The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 1 : Issue 45 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Re: '95 slam-no longer
  Re: '95 slam-no longer
  Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol?
  Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol?
  Re: [uuc] oil in intake manifold, M30 engine
  Re: intermittent shimmy (even) with new tires?
  Re: intermittent shimmy (even) with new tires?
  Re: intermittent shimmy (even) with new tires?
  M52 air pump
  Re: Still E30 fuel woes
  E36 M3 Problems.
  E30 items on eBay and more
  UPDATE:  Replaced valve cover gaskets on my 2000 M5
  Re: E-46
  Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol? (OT)

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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:19:26 -0500
From: "Rick Cardinal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Jason O'Dell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '95 slam-no longer
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Don't know about a site....but I think later than 1/95 would be
advantageous. Seems like someone said the major engine issues were
resolved after 8/95.

Mine is 11/95...probably one of the last '95's. The vin comes up as a
'96 on a copy of the ETK I have, but it is a '95.

Rick


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> Fella's, with all this banter about the 95's going, is there 
> a good website 
> about the production date info?, are any past 1/95 the best?, I am 
> considering one in the near future.
> 
> Jason
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:31:34 -0800
From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rick Cardinal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Jason O'Dell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '95 slam-no longer
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My car was built on 1/95. I traded it in at past 100K miles,
I had no problems and the car hit redline (AA chip) at least
three, four times a day, and was autocrossed rather heavily.

On the maintenance front, the only unexpected item was a leaky radiator  
neck
at 95K miles covered by extended warranty and a water pump thrown in
for good measure.

Personally, I would take a 95 over a 96+ M3 any day. OBD-I, easier to  
mod
and when the engine finally goes, you can drop in a euro engine.

Bora

On Thursday, Dec 4, 2003, at 16:19 US/Pacific, Rick Cardinal wrote:

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> Don't know about a site....but I think later than 1/95 would be
> advantageous. Seems like someone said the major engine issues were
> resolved after 8/95.
>
> Mine is 11/95...probably one of the last '95's. The vin comes up as a
> '96 on a copy of the ETK I have, but it is a '95.
>
> Rick
>
>
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>> Fella's, with all this banter about the 95's going, is there
>> a good website
>> about the production date info?, are any past 1/95 the best?, I am
>> considering one in the near future.
>>
>> Jason
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:19:47 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Steve, fortunately the bulk of the smog generated in the corn-growing,
ethanol-manufacturing process gets left in the Mid-West and does not
otherwise affect the air in California.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:05:47 -0500
>From: Steve Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol?
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Bora writes
><Oxygenated gas actually results in more green house gas emissions due
>to the lower fuel economy with oxygenates.>
>
>Not to mention the fuel, fertilizer, pesticide and energy to grow, harvest
>and process the corn into alchohol.....
>Steve Stoner



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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:06:08 -0500
From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Unfortunately it ends up in the Adirondacks and other eastern areas and
kills off the land...especially caused by the power generation plants.

David

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Steve, fortunately the bulk of the smog generated in the corn-growing,
ethanol-manufacturing process gets left in the Mid-West and does not
otherwise affect the air in California.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:05:47 -0500
>From: Steve Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol?
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Bora writes
><Oxygenated gas actually results in more green house gas emissions due
>to the lower fuel economy with oxygenates.>
>
>Not to mention the fuel, fertilizer, pesticide and energy to grow, harvest
>and process the corn into alchohol.....
>Steve Stoner


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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:59:19 -0500
From: "Kelly and Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'bmw list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] oil in intake manifold, M30 engine
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Newbee here. Has anyone done an e36 engine swap into an e30 that would
be willing to talk with me? I am considering the conversion and would
really appreciate any advise. 
Thanks
Robert
88 325ic

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Subject: Re: [uuc] oil in intake manifold, M30 engine

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>From JSN
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>- several suggestions to check the PCV valve on the car; the M30
doesn't
>have one.
>
>Any other thoughts?
>

What about the oil baffle in the valve cover. It is supposed to keep the
oil
from making it up the breather hose. Perhaps it is um, broken (not that
I
have any idea how you could break this)?

Head over heating leading to more vaporized oil that condenses in the
intakes?

Martians?

-- Joe, reaching

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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:10:12 -0800
From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Langsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: intermittent shimmy (even) with new tires?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 9:08 PM -0500 12/3/03, Langsten wrote:
>Shocks, are yours original?? Our experience shows the E36 shocks as
>installed by the factory are trash after 50K

Shocks have 9k miles on them.

>Tie rod ends,  Absolute ZERO wear, any clearance here will cause problems.
>Alignment , correct with proper weighting of car!!!
>rear control arm bushings, if these are original, replace, these go soft and
>don't show tears or cracks. Tire pressures may need very minor adjustments, play with 
>this.

Alignment is going to be the next task in ~100k suspension refresh of car, but I 
wanted to get this unplanned problem sorted out first.  New control arms/bushings in 
place.  Front end was recently inspected by chapter wrench/tech and found to be sound.

I neglected to mention that these are standard BMW 16" wheels with 225 tires, so it's 
not a difficult or problematic combo.  The shimmy arrived with the new tires, so I 
consider them the prime suspects.  The wheels are even mounted in the same corners 
they were before.

>Also, inspect the left side of the steering rack, we have found numerous
>racks recently that are worn on this end, and don't leak!  Extend the rack
>to the left, attempt to move rack by grabbing boot and moving forward and
>back.

Interesting; I was wondering what the average life span of E36 racks is.

>Mario L.
>www.VSR1.com
>Vintage Sports & Racing, LLC
>3 Robinson Rd.  Bow, NH 03304              603-228-2888

thanks,
Herman  


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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:17:51 -0500
From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Herman Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: intermittent shimmy (even) with new tires?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Also I have found out of round tires, tires that have stiff and soft areas,
etc.  See if you can borrow a set of known good wheels/tires and see if it
goes away.

David

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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Herman Chan
Subject: Re: intermittent shimmy (even) with new tires?


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Sounds like a dynamic imbalance.  The front tires try to shake side to side.
When they are in phase, they add together and you feel it.  When the shakes
are opposite, they cancel in the steering rack and you don't feel it.

One thing I always do when fitting new tires is to measure the wheel runout,
then mount the tires so the harmonic mark is at the low spot of the wheel
runout.

Gary Derian

>
> I just had a set of new BS RE750 tires installed on my E36 coupe, but
> something doesn't seem right.
>
> Despite repeated attempts at rebalancing by two different shops (in
> the same chain), they can't seem to get rid of a slight shimmy in the
> steering wheel at highway speeds, particularly in the 65-75 sweet
> spot.  Slower or faster is no problem, and I think I've isolated it
> to one pair of tires by rotating front to back.  This shop doesn't
> use the GSP9700 balancing machines, so they can't take road force
> measurements.
>
> All front suspension parts, aside from tie rods, are relatively
> fresh.  There weren't any problems with the old tires that were just
> replaced; the only variable that has changed is the tires.
>
> What I can't figure out is why the shimmy seems to come and go.  It
> may be fine on one stretch of road, but throw in a few turns, and it
> comes back strongest in mid bend, the goes away again, maybe as the
> phase of the wheels change.  Or perhaps old tie rods are amplifying a
> slight balance problem?  How much vibration is officially/typically
> acceptable anyway?
>
> Any suggestions?  I can probably make use of the 30 day satisfaction
> guarantee, but I'm otherwise happy with the tires so far.
>
> Herman
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Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:11:04 -0800
From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: intermittent shimmy (even) with new tires?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 10:30 PM -0500 12/3/03, Gary Derian wrote:
>Sounds like a dynamic imbalance.  The front tires try to shake side to side.
>When they are in phase, they add together and you feel it.  When the shakes
>are opposite, they cancel in the steering rack and you don't feel it.

That's what I suspect...or maybe defective tires.

>One thing I always do when fitting new tires is to measure the wheel runout,
>then mount the tires so the harmonic mark is at the low spot of the wheel
>runout.

Unfortunately, I don't think that is the normal procedure; mediocre work seems to be 
the standard today.

Most customers don't notice or complain if the work performed has only been 'good 
enough' to get out the door.  The tire shop people have been gracious, but 3+ hours of 
work expended thus far to rectify what should have only taken 1 hour to do correctly 
isn't a good way to do business for either me or them.

thanks,
Herman


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Date: Thu,  4 Dec 2003 22:03:06 -0500 (EST)
From: "John Stoj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: M52 air pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


What Neil said.

Actually, I'll add my $.02.  I was told that if you park the car overnight in heavy 
dew conditions it accelerates the ingestion of water into the pump.  I was also told 
that sometimes if the pump is working intermittently you can open it and dry it out as 
a fix.  I left the pump alone while it was failing for at least six months.  The CEL 
would trip every few weeks or so (more often when it was raining or really humid) with 
"secondary air flow insufficient" codes.  I just kept resetting the light with the 
Peake tool.  Recently, however, I began to get oxygen sensor codes in addition to the 
others, so I thought it would be a good idea to replace the pump and try to save the 
OS.  Maybe the one won't affect the life of the other, but...

And do be careful with the little rubber bits.

- John S.


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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:08:43 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Still E30 fuel woes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Joe,

Good luck with that flu.... the porcelain phone is your friend..... I
wonder if a bad battery cell or loose ground might also be your problem.
How much weight are you carrying on your key chain? Does the ignition
switch still have noticeable detents?

-Kevin


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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:18:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E36 M3 Problems.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Peter:

As I said before, there are no significant problems
with the E36 M3 and that is not the reason I've never
really wanted one.  In fact, I drive a known
high-maint E34 M5 myself and did not shirk from _it_
on account of the maint.  My decision is an emotional
one.  If the M3 grabs you, get one.  It won't let you
down on account of lack of competence.

CERTAINLY, at a $7250 price for the car that Kirk
described there are no problems that would make a
purchase a bad deal.  You could pay to have the
retainers replaced, though I imagine they fail only
after prolonged high RPM running for the most part,
and still come out in good shape.

A friend in ATL, drove one to 190k miles w/o issues. 
He is not mechanically inclined, but an enthusiast
owner so he was taking care of it, but not personally
fixing every little thing constantly to nurse it to
that mileage.

Neil Deshpande
92 M5 - shared the drive with an M3 LTW for several
months

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"Lorenzetti, Peter - BLS CTR"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I respect your 'not wanting' an e36 M3.  For those of
us who do: I am curious about the problems associated
with the '95 model year as that is the first to become
affordable and it has OBD-I.

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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:59:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Kyle Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: E30 parts list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E30 items on eBay and more
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a full set of tan door panels and more on ebay
take a look at:

<http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=bmw92510>
or
<http://tinyurl.com/xtlg>

Thanks

Kyle Sanchez

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 00:18:05 -0800
From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UPDATE:  Replaced valve cover gaskets on my 2000 M5
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Group,

Just wanted to give some insight on this repair.  My 2000 M5 was leaking
oil from the passenger-side valve cover gasket.  Subsequently, I took it
to a reputable independent facility and was quoted $500 to $550.  I
couldn't justify this amount so I decided to do it myself after spending
about $50 on gaskets, o-ring seals and gasket treatments.  The entire
process took me about three and a half hours.  Of that time, the drivers
side gasket consumed about two and a half hours of the entire procedure.


On that side, there are some various high-pressure hoses towards the
firewall that make removing that portion of the valve cover murder.  The
TIS tells you to loosen the oil-filter assembly and that will
'significantly' assist in the procedure.

It didn't.  

If anything, one should unplug the oil pressure switch from the housing
and tuck that wire away somewhere.  Loosening the entire filter assembly
didn't help because it was limited in travel due to the fact that the
oil lines were still attached.  

The intake comes off easily enough (after you remove approximately 61
bolts/screws.  Also, as soon as you remove the intake cover, it is
helpful to number the intake funnels so that you reinstall them
correctly and in the right order.  

Just when you think that 61 bolts/screws should be enough, don't forget
to remove the four hoses attached to the bottom of the intake!

Chris
89 M3 http://www.inlacal.com
91 M5
93 850ci
98 M Roadster
00 M5
01 X5




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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:26:05 -0800 (PST)
From: John Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E-46
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 06:53 PM 12/3/03, Peter Guagenti wrote:
> > Unless you just want the status of an M car,
sounds like the E46 
non-M
> > would be the right car for you.
> words...words....words...
>, and much better 
looks

Yea, if you can get past that Bangled E-46 4dr
roofline :)

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:00:42 -0500
From: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol? (OT)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


"Ethanol is made from corn."
"Oxygenated gas actually results in more green house gas emissions due
to the lower fuel economy with oxygenates."
-Bora

Fact:
Ethanol can be and is produced from any bio-mass.  Yes this includes
corn, but also includes forestry waste, sugar cane and virtually
anything plant-like.  Corn is the most popular starting point in the US
(but NOT other countries) for Ethanol production because of it's
relatively low cost and availability.  The simple starch and sugars in
corn make it easy to produce ethanol from.  It makes the most sense for
making grain alcohol and in a slightly less pure form the ethanol used
as a fuel/additive.

Fact:
Green house gas emissions are measure in grams per mile, NOT miles per
gallon.  The fuel economy has nothing directly to do with it.  NOx
emissions are reduced when burning ethanol compared to burning gasoline
due to the lower flame temps.
The advantages of ethanol are strong:
Octane enhancement (it's roughly 107 octane once it's denatured)
Displacement of imported oil as an alternative
Knock resistance due to cooler burning and higher octane
Reduced NOx emissions due to cooler burn temps
Natural product and process that does not contaminate the environment
nearly as much as it's alternatives.
It's a renewable source of energy

The octane increase makes the fuel you buy a lot cheaper than a
comparable high octane pure gasoline.

Sure, ethanol has some significant challenges too (galvanic corrosion,
Reid vapor pressure at low temps, etc) but don't blame it on Midwestern
farmers that you have in in the gas pumps because it's not their fault.
Hey, they grow a product that can be used to make an alternative to a
toxic compound (MTBE) for use in gasoline.  The government dictates that
we must use such an additive so blame them if you have to blame someone.
The volume of corn it takes to meet the ethanol demands of this country
is so small compared to over-all production volume it's almost funny.
You're NOT subsidizing American farms by purchasing a 5-10% blend of
ethanol.  Besides, the alternative is to subsidize some other country's
bread and butter income.

An engine dedicated (not a gas designed engine burning ethanol!) to
burning ethanol can make as much power, and the same fuel economy as a
similar gasoline engine.

"Not to mention the fuel, fertilizer, pesticide and energy to grow,
harvest
and process the corn into alcohol.....
Steve Stoner"

As opposed to what, the cost and pollution of importing and refining
crude oil?  Refineries are not cleaner than ethanol production
facilities.

Other countries around the world have been burning ethanol (at MUCH
higher percentages) for years, even in BMW's (there is my shameless
attempt at BMW content).

I'll get off my soap-box for now.....sorry folks.
Chet Dawes

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