The BMW UUC Digest Volume 1 : Issue 62 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Found a 96 M3 Re: Found a 96 M3 Re: Found a 96 M3 Re: [uuc] Glasshouses Re: [uuc] Glasshouses Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Pilot Alpine speaking of M3's... Re: speaking of M3's...
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 07:26:41 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sorry "militarese" for "Tits Up" as in when something dies it's "tits up" lying on its back. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Daley Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] E36 M3 Battery Q Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] tango uniform? -----Original Message----- From: Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Every die hard I've used in any vehicle I've had (3) goes tango uniform __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:35:25 -0500 From: Steve Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm still running the factory original battery in my 97M3 with ~70K miles. It gets an infusion of distilled water once in a while. I'm expecting a Tango Uniform condition any day. What is/was the collective wisdom on the Optima battery? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:01:24 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Got it. I understood that you meant "dead" just couldn't figure out what TU stood for. -----Original Message----- From: Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "militarese" for "Tits Up" as in when something dies it's "tits up" lying on its back. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:45:34 -0800 From: Greg Cagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Stoner wrote: > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > I'm still running the factory original battery in my 97M3 with ~70K miles. > It gets an infusion of distilled water once in a while. I'm expecting a > Tango Uniform condition any day. What is/was the collective wisdom on the > Optima battery? I've had one in my last two E36s with no problems. You need to rig a way to secure the thing as it's a few inches shorter than the stock battery. -- Greg Cagle gregc at gregcagle dot com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:31:59 -0600 From: "Timothy J Toohey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Think military alphabet...or Pamela Anderson Tim Toohey '89 325is -nothing's gone tango uniform yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Daley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [UUC] E36 M3 Battery Q > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > tango uniform? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Every die hard I've used in any vehicle I've had (3) goes tango uniform > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:38:35 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Military slang for "tits up", which is slang for "belly up on the surface of the lake" which means dead, but much more graphically. Ed Brian Daley wrote: >tango uniform? > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:41:50 -0500 From: "Harold Spingarn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Found a 96 M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Without getting into a major debate, I ask the following: A guy I know is selling his 96 M3. Particulars (basically) are around 94k on speedo, Vanos and water pump done, needs front shocks probably, exterior and interior are pretty much perfect, accounting for age. He wants 13k for the car. I don't have a problem with that since I know he is the original owner and has well maintained the car and not overly thrashed it. What I need to know from you guys is: Assuming that nothing major or unprecedented will be needed, am I looking at a car that will need lots of replacement parts in the next couple of years? Other than the obvious like brakes and tires, should I expect the coils to go bad, bushings to start falling apart, etc. BTW, the car is located in New Jersey, and while its not garaged all winter, it is not driven in snow or really bad weather. I know that I haven't provided a lot of information, but any general guidelines will be helpful. I figure that for 13k, I'm getting this car for a song. I'm just not sure whether or not its a happy song! TIA, Harold 72Tii couple of 911's Tow vehicle 96 M3 (?)_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 07:58:36 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Found a 96 M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I literally beat the crap out of my 95 M3 racecar. Matter of fact we just finished a 25hour enduro in it. The S50/S52 motor is very reliable and I've just gotten around to replacing the original clutch, and only because I wanted to save a some weight. I've been racing on the stock clutch for 3 years. If I were you the only thing I would worry about that would leave you stranded on the side of the road is 1) radiator - if it hasn't been replaced yet, do it 2) fuel pump - I've got two ;-) they are actually pretty reliable, but I've seen a few fail 3) check the power steering hoses for integrity There are a ton of little things that if you want a PERFECT car you should change, but if his car hasn't seen the track, I wouldn't worry about it. Other gotchas 1) Thermostats have a habit of sticking open 2) Rear trailing arm bushings and rear shock mounts need to be replaced on a 2-3 year cycle if driven hard. 3) the battery if original is probably about ready to give up the ghost. I've seen a pristine 95 go for 11K. 13 sounds about right for a 96 in very good condition. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harold Spingarn Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UUC] Found a 96 M3 Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Without getting into a major debate, I ask the following: A guy I know is selling his 96 M3. Particulars (basically) are around 94k on speedo, Vanos and water pump done, needs front shocks probably, exterior and interior are pretty much perfect, accounting for age. He wants 13k for the car. I don't have a problem with that since I know he is the original owner and has well maintained the car and not overly thrashed it. What I need to know from you guys is: Assuming that nothing major or unprecedented will be needed, am I looking at a car that will need lots of replacement parts in the next couple of years? Other than the obvious like brakes and tires, should I expect the coils to go bad, bushings to start falling apart, etc. BTW, the car is located in New Jersey, and while its not garaged all winter, it is not driven in snow or really bad weather. I know that I haven't provided a lot of information, but any general guidelines will be helpful. I figure that for 13k, I'm getting this car for a song. I'm just not sure whether or not its a happy song! TIA, Harold 72Tii couple of 911's Tow vehicle 96 M3 (?)_ __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:04:17 -0500 From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Found a 96 M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I like the price, not bad at all. You can barely buy a 2001 Jetta for that :-). It is an M3 though, so save some money to do repairs from time to time (you are used to it, hell, you've got two 911's :-). If he didn't do the 90k service, plan on having that done just for good measure (depending on where you take it I'm guessing it will crack the 1k mark if it needs a full jobby (general tune up, plugs, wires, all fuids changed, yada yada, if it needs brakes and rotors and all that stuff, it will be more of course). If you take care of it with preventative maintenance, you will save yourself down the road. I'm not real keen on mechanicals of the 96 M3, but they seem to be very reliable. Oh, and check the tire tread...good tires for that car are not horribly expensive, but they aren't cheap either. By the way...nice fleet of cars you got there! Two 911's, a tii, and an M3 soon! Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com > Without getting into a major debate, I ask the following: > A guy I know is selling his 96 M3. Particulars (basically) are > around 94k on > speedo, Vanos and water pump done, > needs front shocks probably, exterior and interior are pretty > much perfect, > accounting for age. > He wants 13k for the car. I don't have a problem with that since I know he > is the original owner and has well maintained the car and not overly > thrashed it. What I need to know from you guys is: Assuming that nothing > major or unprecedented will be needed, am I looking at a car that > will need > lots of replacement parts in the next couple of years? Other than the > obvious like brakes and tires, should I expect the coils to go > bad, bushings > to start falling apart, etc. BTW, the car is located in New Jersey, and > while its not garaged all winter, it is not driven in snow or really bad > weather. I know that I haven't provided a lot of information, but any > general guidelines will be helpful. I figure that for 13k, I'm > getting this > car for a song. I'm just not sure whether or not its a happy song! > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:11:56 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Glasshouses Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -----Original Message----- > BMW glasshouses seem to be getting smaller these days. Along with kidneys > and the Hofmeister kick, a large glasshouse with plenty of visibility has > been a BMW design feature since the '60s. It seems to be getting smaller. > Andy T I think the primary reason for the glass house shrinking is side impact protection. In addition to the doors getting higher, they're getting thicker. As BMW has pretty much perfected their frontal impact safety, they're moving on to bigger and better safety awards..... ;-) Brett Anderson KMS www.bmwdiffs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:20:00 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Glasshouses Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Could be the roofs getting lower for styling & aero points, too. I like the visibility out of most euro sedans, BMW, MB, Saab, etc. It's really nice the view they afford of their surroundings. Plus, there's an additional bonus, people around you can also see through your car better, making it easier for them to see things coming up ahead......assuming they're looking. Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of KMS - Brett > Anderson > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:12 > To: UUC Digest > Subject: Re: [UUC] [uuc] Glasshouses > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > BMW glasshouses seem to be getting smaller these days. > Along with kidneys > > and the Hofmeister kick, a large glasshouse with plenty of > visibility has > > been a BMW design feature since the '60s. It seems to be > getting smaller. > > Andy T > > I think the primary reason for the glass house shrinking is > side impact > protection. In addition to the doors getting higher, they're getting > thicker. As BMW has pretty much perfected their frontal > impact safety, > they're moving on to bigger and better safety awards..... ;-) > > Brett Anderson > KMS > www.bmwdiffs.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:19:24 -0800 (PST) From: david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whatever battery you choose, clean it before you install it. Set it on your driveway and give it a good rinse with the garden hose. Put a small piece of duct tape over the vent holes to prevent ingest of water. After manufacturing the battery will have an acidic residue. A quick cleaning now may save you some corrosion down the road. If your're real paranoid, you could mix up a baking soda solution and rinse with that in order to neutralize the acid. ===== David Kroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:31:19 +0000 From: "Greg Pollock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pilot Alpine Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone have experience with the Michelon Pilot Alpines for their winter tires and what their experience was? Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy the holiday season with great tips from MSN. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:09:18 -0500 From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: speaking of M3's... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was at the BMW financial sale on thursday and saw a very strange 97 M3 sedan auto. It was a sort of hunter green outside. I open the door and about fell over in shock. It was puke yellow leather with black accents and the same color carpet. It was very bright...probably best described as a mustard yellow. Was this color normally put inside some E36 M3's or was this a special order for a customer? It ran through the auction, had about 101k miles...it didn't crack $9k on the block. Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:25:41 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: speaking of M3's... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Modena" leather IIRC. not really a bad color combination if you're into that sort of thing (I'm not). it wouldn't go well with anything other than green exterior tho I think. I'm surprised that it didn't get more of a bid, as I perceive that color to be valued by some people. I bet that it would be a quick sale with that low a mileage to someone who wanted that color. Ben Alex Cagann wrote: > I was at the BMW financial sale on thursday and saw a very strange 97 M3 > sedan auto. It was a sort of hunter green outside. I open the door and about > fell over in shock. It was puke yellow leather with black accents and the > same color carpet. It was very bright...probably best described as a mustard > yellow. Was this color normally put inside some E36 M3's or was this a > special order for a customer? It ran through the auction, had about 101k > miles...it didn't crack $9k on the block. ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
