The BMW UUC Digest Volume 1 : Issue 64 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: speaking of M3's... Re: speaking of M3's... Re: speaking of M3's... Re: speaking of M3's... Optima Batteries Re: Optima Batteries Re: Optima Batteries Re: Saw the new 5 in person Re: Saw the new 5 in person Re: [uuc] Glasshouses To lube brake carrier pins or not to lube? Re: Pilot Alpins Re: Pilot Alpins Re: E36 M3 Battery Q FS: 3 sets of brake pads for E36/E46, $75 for all
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:46:48 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: speaking of M3's... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Dadgar wrote: > That Burnt Orangey color *is* Modena Natur. no, not interior the _exterior_. it's an orangey-red color which I've seen on only one car myself & which a certain Mr. Els from MO covets greatly. > I think it's supposed to be the same color that Ferrari > uses. But IMHO it's way butt ugly. I've only seen one car with it, also a green sedan, but it was a manual. I guess it might look good in a Ferrari red car as well, but it's not my style at all. Ben waiting patiently for the ride in the 360CS which a track buddy is getting... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:18:27 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: speaking of M3's... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Dec 19, 2003, at 10:46 AM, ben keyes wrote: >> That Burnt Orangey color *is* Modena Natur. > > no, not interior the _exterior_. it's an orangey-red > color which I've seen on only one car myself & which > a certain Mr. Els from MO covets greatly. Oh, that's Byzanz. Yechhh (IMHO, of course). - Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:52:44 -0600 From: "Christian Els" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: speaking of M3's... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- Original Message ----- > Oh, that's Byzanz. Yechhh (IMHO, of course). Actually it's CupperMetalik and it is quite lovely in bright sunlight, if a bit garish. Cheers, Mr. Els MO ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:05:40 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: speaking of M3's... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think I saw CupperMetalik play when I was in college. Sort of an Ozzy Osbourne/Huey Lewis/UB40 fusion thing. Very confusing. - Rob ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Actually it's CupperMetalik and it is quite lovely in bright >sunlight, if a >bit garish. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:39:10 -0800 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Optima Batteries Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Someone wrote: > What is/was the collective wisdom > on the Optima battery? I have had good luck with Optima Batteries but they don't seem to fit in to most BMWs. I tried to get one to fit in the M5 a few years back but ended up with an Interstate battery. The Optima I put in my Range Rover Classic in 1997 was going strong when I sold the truck earlier this year and the Optima I have in my Range Rover HSE has been working just as well. Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:43:00 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Optima Batteries Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have Exide Orbital batteries in both my E34s. They are a bit tall, and the battery cables need slight modification, by moving the second red wire underneath the main clamp, otherwise they fit fine The Exide has centered posts which fit better than the offset (to the wrong side) posts of the Optima. Gary Derian > Someone wrote: > > > What is/was the collective wisdom > > on the Optima battery? > > I have had good luck with Optima Batteries but they don't seem to fit in to > most BMWs. > > I tried to get one to fit in the M5 a few years back but ended up with an > Interstate battery. > > The Optima I put in my Range Rover Classic in 1997 was going strong when I > sold the truck earlier this year and the Optima I have in my Range Rover HSE > has been working just as well. > > Kevin Kelly > BMW CCA 50039 > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:12:01 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Optima Batteries Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone wrote: > > > What is/was the collective wisdom > > on the Optima battery? > > I have had good luck with Optima Batteries Same here. I've had orange Optima in two bimmers from '98, the other from '00 through now. Both are going strong after numerous autocross/DE seasons in hot TX that had killed OE Douglas battery in 26 months. > but they don't seem to fit in to most BMWs. In the sense that they are too small? Two solutions: move the battery hold-down clamp further in. If that is not enough, mabricate an extension lever (4x1" piece of metal in my case) to extend the reach of the clamp from it's smallest-battery size position. > I tried to get one to fit in the M5 a few years back but ended > up with an Interstate battery. It must have fit, but you might have had to get creative bolting it down. alex f ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:36:47 +0200 From: "Pavel Tcholakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Saw the new 5 in person Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I see your point... But I still like the new Beemers more than equivalent Audis or Mercs *shrug* Pavel -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Cagle Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] Saw the new 5 in person You're making a pretty big generalization about us all being "conservative." Maybe most of the comments lean in that direction, but I'm not against new things or new styles per se. I just don't happen to like this *particular* direction. You can be *new* and *inventive* and not be UGLY. It's a sad day when both Mercedes-Benz *and* Audi make better looking cars than BMW. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:42:37 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Saw the new 5 in person Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Audi and Mercedes make motorcycles? I'd love to see the pics! (Bimmers on four, Beemers on two. Wheels, that is.) http://www.robertlevinson.com/lol/moto1.jpg http://www.robertlevinson.com/lol/moto2.jpg - Rob ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I see your point... But I still like the new Beemers more than >equivalent Audis or Mercs *shrug* > >Pavel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:43:56 +0200 From: "Pavel Tcholakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Glasshouses Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Actually, it's quite striking to look through the kidney grills on any new BMW and see how much empty space there is in front of the radiator. Crumple zones and impact protection are driving a lot of the styling these days... Pavel -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Dadgar Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 12:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] [uuc] Glasshouses Get used to it. It's largely the result of pedestrian-protection regulations being phased in around the world. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:41:41 -0500 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: To lube brake carrier pins or not to lube? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not sure if that is what you call them. You know, the pins that hold the caliper to the brake carrier. Bentley says not to lube them. Other's to say to lube them. Since I swap my brakes a couple dozen times a year maybe Bentley is wrong. What kind of lube do I use? Something that I can pick up at Napa? -- ...steven 2003 MCS EB/W 1996 328ti ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:09:24 -0500 From: Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pilot Alpins Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Does anyone have experience with the Michelin Pilot Alpins >for their winter tires and what their experience was? Thanks. Going into my fifth winter season on these. I like them. They work well in the relatively mild winters around DC. Handle quite well on dry roads, as well as in the snow. Dave Meyer 99 328is 03 FLHRI Stafford VA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:09:46 -0500 From: "Doug Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Pilot Alpins Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Does anyone have experience with the Michelin Pilot Alpins >for their winter tires and what their experience was? Thanks. I will agree with the last two. This is my second nasty Boston winter on them, and I love them. I had Blizaks on my Miata, and while they were amazing in deep snow and ice, they were scary if you forgot you had snow tires on when hitting a twisty road. Very twitchy and soft. I drive a lot of fast highway miles, nice offramps, and a couple of fun twisty roads on my regular commute, and the Pilots provide everything I need. I was out in both of the nasty storms that we had so far this year, and they behaved very well. In a couple places around my office, I was driving in snow that was scraping the bottom of the car, and the tires never gave up. Doug Foster 94 540i <- wearing snowshoes for the winter ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:29:07 -0500 From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E36 M3 Battery Q Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a Delco battery in my 96ti. Bought it from my GMC dealer and the fit and price were right...about $85 installed if I remember right. Have not had it very long. it replaced a BMW Douglas that lasted all of 2 years (at $105), the original lasted almost 5. I have liked Delco's, usually hold up well and usually don't leak. David -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Herman Chan Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] E36 M3 Battery Q Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Time has come to replace my '98 M3 original battery (original? I don't see >any dates just serial numbers). The OE battery is a Group 92 battery, which is an odd size that is hard to find in the aftermarket. Your easiest option, if you wish to retain the original size, is likely to be the Douglas-manufactured replacement battery sold by the dealer. You could also try to obtain one from a Douglas distributor or a chain that stocks Douglas batteries. However, a Group 48/91 battery (as used in four-cyl E36's and Z's) will also fit with no problem, just use the alternative screw hole for the securing screw in the battery compartment. Application guides will not list this option for six-cyl E36s, but most people choose this route after having difficulty attempting to finding a cheaper aftermarket alternative to the dealer battery. Some 49/93 batteries may also fit, but that would require an exercise in trial-and-error. (E36 convertibles require a vibration-resistant battery, so they have their own set of challenges.) Note that a 48/91 battery is smaller in size, so you will give up some Reserve Capacity, but a powerful 48/91 can be commensurate with a larger 92 battery in terms of Cranking Amperage. Others may have their opinions, but I wouldn't consider the BMW Douglas battery; for MY taste, I've heard too many stories of premature failure and a substandard 2 year warranty, not to mention the higher price. Many people opt for a 48/91 battery, in the guise of the Interstate MTP-91, or the Diehard International 31248, made by Johnson Controls. It can also be found as the Energizer at Pep Boys. All three are made by JCI, in the ~$80-100 range, have good CA, and are widely available, with differing warranties depending on the brand label. Choose accordingly. The only caveat regarding this battery is to make sure you receive the accompanying vent hose adaptor kit, which is an extension that connects to the original BMW vent hose. In some cases, the total length may still be insufficient to reach the trunk floor grommet; if so, just replace the original hose with a longer section of tubing. Optima/AGM batteries are an interesting alternative, but would require a bit of adaptation to mount in the E36 battery compartment. JCI also supposedly makes an AGM-type battery for Mercedes, but in what I assume are more traditionally-shaped cases that would be an easier fit, but I have yet to explore that option. Whichever battery you choose, it is likely to come from the handful of battery makers in the industry (Exide, Douglas, JCI, Delco, etc.). The larger players are sold under many brand names (JCI=Optima/Interstate/Varta/etc.), and different lines of a particular brand (such as Diehard) may come from different suppliers. It's convoluted just like cars and nameplates. Herman PS- don't forget to look up your radio code if you still have the stock radio. __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:51:17 -0500 From: Steve Lilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: BMW UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, BMW AutoX List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, BMW E46 Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FS: 3 sets of brake pads for E36/E46, $75 for all Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For sale: 3 complete sets of brake pads (front and rear) for E46 323/328 and E36 non-M 6-cylinder cars. Help me clean out my garage now that I've sold my Y2K 323i! First $75 takes all three sets, including shipping within the contiguous US. Yes, the pads have all been used (full details below), but when new these three sets cost over $600 total. (The R-4S pads alone cost over $160, and they are barely used.) Here are the details on the set; the track pads were only used at BMWCCA Driver's Ed events: Track Pads ---------- Performance Friction PF-97: used 2 days at Summit Point. 10mm remaining on both front and rear pads. Porterfield R-4: used 2 days at Watkins Glen and 1 day at Summit Point. 6.5mm remaining on front, 11mm remaining on rear (the rear R4 pads weren't used at SP) Street Pads ----------- Porterfield R-4S: used less than 1,000 miles on street. (Replaced with stock pads when I sold the 323i, because the new owner didn't like the fact that they sometimes squeaked when slowing down.) 11mm remaining on both front and rear pads; on both rear-inside pads, one of the three prongs is missing on the anti-rattle clip. As a reference, here's my eBay feedback page: <http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=slilley> Payment by PayPal or personal check is fine. E-mail if you are interested or you want more info. Regards, Steve Lilley was 2000 323i now 2004 330i ZHP ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
