The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 548 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: English Re: English Re: S50 valve cover Re: English Re: English Re: English Re: Need reputable tire installer in Akron, Ohio area Re: Identifying Source of Noise Re: English -- Coelacanth 'n' Chips! Porsche 911 (was English) Re: Porsche 911 (was English) Re: Porsche 911 (was English) Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages)
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:53:48 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > A "foreigner" that speaks English better than many Americans > gathers little > sympathy. ;-) Are we talking about English or limey English here? I'm apt to think Neil's vernacular leans more towards the latter, which is common among other nations which tend to teach Oxford English. > is a cross-cultural cousin to the Simpsons-inspired "Doh!" (which is > distinctly misused and abused when apostrophe-infatuated > Americans write it > as "D'oh!" for no logical reason). These bollocks-inspired Matt Groening is a satirist. It's possible that he used the apostrophe for a reason.......I'm inclined to think that "D'oh!" is a contraction, as "oh!" can be a standalone exclamation, albeit on of surprise not frustration. I would guess that the D part is probably maybe a shortening of a certain 4 or 6 letter word that starts with D typically used to express frustration. > > Explanation of euphemisms aside, the sloppy usage of "could > care less" is > not excused; it is not sufficiently euphemistic to excuse it > as a complete > opposite-meaning phrase deliberately used to amplify via > absurdity (e.g. > "Yeah, she's hot" when referring to a woman of hideous appearance). Not sloppy, intentional. The un-spendthrift part was sloppy. > > "Learnt" itself is a carryover from the somewhat > less-constructed English > prevalent 500 or more years ago. As past tense of "to > learn", it is rightly > "learned". The "learnt" or "learn'd" is a very > pre-Shakespearian construct > that has bottom-fed through the years in certain > English-speaking locales > like an etymological coelocanth. In German, "lernen" is conjugated with a "t" as in "gelernt," "to have learned." Since English & German share roots in Anglo-Saxon culture their current forms are quite similar in a lot of ways. It's possible that "to have learned" was represented with a "t" & not an "ed." Sorry, I wasn't there, so I can't say for sure. I'm sure if you ask a native German speaker, you'll get your answer. Finally, no language is set in stone. All are living, developing things which change to meet the needs of the speaker(s). In some areas of the US, I've heard people say "learnt." I've heard "learned" pronounced like "learn, Ed." After all, if it were to be spelled phonetically, it would look like: "lernd." It seems kind of like pissing in the wind & having it blow back in your face to make so much fuss considering you are referring to a language in which "their" & "there" are pronounced the same, "height" & "weight" don't rhyme, and well do I have to even go into Xylophone??????? Don't worry Rob, it's a slow day here at Siemens too. ;) > > - Rob Lee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:06:18 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Be a sport, Lee. We'd love to hear you go into xylophone. Play us a song! ;-) -Jay ...poor English is one thing, but how about these people who reply without deleting the unnecessary crap from the original message?! ***************** Lee wrote: It seems kind of like pissing in the wind & having it blow back in your face to make so much fuss considering you are referring to a language in which "their" & "there" are pronounced the same, "height" & "weight" don't rhyme, and well do I have to even go into Xylophone??????? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:55:07 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: S50 valve cover Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So far the leading bet is it is some sort of magnesium alloy. thanks, Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of chet.dawes Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] S50 valve cover Marco, I seem to remember reading in a number of places that the S50 valve/cam cover was magnesium. Most recently I think the latest project car in Grassroots had some blurb about that when speaking of the relatively common paint-peeling problem of the cam cover on those engines. That said; I have found errors in various magazine articles over the years. Indeed it is harder to get paint/coatings to stick to magnesium. I'm not sure other than visual inspection how to easily tell the difference between aluminum and magnesium. Fortunately for me, my S50 cam cover has not started peeling.....at least yet. Cheers, Chet Dawes -----Original Message----- Re: S50 valve cover From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: S50 valve cover I should have been clearer. I meant the S50 as in the 3.0L which does not have a plastic valve cover. My engine builder wants to put a heat dispersant coating on the cover and while stripping the stock coating off of it he said it sure didn't seem like Al. 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UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:59:01 -0800 (PST) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rob, you don't see anyone lining up to drive a coelacanth, do you? And that's how we measure success in UUC-land. ;-) -tammer --- Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Successfully? > > 400 million years for the fish versus around 50 years for > the pig*. Who is > it that has the more successful track record at this > point? By the > coelacanth's timetable, all of us monkeys fell out of the > trees very > recently. > > * You can't make a racehorse out of a pig, but you can > make an extremely > fast pig. > > - Rob __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:23:58 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't see electricity either, but I know lots of guys in Texas have ridden that. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammer Farid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] English > Rob, you don't see anyone lining up to drive a coelacanth, > do you? And that's how we measure success in UUC-land. ;-) > > -tammer > > --- Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Successfully? > > > > 400 million years for the fish versus around 50 years for > > the pig*. Who is > > it that has the more successful track record at this > > point? By the > > coelacanth's timetable, all of us monkeys fell out of the > > trees very > > recently. > > > > * You can't make a racehorse out of a pig, but you can > > make an extremely > > fast pig. > > > > - Rob > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:21:31 -0600 From: Scott Staewen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: English Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We don't ride coelacanths in Texas, either. And btw, I may have just fallen out of a tree (or off of a turnip truck), but I'm an *ape,* not a monkey. ; ^ ) Scott On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:23:58 -0500, Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see electricity either, but I know lots of guys in Texas have ridden > that. > > - Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tammer Farid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:59 PM > Subject: Re: [UUC] English > > > Rob, you don't see anyone lining up to drive a coelacanth, > > do you? And that's how we measure success in UUC-land. ;-) > > > > -tammer > > > > --- Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Successfully? > > > > > > 400 million years for the fish versus around 50 years for > > > the pig*. Who is > > > it that has the more successful track record at this > > > point? By the > > > coelacanth's timetable, all of us monkeys fell out of the > > > trees very > > > recently. > > > > > > * You can't make a racehorse out of a pig, but you can > > > make an extremely > > > fast pig. > > > > > > - Rob > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:29:52 -0500 From: Kathy Lyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: BMWUUCDigest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Need reputable tire installer in Akron, Ohio area Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My son lives in Akron, Ohio and to date he has been unable to find a good > tire installer that he can trust mounting high performance tires on his M3 > wheels (which are "perfect"). He wants to keep them that way. I recommend Defer Tire in Streetsboro. Mark is an SCCA racer and does a lot of work for the sports car crowd. Kathy -- Kathryn M. Lyle, CPA, CVA Lyle & Associates CPA www.lylecpa.com Creating Business Value ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:20:28 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Identifying Source of Noise Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Barry, Regardless of what you may have thought at the time, I believe the "word" you seek is one of my father's favorites: "disirregardless." :-) Jay ****************************** > Is that 'irregardless' of 'witch of it(apostrophe)s transmission gears > its in? > Barry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:42:22 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: English -- Coelacanth 'n' Chips! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now that you mention it though, those 9'1'1's''''' (oops, I knocked over the apostrophe shaker when I didn't need any -- well, just one for that contraction that's here within the parentheses -- oh -- and one more back there, still before the last parenthesis) look like bottom feeding fish if you discount the occasional mammalian tail. Well, perhaps amphibian if not exactly fish. -Jay ************* > But one that evolved more successfully than its aquatic > counterpart. > > -tammer > > --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ohh, etymological coelacanth, I like that. So that makes > > a Porsche 911 an > > automotive coelacanth. > > > > Gary Derian > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:53:45 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> Subject: Porsche 911 (was English) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, JKerouac wrote: > So you're calling a 911 a bottom feeder? rofl, A highly evolved one. A computer analogy: the 911 is the x86 of the car world: poor design with tons of money and engineering thrown at it to make it the fastest car in its class (as measured by SPEC numbers for Pentiums and Athlons, and GT class wins for the car). Since we're picking nits, is anyone else annoyed about people saying "Porsh" instead of "Por-shuh"? Especially people who own them? --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:11:28 -0800 From: "Damon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Porsche 911 (was English) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andre Yew wrote: > > A highly evolved one. A computer analogy: the 911 is the x86 of the car > world: poor design with tons of money and engineering thrown at it to > make it the fastest car in its class (as measured by SPEC numbers for > Pentiums and Athlons, and GT class wins for the car). > Hmmm, coming from the car industry perspective, I'd rather say the 911 is like the Mac, an inspired and great design coming from a tiny underresourced company, succeeding because of that despite a comparative lack of power, a product program in disarray, corporate management infighting, and an industry hell bent on platform sharing. Also like the Mac, it's not for everybody. :^) -Damon '94 325i '95 993 <<< I actually own one you guys! And 3 Wintel PC's and 2 Wintel laptops (and a couple old Macs in the closet) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:53:19 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Porsche 911 (was English) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not as annoyed as I am by other-market folks referring to our favorite marque as "BMs". And back to the language topic, I want to smack the people who mispronounce the word marque as "markee" (which is the display at a movie theater) rather than "mark". - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Yew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [UUC] Porsche 911 (was English) > Since we're picking nits, is anyone else annoyed about people saying > "Porsh" instead of "Por-shuh"? Especially people who own them? > > --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:17:27 -0500 From: "K.C. Boyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now we just have to work on formatting our paragraphs for readability! ;-) KC Boyce E30 Eta Page: http://www.e30eta.com '97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- WOOHOO! You guys are awesome! I would have spoken up about these errors before (maybe I have ?), as I've noticed them so many times in so many different places (not just here), but I've given up on correcting people. I recall noticing errors like these since I was in junior high school, or even earlier. Some take the correction pretty harshly, so I just wanted to avoid getting flamed. ;) The question that always enters _my_ mind is where the school systems went wrong in teaching our kids and others the use of apostrophes, pluralization, your/you're, loose/lose, and other such constructs. It is irritating to see even well educated people misuse these words. The lack of people speaking up about it though (myself included) just passively encourages the improper usage. It seems many people who ARE in the know about how to properly use grammar just put up with the errors and chock them up as characteristic of the current college generation. When I was in college, even there some professors didn't mark off points on essays or papers where students misused these words. It is actually kind of depressing....but I digress... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:55:00 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can we discuss the use of proper names instead of initials? ;-))) - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "K.C. Boyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> > Now we just have to work on formatting our paragraphs for readability! > > ;-) > > KC Boyce ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:44:51 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hrm, glad you received that message already K.C. That would have been my post from earlier this morning, I still haven't received it in my inbox as a post to the list. Either: the list has been modified not to send email to the person who sends it, or there's just some lag in it getting to my inbox. Here's to seeing if THIS message beats it. Brian --- "K.C. Boyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now we just have to work on formatting our > paragraphs for readability! > > ;-) > > KC Boyce > E30 Eta Page: http://www.e30eta.com > '97 M3/4 > > -----Original Message----- > > WOOHOO! You guys are awesome! I would have spoken > up > about these errors before (maybe I have ?), as I've > noticed them so many times in so many different > places > (not just here), but I've given up on correcting > people. I recall noticing errors like these since I > was in junior high school, or even earlier. Some > take > the correction pretty harshly, so I just wanted to > avoid getting flamed. ;) The question that always > enters _my_ mind is where the school systems went > wrong in teaching our kids and others the use of > apostrophes, pluralization, your/you're, loose/lose, > and other such constructs. It is irritating to see > even well educated people misuse these words. The > lack of people speaking up about it though (myself > included) just passively encourages the improper > usage. It seems many people who ARE in the know > about > how to properly use grammar just put up with the > errors and chock them up as characteristic of the > current college generation. When I was in college, > even there some professors didn't mark off points on > essays or papers where students misused these words. > > It is actually kind of depressing....but I > digress... > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
