Kris, Cars are now equipped with lighted signals. Although I agree that teaching kids hand signals is a fine idea, it's a bit like teaching them how to use a slide-rule. Good in a pinch, but calculators do the trick.
-India *********************** India Viola Stretton Lab Zoology Research Bldg. 1117 W. Johnson St. Madison, WI 53706 608.262.3336 *********************** "How can we learn from our mistakes if we don't first acknowledge them?" -Anonymous "We exist in the bacterial world, not bacteria in ours" -Stuart Levy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristine M. Niemann" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:16 am Subject: Re: [Bikies] Signaling a right turn with the right hand To: [email protected] > So does anyone know what are the cops teaching the kiddos in school > these days about bike safety and hand signals? That's where I learned > the hand signals, right of way, which side of the street to walk/ bike > , etc. Maybe cops don't do safety lessons in schools anymore, but I > don't understand why kids (now drivers) wouldn't have learned the > proper hand signals from their parents. If the standard bent-hand > right turn signal is so foreign to youth, it sounds like we need some > education on this. > kris > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Rewey <[email protected]> > To: bikies <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:06:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Signaling a right turn with the right hand > > > And there are times when using the left arm to signal a right turn can > look like an unwelcome > gesture.... Happen to me one winter and the driver behind me followed > me into the parking > lot I was going into. Yikes. > > Now I point with my right arm/hand. > > Mike Rewey > > ******************* > On 19 May 2009 at 10:56, Mark Shahan wrote: > > Bikies, > > The last few times I used the left arm up to signal a right turn 15 > years ago, people thought I > was waving to them. I haven't used the left arm up since. The > problem with the left arm up > signal is that despite what state law says, most motorists don't know > what it means anymore. > > I agree with Robbie's comments. I always point with either my left or > right arm and I am not > one to hug the curb so visibility of my signal is not an issue. > Motorists always get the > message as long as they see me in the first place. However, I don't > think which way you > signal a right turn is a big issue and both ways of signaling a right > run should be allowed by > state law. > > So Robbie, what is your "Back off, and don't be an idiot to pass me on > a > blind hill" signal? > > Mark Shahan > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Dave Minden < > [email protected] > wrote: > Here's the advice on the website of the League of American Bicyclists, > which > claims to have 300,000 bicyclists affiliated with it: > # Signaling > > * Signal well before the intersection; make sure you are in proper > lane > position > * Left arm out and down with palm to the rear to indicate stopping > * Left or right arm straight out to indicate left or right turn > > Dave Minden > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] > ] > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Dave Minden; 'Mark Clear'; 'bikies' > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Signaling a right turn with the right hand > > Thank you. And found this... > > 346.35 Method of giving signals on turning and stopping. Whenever a > stop or > turn signal is required by s. 346.34, such signal may in any event be > given > by a signal lamp or lamps of a type meeting the specifications set > forth in > s.347.15. Except as provided in s.347.15, such signals also may be > given by > the hand and arm in lieu of or in addition to signals by signal lamp. > When > given by hand and arm, such signals shall be given from the left side > of the > vehicle in the following manner and shall indicate as follows: > (1) Left turn-Hand and arm extended horizontally. (2) Right turn-Hand > and > arm extended upward. (3) Stop or decrease speed-Hand and arm extended > downward. > > > http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/vehicle/bicycle/docs/bikelaws.pdf > > > pax, kel > > robert paolino writes: > > > On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 21:07 -0500, Dave Minden wrote: > >> My understanding is that several years ago it became legal if not > >> recommended for bicyclists to signal right turns with the right hand. > >> Remember, the original left hand for right turn was from when cars > >> were first made and did not have blinkers for signaling. Pretty outdated > now... > > > > Recommended?? I would think that the traditional right turn signal > > would be preferable both because it's the side a motorist is more > > likely to see, and because if I'm going to have only one hand on a > > brake, I'd rather it be the right hand if I need to use it. > > > > -- > > Now go have a beer, > > > > Bob Paolino > > > > "Are Canadians just Americans who carry hockey sticks instead of guns, > > or is there more to it than that?" > > --"This Canadian Existence" > > Wisconsin Public Radio > > > > ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign > > X against HTML e-mail: > > / \ Friends don't send friends HTML-bloated messages! > > > > A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > > Q: Why is top-posting frowned upon? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > > > -- > Mark N. 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