[Biofuel] Acetone as a diesel additive?

2005-11-29 Thread busyditch
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Re: [Biofuel] acetone

2005-11-22 Thread stwyk
Of ROY WashbishSent: 21 November 2005 07:55To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] acetone Please allow me to butt in here. I used 2 1/2 oz Acetone per 10 gal of gas in both my cars for two tank fulls. What I found, as I see it, was that the system got clean and my

Re: [Biofuel] acetone

2005-11-22 Thread Randall
Stephan, The car uses petrol /gasoline. It is not the model that uses LPG or other flex fuels. --Randall Charlotte, NC - Original Message - From: stwyk To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:41 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] acetone

Re: [Biofuel] acetone

2005-11-21 Thread Randall
: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] acetone Hi Derick, thanks for the update. Anyone else trying acetone? regards tallex ---Original Message--- From: Derick Giorchino [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Biofuel] acetone

2005-11-21 Thread ROY Washbish
Please allow me to butt in here. I used 2 1/2 oz Acetone per 10 gal of gas in both my cars for two tank fulls. What I found, as I see it, was that the system got clean and my mileage improved. After I went back to just gas, same station, same pump, the improvement was still there. My

Re: [Biofuel] acetone

2005-11-21 Thread bob allen
, November 20, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] acetone Hi Derick, thanks for the update. Anyone else trying acetone? regards tallex ---Original Message--- From: Derick Giorchino Subject: Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power- now

Re: [Biofuel] acetone

2005-11-21 Thread ROY Washbish
Howdy yourselfBob My SPECULATION: "My conclusion: Acetone is a very inexpensive fuel system cleaner. It will only improve mileage *_if _*it can clean the fuel system" Bob, maybe it is nothing more than CLEAN injectors or something small like that. I feel that IF the acetone did anything more

Re: [Biofuel] acetone

2005-11-21 Thread Randall
20, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] acetone Hi Derick, thanks for the update. Anyone else trying acetone? regards tallex ---Original Message--- From: Derick Giorchino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power- now acetone Sent: 20 Nov '05 05:03

Re: [Biofuel] acetone

2005-11-20 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
Hi Derick, thanks for the update. Anyone else trying acetone? regards tallex ---Original Message--- From: Derick Giorchino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power- now acetone Sent: 20 Nov '05 05:03 I have used the acetone on dino fuel with

[Biofuel] acetone

2005-05-04 Thread Andrew Tracey
Be prepared to buy at least one new fuel filter, i replaced two in nine weeks. The first one was chocker block with rust and crud. The second one i replaced after 8 weeks just to be sure. The motor was starting to miss occasionally, now it's power on. Look forward to your upcoming results. AT

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-23 Thread subramanian D.V
Thank you Mr. Jain, for the encouraging infmn. I will premix the acetone with some petrol before putting it into the tank. Will keep in touch after 2 months of regular use in petrol driven car. Regards, DVS Y. K. JAIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Mr. Subramanian, I tried commercial acetone

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-20 Thread Y. K. JAIN
Dear Mr. Subramanian, I tried commercial acetone (the one commonly available in India with chemists and used as nail polish remover) in my diesel car @ 0.2% with ordinary diesel. The result as noticed by me under identical conditions of daily commuting was increase in kmpl from 17 to 19.5 .

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-20 Thread dwoodard
These reports of better economy with an admixture of acetone in diesel fuel are extremely interesting. I surmise that something is going on besides reducing unburned fuel, and that the acetone is improving the speed of combustion, resulting in more energy being released close to top dead centre,

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-17 Thread dwoodard
Acetone is a perfectly good motor fuel ingredient, all other things being equal. Sir Harry Ricardo and colleagues used it in Castrol R motor racing fuel in the early 1920's, a mixture designed to have extreme heat of vapourization and charge density with high knock resistance. They used the

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-17 Thread subramanian D.V
Thank you Doug, The experiment is for on the road driving under normal driving conditions for two months and only to see whether there is a mileage increase or not. I'll certainly keep an eye on plastic and rubber parts. Thank you Keith for yr encouragement and infmn that comml acetone is

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-17 Thread subramanian D.V
Thank you Mr. Roy for yr helpful comments Regards, DVS ROY Washbish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi DVS It was YOUR question but it sure interests me also. I sure hope no one was REALLY put out by your use of acetone. I feel that they were actually looking for someone with TEST equipment of

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-16 Thread Chris
I doubt the independent retailers know about, or care about fuel efficiency If it worked, somebody small would have bought a 55 gallon drum of the stuff and repackaged it as the newest miracle. The label wouldn't say what the active ingredient is probably. Heck, if it works, I'll do it.

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-16 Thread Kenneth Kron (CEO)
Selling fuel is a stable low risk business. The independent retailers don't generally see radical change as part of their business model. Otherwise why aren't they all selling B20? There are two or three groups where people report their mileage and some people are reporting good

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-16 Thread subramanian D.V
Hi , Gasolene( petrol ) costs in India about 95 cents a liter, roughly twice of its price in U.S. And is edging up towards a dollar and more. The possibility of getting more mileage by mixing with a small dose of acetone came up from a mail posted in this list. As one of the middle class

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-16 Thread ROY Washbish
Hi DVS It was YOUR question but it sure interests me also. I sure hope no one was REALLY put out by your use of acetone. I feel that they were actually looking for someone with TEST equipment of offer to do a more accepted engineering test. I guess we have a bunch of engineers here and that's

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-16 Thread Keith Addison
Hi , Gasolene( petrol ) costs in India about 95 cents a liter, roughly twice of its price in U.S. And is edging up towards a dollar and more. The possibility of getting more mileage by mixing with a small dose of acetone came up from a mail posted in this list. As one of the middle class

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread 1 palm
Hello members, The acetone post is very interesting. will it harm catalytic converter ,oxygen sensor and fuel injection system? oilpalm1 subramanian D.V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello members, The information below came in one of the Emails. http://pesn.com/2005/03/ 17/6900069_Acetone/

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread bob allen
would be blending and selling the mix already? 1 palm wrote: Hello members, The acetone post is very interesting. will it harm catalytic converter ,oxygen sensor and fuel injection system? -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread Michael Redler
You're making sense Bob. Mike bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if it really worked, which I highly doubt, don't you think somebody would be blending and selling the mix already? 1 palm wrote: Hello members, The acetone post is very interesting. will it harm catalytic converter

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread Kenny Dunn
Except that the petro industry doesn't really have any interest in you getting better mileage. They certainly aren't telling us any ways to send them less money. $.02, Ken Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You're making sense Bob. bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if it really

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread bob allen
sell more gas if they could advertise it as providing 30 % better mileage. They could even a couple of cents to the price and be ahead on cost/distance. enny Dunn wrote: Except that the petro industry doesn't really have any interest in you getting better mileage. They certainly aren't

RE: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread Steve Hess
I doubt the independent retailers know about, or care about fuel efficiency steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob allen Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread Michael Redler
Hi Bob, Everything you're saying sounds very reasonable. But, sometimes the conspiracy theorist in me keeps coming out. Do you think that the oil industry has enough political horsepower to influence the possibility of this happening -- even if it works? Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself and

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread Keith Addison
Mike bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if it really worked, which I highly doubt, don't you think somebody would be blending and selling the mix already? Why don't you tell us why you doubt it Bob? I'm sure that would be appreciated. I'm afraid I have no such faith in the magic of the

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread fox mulder
--- 1 palm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello members, The acetone post is very interesting. will it harm catalytic converter ,oxygen sensor and fuel injection system? oilpalm1 subramanian D.V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello members, The information below came in one of the Emails.

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread bob allen
a century now right? And folks have been burning anything and everything that will flow thru a tube. I can't imagine that others haven't tried all sorts of mixtures already. also, more mileage is achieved by getting more energy out of your fuel. This would suggest that a significant

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread bob allen
post: the vapor pressure of acetone is greater than that of gasoline. (not that it matters really) -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves Richard Feynman --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-15 Thread Keith Addison
You got attacked the other day for a critique of the source rather than the content, but I really disagree with that. The source is not always relevant, but it's certainly relevant sometimes, and it's worth pointing out this time, thanks. We reach similar conclusions - I don't think it's

[Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases mileage by 15 -35%

2005-04-14 Thread subramanian D.V
Hello members, The information below came in one of the Emails. http://pesn.com/2005/03/ 17/6900069_Acetone/ Acetone In Fuel Said to Increase Mileage 15-35% Readily-available chemical added to gas tank in small proportion improves the fuel's ability to vaporize completely by

Re: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35%

2005-04-08 Thread TSTEVIC
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:22:02 -0400 From: Dan Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35% To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Kirk, Do you have any idea of the effects of acetone on a Honda

RE: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35%

2005-04-07 Thread Dan Volker
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk McLoren Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 6:12 PM To: biofuel Subject: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35% I have my doubts Kirk Aerielle Louise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35% http

RE: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35%

2005-04-07 Thread dwoodard
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk McLoren Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 6:12 PM To: biofuel Subject: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35% I have my doubts Kirk Aerielle Louise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35% http://pesn.com/2005/03/ 17

RE: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35%

2005-04-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35% I have my doubts Kirk Aerielle Louise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35% http://pesn.com/2005/03/ 17/6900069_Acetone/ Acetone In Fuel Said to Increase Mileage 15-35% - Do you Yahoo

[Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35%

2005-04-06 Thread Kirk McLoren
I have my doubts Kirk Aerielle Louise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35% http://pesn.com/2005/03/ 17/6900069_Acetone/ Acetone In Fuel Said to Increase Mileage 15-35% Readily-available chemical added to gas tank in small proportion improves the fuel's ability to vaporize