The BMW UUC Digest Volume 1 : Issue 23 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Bleeding question Re: Bleeding question Re: Bleeding question Strange E46 radio behavior Re: Bleeding question e36 Rear Control Arm Replacement Re: e36 Rear Control Arm Replacement E30 with Mustang injector seal kits (calling Michael McCoy!) My Recaros on Ebay Re: '88' 3254is no spark Re: '88' 3254is no spark Admin: Subject lines. E30 325i Emmission Question Re: E30 325i Emmission Question Re: E30 325i Emmission Question
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:13:26 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bleeding question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chris, I don't know of any specific E36 issues, but here is my generic answer. On some models (like the E30), the hose for the clutch slave connects high up on the reservoir. If the fluid level is low enough for air to get into the brake lines, then it certainly is also low enough for air to get into the clutch line. So, just to be safe, you bleed the clutch while you're bleeding the brakes. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >I've seen/heard it recommended numerous times to make sure the clutch >slave has been bled when people are having issues with a soft/low >pedal. > >Perhaps I don't understand the system properly. Is the clutch side of >the reservoir not dedicated? I'm under the impression it is, at least >on my E36, and would be surprised to hear otherwise. If the clutch >circuit had air in it, is it possible that this could be felt in the >brake pedal? How? I always bleed the slave when doing a flush, but I >don't see the need when just doing brake work. Please correct me if I'm >wrong. > >Chris B. >'94 325i ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:18:27 -0500 From: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bleeding question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So the E30 doesn't have a separate side to the reservoir like the E36s? On an E36, the clutch side of the reservoir doesn't even start to fill up until the brake side is nearly full, so of course draining one side doesn't affect the other. Chris B. '94 325i -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:13 PM To: Chris Baker Cc: UUC Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] Bleeding question Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris, I don't know of any specific E36 issues, but here is my generic answer. On some models (like the E30), the hose for the clutch slave connects high up on the reservoir. If the fluid level is low enough for air to get into the brake lines, then it certainly is also low enough for air to get into the clutch line. So, just to be safe, you bleed the clutch while you're bleeding the brakes. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:29:08 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bleeding question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It does have a divider, but the divider is not so high that fluid couldn't slosh out of one side into the other under some, um, extreme driving conditions. Besides, just as a general rule, if you're bleeding the brakes, why not bleed the clutch hydraulics too? The fluid is just as old. Then again, like I said, I'm no E36 expert. I'm curious: Why would you not want to bleed the cutch at the same time? Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >So the E30 doesn't have a separate side to the reservoir like the E36s? >On an E36, the clutch side of the reservoir doesn't even start to fill >up until the brake side is nearly full, so of course draining one side >doesn't affect the other. > >Chris B. >'94 325i > >>Chris, I don't know of any specific E36 issues, but here is my generic >>answer. On some models (like the E30), the hose for the clutch slave >>connects high up on the reservoir. If the fluid level is low enough for >>air to get into the brake lines, then it certainly is also low enough >>for >>air to get into the clutch line. So, just to be safe, you bleed the >>clutch >>while you're bleeding the brakes. >> >>Scott Miller >>GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:26:08 -0800 From: "Eric Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Strange E46 radio behavior Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The stock cassette radio in my 2001 325iT is acting strange. Anytime I switch to FM (either upon radio power-up or from AM or CD) and the first time I push one of the steering wheel scan station preset buttons, it always goes to preset #4 no matter what. Subsequent presses of the preset buttons go through the stations in the proper order. Does anyone know what's going on? Is there a way to reset the radio, short of disconnecting the battery? Or will it take a dealer visit to resolve this problem? TIA! Eric Liu '01 325iT ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:51:54 -0500 From: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bleeding question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No, I didn't mention it in the first post. My initial question was more general. I tackled the specifics of my problem in a post a few weeks ago. Chris B. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:44 PM To: Chris Baker Subject: RE: [UUC] Bleeding question Yes, climbing under the car is a PITA. Correct, if no problems with the clutch, air in the brake side should *probably* not affect the clutch side - *normally*. Yes, the pedal slowly going to the floor is a master cylinder symptom. And guess what? When you replace it, you'll have to remove the reservoir, and when you put in the new MC, you'll have to bleed everything, including the damn clutch. Did you mention the pedal going to the floor in the first post? If so, sorry I tried to steer you in the wrong direction. That is a dead giveaway. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:56:54 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: e36 Rear Control Arm Replacement Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I looked up the procedure in my Bentley manual and unfortunately it is not as easy as they make it out to be. I'm replacing the rear lower control arms (wishbones) on my 1996 M3 and am having difficulty with clearance for removal of the top bolt. Once the bolt is loose and ready to pull its clearance is stopped by the differential housing making it impossible to completely slide out . It seems like the differential has to be lifted ever so slightly (I would guess ~ 1/2" will do it) just so the top bolt can be removed. Has anyone else struggled with this? Is that assumption correct? Do I have to loosen (or remove) the diff's 3 mounting bolts and raise it to gain the necessary clearance or am I missing something else? Any insight or tricks you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:32:07 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: e36 Rear Control Arm Replacement Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I looked up the procedure in my Bentley manual and unfortunately it is > not as easy as they make it out to be. > > I'm replacing the rear lower control arms (wishbones) on my 1996 M3 and > am having difficulty with clearance for removal of the top bolt. Once > the bolt is loose and ready to pull its clearance is stopped by the > differential housing making it impossible to completely slide out . It > seems like the differential has to be lifted ever so slightly (I would > guess ~ 1/2" will do it) just so the top bolt can be removed. Has anyone > else struggled with this? Is that assumption correct? Do I have to loosen > (or remove) the diff's 3 mounting bolts and raise it to gain the necessary > clearance or am I missing something else? Tony, Yes, yes, yes. You will need to remove the rubber diff bushings and lift it up as high as it will go. That will give you just enough room to remove the inboard rear control arm attachment bolt. Of course the rear sway bar will be in the way of removing the rear diff bushings. So that one will have to come off as well. Thus what looks like a simple 1 hour job turns into a 3-4 hour project. On the plus side, once you set both rear wheels to about the same max negative camber, it will be close enough to perfect to skip a trip to the alignment rack. Notice - I would still recommend paying for an allignment to buy a peace of mind. But in the 3 E36s that I had worked on to replace rear lower control arms, all 3 were within stock camber range. If you are going to do an alignment, I would invest the time into replacing the rear trailing arm bushings as well (RTABs). If your car has 60-100K miles on the original bushings, there is a 50:50 chance they are due for a replacement. Driving on torn-up RTABs may lead to the failure of RTAB bracket attachment threads == $$$. Hope this helps, alex f ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:49:37 -0600 From: "dan hagrman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: E30 with Mustang injector seal kits (calling Michael McCoy!) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All, Question about the 89-94 Mustang injector kits ($2.39 ea at OReillys) is the blue pintle instead of yellow--has anyone tried the blue pintle caps in their e30? If so I'll be very happy; the blue caps looked taller than the yellow ones (?). btw Tagging Michael because he said the kit will work, wondering if that's empirical knowledge. thanks, dan in kc, e30s ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:00:53 -0800 From: "Clan Hood-Douda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: My Recaros on Ebay Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gratuitous self-serving advertisement for a pair of gen-u-ine Recaro Automotive Seats, Style Model, aftermarket, not OEM. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=33701 &item=2443657311 http://tinyurl.com/vf9f Thank you for this moment of your valuable day. Please continue with the regular discussion. Mike --------------------------------------- Clan Hood-Douda - Arcadia Farm Lacomb, Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:07:59 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Vijeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: '88' 3254is no spark Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If the timing belt is broken he is going to have much more probelms than just no spark or voltage. You are guranteed to bend at least a few valves, if not all any time the t-belt breaks (or event slips a single tooth) on an M20. Having said that, the ignition problem could be the engine speed sensor (ie: forgot the plug it in ). Rich >TR wrote: > >A friend has an 88 325is , the timing belt broke a tooth >and he is replacing it. Now he has no spark and no >voltage at the coil. Is this a sign of a bad ecu? Thanks >in advance for any help. >Paulo > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:22:33 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list) Subject: Re: '88' 3254is no spark Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From Richard Vijeh > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >If the timing belt is broken he is going to have much >more probelms than just no spark or voltage. You are >guranteed to bend at least a few valves, if not all >any time the t-belt breaks (or event slips a single >tooth) on an M20. > I agree. When I replaced the timing belt in my M20, I got the belt off by one tooth. When I went to turn the engine over the first two turns to seat the belt I could only go 1/3 revolution in either direction before it was clear that a valve and a piston were trying to share the same space. -- Joe -- Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:43:24 -0500 From: UUC Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Admin: Subject lines. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All, As per the charter of this list, please change your subject line when replying to digest messages. "Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(XX messages)" is not an appropriate subject line. Remember, these rules are here to create a better experience for everyone. Besides, someone might miss your reply because they aren't tracking that subject line. As a reminder, here is a link to the digest rules: http://www.uucdigest.com/listinfo/index.html Michael K Donohue System Administrator UUC Digest http://www.uucdigest.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:01:03 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E30 325i Emmission Question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Car is my middle daughter's, has failed emissions three times for Hydrocarbons and Oxides of Nitrogen. 150K 1987 325iS with auto. Has two year old DEC cat from Steve D'G, passed tailpipe test two years ago, required to have dyno 240 second test now. First: I visually inspected it and replaced cap and rotor, changed oil. HC 2.5541 vs 1.8 state standard NOx 5.4891 vs 2.8 state standard $29 test fee. Paid to have it inspected by a shop and they said only needed injector cleaning, $190 for their inspection and "MotorVac." HC 2.6948 vs 1.8 state standard NOx 7.5185 vs 2.8 state standard Waived test fee. Paid to have it inspected by another shop and they replaced O2 sensor, spark plugs, air filter and adjusted the valves tighter than my adjustment. $408.11. HC 2.1782 vs 1.8 state standard NOx 4.6600 vs 2.8 state standard $29.00 test fee. Any recommendations gratefully considered (short of explosives!). TIA, Ed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:18:10 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E30 325i Emmission Question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What is the state limit for spending on a repair before you get waived? Also, what are the measurements? GPM, %, PPM? Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > I visually inspected it and replaced cap and rotor, changed oil. > HC 2.5541 vs 1.8 state standard > NOx 5.4891 vs 2.8 state standard $29 test fee. >Paid to have it inspected by a shop and they said only needed injector > cleaning, $190 for their inspection and "MotorVac." > HC 2.6948 vs 1.8 state standard > NOx 7.5185 vs 2.8 state standard Waived test fee. > Paid to have it inspected by another shop and they replaced O2 sensor, > spark plugs, air filter and adjusted the valves tighter than my > adjustment. $408.11. > HC 2.1782 vs 1.8 state standard > NOx 4.6600 vs 2.8 state standard $29.00 test fee. > Ed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:36:56 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E30 325i Emmission Question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Measurements are in GPM, I don't know the dollar limits, but certainly they are less than what I have spent. I am unwilling to knowingly drive a poorly performing car, however, and am considering this next "fee free" test as validation of a correct repair. Thanks, Ed KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: >What is the state limit for spending on a repair before you get waived? > >Also, what are the measurements? GPM, %, PPM? > >>I visually inspected it and replaced cap and rotor, changed oil. >>HC 2.5541 vs 1.8 state standard >>NOx 5.4891 vs 2.8 state standard $29 test fee. >>Paid to have it inspected by a shop and they said only needed injector >>cleaning, $190 for their inspection and "MotorVac." >>HC 2.6948 vs 1.8 state standard >>NOx 7.5185 vs 2.8 state standard Waived test fee. >>Paid to have it inspected by another shop and they replaced O2 sensor, >>spark plugs, air filter and adjusted the valves tighter than my >>adjustment. $408.11. >>HC 2.1782 vs 1.8 state standard >>NOx 4.6600 vs 2.8 state standard $29.00 test fee. >>Ed >> >> > > > ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
