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  Re: intermittent shimmy (even) with new tires?
  Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol? (OT)
  Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol? (OT)
  E34 Bilstein Life Expectancy
  E36 Engine in E30.
  Re: E36 Engine in E30
  Fw: E34 Bilstein Life Expectancy
  Fw: E34 Bilstein Life Expectancy
  Re: Reference Only E36 95' Avus Blue M3 w/66K for
  FREE 225/45-17 tires
  Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol?  (OT)
  E36 Stuff For Sale
  Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol? (OT)
  Re: M3 bashing and apology/explanation
  Re: M3 bashing and apology/explanation

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:35:00 -0500
From: "Robert Jackowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: intermittent shimmy (even) with new tires?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I've run into this problem before also.
In these situations, I pursue the simplest and cheapest 
remedy first. In this case, I would have all 4 tires re-balanced 
at a different shop that has better equipment.
Sometimes tires are defective; sometimes wheels are out-of-round but 
can be in balance.
Find a shop with a road-force analyzer.
At least this way you will no for certain whether it is wheel/tire
related or some other suspension/steering issue.


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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:44:26 -0800
From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol? (OT)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I think you miss the point Chet. Ethanol is not necessary for cars in CA
to meet our own emissions requirements, neither was MTBE. They are being
forced onto us by the federal government.

Also, if you get less miles per gallon, you would burn more gallons for 
the
same distance which means you burn more fuel and generate more 
emissions.
When we switched to oxygenated gas, the gas mileage in our cars dropped 
anywhere from
3% to 10%.

It may be not  the small time corn farmers, but large conglomerates 
like ADM
have lobbied both houses of congress for years and with a lot of dollars
to push the ethanol mandate even though both CARB and the governor of CA
have appealed to the EPA to forego this frivolous requirement of having
oxygenates in our gas.

Since this conversation is non-BMW related, I don't want to pursue this
any longer on this list. But you may want to get your facts straight 
next time.

Bora


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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:31:05 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol? (OT)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Chet,

Alright.... now we're off to a good discussion.. it's been a while on the
digest.

1. Yes just about any cellulose product can be used to produce ethanol, but
the truth is ADM had made sure corn is the primary source. OK, more power
to 'em. But the fact is the tax payer heavily subsidizes the result. ADM
then turns around and let's say subsidizes the campaigns of the
legislators. But what the hey it's SOP. Now if we could only burn corn
syrup.

2. The energy content of ethanol is not as good as gasoline. Therefore
looking at emissions in grams/mile doesn't tell the whole story if not
normalized to include the extra consumption over that distance.

3. An engine dedicated to straight ethanol can make as much power and the
same MPG as a gas motor. Wow, you gotta show me that one... it just isn't
true. See #2.

4. Certain ecologists would have you believe that production of ethanol is
clean. Well it ain't. In the production by fermentation CO2 is released.
Then if the remaining waste is also burned in the production of electricity
more CO2 results.
Remember too, that denaturing of the ethanol requires production, storage,
and distribution of other chemicals some of which are by products of oil
production.

So about the best that can be said about C2H5OH is that it reduces NOx.


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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:27:18 -0600
From: "Robert Blakeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E34 Bilstein Life Expectancy
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Digestors:

Given the "road conditions, driving style, moon phases", etc. what can I 
reasonably expect to be the life of a front set of Bilstein HD dampers on a 
'90 535i? I currently have aproximately 70k on them with the driver's side 
occasionally hitting the bump stop. No apparant oil leaks. Springs are not 
sagging. Slight "55 MPH wobble" with all new control arms, upper and lower. 
It sure feels like I'm losing at least the driver's side.

Cheers,
Robert
Houston

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:45:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E36 Engine in E30.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Robert:

Check <http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com> for the
Project Orca CD.  Explains the process in detail.

Neil Deshpande

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"Kelly and Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newbee here. Has anyone done an e36 engine swap into
an e30 that would be willing to talk with me? I am
considering the conversion and would really appreciate
any advise.  Thanks

Robert
88 325ic

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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:58:23 -0500
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E36 Engine in E30
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Neil Deshpande wrote:

> Check <http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com> for the
> Project Orca CD.  Explains the process in detail.

or join up to our Yahoo group on the subject :

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/E30twincam/



Ben


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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:54:09 -0600
From: "BHipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fw: E34 Bilstein Life Expectancy
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Don't Bilstiens have a lifetime warranty?

Not that they last forever, but at least you won't have to buy another one.

Kevin B. Hipp
'92 525i
'95 525iT

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Blakeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:27 AM
Subject: E34 Bilstein Life Expectancy


> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Digestors:
>
> Given the "road conditions, driving style, moon phases", etc. what can I
> reasonably expect to be the life of a front set of Bilstein HD dampers on
a
> '90 535i? I currently have aproximately 70k on them with the driver's side
> occasionally hitting the bump stop. No apparant oil leaks. Springs are not
> sagging. Slight "55 MPH wobble" with all new control arms, upper and
lower.
> It sure feels like I'm losing at least the driver's side.
>
> Cheers,
> Robert
> Houston
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:53:59 -0500
From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fw: E34 Bilstein Life Expectancy
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BHipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> Don't Bilstiens have a lifetime warranty?
>
> Not that they last forever, but at least you won't have to buy another
one.
>
Yes they do. But when I replaced a bad one that was 6-7 years old on one of
my cars, I had to buy the replacement and send the old one to them to get
reimbursement. They wanted to make sure it was not damaged from abuse.

Bill Matthews
Hockessin DE
00 M Geeze
some Volvos
other cars


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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:24:57 -0500 
From: Steve Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reference Only E36 95' Avus Blue M3 w/66K for
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



 Jim Bassett wrote:  Power steering hoses are also a weak 
point. 
I'll second that.  Ruined my last track weekend in early November when the
hose blew on the second session on Saturday.....easy fix though...
I too looked at the e46 330 vrs an e36M3 a few years ago, when the price
difference wasn't as big as it is today (in the e36M3 favor).  Because I
wanted to do Driver events, the M3 was an easy choice, and though I've
modified it (that's what we're all about here, right?) the M3 stock is way
more ready for the track than the 330 is.

Steve Stoner

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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:34:17 -0500
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FREE 225/45-17 tires
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


FREE (you pay shipping or come get 'em)
four (4) 225/45-17 Dunlop 8080E's.

I'm in the 48220 zip code, figure ~$15/tire
max for shipping.

these are old front tires from my M coupe which I have
no use for & which are taking up space in my garage.

plenty of tread, not tons of stick.  they're useful for
learning on the track since they squeal a lot & aren't
too sticky, plus they don't seem to chunk too much
when at the depth they're at now, so they'll last lots
longer than a $600 set of S-03's or Pilot Sports and
cost you almost nothing. burn these up learning to
drive your car on track, then step up to RA-1's after
you've got the hang of these. or use them to practice
your drifting technique :-)

they're going to the dumpster if no on wants 'em.



Ben


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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:53:19 -0800
From: Knute Ream <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol?  (OT)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 10:01 AM 12/5/2003 -0800, Chet Dawes wrote:
>[...]You're NOT subsidizing American farms by purchasing a 5-10% blend of
>ethanol.  [...]


>"Not to mention the fuel, fertilizer, pesticide and energy to grow,
>harvest
>and process the corn into alcohol.....
>Steve Stoner"
>
>As opposed to what, the cost and pollution of importing and refining
>crude oil?  Refineries are not cleaner than ethanol production
>facilities.

I'll be very brief, since this is very off topic, but a couple of things 
stand out.  First, there are enormous federal subsidies for the production 
of ethanol, without which it would not be CLOSE to economically viable for 
the producers.  Second, there is considerable direct evidence that supports 
the contention that it takes between 30 - 70%  _MORE_ energy to produce 
ethanol beyond the energy eventually released by burning the ethanol as fuel.

If it actually worked as advertised, I'd be a supporter, but the reality of 
the situation is far, far different than what the ethanol lobbyists would 
like you to believe.  At the moment, it appears to mostly serve as a 
convenient (but very expensive) use for surplus corn.  If the corn used to 
produce ethanol was purchased at realistic (i.e. unsubsidized) market 
rates, I find it hard to believe that anyone would be able to sell ethanol 
at prices that would cover actual costs.

A good, succinct writeup (including references) can be found at:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/031128.html

And now, back to BMWs!  ;-)

-Knute 


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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:56:55 -0800
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E36 Stuff For Sale
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I've got a bunch of stuff left over from my race car build.  All of it 
is Make Me An Offer and Buyer Pays Shipping.  Located in the SF Bay 
Area in 95030.

E36 coupe door window glass (both sides)
E36 coupe window regulators (both sides)
E36 coupe sunroof motor
E36 airbags
E36 rear leather seats (fold down) in tan - great shape
E36 tan rear interior side panels (NO door panels left!)
E36 OBC
E36 HVAC controls

Other stuff:
http://www.pdc-racing.net/forsale.html

Ignore the listed prices and just make me an offer.  Everything must go!

Various and sundry other bits - just ask!

Everything worked when it came out of the car.  It's all been sitting 
in my garage since Spring.

- Mark
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:38:05 -0800 (PST)
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Shell Gas contain ethanol? (OT)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, chet.dawes wrote:
..

 I prefer to get my info from Uncle Cecil:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/031128.html

(just fanning the light blue clean burning flames)

--
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro


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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:07:53 -0500
From: "Eurowerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: M3 bashing and apology/explanation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I just re-read my posts and realized that I could easily have been
mis-understood.  The BMW M3 is better than 95% of the cars on the road
today.  That is actually a problem.  The car has moderate power, exceptional
brakes and suspension, and an overall good look.  That puts it in the same
league as Ferrari, Porsche, AMG, Lamborghini, Bentley, etc...  Compared to
these cars, it is not so great.  It is not that the M3 is a bad car, it is
just that because it is such a good car, on the street it has to compete
with a class of cars that it really cannot compete with.  For the money, the
car is nearly untouchable in its performance and styling.  Really, if we
were all able, wouldn't we rather have the more refined later year models of
the car instead of the first year model?  I think that we would all opt for
a 98' or 99' model over a 95' anytime.  Wouldn't we?

The real problem lies in that in the last year I have had the unique
opportunity to spend alot of time with the Italian exotics and a few Rolls
Royce and Bentley's.  Put the M3 up against one of these cars just about
anywhere and you are in BIG trouble.  I had the Bentley Turbo R up to 170mph
on the interstate with five people in the car and it's 440 turbocharged
horsepower were still pulling strong.  Granted, the car cost $170K new and
was still worth about 3 or 4 good M3's used!, but man it was torquey and
FAST!
So, if I offended anyone, please don't take offense, it is just that I have
been very fortunate this year to spend thousands of miles with some of the
best cars on the planet!

As to my 69' BMW 1602, it has been modified beyond reason to get to the
level that it is at, so it is not fair to compare it to a stock car of any
kind.  I would have to run against cars that would kill me at a club race or
sanctioned event.  The top speed is only about 124 or 125 mph at almost 8000
rpms!  I would get left in the dust by most newer cars on the longer tracks,
but at an autocross, look out.  On the street, FORGET it!  It is VERY quick.

Kirk A. Gilchrist
EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair
8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free



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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:28:41 -0800
From: donna seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: M3 bashing and apology/explanation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On 12/5/03 12:07 PM, "Eurowerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I just re-read my posts and realized that I could easily have been
> mis-understood.  
<snip>
> Really, if we were all able, wouldn't we rather have the more refined later
> year models of the car instead of the first year model?  I think that we would
> all opt for a 98' or 99' model over a 95' anytime.  Wouldn't we?

Ummm....no....
Some of us equate "refined" with "laden with heavy unnecessary gadgets."
The '95 M3 is as refined a car as I would want - no traction control, no
OBD-II, etc.

Donna
88 M3
89 325i
ex-95 330is


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