Bikies, The last few times I used the left arm up to signal a right turn 15 years ago, people thought I was waving to them. I haven't used the left arm up since. The problem with the left arm up signal is that despite what state law says, most motorists don't know what it means anymore.
I agree with Robbie's comments. I always point with either my left or right arm and I am not one to hug the curb so visibility of my signal is not an issue. Motorists always get the message as long as they see me in the first place. However, I don't think which way you signal a right turn is a big issue and both ways of signaling a right run should be allowed by state law. So Robbie, what is your "Back off, and don't be an idiot to pass me on a blind hill" signal? Mark Shahan On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Dave Minden <[email protected]>wrote: > Here's the advice on the website of the League of American Bicyclists, > which > claims to have 300,000 bicyclists affiliated with it: > # Signaling > > * Signal well before the intersection; make sure you are in proper lane > position > * Left arm out and down with palm to the rear to indicate stopping > * Left or right arm straight out to indicate left or right turn > > Dave Minden > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Dave Minden; 'Mark Clear'; 'bikies' > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Signaling a right turn with the right hand > > Thank you. And found this... > > 346.35 Method of giving signals on turning and stopping. Whenever a stop or > turn signal is required by s. 346.34, such signal may in any event be given > by a signal lamp or lamps of a type meeting the specifications set forth in > s.347.15. Except as provided in s.347.15, such signals also may be given by > the hand and arm in lieu of or in addition to signals by signal lamp. When > given by hand and arm, such signals shall be given from the left side of > the > vehicle in the following manner and shall indicate as follows: > (1) Left turn-Hand and arm extended horizontally. (2) Right turn-Hand and > arm extended upward. (3) Stop or decrease speed-Hand and arm extended > downward. > > http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/vehicle/bicycle/docs/bikelaws.pdf > > pax, kel > > robert paolino writes: > > > On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 21:07 -0500, Dave Minden wrote: > >> My understanding is that several years ago it became legal if not > >> recommended for bicyclists to signal right turns with the right hand. > >> Remember, the original left hand for right turn was from when cars > >> were first made and did not have blinkers for signaling. Pretty outdated > now... > > > > Recommended?? I would think that the traditional right turn signal > > would be preferable both because it's the side a motorist is more > > likely to see, and because if I'm going to have only one hand on a > > brake, I'd rather it be the right hand if I need to use it. > > > > -- > > Now go have a beer, > > > > Bob Paolino > > > > "Are Canadians just Americans who carry hockey sticks instead of guns, > > or is there more to it than that?" > > --"This Canadian Existence" > > Wisconsin Public Radio > > > > ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign > > X against HTML e-mail: > > / \ Friends don't send friends HTML-bloated messages! > > > > A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > > Q: Why is top-posting frowned upon? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > -- Mark N. Shahan ------ __o 607 Piper Drive ------- _`\<,_ Madison, WI 53711-1338 ---- (*)/ (*) (608) 274-9367 [email protected]
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