Von: ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 20:25 Mittwoch, 30.Mai 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Spark plugs... thoughts and how-to?
Brad,
A quick followup on spark plugs.. I think I found what I was looking for.. A
small, cheap
A quick followup on spark plugs.. I think I found what I was looking for..
A small, cheap, and simple spark gap igniter that takes 5V and produces
1/2 sparks. Less than $20 shipped.
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/11218
Skip to 10:45 on the video to see it working.
Would be strong enough to
Check out he pashen discharge curves:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paschen_Curves.PNG
and you will see that spark length is heavily dependent on the gas
composition and pressure. higher pressure means shorter spark at same
voltage, you won't get a 12mm spark in high pressure H2
Discharging
*…you will see that spark length is heavily dependent on the gas
composition and pressure. Higher pressure means shorter spark at same
voltage, you won't get a 12mm spark in high pressure H2*
This is a good observation. The situation gets more complicated when dust
is suspended in the gas.
*Discharging through 2 spark plugs in parallel will not work either as the
resistance drops massively as soon as a plasma channel forms diverting all
current to one spark plug or other but not both.*
In dusty plasma, it may take some time for the electrical resistance of the
plasma to drop to
Actually maybe you can have too much voltage.
I suspect it may be more power efficient to maintain a continuous plasma
channel with much lower voltages
than to produce a succession of high voltage sparks.
Once a plasma channel is established it can be maintained with lower
voltage and more
I think it might be interesting to take a page out of the playbook of
Robert Godes from Brillouin Energy.
He uses a very high voltage nanosecond pulse that would melt the wire if it
were any longer. The pulse is over before the wire has a chance to heat up.
The same might be true for nano
: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spark plugs... thoughts and how-to?
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Von: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
An: Vortex Vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 21:32 Dienstag, 22.Mai 2012
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Von: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
An: Vortex Vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 7:18 Montag, 21.Mai 2012
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Guenter,
I believe your bickering is misdirected. ...
Did DGT simply make a
mistake
What is a spark-plug anyway?
Designing an apparatus means knowing as good as possible the essential
components and their interaction.
If You go to the junkyard and collect your arbitrary ignition electronics,
ignition-coil, spark-plug, you are probably in for a surprise.
Moderately modern
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 AM
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An: Vortex Vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 7:18
Von: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
An: Vortex Vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 21:32 Dienstag, 22.Mai 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Spark plugs... thoughts and how-to?
Interesting!!!
Glad
jojo
no problem.
Misunderstandings are quite normal.
Anyway.
Ignition
Interesting link on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_hydrogen_welding
It also appears that you can buy vintage tungsten spark plugs. Terry
mentioned Iridium spark plugs... Any thoughts on one versus the other
or using off-the-shelf.. I would prefer to use NPT plugs.
Obviously I don't want
Checking on use of spark plugs with high pressure hydrogen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschen%27s_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paschen_Curves.PNG
Hydrogen appears to have a lower breakdown voltage of about 60-70% of
air at same pressure. So should be able to use an air gap that is
Chan Again Darn It,
http://hydride.has.it/
shows reference to processing FLUID hydrocarbons (mineral oil or propane
perhaps) with arc.
H. Yes, bleeding gas or pumped fluids suggests control
possibilities. Yes, What about this, Gentlemen, could it be that passing
Ni dispersed in oil
I stand in support of Reliable.
I do not discount Chan and the other fellows that follow his design lead as
kooks. On the contrary, their approach may be superior to what Rossi has
done.
As an underlying design principle, I think that it is the shape of the
catalyzing cluster that is important
Axil,
Carbon nanocone properties: http://www.mse.ncsu.edu/CompMatSci/pdf/full3.pdf
most probable spot for emitting tunneling electrons in the presence of
external field
Nanocone production is covered by:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14356007.n05_n06/pdf
page 15, 3.2 from heavy
Von: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 19:10 Sonntag, 20.Mai 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Spark plugs... thoughts and how-to?
Jojo, You must be kidding.
Using a Spark Plug to plug a hole makes absolutely
no sense.
Yes it does
In reply to Guenter Wildgruber's message of Sat, 19 May 2012 09:06:08 +0100
(BST):
Hi,
[snip]
Now the main question is: what do You want the sparks to do?
a) generate H+ ?
b) direct energy into the Ni-powder ?
I'm quite convinced that (a) is correct. (b) would most probably locally melt
Your
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Guenter Wildgruber
gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:
Terry,
I spent a good part of my weekend analyzing/simulating ingnition coils and
studying the possble pitfalls of spark plugs and other important matter.
Maybe a Jacob's Ladder would be a better answer. (humor)
about
sparks and people are free to believe or not to believe. Makes no differnece
to me.
Jojo
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From: Guenter Wildgruber
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spark plugs... thoughts and how
Von: ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 22:07 Freitag, 18.Mai 2012
Betreff: [Vo]:Spark plugs... thoughts and how-to?
Brad,
Can anyone recommend a way to create a single or continuous sparks
with a spark plug
Hi Vortex,
I'm thinking of dusting off my experiments. My LabJack is fixed
(Thanks LabJack guys) and I have some nickel alloy powder I am anxious
to try. And I can add a spark plug easily.
DGT said they can trigger the reaction on demand. It sure seems like
their trigger is a single spark or a
ecat builder wrote:
I'm thinking of dusting off my experiments. My LabJack is fixed
(Thanks LabJack guys) and I have some nickel alloy powder I am anxious
to try. And I can add a spark plug easily.
Good idea. I recommend you try a spark plug.
- Jed
@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:07 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Spark plugs... thoughts and how-to?
Hi Vortex,
I'm thinking of dusting off my experiments. My LabJack is fixed
(Thanks LabJack guys) and I have some nickel alloy powder I am anxious
to try. And I can add a spark plug easily.
DGT said
Hi Brad,
I've been wondering if the spark plug was just being used as a high
pressure plug for the Nickel/H chamber. I checked all the photos for ones
where the spark plug was connected and couldn't find anything definite.
Colin
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:07 AM, ecat builder
:07 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Spark plugs... thoughts and how-to?
Hi Vortex,
I'm thinking of dusting off my experiments. My LabJack is fixed
(Thanks LabJack guys) and I have some nickel alloy powder I am anxious
to try. And I can add a spark plug easily.
DGT said they can trigger the reaction
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