The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 533 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Hartge Re: Hartge Wher to stay in S.F. <E30> Dash removal Re: <E30> Dash removal Re: <E30> Dash removal Re: <E30> Dash removal Re: <E30> Dash removal Re: off season wheel storage FS: '97 M3 S52 Cylinder Head E36 <E36> RTAB removal w/ flange? Re: <E36> RTAB removal w/ flange? need help with "in-service" date Nitrogen-filled tires Re: Hartge
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:53:23 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hartge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian: For the work danke (thanks) I've heard both daan-kuh and daan-kay from the Germans at work. I suspect that Germany, like any other country, has more than one accent of German. I prefer the kuh pronunciation for danke and for Hartge myself. It seems to fit better with the way I like the rest of the language spoken. Something like having a preference for Midwestern English over Texan or Southern. I imagine none is more correct, it is just a preference. Neil Deshpande ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:57:17 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Hartge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And this is off-topic, why, exactly? It is about BMWs. Or were you concerned that you weren't contributing to the How Do I Store My Wheels in My Patio to Keep the Local Wandering Dogs From Peeing On Them? thread? Don't lose too much sleep over this, we've been way more off topic than this before, and we all survived. Well, most of us anyway. BTW, my vote is for the first pronounciation you listed, not that I know about these matters. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> >Subject: Hartge >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Somewhat off topic, in a way... > >Saw a Hartge tuned E39 540i on the freeway on the way >in to work this morning, which reminded me of >something I've been wondering.� I've heard various >people say this different ways, but I've never known >for sure how to pronounce Hartge correctly.� Some of >the variations I've heard: > >hart-guh >hart-gee >har-tsh > >Anyone know the correct pronunciation? > >Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:33:24 -0600 From: "r.mackrill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Wher to stay in S.F. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ist time trip to S.F. in the works for Easter weekend. Would appreciate any local digesters' recommendations on where to stay downtown, please contact me off list with your comments. Randy Mackrill BMWCCA 103315 Regina, SK. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:35:34 -0500 From: Matthew Twigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC <[email protected]> Subject: <E30> Dash removal Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Are there any good guides on the web for E30 dash removal? Hit the ol' Google but nothing came up... I have a nice replacement for my old cracked beastie... Also, any items I should address while the dash is off? Blower Motors? A/C thermostat control , etc...? Thanks! Matt 1991 325iX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:32:45 -0500 From: Matthew Twigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: UUC <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E30> Dash removal Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave, Do you think it is possible to remove the dash without pulling the wheel? Perhaps tilting it and pulling out the passenger's door? I ask as I have ABS and though I am sure I can deal with that I would rather not... Thanks again. -Matt On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:49:09 -0800, David Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 12:35 -0500, Matthew Twigg wrote: > > Are there any good guides on the web for E30 dash removal? > > Hit the ol' Google but nothing came up... > > > > I have a nice replacement for my old cracked beastie... > > > > Also, any items I should address while the dash is off? > > Blower Motors? > > A/C thermostat control , etc...? > > > > Hey Matt, > > I have done a E30 dash swap...its pretty easy...but I dont know of any > online guides. > > Basically, you need to follow the Bentley's directions on removing the > cluster, the radio and HVAC control panel, and the glovebox. Also remove > the steering wheel if you did not remove it to get the instrument > cluster out. At that point you pretty much just unbolt the bolts on the > side of the dash and pop it off the clips on the firewall. Thats about > it. I would figure on 4-5 hours to get it done. > > Other questions...just ask. > > Dave > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:45:39 -0500 From: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E30> Dash removal Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> no, AFAIK you have to pull the steering wheel. ABS has nothing to do with the steering wheel, are you thinking of the airbag ? it should come off the steering wheel with the correct torx or allen wrench from the back side, just be sure to have the battery disconnected. I think I've heard some people mention waiting for a while before taking it off to let capacitors bleed down or something, but I don't know if that's necessary. Ben dash held on by two large tie-wraps :-P Matthew wrote: > Dave, > Do you think it is possible to remove the dash without pulling the wheel? > Perhaps tilting it and pulling out the passenger's door? > I ask as I have ABS and though I am sure I can deal with that I would > rather not... > > Thanks again. > -Matt > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:49:09 -0800, David Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 12:35 -0500, Matthew Twigg wrote: > > > Are there any good guides on the web for E30 dash removal? > > > Hit the ol' Google but nothing came up... > > > > > > I have a nice replacement for my old cracked beastie... > > > > > > Also, any items I should address while the dash is off? > > > Blower Motors? > > > A/C thermostat control , etc...? > > > > > > > Hey Matt, > > > > I have done a E30 dash swap...its pretty easy...but I dont know of any > > online guides. > > > > Basically, you need to follow the Bentley's directions on removing the > > cluster, the radio and HVAC control panel, and the glovebox. Also remove > > the steering wheel if you did not remove it to get the instrument > > cluster out. At that point you pretty much just unbolt the bolts on the > > side of the dash and pop it off the clips on the firewall. Thats about > > it. I would figure on 4-5 hours to get it done. > > > > Other questions...just ask. > > > > Dave > > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:51:59 -0500 From: Matthew Twigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: UUC <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E30> Dash removal Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yeah, talking about the Airbag....sorry, that's what happens when I am trying to compose an Email at work...damn job always getting in the way... o_O If I have to, I will just pull the battery, let it sit for 24hrs, and then pull the wheel off. -Matt On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:45:39 -0500, Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > no, AFAIK you have to pull the steering wheel. > > ABS has nothing to do with the steering wheel, are > you thinking of the airbag ? it should come off the > steering wheel with the correct torx or allen wrench > from the back side, just be sure to have the battery > disconnected. I think I've heard some people mention > waiting for a while before taking it off to let capacitors > bleed down or something, but I don't know if that's > necessary. > > Ben > dash held on by two large tie-wraps :-P > > > Matthew wrote: > > Dave, > > Do you think it is possible to remove the dash without pulling the wheel? > > Perhaps tilting it and pulling out the passenger's door? > > I ask as I have ABS and though I am sure I can deal with that I would > > rather not... > > > > Thanks again. > > -Matt > > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:49:09 -0800, David Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 12:35 -0500, Matthew Twigg wrote: > > > > Are there any good guides on the web for E30 dash removal? > > > > Hit the ol' Google but nothing came up... > > > > > > > > I have a nice replacement for my old cracked beastie... > > > > > > > > Also, any items I should address while the dash is off? > > > > Blower Motors? > > > > A/C thermostat control , etc...? > > > > > > > > > > Hey Matt, > > > > > > I have done a E30 dash swap...its pretty easy...but I dont know of any > > > online guides. > > > > > > Basically, you need to follow the Bentley's directions on removing the > > > cluster, the radio and HVAC control panel, and the glovebox. Also remove > > > the steering wheel if you did not remove it to get the instrument > > > cluster out. At that point you pretty much just unbolt the bolts on the > > > side of the dash and pop it off the clips on the firewall. Thats about > > > it. I would figure on 4-5 hours to get it done. > > > > > > Other questions...just ask. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:37:56 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E30> Dash removal Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The capacitor drain time recommended is only about 10 or 20 minutes. Think the Bentley mentions this amount of time, at least for the E36. Brian --- Matthew Twigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, talking about the Airbag....sorry, that's what > happens when I am > trying to compose an Email at work...damn job > always getting in the > way... > o_O > > If I have to, I will just pull the battery, let it > sit for 24hrs, and > then pull the wheel off. > > > > -Matt > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:45:39 -0500, Ben Keyes > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > no, AFAIK you have to pull the steering wheel. > > > > ABS has nothing to do with the steering wheel, are > > you thinking of the airbag ? it should come off > the > > steering wheel with the correct torx or allen > wrench > > from the back side, just be sure to have the > battery > > disconnected. I think I've heard some people > mention > > waiting for a while before taking it off to let > capacitors > > bleed down or something, but I don't know if > that's > > necessary. > > > > Ben > > dash held on by two large tie-wraps :-P > > > > > > Matthew wrote: > > > Dave, > > > Do you think it is possible to remove the dash > without pulling the wheel? > > > Perhaps tilting it and pulling out the > passenger's door? > > > I ask as I have ABS and though I am sure I can > deal with that I would > > > rather not... > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > -Matt > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:49:09 -0800, David Thomas > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 12:35 -0500, Matthew > Twigg wrote: > > > > > Are there any good guides on the web for E30 > dash removal? > > > > > Hit the ol' Google but nothing came up... > > > > > > > > > > I have a nice replacement for my old cracked > beastie... > > > > > > > > > > Also, any items I should address while the > dash is off? > > > > > Blower Motors? > > > > > A/C thermostat control , etc...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Matt, > > > > > > > > I have done a E30 dash swap...its pretty > easy...but I dont know of any > > > > online guides. > > > > > > > > Basically, you need to follow the Bentley's > directions on removing the > > > > cluster, the radio and HVAC control panel, and > the glovebox. Also remove > > > > the steering wheel if you did not remove it to > get the instrument > > > > cluster out. At that point you pretty much > just unbolt the bolts on the > > > > side of the dash and pop it off the clips on > the firewall. Thats about > > > > it. I would figure on 4-5 hours to get it > done. > > > > > > > > Other questions...just ask. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, > enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:04:42 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: off season wheel storage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tire snot? What kind of tires are you using that result in this particular condition? Not sure I've seen it. Yet. Not that I'd know. Or would I? Should I? Can one buy some kind of tire decongestant to remedy the problem? Inquiring minds, and all that. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:21:45 -0500 >From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: off season wheel storage >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <snip> > The open well side is also useful for stuffing >tools etc. after I wipe off the bigger chunks of brake dust and tire snot >with some paper towel. <snip> - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:25:33 -0800 (PST) From: Eddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FS: '97 M3 S52 Cylinder Head E36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List, http://www.episodesalon.com/M3head.jpg I have a S52 cylinder head for sale. It came off a '97 M3 engine that had 70K miles. The '97 M3 was also an auto-tranny car (confirmed by VIN) so the engine was never over-revv'ed, money shifted, bent valves etc. The head does not come with cams, but the remaining valvetrain is still there. (valves, retainers, springs, etc). And since this is the S52 head, it comes up the "less-brittle" valve retainers unlike the S50 heads. The head is still fresh with assemblylube, the mating surface to the block has been machined flat/true, and free of any carbon buildup. It is ready to bolt onto any E36 3-series I6 engine block. Most of the other M3 heads that have been for sale, have been the 3.0L head w/ the brittle retainers, or they arent guaranteed to free of cracks or still needs to be decked for trueness and thats like $200-300 alone for the machine work. I believe this cylinder head will bolt onto any of the US E36 Inline-6 motors (M50/M52/S50/S52). Please confirm with your dealer or parts manual. I'm willing to ship, but this item is about ~50lbs. I'm in the Bay Area, CA. Asking for $750 before this head ends up on eBay. Please email if you are interested. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:38:44 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <E36> RTAB removal w/ flange? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a new set of Powerflex RTABs and a rented puller from Bimmerworld. Problem is my factory bushings have a flange on the outside that prevents me from setting the cap of the puller up against the surface of the arm (the bushing is pressed in one way and comes out the other, it can't be pulled straight through). I suppose I could cut the existing flange off with a dremmel, but that seems severe (or at least against the spirit of what Bimmerworld says is a puller I can easily use with the arm still on the car). Anybody got any experience with this? Dude at Bimmerworld was totally clueless... - Kevin Jay '96 328is ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:08:23 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> RTAB removal w/ flange? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Alex. Yes, I have a generic puller. And the car has factory "sport" suspension (this is about all that's left, I've changed out most everything else); that must be the source of the M3 bushings. Best I can tell from Brett's site, his puller for these bushings requires that I remove the arm (at least if you trust the picture he shows). So I have a choice of destroying my stock bushes, or dropping the whole arm. Both suck... but frankly, it'd probably be less trouble to dremel off this dumb flange and use the puller I have. Agh. Thanks for helping out, really do appreciate it. - k On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I have a new set of Powerflex RTABs and a rented puller from > Bimmerworld. > > Problem is my factory bushings have a flange on the outside that > prevents > > me from setting the cap of the puller up against the surface of the arm > > (the bushing is pressed in one way and comes out the other, it can't be > > pulled straight through). > > Kevin, > You have what people typically describe as '96+ M3 RTABs. Some non-M3s > have them, most don't. > > Long story short, your next course of action depends on the type of > removal tool you have available. If it's the proper BMW puller (like the > one you could rent from koalamotorsport.com), the two legs of the puller > will fit into the two cut-off slots on the RTAB. > However, if you have a generic 'cup' puller, you will need to remove the > RTAB flanges before you can proceed. Dremmel or SawzAll make that job much > easier. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:14:03 -0600 From: "Tarun Kundhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bmwuucdigest" <[email protected]> Subject: need help with "in-service" date Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm trying to determine the "in-service" date and BMW options list for the following car. WBAAR3347YJB35105 If anyone can help it would be appreciated. TIA, t. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:30:31 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest <[email protected]> Subject: Nitrogen-filled tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Los Angeles Times had an interesting article about the increasing use of nitrogen for filling up tires: http://www.latimes.com/classified/automotive/highway1/la-hy-wheels9feb09,0,5673272.story?coll=la-class-autos-highway1 Has anyone tried this out? I was completely unaware of this. Maybe we all need nitrogen-charged, dark trash bags to store our tires now. :-) --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:29:05 -0800 (PST) From: John K Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Hartge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian Ruiz wrote: >Somewhat off topic, in a way... > >Saw a Hartge tuned E39 540i on the freeway on the way >in to work this morning, which reminded me of >something I've been wondering. I've heard various >people say this different ways, but I've never known >for sure how to pronounce Hartge correctly. Some of >the variations I've heard: > >hart-guh >hart-gee >har-tsh > >Anyone know the correct pronunciation? > >Brian You could ask John Hartge, who is a Correspondent for CBS News/ Radio out of D.C., who, ironically enough happens to be the owner of a very nice E-28, Hartge tuned, of course. Though he claims no relation. John K Gallagher 1987 E-30 Cab euro __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
