could test it as much as possible once I've put it into the nightly build. I'll also start looking at the nested-el library, just for completeness. -- === David M. Karr ; Java/J2EE/XML

Re: Tiles-el and nested-el tags (was Re: Support for non-JSTL tags)

2003-09-04 Thread Sgarlata Matt
I'm planning on committing the tiles-el library this weekend, but I won't have any unit or integration tests for it by the time I commit it. I'll proceed down that path once it's committed, but that process will be slow. I'd appreciate it if motivated Tiles/JSTL users could test it as much

RE: Tiles-el and nested-el tags (was Re: Support for non-JSTL tags)

2003-09-04 Thread Edgar P Dollin
Thanks for the update. I'll see if I can work them a little for you. Edgar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-09-01 Thread Shai.Berger
Perhaps this belongs on the user list, but I think it is relevant for the discussion at hand. You all seem to regard all of the Struts taglibs as one item, for which JSTL is an alternative. While this is certainly true for the logic: and bean: tags, I have not seen a replacement for the html: form

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-09-01 Thread Steve Raeburn
You are right, JSTL doesn't completely remove the need for Struts specific tags. I think for the purposes of this discussion, the next generation would be JSTL plus the struts-el taglib and when we talk about the Struts tags, we're really talking about the traditional, non-el tags. So keep using

Tiles-el and nested-el tags (was Re: Support for non-JSTL tags)

2003-09-01 Thread Sgarlata Matt
conversation Steve Raeburn indicated he would be interested in these tags. Steve also pointed out we are missing the Nested tags, but since I've never used those before I leave that tedious task to someone else ;) Matt Steve Raeburn wrote: You are right, JSTL doesn't completely remove the need

Re: Tiles-el and nested-el tags (was Re: Support for non-JSTL tags)

2003-09-01 Thread David M. Karr
Sgarlata == Sgarlata Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sgarlata Speaking of EL, I noticed we don't have EL versions of the Tiles tags. I would Sgarlata be happy to provide the implementations, but I know it will be tedious so I Sgarlata only want to proceed if there's a reasonably

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-31 Thread Steve Raeburn
-Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 29, 2003 6:08 PM Each of us can only offer support from our own experience. If a person is not using the html taglib, then they might not know the html taglib solution. But if they are using JSTL, they might

Re: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Ted Husted
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: I'm -1 on making Struts 1.2.x dependent on Servlet 2.3 / JSP 1.2. Ditto. Contrary to popular brief, a great number of organizations have *not* migrated to 2.3/1.2, including some of the largest companies in the world. -Ted.

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Steve Raeburn
My original point really was that if the standard for Struts continues to be 2.2/1.1 that we should be careful not to reply to the How do I do this with html:??? questions with the stock answer of use JSTL. If we're supporting Struts tags then I believe we should first answer the question

Re: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Ted Husted
Each of us can only offer support from our own experience. If a person is not using the html taglib, then they might not know the html taglib solution. But if they are using JSTL, they might know a JSTL solution. There's no limit on the number of responses we can post to a question. If someone

Re: RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] -Enhancement: link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Kent Sølvsten Rasmussen
] wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, David Graham wrote: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:26:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Support for non-JSTL

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Edgar P Dollin
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:10 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag) I feel it's become a bit too easy to give the JSTL answer and not deal with the issue

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Edgar P Dollin
I would like to see those responses. Edgar -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:08 PM (Hey, maybe I should start answering the html taglib questions with the Velocity Tools solution!)

Re: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] -Enhancement: link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Ted Husted
It's my feeling that Struts 1.x has to support 2.2/1.1, because that's where a significant number of users still live. But, it's also my feeling that the refactoring of the Request Processor could open the door to being able to offer more than one front controller for Struts 1.x. The default

Re: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Ted Husted
David Graham wrote: IMO, Struts 2.x should attempt to get out of the taglib business altogether. Until then, we should just let the tags be and maintain Struts 1.x as Servlet 2.2 minimum requirement. +1 And along the way, we can start distancing the core distribution from the taglib

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] -Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Steve Raeburn wrote: My original point really was that if the standard for Struts continues to be 2.2/1.1 that we should be careful not to reply to the How do I do this with html:??? questions with the stock answer of use JSTL. Point well taken -- I've been guilty

Re: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465]-Enhanc ement: link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Ted Husted wrote: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:35:38 -0400 From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-30 Thread Steve Raeburn
Many Jakarta products have subproducts with their own CVS. Perhaps there should be a Struts taglib CVS where all three packages could live. -Ted. +1 What about also doing this for the contrib components? Some of these are really only concepts or proposals rather than production quality

Improve JSTL i18n support with Struts

2003-08-29 Thread Rick Hightower
I’d like to see Struts play nice with JSTL i18n support. I have a suggestion along these lines. (This is prelim. I am going to write some tests and do some prototyping but before I do… I’d like to hear if there are any thoughts on this). Currently when you call Action.setLocale you get

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-29 Thread David Graham
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:20 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag) I'm not singling Vic out for this (honest) but... The standard advice we are now giving

Re: Improve JSTL i18n support with Struts

2003-08-29 Thread David Graham
: I’d like to see Struts play nice with JSTL i18n support. I have a suggestion along these lines. (This is prelim. I am going to write some tests and do some prototyping but before I do… I’d like to hear if there are any thoughts on this). Currently when you call Action.setLocale you get

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, David Graham wrote: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:26:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE

RE: Improve JSTL i18n support with Struts

2003-08-29 Thread Rick Hightower
Okay. No problem. I will still work on this (I need it) maybe I'll just come up with a Best Practice for using JSTL i18N support with Struts or something along those lines. It seems like any JSTL integration is going to wait until Struts 2.0. I understand the reasoning behind this. It makes

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 22743] - A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense.

2003-08-28 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=22743 A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense. --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-08-28 02:38 --- Would this make more sense in JSP Tags? .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Raeburn
I'm not singling Vic out for this (honest) but... The standard advice we are now giving everyone is use JSTL, which I wholeheartedly agree with and have said myself. However, I think we need to make sure that we still adequately support non-JSTL solutions and continue to consider bug fixes

Re: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-28 Thread David Graham
--- Steve Raeburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not singling Vic out for this (honest) but... The standard advice we are now giving everyone is use JSTL, which I wholeheartedly agree with and have said myself. However, I think we need to make sure that we still adequately support non-JSTL

Re: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-28 Thread Robert Leland
Steve Raeburn wrote: I'm not singling Vic out for this (honest) but... The standard advice we are now giving everyone is use JSTL, which I wholeheartedly agree with and have said myself. However, I think we need to make sure that we still adequately support non-JSTL solutions and continue

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-28 Thread Shai.Berger
For what my non-contributor opinion's worth, I totally agree with David. So far as I know, while JSTL is not _required_ by the standard for JSP 1.2, it does not _require_ 1.2 -- and can be used with 1.1 containers; so saying use JSTL does not translate to upgrade to Servlet 2.3. Shai

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-28 Thread Kris Schneider
JSTL does indeed require JSP 1.2. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For what my non-contributor opinion's worth, I totally agree with David. So far as I know, while JSTL is not _required_ by the standard for JSP 1.2, it does not _require_ 1.2 -- and can be used with 1.1 containers; so saying use

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 22743] - A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense.

2003-08-28 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=22743 A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense. --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-08-28 21:41 --- Vic, Can you clarify your comment? Perhaps, I did not include enough details. Here is an example of using this rule to check to see

RE: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag)

2003-08-28 Thread Rick Hightower
:20 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag) I'm not singling Vic out for this (honest) but... The standard advice we are now giving everyone is use JSTL, which I wholeheartedly agree with and have said

RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-27 Thread Steve Raeburn
Rick, It certainly sounds interesting but I'd like to have a working example to play with. It would be nice if you could: a. Create a small working example as a war and post in on a website for us to take a look at. b. Create an enhancement request in Bugzilla and add your proposed patches

RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-27 Thread James Turner
The only reason I didn't go with JSTL is that I couldn't find a way to represent the Foo[] syntax (meaning the same index into Foo that is being used by the field being checked) in JSTL, and that's very useful when you're doing master-detail records where you want the Last Name for a row

RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-27 Thread Rick Hightower
Comments below (**) -Original Message- From: James Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:38 PM To: 'Struts Developers List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL The only reason I didn't

RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-27 Thread Rick Hightower
: Steve Raeburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:37 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL Rick, It certainly sounds interesting but I'd like to have a working example to play with. It would

RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-27 Thread Rick Hightower
I only have the JSTL EL validator rule complete. It still needs testing, logging, and some general refactoring. Here is the war file http://www.rickhightower.com/CustomRule.war Here is the src http://www.rickhightower.com/CustomRule.zip Rick Hightower Chief Technology Officer Trivera

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 22743] New: - A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense.

2003-08-27 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=22743 A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense. Summary: A JSTL EL Validator rule would make a lot of sense. Product: Struts Version: Unknown Platform: All URL: http://www.rickhightower.com/CustomRule.zip OS

RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-27 Thread David Graham
of validatewhen, just not the implementation. I've read James' book on Struts and I respect his talent and ability. I think JSTL should have been selected instead. If I was voting back then and my vote counted, I would have given it a -1. I give James a +1 for effort. David Graham: I

JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-26 Thread Rick Hightower
I am new to this list so I apologize if I break any etiquette. I was thinking that I don't like validatewhen or requiredif so I wrote my own that uses JSTL EL. (I like the idea behind requiredif and validatewhen just not the implementation.) I believe this approach has several advantages over

RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-26 Thread Rick Hightower
What were your thoughts on JSTL EL validator rule? You commented on BSF and OGNL, but not the JSTL EL validator rule, which I actually wrote. The others just seem like a good idea. Regarding: This is a General suggestion you have probably given many times yourself First off

Re: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhenusing JSTL

2003-08-26 Thread Robert Leland
Rick Hightower wrote: What were your thoughts on JSTL EL validator rule? You commented on BSF and OGNL, but not the JSTL EL validator rule, which I actually wrote. The others just seem like a good idea. Sorry, For not commenting on that. I agree that a JSTL EL expression makes sense. For now

RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-26 Thread David Graham
I am using the JSTL EL Validator that I wrote, but not the BSF or OGNL ones I suggested. I just think they would be a good idea. I'll try the BSF tag since I don't know much about OGNL. I like the idea of using the same JavaScript on the client side and the server side, but for now

RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-26 Thread Rick Hightower
David Graham et al. I can feel the train derailing off the tracks. Screch! For a moment let's pretend that I never mentioned BSF or Rhino. I want to get your collective thoughts on JSTL EL Validator Rule. JSTL EL Validator Rule (validatejstl) -- What feedback do

RE: JSTL EL Validator rule: A better requiredif and validatewhen using JSTL

2003-08-26 Thread Rick Hightower
on Struts and I respect his talent and ability. I think JSTL should have been selected instead. If I was voting back then and my vote counted, I would have given it a -1. I give James a +1 for effort. David Graham: I agree that using the EL for validation makes sense for the reasons you stated

RE: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends

2003-01-06 Thread Tim Moore
are not set, then it defaults to the current mechanism for determining the index value. c:forEach var=item items=${items} varStatus=status html:checkbox indexed=true indexName=status indexProperty=index .../ /c:forEach That way you don't have any direct dependency on JSTL, and it might work

Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends

2003-01-05 Thread V. Cekvenich
. Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends Craig == Craig R McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Craig On 4 Jan 2003, David M. Karr wrote: Can anyone

Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends

2003-01-05 Thread Martin Cooper
: Date: 04 Jan 2003 17:28:58 -0800 From: David M. Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends Craig == Craig R McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends

2003-01-05 Thread V. Cekvenich
. McClanahan wrote: On 4 Jan 2003, David M. Karr wrote: Date: 04 Jan 2003 17:28:58 -0800 From: David M. Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends Craig

Re: Jelly actions (was Re: Another bright idea, make indexed workwith JSTL forEach and friends)

2003-01-05 Thread Ted Husted
Sounds like we're all on the same page here. =:0) I'm also looking at using the Jelly XLST for views as well (a la the Velocity View Tools). Martin Cooper wrote: On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Longer term (2.0 time frame probably), I'm playing with more interesting ideas

Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends

2003-01-04 Thread James Turner
) to have the html tags also look for JSTL iterators. However, to make this work, we'd need to add a dependency on jakarta-taglibs so that the class would be available. I don't think that this would break anything in terms of JSP version support, since it wouldn't require evaluation of ELs, just looking

Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach andfriends

2003-01-04 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, James Turner wrote: Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:26:34 -0500 From: James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends As has been

Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends

2003-01-04 Thread David M. Karr
bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends As has been pointed out, about the only remaining reason to use logic:iterate over c:forEach is that you can't use an html:text tag (or friends) with an indexed property set, because it only looks

Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach andfriends

2003-01-04 Thread Martin Cooper
be very simple (having peered at the source) to have the html tags also look for JSTL iterators. However, to make this work, we'd need to add a dependency on jakarta-taglibs so that the class would be available. I don't think that this would break anything in terms of JSP version support

RE: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends

2003-01-04 Thread James Turner
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Martin Cooper wrote: If you want to do this, I'd rather see it happen in the html-el taglib than the regular html taglib. Struts-EL already depends on JSTL, and is designed to work in cooperation with it, so it's a much more natural fit than trying to sneak JSTL

Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends

2003-01-04 Thread David M. Karr
James == James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Martin Cooper wrote: If you want to do this, I'd rather see it happen in the html-el taglib than the regular html taglib. Struts-EL already depends on JSTL, and is designed to work in cooperation

Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach andfriends

2003-01-04 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On 4 Jan 2003, David M. Karr wrote: Can anyone envision any other situations in the Struts code where indirect references to the JSTL would be convenient? That, at least, could give us some additional perspective on this. General purpose access to the EL evaluator (which David used

RE: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach andfriends

2003-01-04 Thread Martin Cooper
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, James Turner wrote: On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Martin Cooper wrote: If you want to do this, I'd rather see it happen in the html-el taglib than the regular html taglib. Struts-EL already depends on JSTL, and is designed to work in cooperation with it, so it's a much more

RE: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach andfriends

2003-01-04 Thread Martin Cooper
that in the original code base. ;-) -- Martin Cooper James -Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:37 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach

RE: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends

2003-01-04 Thread James Turner
. 2) Empty catch clauses are evil. ;-) You should at least log a debug message so that real problems can be debugged more easily. Well, two of them shouldn't log anything because they are simply there to catch the you haven't got JSTL case, I though about logging the other cases but they should

RE: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach andfriends

2003-01-04 Thread Martin Cooper
class loader is tried first. I'll do dat. 2) Empty catch clauses are evil. ;-) You should at least log a debug message so that real problems can be debugged more easily. Well, two of them shouldn't log anything because they are simply there to catch the you haven't got JSTL case, I

Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach andfriends

2003-01-04 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On 4 Jan 2003, David M. Karr wrote: Date: 04 Jan 2003 17:28:58 -0800 From: David M. Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another bright idea, make indexed work with JSTL forEach and friends Craig == Craig R

Re: Jelly actions (was Re: Another bright idea, make indexed workwith JSTL forEach and friends)

2003-01-04 Thread Martin Cooper
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Longer term (2.0 time frame probably), I'm playing with more interesting ideas like using Jelly scripts (or JSP pages) as Actions so you don't have to write them in Java. We also need a good high level multi-request framework, and it might be

Constants for EL / JSTL

2002-11-21 Thread edgar
There was some discussion on struts-user about how to access java constants from EL / JSTL. My idea is to have init parameters in web.xml for ActionServlet of the form init-param param-nametaglib-constant/param-name param-value[fully-qualified-class]/param-value

Re: Constants for EL / JSTL

2002-11-21 Thread David Graham
I was talking about general constant issues, not the Struts specific constants. I don't think we need any Struts specific stuff for this. David From: edgar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Developers List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Constants for EL / JSTL Date

FW: Constants for EL / JSTL

2002-11-21 Thread edgar
OOPS -Original Message- From: edgar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:03 AM To: 'David Graham' Subject: RE: Constants for EL / JSTL The idea wasn't intended to be struts specific, just a way to preload constant classes for a struts based application

RE: Accessing DynaActionForm objects in JSTL tags?

2002-10-30 Thread Karr, David
At end. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc;apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:44 PM David == David Karr Karr writes: David Presently JSTL tags can't easily access DynaActionForm objects. I haven't David used these much, but I

Re: RE: Accessing DynaActionForm objects in JSTL tags?

2002-10-30 Thread Ted Husted
10/30/2002 11:49:13 AM, Karr, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else want to chime in on this? If you want to make the change, broadening the use of DynaActionForms sounds like a worthwhile feature to me. -Ted. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14116] New: - Add getMap() method to DynaActionForm to let JSTL EL reference DynaActionForms

2002-10-30 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=14116 Add getMap() method to DynaActionForm to let JSTL EL reference DynaActionForms Summary: Add getMap() method to DynaActionForm to let JSTL EL reference DynaActionForms Product: Struts Version: Nightly Build Platform: Other

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14116] New: - Add getMap() method to DynaActionForm to let JSTL EL reference DynaActionForms

2002-10-30 Thread David M. Karr
TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND bugzilla INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE. bugzilla http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14116 bugzilla Add getMap() method to DynaActionForm to let JSTL EL reference DynaActionForms bugzillaSummary: Add getMap() method

Re: Accessing DynaActionForm objects in JSTL tags?

2002-10-29 Thread David M. Karr
David == David Karr Karr writes: David I'm asking this here first, to discuss the technical issues. If it appears David to be feasible, I'll ask a similar question on the user list, and then David perhaps write a bug report. David Presently JSTL tags can't easily access

Re: Accessing DynaActionForm objects in JSTL tags?

2002-10-29 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
See below. On 29 Oct 2002, David M. Karr wrote: Date: 29 Oct 2002 23:16:25 -0800 From: David M. Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Accessing DynaActionForm objects in JSTL tags? David == David Karr Karr writes

RE: Accessing DynaActionForm objects in JSTL tags?

2002-10-28 Thread James Mitchell
Personally, I consider DynaActionForms and JSTL as top bullets for 1.1. But if means delaying the release, well.you know. James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 13788] - Struts-EL: bean:include of a forward isn't covered in Struts-EL/JSTL

2002-10-25 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=13788 Struts-EL: bean:include of a forward isn't covered in Struts-EL/JSTL [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 12365] - Contribution of Struts-EL library: Struts with JSTL EL attributes

2002-10-09 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=12365 Contribution of Struts-EL library: Struts with JSTL EL attributes [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|struts- |[EMAIL

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 12365] - Contribution of Struts-EL library: Struts with JSTL EL attributes

2002-10-05 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=12365 Contribution of Struts-EL library: Struts with JSTL EL attributes [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 12365] - Contribution of Struts-EL library: Struts with JSTL EL attributes

2002-09-06 Thread bugzilla
/show_bug.cgi?id=12365 Contribution of Struts-EL library: Struts with JSTL EL attributes --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-09-06 14:30 --- Created an attachment (id=2954) Source distribution of the Struts-EL contribution -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Announce: JSTL (Standard Tags) + Struts (MVC) live web Demo

2002-07-23 Thread @Basebeans.com
Subject: Announce: JSTL (Standard Tags) + Struts (MVC) live web Demo From: Vic C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] === If you are starting a Java Web, you should use MVC and Standard tags, this kit is a sample of best (at least good) practices. It is MVC (Struts/Tiles)+JSTL +XSLT+ DAO (Open Source Data

RE: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL?

2002-07-17 Thread Martin Cooper
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL? Craig == Craig R McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Craig On 16 Jul 2002, David M

RE: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL?

2002-07-17 Thread Tim Moore
From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] By the way, a good reason to use the name var for the n/p/s attribute is because that is what JSTL uses for the equivalent functionality. Consistency is good! ;-) Well, I'm not sure that it is the equivalent functionality. From the spec

Re: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL?

2002-07-17 Thread David M. Karr
Tim == Tim Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] By the way, a good reason to use the name var for the n/p/s attribute is because that is what JSTL uses for the equivalent functionality. Consistency is good! ;-) Tim Well, I'm

Re: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL?

2002-07-17 Thread David M. Karr
on a single tag. Martin Of course, where the RT tags have n/p/s today, the EL tags would have a Martin var attribute instead. Martin b) It matches the approach taken by JSTL itself, with parallel RT and EL Martin taglibs. I certainly agree with this. That is how I'm proceeding with my

Re: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL?

2002-07-17 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On 17 Jul 2002, David M. Karr wrote: Date: 17 Jul 2002 12:07:09 -0700 From: David M. Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL? Tim == Tim Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL?

2002-07-17 Thread David M. Karr
Craig == Craig R McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Craig If we stay with the dual libraries approach, this all makes sense. Craig One thing we'll want to do *inside* the implementations is maximize the Craig reuse of the actual tag classes, to minimize the effort of keeping the

Re: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL?

2002-07-16 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On 16 Jul 2002, David M. Karr wrote: Date: 16 Jul 2002 19:42:46 -0700 From: David M. Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL? I don't know how much thought has yet gone into how

Re: Subclass Struts tags to work with JSTL?

2002-07-16 Thread David M. Karr
Craig == Craig R McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Craig On 16 Jul 2002, David M. Karr wrote: I don't know how much thought has yet gone into how Struts and JSTL can work together. I haven't noticed much serious talk about this. If these thoughts are obvious or ignorant

Re: JSTL

2002-06-24 Thread Shawn Bayern
On Sat, 22 Jun 2002, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: One thing I'd like to see done is to have all the Struts tags that use the name/property/scope pattern of attributes (for access to bean properties) also support a var attribute that understands the expression language syntax from JSTL. I

Re: JSTL

2002-06-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Shawn Bayern wrote: Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:36:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Shawn Bayern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JSTL Struts developers, I've just announced the final 1.0 release of the Standard

JSTL

2002-06-21 Thread Shawn Bayern
Struts developers, I've just announced the final 1.0 release of the Standard Taglib at Jakarta Taglibs (see announcement below). The Standard Taglib is an implementation of the JSP Standard Tag Library (JSTL). Concerning integration between JSTL and Struts in the future, I'm happy

Re: anyone care to clarify difference between struts and JSTL?

2002-04-07 Thread Martin Cooper
- Original Message - From: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: Re: anyone care to clarify difference between struts and JSTL? On 3 Apr 2002, David M. Karr wrote: Date: 03 Apr 2002 16:41

Re: anyone care to clarify difference between struts and JSTL?

2002-04-03 Thread David M. Karr
Craig == Craig R McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Craig My advice to Struts users is as follows: Craig * If you're running on a Servlet 2.2 / JSP 1.1 container, you Craig will not be able to use JSTL (it requires Servlet 2.3 / JSP 1.2). Craig Go ahead and continue using

anyone care to clarify difference between struts and JSTL?

2002-04-02 Thread Stephenson Tim
hi all, i have taken a stroll through the mail archive and not found any clear definition of what is the difference between the struts taglibs and the 'standard' taglibs. let me admit first that i am completely new to JSTL, what i really want to know is should i keep going with struts tags

Re: anyone care to clarify difference between struts and JSTL?

2002-04-02 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Stephenson Tim wrote: Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:52:46 +1000 From: Stephenson Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts mailing list (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: anyone care to clarify difference between struts and JSTL

Re: anyone care to clarify difference between struts and JSTL?

2002-04-02 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Stephenson Tim wrote: and some others have been deliberately (and i believe wisely) excluded on grounds on breaking MVC (eg JSTL sql tags) On this particular point, here's what I told the Struts BOF audience at JavaOne: Shame on you if you use the SQL tags in your

[JSTL] Announcing Public Review / RI Beta 1

2002-03-12 Thread Shawn Bayern
Taglibs community, The JSP Standard Tag Library (JSTL) just entered its Public Review stage under the Java Community Process, and Beta 1 of the reference implementation (RI) is now available through Jakarta Taglibs. This new draft spec and RI milestone solidifies JSTL in a number of respects

JSTL (standard taglib) Early Access 3

2001-12-13 Thread Shawn Bayern
Once again, I'm happy to announce a new Early Access release of the JSP Standard Tag Library (JSTL). Early Access Release 3 introduces tags for database access and incorporates some changes to the internationalization and XML-manipulation libraries. The reference implementation is available

Re: JSTL (standard taglib) Early Access 2

2001-11-21 Thread John Yu
Camino Developers, [DO NOT REPLY] Keep an eye on this... At 08:54 pm 21-11-2001 -0500, you wrote: Hi everyone - I'm pleased to announce Early Access Release 2 of the JSP Standard Tag Library, now called JSTL (which replaces the old acronym, JSPTL). While it is important to realize that Early

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