Hello Bob,
I agree with you that Rossi does NOT use nano sized Ni particles. He has
always said that he use micro sized Ni particles. But can you point
explicitly a sentence from Rossi saying he use the carbonyl process or is it
an assumption? I never haerd such claim by Rossi.
It is clear
Arnaud,
I don't believe Rossi uses the carbonyl process, I am referring to high
external surface area Ni micro-particles produced through precipitation of
pure Ni particles from nickel tetracarbonyl liquid. This is a common form
of pure, high active external surface Ni powder used in battery
Bob--
You said, “I don't believe Rossi uses the carbonyl process,…”
I assume you mean Rossi DOES use the carbonyl process to make his nickel
particles.
If you send a copy of your paper to Arnaud send me one also please
frobertc...@hotmail.com
Bob Cook
Sent from Windows
What I meant is that Rossi doesn't make is own starting (un-catalyzed) Ni
particles, he buys them. The Ni powder he buys is produced by the
manufacturer from precipitation of liquid nickel tetracarbonyl. The powder
produced by this process is just pure Ni having a high external surface
area in a
Yes, Rossi buys it from a specialist. Here is the web site of Rossi’s supplier
, if anyone are interested.
http://www.gerlimetalli.it/inglese/ihome.htm
AFAIK – they will not sell you the “special Rossi blend” unless they have
changed their policy, now that he has sold the rights…
The manufacture of these particles is a trade secret that is at the
heart of the NiH reactor technology. This nickel particle is a compound
particle which includes nanowires that host the SPP reaction.
The NiH reactor technology has advanced power concentration over what can
be produced by the
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote:
Yes, data is missing, but there is also ALOT of data available, too.
Unfortunately, it is difficult to even agree on what the facts are!
Like you mention, it's difficult even to agree on what the facts are.
Certainly on this list.
Kivin--
My grasp is based on intuition--not existing theory. I happen to agree with
Don Hodson’s concern about basic physics teachings that do not account for the
energy associated with spin in the mass of the proton and other particles.
Spin energy has always been neglected in my opinion
What does a near-zero K temperature phenomenon have to do with LENR or the
price of wheat?
You are talking about a BEC of Rydberg atoms. That BEC is very heavy and
can only happen at low temperatures. A BEC of Zero mass or near zero mass
bosons can exist at vey high temperatures. So your inbreed
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
What does a near-zero K temperature phenomenon have to do with LENR or the
price of wheat?
You are talking about a BEC of Rydberg atoms. That BEC is very heavy and
can only happen at low temperatures. A BEC of Zero mass or
By what train of careful experimentation was it shown that magnetism has a
huge effect on the fusion or fission cross sections in the kinds of
contexts we're looking at?
ICF via lasers want to get to 6*10^23 electrons per cm-3 to achieve Hot
fusion.
See:
Such an experiment is not easily done. A fellow got a Nobel prize for that
type of experiment not too long ago.
If you want me to build a polariton laser, that is over my head. Since you
don't want to read about it, we might need to wait for Rossi's big reveal.
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:00 AM,
Jones and Bob--
I like this line of thought.
I think the current Mills theory and data indicate that a shrunken hydrogen
molecule can also form. However, I would think it would be likely advance to a
Cooper pair and a Boson as a result. This would make fusion possible.
Shrunken H and D
Very inspiring and well motivated what you say here, Jojo.
It leads, in my opinion to a crucial problem, question:
What is the essential difference between the classic LENR
with Watts of heat release and the new LENR+ a la Rossi and DGT
with enhanced heat release at the kWatts level?
My answer
Peter, thank you for the kind words.
Are you proposing a different mechanism than Axil's Nano antenna NAE to
bootstrap the LENR BEC reaction? Your NAE is dynamically created? Do you
propose nano structures also for your NAE? If you are, you also have to
explain how that surface structure
The simplest answer to these question is YES.
A bit longer one;
- as you know, DGT works by making hydrogen more reactive
and Ni more receptive, if you read their ICCF-17 paper you will see they
are increasing the mobility of the surfaces of Ni crystals- we still have
to see
what exactly can play
Bob,
This line of thought also brings back Lyne atomic oven and MAHG theory of
operation where a shrunken molecules forms between the shrunken atoms… what
happens to this molecular bond when the “shrinkage” factor changes.. if the
disassociation threshold is reduced you have yet another
From: Bob Cook
Jones and Bob-- I like this line of thought.
I think the current Mills theory and data indicate that a
shrunken hydrogen molecule can also form. However, I would think it would
be likely advance to a Cooper pair
One of the possibilities is that there are many types of nano-antennas
formed in the NiH system. When starting up the major carrier of the
reaction are the nanowires. But as the reactor heats up and its energy
output is increased, then the reaction sites may form in the spaces between
Axil, nice insight which also gives support to dynamic formation of plasma in
the Papp engine. I was also one of those who felt self destruction would bring
the reaction to a halt but the Rossi melt down does point to the continued run
away reaction even after the geometry has melted. Like
More...
The nanowire sites are fixed and permanent and the nanoparticle sites are
dynamic an possibly destroyed after the reaction but not necessarily(to be
determined).
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the possibilities is that there are many types
Jones and Bob,
Jones, you said that:
I agree that the BEC is a fiction at elevated temperature,
I don't think Yeong Kim proposes a classical cold temperature BEC as the
source of his fusion. He told me that the condensates he has postulated
form in magnetic traps in the material. So, at
Bob,
I agree with most of what you say. The devil is in the details and we are short
on details.
My great hope is that we will get the data we need from the Swedes this time
around.
Jones
From: Bob Higgins
Jones and Bob,
Jones, you said that:
I agree that the BEC
Fran--
The fact that particles are relativistic in many cosmic reactions and two
particles may be traveling side by side suggests that either gravity or maybe
static (relative to the particles) magnetic fields can cause the shrinking and
fusion to a lower dark state, and this is responsible
From: Bob Higgins
Consider that the DDL state is regarded as being about 511
keV less than H in normal ground state. The mass energy difference between
2 ground state H atoms and a ground state D atom is 1.66 MeV… So, now the
H#2 molecule may only
Bob and Jones--
Rossi has designed his reactor tubes to avoid departure from nucleate boiling
and thus melting of the jacket. The internal nickel has a high heat tolerance
and can stand high temperatures. Gas formation is apparently not a problem for
him and has suggested to me that He is
Jones,
I think you did not understand or agree with what I said previously in
bullet 4).
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
From: Bob Higgins
Consider that the DDL state is regarded as being about 511
keV less than H in
Bob,
I do not necessarily disagree so much as am presenting another option. Since
the electron antineutrino has been overlooked in your hypothesis, there could
be a more accurate way for this to unfold. The half integer spin would be a
problem, as would the source of the antineutrino. It
Rossi claims that he uses nano-nickel particles. I have no idea what the
sintering and melting temperatures of those structures. We know that carbon
nano structures have very good high temperature properties. A Ni-H nano
structure may even be better at high temperatures.
I would not give
Bob,
This is a common misconception. Rossi does NOT use nano-Ni. Rossi uses Ni
particles (from the carbonyl process) that have a high external area and
particle diameter of 4-8 microns. Rossi adds a catalyst, that is believed
to be a nanopowder, to the carbonyl Ni particles and then grows
Jones and Bob--
The di-proton I suggested might be real. Check out CERN below for evidence
of what is called a dibaryon with a short lifetime. Intense magnetic fields
may improve the lifetime. The “new” dibaryon seems like it could be a Cooper
pair to me.
Interesting, but the mass-energy is too high at 2380 MeV.
We would be looking for something around 2000 MeV
From: Bob Cook
Jones and Bob--
The di-proton I suggested might be real. Check out CERN below for evidence
of what is called a dibaryon with a short lifetime.
Thanks for the clarification.
Bob Cook
Sent from Windows Mail
From: Bob Higgins
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 2:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Bob,
This is a common misconception. Rossi does NOT use nano-Ni. Rossi uses Ni
particles (from the carbonyl process)
Bob,
The smaller the material, the lower its sintering temperature - significantly
lower than the melting temp of the bulk material. If you google sintering
nickel, you will find out that this is true. Even at the lower operating
temps of the original ecat (not the hotcat), nanosturctures
Jojo--
I did a little review and agree that most nano sized particles do not like to
much temperature becoming unstable relative to bulk temperature integrity.
Thanks for that correction of my previous comments regarding Ni nano particles.
As noted by Bob Higgins, Rossi does not start with
On 7/21/14, 1:57 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Despite his expertise, or perhaps because of it - Storms appears to be
misguided about Pd-D being relevant for Ni-H. In the opinion of many,
there are better explanations, and they should be heard without the
observers publishing their own book. That
Dear Jones,
It is my duty to be the first to do hara-kiri-seppukku if the
cracking-hydroton combination will be demonstrated to be real-see more
about what I wrote some 2 years ago and have not retracted:
SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING ED STORMS’ NEW LENR THEORY.
These experiments that you want to perform have been done in the science of
nanoplasmonics,
The theory is also well defined regarding energy concentration in
nano-cavities.
Go through the intro on nanoplasmonics that I referred you to. Pay close
attention to the formation of hot spots.
There is
Dear Ruby,
Thank you for making this discussion more serious and fundamental. Please
have a lot of patience with a grumpy old man having unorthodox ideas re
CF/LENR. It seems Nature behaves someetimes as a bad girl, respecting rules
that differ from ours.
You wrote:
* For commercialization to be
Dear Ruby,
i hope you get my message despite typos, I see very badly and wrote
in a G.A.E.- Grandchilden Active Environment.
Peter
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Ruby,
Thank you for making this discussion more serious and fundamental. Please
From: Ruby
Jones, there are five different theories that are currently isolated islands
in a sea of perpetually prototype technology. No one agrees on anything, and
there is no discussion about the assumptions in each theory, about how those
assumptions are plausible, or not, and how the
Let me get it right, so essentially you are saying Ed's theory is not
all its is cracked up to be?
- Davy Crockett, 1835
http://www.knowyourphrase.com/phrase-meanings/Its-Not-All-Its-Cracked-Up-To-Be.html
The world needs more humor.
Stewart
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Jones Beene
I have not yet read the book. But some of the critique here seams odd.
To exaggerate it,
The exes heat in the most researched systeme Pd\D are mainly caused by
chemical effect and errors.
If so I think there are a lesser far-reaching assumption that the
results from the lesser known Ni- P/D
I am advancing toward a LENR GUT thanks to the diet my wife has forced upon me.
On 7/22/14, 1:30 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
Dear Ruby,
Thank you for making this discussion more serious and fundamental. Please
have a lot of patience with a grumpy old man having unorthodox ideas
re CF/LENR. It seems Nature behaves someetimes as a bad girl,
respecting rules that differ from
Chemical effects to modify the spin of hydrogen is a doorway through which
the LENR reaction must pass before the LENR reaction can occur. Hydrogen is
NMR active, its nuclear spin is non zero. A chemical reaction must occur
before hydrogen can undergo fusion. The spin of hydrogen must be reduced
Axil -- What about systems that don't make use of a cold plasma that
generate excess heat? Are these illusory?
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Chemical effects to modify the spin of hydrogen is a doorway through which
the LENR reaction must pass before
The cravens ball system may be one of them, What are the others?
Look at the Piantelli system, He does not heat the hydrogen, but cooper
pairing of hydrogen does occur because two protons enter into the nickel
nucleus as witnessed by the emission of a 6 MeV proton as seen in a cloud
chamber,
Rossi and DGT do manufacture NAE by nano-engineering. They coat their
micro-particles with nanowire.
The tip of a nanowire makes for a more powerful NAE because it has a very
high curvature, it is sharp.
The key to making the NiH reactor work is producing 5 micron nano-powder
with a cover of
On 7/22/14, 7:28 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
*From:*Ruby
Jones, there are five different theories that are currently isolated
islands in a sea of perpetually prototype technology. No one agrees on
anything, and there is no discussion about the assumptions in each
theory, about how those
We just have to put on those special glasses to see it!
Just open up that nanophasmonics introduction.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote:
On 7/22/14, 7:28 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
*From:* Ruby
Jones, there are five different theories that are currently isolated
OK, interesting. I'm glad to see you have put forward some testable
predictions. Ed's theory also puts forward some testable predictions, which
is important. I think the easiest ones should be well advertised and
investigated more thoroughly by those able in the community. Couple things
though:
I think the legacy of Storms’ book, no matter if you agree with all
his theorizing about the exact character of the NAE mechanism, will be
that it opened up a more serious and expansive dialogue about the
importance of NAE.
The community, similar to how it followed the lead of Arata in working
Awhile back, I remember reading a article that the powerful LENR catalyst
potassium carbide or was it bicarbonate, produce cooper pairs of protons.
As proof, the article used high angle electron and neutron scattering
results to show that this chemical produce proton cooper pairing.
This makes
1) Do you think your jargon and/or theory is anymore sensible sounding to a
casual reader than Ed's?
I went to nanoplasmonics because it was where the dot connecting led me.
This science is difficult to follow because it is steeped in quantum
mechanics.
I remember the job I had in trying to
From: Foks0904
I'm glad to see you have put forward some testable
predictions. Ed's theory also puts forward some testable predictions, which
is important. I think the easiest ones should be well advertised and
investigated more thoroughly by those
Jones -- As you're alluding to, the tritium production is miniscule.
Tritium is produced in an alternative reaction pathway in Ed's model, not
the main, and it can't be produced by the same reaction producing neutrons
(which Ed thinks are being produced by a separate fracto-fusion
phenomenon). The
I believe DGT data...ICCF17 has an ash assay that shows production of large
amounts of lithium, boron, and beryllium. Copper is not produced and nickel
is not consumed. If a NiH system is going to work for months and years, you
would expect that the nano-structures would not be consumed in the
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
If his theory were
accurate, there should be plenty of tritium formation in Ni-H. Lots more
than is seen.
d + p → 3He + ɣ (as seen in scattering experiments)
d + n → t + ɣ
Are you thinking of 3He? If Ed Storms is
From: Foks0904
As you're alluding to, the tritium production is miniscule. Tritium is produced
in an alternative reaction pathway in Ed's model, not the main, and it can't be
produced by the same reaction producing neutrons (which Ed thinks are being
produced by a separate fracto-fusion
I wrote:
Are you thinking of 3He? If Ed Storms is right, and deuterium is being
produced in an NiH system, then one might expect 3He from proton capture
afterwards (assuming a lot of assumptions). In Ed's hydroton theory,
there's no clear reason that neutrons would be involved.
Nevermind.
Why call a crack one dimensional when it has a width associated with it? A
hole is more one dimensional.
Dave
Now, cracks actually can be studied, are they predominantly monodimensional as
it is probably desired- chennels or bidimensional, can cracking be controlled?
It has much to
I have no problem with Storms’ theory as it relates to Pd-D. He is the
leading expert on that field - and we can completely ignore Pd-D in the
rest of this discussion, insofar as it relates to my criticism of this book.
OK. Fair enough. I do think a number of people don't make that distinction.
From: Foks0904 .
…But in many cases, under the umbrella of a general process, such as
traditional nuclear reactions, despite the difference, the different isotopes
all tend to follow the same general script in terms of how a reaction path
progresses and generates effects.
Not so!
OK...you sort of lost me. What are you getting at exactly? It doesn't
contradict what I wrote in the slightest. Yeah, fermions bosons play
different roles in nuclear process, in all processes actually -- so what?
Are you referencing a transition to a BEC state in NiH-LENR, something
which is far
See:
https://nanohub.org/resources/1641/download/2006.07.13-sands.pdf
A nanostructure is one dimensional under 100 nanometers in diameter. This
100 nm or less dimension is one that can squeeze electrons. A ballistic
conductor is one in which the electrons are squeezed to produce electrons
that
Are you referencing a transition to a BEC state in NiH-LENR, something
which is far from conclusive or self-evident? BEC theories like Kim's or
Takahashi's, even though I find them attractive, still confront a number of
problems as you probably know.
Great, let us talk about these problems. I
The key to LENR is squeezed electrons. 1 dimensional structures will
squeeze electrons. Putting electrons into a nano-box is the first step in
the LENR process.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:06 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Why call a crack one dimensional when it has a width
I know you can explain them away. That's not much of an accomplishment. Are
you going to take the time to answer the other three questions I posed to
you before we go off on this tangent?
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you referencing a transition to a
From: Foks0904
OK...you sort of lost me. What are you getting at exactly? It doesn't
contradict what I wrote in the slightest. Yeah, fermions bosons play
different roles in nuclear process, in all processes actually -- so what?
John, since are acting as Ed’s spokesperson, I assumed you
Ok, I will pay your price so here is #2
* Do you have a background in science, a self-taught amateur, or somewhere
in between? I don't think it's fair to be completely anonymous when putting
forth some sort of grand unified TOE.*
I have a degree in physics, but make a living as a system
*John, since are acting as Ed’s spokesperson, I assumed you understood a
little QM. Apparently that was not a valid assumption.*
I'm not acting as his spokesman, I speak for myself. You toss out some
vague reference to how fermions bosons act differently in nuclear
reactions, and because I'm
Could it be that the active regions are tiny hole like structures instead of
wide cracks? CNTs are much more uniform in size than random cracks upon the
metal surfaces and I must wonder if a uniform sized structure would encourage
common coupling enhancement.
One reason that I mention CNTs is
Thanks for a bit about your background, I appreciate that. But you still
have two more to go before the toll is paid I'm afraid.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, I will pay your price so here is #2
* Do you have a background in science, a self-taught
I will answer the other two, but I also hope that you will attempt to
understand some Nanoplasmonics. Just read the intro, and concentrate on how
hot spots work. PleaseI need more targets.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for a bit about your
Axil, don't misunderstand, I have definitely read reference material
concerning what you're talking about. I find a lot of it interesting and
possibly suggestive of what might be going on in plasmatic NiH systems. I
don't take any current theory as the truth -- yours or Ed's. I have
questions
I already have a target on my ass for my microwave radar theory so I am of
no help.
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I will answer the other two, but I also hope that you will attempt to
understand some Nanoplasmonics. Just read the intro, and concentrate on how
3) Is it a bad thing to treat Ed's postulates as a guide, even if you
don't like the idea of what the hydrogen interaction entails? It could
serve similarly to Arata's emphasis on the importance of nano-particles.
That had and continues to have a lot of clout in the community -- albeit
From: ChemE Stewart
I already have a target on my ass for my microwave radar theory so I am of no
help.
Glad you didn’t mention the plumber crack… :-)
… hey, you started the wise-cracks …
They have developed a polariton laser that works at room temperature. That
means that polaritons can form coherent and entangled ensembles of SPPs
(BEC) when properly pumped.
See
Exciton and Polariton Condensation
at this point, the idea of plasmon-induced BEC makes a number of leaps of
faith assumptions that I don't think are yet born out by experiment.
I could help you go through those many experiments one at a time.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil, don't
In all this talk about the NAE being a Nanowire, a nanotip, a nanoantenna, a
nanomesh, a nanospike, a nano coating on a nano particle, a nano-this and a
nano-that; people seems to be forgeting the fact that whatever nano structure
the NAE is, it will not survive the temperatures we've seen
When you Google Polariton condensation, you will get 39,000 hits.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
at this point, the idea of plasmon-induced BEC makes a number of leaps of
faith assumptions that I don't think are yet born out by experiment.
I could help
Axil -- How is a plasmon condensate promoting a heat generating effect
in NiH systems? What is the quantum-coherent quasi-particle (aka
soliton) system, connected through a whispering quantum hall effect
between nano-cavities (perhaps being drawn in by nano-whiskers), doing with
the hydrogen to
Thanks for the comment Jojo. I think you make a fair point(s).
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
In all this talk about the NAE being a Nanowire, a nanotip, a
nanoantenna, a nanomesh, a nanospike, a nano coating on a nano particle, a
nano-this and
The way power flows from the fusion reaction to the lattice is based on the
formation of a global BEC. The nuclear reaction feeds the BEC power in
small packets, hundreds of thousands of energy packets spread quantum
mechanically over all the members of the global polariton BEC. The nickel
Axil -- How is a plasmon condensate promoting a heat generating effect
in NiH systems? What is the quantum-coherent quasi-particle (aka
soliton) system, connected through a whispering quantum hall effect
between nano-cavities (perhaps being drawn in by nano-whiskers),
A vortex of electrons and
Jones,
You are positing that Ni-H fusion must be something completely different
than a Pd-D fusion due to the fact that a hydrogen nucleus (proton) is a
fermion and a deuterium nucleus (proton + neutron) is a boson.
Integer spin particles, Bosons, are not subject to the Pauli exclusion
Axil -- OK, but how is the fusion reaction initiated in this model? The
magnetic nano-antennae traps bring the hydrogen to the NAE (which is what
exactly?) and then what happens? Basically Kim's theory? Where else,
experimentally, has a BCE exhibited the tendency to initiate fusion?
Why would the
Axil, How exactly does the BEC of polaritons protect the nickel nanowire from
the high temps. Is it some kind of metaphasic shielding? Shielding that
stops temperature and radiation from penetrating?
How about the rest of the nickel bulk material? How is that protected from the
high temps?
*...doing with the hydrogen to produce observed excess heat?*
Based on the LENR system, the magnetic field could grow so strong that it
causes pions to condense out of the vacuum and these pions cause the matter
inside the volume of the magnetic field potential to became disrupted.
These
Considering DGT likely botched a simple demo last July, I'm not as
confident in their technical know-how as I once was.
DGT had a hard time with the demo because of RF interference with their
test equipment and computers. This is caused by nuclear magnetic resanance
active elements that convert
Axil -- What if I don't connect the same dots from the material you
provide, all of which comes from either (1) outside the field of LENR, or
(2) is based on speculative findings, that may or may not be true once more
serious replications are undertaken? Would that make me wrong and you
right? Do
Maybe. Maybe not. Though I don't believe them to be fraudulent, you haven't
even entertained the idea that DGT may play fast loose with data they
release to the public and company insiders? It's at the very least raised
doubts in my mind. I think that's a very faithful attitude of yours to have
I have put forth the nanoplasmonic experiments done with lasers.
Repeated many times in previous posts and except in part as follows:
have referenced papers here to show how the confinement of electrons on
the surface of gold nanoparticles: a nanoplasmonic mechanism can change the
half-life of
Bob,
Good point, and we did discuss some of this before. However, there are two
differences which could be important. Not sure if they came up earlier.
Deuterium is a nuclear boson. We do not need to invoke BEC at all for
tunneling of one nuclear boson into another nuclear boson. Therefore the
DGT has released data that they should have never released because the
magnetic theory of LENR was not well developed.
Their data was central explaining to the real causation of LENR.
I judge them to be completely honest and interested in the science of LENR.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:55 PM,
OK, so these papers are basically saying hot fusion/fission is occurring in
these nano-plasmon environments, right? Now the trick of course is proving
that a coherent BEC state, that links together a phase-coherent
quantum-system (aka soliton) then dissipates all that mass energy through
systemic
The BEC buffers the release of energy by widely spreading it out over many
NAE. The is something called quantum mechanical blockade that makes sure no
one NAE get more energy than the others.
When there is no BEC formed, a gamma is produced by the sole NAE and the
NAE is destroyed. A LENR system
Axil -- this sounds a bit similar to Widom-Larsen's magic gamma shield.
Maybe there is evidence for energy distribution in a BEC polariton system
-- but these are observed only outside LENR systems, in very selective
environments, and last I checked all NiH generating systems don't require
the
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